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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:01:32 No.12225353 View View Reply Original Report

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What came before Arceus?

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:02:03 No.12225360 Report

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>>12225353
Mew

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:02:40 No.12225364 Report

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Magikarp.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:06:39 No.12225401 Report

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bidoof

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:06:42 No.12225402 Report

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Eevee

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:07:54 No.12225415 Report

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>implying there was a "before" before arceus

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:08:30 No.12225419 Report

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:09:23 No.12225429 Report

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A digimon.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:09:51 No.12225432 Report

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masuda

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:10:48 No.12225441 Report

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Did Arceus create itself? But...

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:11:19 No.12225444 Report

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>>12225353
When arceus, giratina, the lake trio, dialga and palkia were all one being, It's safe to assume that it had complete control over space and time, therefore allowing to exist outside of space and time, and exist before anything else.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:11:26 No.12225445 Report

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>implying Arceus is an actual god and not just some fabricated deity used to explain pokemon's version of creationism
>2004 + 9
ISHYGDDIGGY

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:11:52 No.12225448 Report

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Shaymin

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:12:41 No.12225454 Report

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>>12225441

Arceus was not "created." Arceus always was.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:13:02 No.12225457 Report

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Dinosaurs ruled the earth. A meteor wiped them all out, and the cosmic aura that resonated from the meteor melded with what life survived to create Arceus, who saw fit to reshape the world in his image.

That is to say, the space virus that would later mutate into Deoxys is also the origin of Arceus. "Pokemon," as a life form, is not native to this world, which is why they live alongside its native inhabitants, mankind.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:13:07 No.12225458 Report

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>>12225445
>implying arceus isn't a video game character

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:13:34 No.12225463 Report

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>>12225444
With this logic, Giratina came before Arceus. It only exists outside of space and time.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:14:43 No.12225468 Report

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>>12225463
Hence why it's trapped in another dimension

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:16:16 No.12225475 Report

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>>12225468
>implying it wasn't banished to the distortion world

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:17:31 No.12225483 Report

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>>12225475
>Implying that's not what I said

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:18:24 No.12225485 Report

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The mother egg.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:18:50 No.12225489 Report

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>>12225454
i named my Arceus Bad Wolf

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:19:24 No.12225493 Report

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Ash.
Ash is everything and nothing at the same time. Fear him, for he's coming back to us.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:19:25 No.12225494 Report

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>>12225468
>>12225475
Regardless of the order of events, IF (notice the "if") Giratina remains in the distortion world and Arceus on the Sky Pillar, then Giratina/Cyrus exist before time and space were created, thus coming before Arceus. If Arceus travels to the Distortion world, then it's different.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:20:17 No.12225507 Report

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>>12225353
"Arceus is an eon of The One it represent the Nous, the cosmic creative intellect. His counterpart is Giratina. Also Dialga and Palkia emanate from Arceus as secondary eons. The Aura is the Substance of the Anima Mundi allpervading the planet, directly emanated from The One through Arceus. Before Arceus there were The One" - Plotinus

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:23:04 No.12225524 Report

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PLATINUM POKEDEX ENTRY
> It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.

/THREAD YOU FUCKING MIDGETS

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:24:35 No.12225533 Report

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>>12225524
It's canonically stated that it's mythology

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:24:51 No.12225535 Report

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>>12225524

>it is said

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:24:52 No.12225536 Report

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>>12225494

How space and time works in fiction does not equal how it works in real life.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:24:55 No.12225537 Report

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Nothing. Arceus came and then the universe was born.

Literally came. He jizzed out the planets and all their inhabitants.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:26:20 No.12225548 Report

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>>12225494
That's called a Temporal paradox, if I remember correctly. Arceus created Giratina so Giratina could create Arceus and so forth. Note that he doesn't -actually- create Arceus -- he just happens to exist outside of time and space, and since Arceus lives within, Giratina would be the only source for his existence.

I don't like this theorizing anymore. Now I understand why people turn to Religion.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:28:21 No.12225564 Report

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>>12225533
>>12225535
gah

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:29:17 No.12225566 Report

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>>12225536
>implying pokemon isn't real

Also, if we're pretending this is all fictional nonsense, what's the point of this thread? "Nothing came before the creator" is too boring.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:30:12 No.12225572 Report

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>>12225494
Just because the Distortion World exists outside of space and time it doesn't mean it came BEFORE space and time were a thing.
Arceus is still the original one.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:33:12 No.12225587 Report

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The chicken

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:33:56 No.12225595 Report

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>>12225507
nice but hard to understand for an average anon

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:35:15 No.12225605 Report

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>>12225572
Actually it does. Time doesn't exist in the Distortion world, nor does space. Since there are no known places like the Distortion world, and the Universe = time and space, the distortion world is the only source for the creation of the Universe.

It's not very logical to be arguing about the logic behind a "paradox"...both arguments are invalid.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:36:43 No.12225618 Report

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>>12225572
Also, I see your point but there's nothing proving either argument invalid.

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:41:03 No.12225642 Report

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Flying Tangela Monster

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:43:06 No.12225659 Report

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Well anon, some say it's rock and roll

But I like to think it was Marsellus Wallace's soul

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 17:48:29 No.12225720 Report

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>>12225457

...this

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Anonymous Mon 06 May 2013 18:18:54 No.12225914 Report

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>>12225642
lel

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