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I can confirm that this month's CoroCoro has a feature on the long-rumored Fairy-type, although the Japanese name of the Type is "Yosei", so I am uncertain if this means that Hiro was necessarily correct. Sylveon is a pure-Yosei Type Pokemon, and is known as the Maryoku Pokemon, "Magical Charm". The attack shown in the trailers for the Mini-Movie is called Mirakuru Hou, "Miracle Cannon", and is said to heal the opposing Pokemon, yet greatly reduces their Attack and Special Attack. Clefairy, Togepi, Jigglypuff, Audino, Chansey, Skitty, and Dunsparce are shown with their "Normal" Type changed to Yosei Type. The magazine mentions that a recent event in the Pokemon World has awakened a long-ago sealed power, explaining the Type Change. More Pokemon are said to awaken to this power, hinting at additional Type changes. A Type Chart is shown displaying how Yosei Matches Up. - Yosei is immune to Dark and Dragon - Yosei is weak to Psychic, Poison, Bug, and Ghost - Yosei resists Fire, Water, Ground, and Flying. - No Type is weak to Yosei. - Fire, Water, Ground, and Flying resist Yosei. - No Type is immune to Yosei.
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sounds pretty rad if true
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>>12243673 I want to believe
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>weak to poison >mfw I can use muk more often
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>Immune to Dragon A man can dream.
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>>12243673 >Not weak to grass Eh whatever, as long as it's localized to
Light and not Fairy I'll be perfectly content with it.
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I would be VERY okay with this if it were true. Too bad it's not. I actually like the explanation for the type changes.
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>anyone can now switch blissey or chansey into an outrage for free oh god this is scary to think about
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Seems legit. Thank you, OP.
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>>12243673 >blissey/chansey no longer weak to fighting >the only decent physical bug types are scizor and heracross >only decent physical phychic is metagross and gallade >physical toxic and ghost are virtually nonexistant looks like skarmbliss is back stronger than ever before
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>>12243673 I want to believe
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>>12243759 >muh hyper offence! Fuck you, the game needs this.
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I'll just leave this here as a small reminder...
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>>12243774 NO FUCK YOU no one likes playing against stall and the metagame was fine with hyper offense
Anonymous
I hope this is true, Psychic and Ghost pokemon seem to be fucked by everything these days.
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>yosei doesn't resist fighting Nice try. Everyone knows if fairy is real then fairy/steel Mawile will have no weaknesses.
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>>12243785 >no one likes playing against stall Doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
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>>12243774 I've actually theorymonned a little about how to stop hyper offense, such as giving every pokemon 255 more EVs so that they'll just dump it into HP/defenses on sweeper spreads and bulk everything up a little more
But two immunities like this is absurd
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>>12243786 >Gen 2 >New types added to make Psychic weaker >Gen 6 >New types added to make Psychic stronger I don't know why I find that so amusing, but I absolutely do.
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>>12243791 Why the fuck would Mawile be a fairy?
awsumL3SFI !awsumL3SFI
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I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>Fire resists Yosei >Yosei resists fire Fucking what.
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>>12243796 >something that is hated by almost everyone >LETS KEEP IT IN THE GAME bet you also think using jirachi makes you good
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>>12243798 >2 immunities is ridiculous >ghost type exists Anonymous
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>immune to dragon Yes please>weak to poison and ghost Neat>resists and is resisted by 4 elements Pretty interesting
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>>12243818 is blissey ghost?
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>>12243803 Fairy egg group
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>>12243813 >i don't like it therefore its bad Arent you mature.
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>>12243673 What a load of crap. Good try.
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>An ancient Fairy awakens
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>The attack shown in the trailers for the Mini-Movie is called Mirakuru Hou, "Miracle Cannon", and is said to heal the opposing Pokemon, yet greatly reduces their Attack and Special Attack. Erm... which one, exactly ? The only one that looks remotely new is just Trump Card.
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This gens pseudo is gonna be Dragon/Yosei if this turns out to be true, calling it now
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>>12243844 >An ancient Fairy awakens >"Mewtwo's Awakening" Mewtwo forme confirmed for Fairy Type.
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Obviously with no source and having no reason to believe this post, I think OP is full of shit. However, I'll bite since I'm interested in the implications of this type match up. Dragon immunity basically murders Dragon as a type, which I feel may be a good thing. I like Dragon types, but most of them are already overpowered. Hopefully we'll get some defense-oriented dragons. I don't really see the point of the Dark immunity except for dealing with Sucker Punch, and making Ghost more viable as an offensive type. The proposed weaknesses are all fairly self-explanatory in terms of gameplay, except for maybe Psychic type. As for what they have to do with "yosei" I haven't a clue. Can't wait to see more U-turners and Psyshockers. The only thing the shared type resistances have in common is Weather. If I had to guess, Yosei is built around supporting weather teams through healing or defense. Not really surprising considering the Weather-centric focus the game has taken since Gen V. Like I said, no es hada, es fake. But its at least an elaborate attempt. 3/10, the shitstorm never ends.
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http://en.wikip edia.org/ wiki/Y%C5%8Dsei
Yosei means fairy.
Anonymous
Why would Skitty's type change to Fairy? It's a fucking cat.
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>>12243846 The movie trailer, not the game footage you dunce.
>>12243673 Retarded and retarded.
Only people that are retarded would believe this retarded person with their retarded "leak" "idea" "ocdohnutsteal" bullshit.
Go back to reddit you uneducated piece of shit.
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I don't necessarily believe it because "yosei is immune to dark and dragon" but it sounds super legit OP
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>>12243862 or8 m8 calm down then
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>>12243861 Looks like Cosmic Power to me.
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>>12243859 So OP can use Wikipedia, doesn't mean anything without ketchup.
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Don't falling at this obvious fake.
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Max Ayson is a gigantic flaming faggot
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They really should make it so that Ice Types resist Yosei. I want more Ice types in the metagame.
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>>12243858 The type resistances aren't weather. It's elements. Fire/Water/Ground(earth)/Flying(wind)
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>>12243862 Calm down.
There's no need to be this butthurt over something like this.
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>The attack shown in the trailers for the Mini-Movie is called Mirakuru Hou, "Miracle Cannon", and is said to heal the opposing Pokemon, yet greatly reduces their Attack and Special Attack. That seems pretty overpowered. Use it as soon as the Pokemon is thrown out, and they'll be fucked.
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I actually like all this and hope it's true. Poison needs the buff, while Dragon needs a nerf.
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>>12243786 How? "Yosei" will take double damage from both Psychic AND Ghost.
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>>12243934 This and possibly a fighting resistance would make it perfect. Maybe if the dragon immunity was just a resistance instead aswell.
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What if it fails on Pokemon with full HP?
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>>12243990 Shedinja would be unstoppable
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>>12243971 He was saying that recently they've been fucked by everything, so he's hoping that a new type would make them more useful.
>>12243952 Not really. Considering they can always switch out to get their attack back and OP says yousei isn't SE against anything so there isn't as much of a risk when switching out.
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>>12243990 >Sneaky Sediment >Miracle Cannon >Everyone is fucked Anonymous
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Fake as shit, but I actually kind of like the idea of fairy being some ancient power that just now awakened and now certain Pokemon are fairy type.
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>>12243952 Smogon has pretty much dismissed every method of lowering the opponent's stats as "useless" (other than intimidate) so I can't imagine it will be too bad at least. I mean, mispredict and a wall gets a free recover I'm guessing
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>>12243673 >mfw just made a 'fairy type' pokemon >mfw its the yosei pokemon Anonymous
>>12243952 it'd probably fail if the opponent is at full hp like every other recovery move.
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>>12243947 Ah, didn't pick up on that, but it would make sense. Regardless, Water and Fire are both boosted by Rain/Sun, Flying as an offensive type has become more common (Hurricane) and Ground types are still popular despite immunities. I'm not too ingrained in the metagame though, just making some general observations.
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>>12244047 >Smogon has pretty much dismissed every method of lowering the opponent's stats as "useless" True since a lot of them don't lower the opponent's stats enough but shit like Memento that actually forces the opponent to switch out, that's pretty handy.
Anonymous
>>12243947 Do the japanese even really use that 4 elemental earth/fire/wind/water system a lot?
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>>12244047 It seems like it would be more useful in Triple battles to use on your own pokemon, although it would only be useful on walls or Pokemon who can safely switch often. Hope people aren't still to mad about Stealth Rock...
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>>12244093 Thanks for knocking out one of your dudes. Just let me switch to an appropriate counter to what you send out to replace the Momento user.
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>>12243947 >yosei resists the four elements >captain planet said heart was the strongest element >yosei is heart type Anonymous
>>12243774 Were you not around for Gen. II? Blissey dominated the metagame.
I really, really don't want to see another SkarmBliss-like defensive core become overly prevalent. I hate hyper-offense too, but this isn't a good way to stop it. It'll just make Blissey, and maybe Chansey, uber, and that won't fix Rain Teams: The Metagame at all.
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>>12243812 >Bug resists Fighting >Fighting resists Bug Fucking what.
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I want to believe. Really, it would be very interesting if this is true.
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>>12244114 A free turn is all you need to set up sometimes.
Oh, what's that? I used Memento, switched to Terrakion and used Sub while you switch, giving me yet another free turn to set up a SD, and you have nothing holding a Scarf or anything that resists both of its STABs? GG.
Anonymous
Am I right in assuming that nobody here actually believes this but just finds the proposed ideas kind of interesting?
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>not super-effective against anything Do we really need another Normal-type Type?
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>>12244114 You don't fucking use it when your guy is full health retard.
Like Uxie for example, do whatever the fuck he needs to do, set up walls and shit I don't care and when he has done his thing and is low on health, then use memento.
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>>12244106 Often enough for it to make sense. Besides, fire/water/earth/air is probably the most widely recognized four-element system, especially in the West, where Gamefreak/Nintendo has been focusing their most recent Pokemon games.
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>>12244124 Sylveon evolves through SHABADOOBIE confirmed
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>>12243803 Looks more Fairy than steel to me.
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>>12243673 Girly pokemon confirmed for Yosei type.
Also does Audino look like a pregnant woman to anyone else? I think in the pokedex 3d they even modeled little breasts for her. And those child bearing hips!
Anonymous
>>12244143 Well... it's at least better than the retards who keep proposing it to be strong against Dragon, fighting, steel to "balance" the metagame.
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>>12243928 Max Ayson is a gigantic flaming Yosei type
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>>12244047 >Smogon has pretty much dismissed every method of lowering the opponent's stats as "useless" You say that like someone made a conscious decision and told everyone not to use them. Everything Smogon does is based on usage statistics and numbers. People don't use those moves and Smogon doesn't recommend them because they're just not very good.
People don't use many moves that lower opponent's stats because the opponent can just switch to negate the changes. You're usually better off boosting your own Pokemon's stats than lowering the stats of your opponent's Pokemon. They're not useless, your time is just usually better spent using other moves.
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>>12244143 I don't really see a point in arguing its validity, especially not on /vp/. However I do find the weaknesses amusing.
>Poison Since its useless otherwise, and makes some sense considering fairies as "nature spirits" and many Poison types having an industrial theme (Muk, Garbodor, ect.)
>Bug Google "Bondage Fairies" and you'll understand.
>Ghost Don't really get this one, but at least it differentiates itself from Dark
>Psychic Yeah, I got nothing.
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>>12244219 >You say that like someone made a conscious decision and told everyone not to use them No I didn't. Everything else you said was common sense, and I agree with.
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>>12244144 What would you propose be weak to "Fairy" while keeping the game balanced? Besides, Normal is more of a neutral typing, while Fairy seems more useful as a defensive/supporting type.
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>>12243860 Also its ability is Normalize. That would be pretty stupid to change its type, unless its ability gets changed to Fairy-ize.
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>>12244267 >What would you propose be weak to "Fairy" while keeping the game balanced? politoed type
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>>12244267 Based on outliers of most weakness/resisted/etc on the type chart.
It's pretty heavy loaded because you're trying to fix it all with one type.
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>>12243860 Because the idiots who believe in the fairy type seem to think that every single pink pokémon must be a Fairy. Apparently it's more the Pink Type.
Anonymous
>Throw in a random chink word "Yosei" and they'll believe me. >Copy a post from 2-3 days ago about how a power was unleashed and it made Fairy type. >Be this shitty at fakeinfoing. Get out.
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>>12243858 you say that dragons are overpowered, and you're right but atleast they have a excuse, fighting onthe other hand is way overpowered and nothing can opose it,
if something needs to be nerfed its fighting type.
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>>12244321 But then spiritomb/sableye would have a weakness!
Dark should be immune to fairy because dark is still a pretty shit type
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>>12244353 No one thinks it's real you idiot, we're just entertaining the possibility.
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>>12244368 >but at least they have an excuse How is "dargons r supposed to be overpowered!" a proper excuse when discussing game balance?
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>>12244384 I didn't say anyone believed him you fucking goon.
I just said it was a shitty post.
Reading comprehension.
Anonymous
>>12243673 Mostly believable, except for one thing...How is it that nothing can be weak against a Fairy Type attack? I would understand that for normal types...since they're well...normal but Dragon Type attacks are mostly like that too.
If Fairy attacks aren't Super Effective against anything, then it's kinda pointless having them in isn't it? I mean...even Dragon attacks are Super Effective against other dragon types.
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>>12244368 >you say that dragons are overpowered Actually Dragon as a typing by itself is not really that broken. Sure it's a nice STAB, but it won't hit many things for super effective damage like Fighting and Ice. Teh resistances are nice, but nothing out of this world
The thing si that Dragon typing is usually given away to things with monstrous stats like Latios, Salamence or Haxorus.
Whe given to something with meager stats, you find out Dragon-type is not that great. Liek Druddigon or Altaria
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>>12244353 "Yousei" is Japanese for "fairy". It's hardly a "random chink word", racist fuck.
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>>12244368 Well, fighters are very physical oriented, type aside. Makes sense they should have significantly higher attack stats than other types
Same thing for steel. It's meant to be a defensive type because metal is hard, etc. Makes sense that they should have crazy defenses.
It's not by any particular means balanced, but you can at least reason why they're so OP.
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>>12244425 >implying you need to hit things super effectively It has one resist. If you don't have a steel type you are already dead
Anonymous
So what are the type matchups for fairy type going to be? And what about moves? I'm not really sure what moves could be converted to fairy type.
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>>12244327 > sylveon names alludes to fairy in multiple languages(in german it even has fairy in the name) > people who believe in the fairy type are idiots. Fairy fags have a lot more ammo than the naysayers
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>>12244431 but you're saying exactly why fighting is "broken" , and it's because nothing can wall it.
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>>12244368 At the very least, Fairy would hypothetically increase Ghost and Psychic usage, which should at least make players more wary about switching in Fighting types. I understand your point though.
>>12244321 Obviously trying to fix the entire system with a single type is lunacy. All things considered, providing immunity to one of the most OP types, providing a useful pivot typing for popular Weather-centric types, and giving a few underused types a new function would at least hypothetically stabilize the game in a way in which more types could be viable.
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>>12244439 >OH NO, AN ALTARIA, I AM COMPLETELY SCREWED BECAUSE I NEVER BROUGHT A STTEL TYPE Anonymous
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>>12244447 I could see Recover being fairy
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>>12244439 Being Dragon doesn't instantly make you broken.
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>>12244439 Once again that only happens because Dragon type is given away with usually strong, powerful offensive stats
I'm pretty sure I can manage fighting an ALtaria even if my Steel type is dead
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>>12244450 Half the wishing about Fairy typing stems from people whining about Dragons and Steels.
Anonymous
You all do realize that in japan, "yosei" fairies look more like Mawile or Froslass than things like Clefairy, right?
Anonymous
>>12244455 Just outright being immune to Dragon is a piss poor way of balancing stuff out.
All they had to do was be Dragon resistant.
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fake as fuck, but this post makes the Fairy type concept not seem so farfetch'd...
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>>12244409 People don't really use Steel type moves for their Rock and Ice coverage. I can't imagine balancing the game by making Fairy super effective against Overused types, since it would just centralize Fairy as the new OU type.
>>12244447 Read OP's post.
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So what pokemon would be converted to fairy type? Would it just be a dumping ground for all the generic pink-colored "cute" normal pokemon from blissey to delicatty to jigglypuff?
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>>12244482 >muh mawile evo Anonymous
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>>12244482 Of course nobody understands that, these idiots just think that Fairy = Pink.
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>>12244482 You're thinking of youkai, which is not the same thing. The fairies from Touhou (and their leader, Daiyousei) are a better place to start.
That said, the Japanese yousei *is* closer to the old Fair Folk concept than the modern Disney-Tinkerbell concept of a fairy.
Anonymous
>>12244267 Poison, Dark. Flying
Maybe Electric though that's a bit of a stretch. I'm waiting for the day when electric types are weak against something other than Ground.
Anonymous
Fuck I so want to play this when it first comes out in japan, but the 3ds is still not hacked. Has anyone else donated money to that 3ds de chip thing? I need this.
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>>12244517 Yosei more of a qualifier for western fairies than anything.
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Eh, Ghost-type and Dragon-type Pokemon utilize both Western and Eastern style creatures, I don't see why Yosei can't do the same.
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>>12244527 >waiting for the day when electric types are weak against something other than Ground why if earthquake exists?
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>>12244535 It's a worldwide release
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>>12244535 Gen VI comes out at the same time everywhere, there's no wait time when we only have the Japanese version anymore.
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>- Yosei resists Fire, Water, Ground, and Flying. >- Fire, Water, Ground, and Flying resist Yosei. The four elements! That actually makes sense>- No Type is weak to Yosei. Well that's kinda lame, but eh, two immunities
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>>12244535 >Simultaneous worldwide release Anonymous
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>>12244535 It comes out same time worldwide bby
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>>12244550 Your mom sure didn't decline fucking me.
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>>12244375 How so? It isn't strong against ghost or dark? In fact it's weak against ghost...
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>>12244541 Because I want to use something besides earthquake to smite electric types.
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>>12244517 Uh, Daiyousei is some random midboss in Cirno's stage that gets no characterization at all... The name Daiyousei "greater fairy" just means she doesn't die in one hit like all the other fairies in the stage.
On the other hand, Cirno and the Three Fairies of Light are probably good examples of fairies.
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>>12244493 You have to admit that Dragon type has a disproportionate amount of pokes with very high offensive stats; Steel can still deal with them, but that forces usage of Fighting and Ground types. A Dragon immunity just means poeple can't spam Outrage/Draco Meteor to sweep teams.
Besides, this won't cripple Dragon pokemon as a whole; most of them have varied movepools to deal with multiple threats. Steel will still be useful, just not the single Dragon killer besides a faster Dragon. As a fan of basically all Dragon pokemon, I feel that this would help take away the bias of Dragons being overpowered by default. Besides, Ground and Fighting immunity has never stopped them from being useful offensive types.
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>>12244589 And then Dragon STAB became useless because any fairy type can just switch in and tank.
Blissey being Fairy type is just gonna be SkarmBliss MkII.
Anonymous
>>12243673 So what's the word on this? Fake?
I am not a smart man and I'd rather not figure this stuff out for myself.
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>>12243673 >mfw delta pokemon are now available >mfw when having an electric tyranitar and dragon furret Anonymous
Those type statistics are very retarded. Faker than Pamela Anderson's boobs.
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>>12243673 >- Yosei resists Fire, Water, Ground, and Flying. I see wat you did there.
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>>12244631 Could be legit.
The part about nothing being weak against Fairy attacks is rubbing me the wrong way though.
I hope that's not true.
Anonymous
>>12244615 Yeah you're right. Just like fighting STAB is useless because any ghost type can just switch in and tank. Fighting is such a useless offensive type now because something is immune to it.
Anonymous
>>12244615 One immunity won't cripple Dragons as a whole, especially if Fairy has four weaknesses which can be exploited. All it means is you need a more complex strategy than Choice Item + Dragon.
Although I can't say I'm too familiar with SkarmBliss, Psyshock is now (hypothetically) super effective against Blissey and mixed attackers are much more common than they were in Gen II.
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>>12244647 >Faker than Pamela Anderson's boobs. Haha good one Peter hahqaha
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>>12244631 Fake, but interesting.
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>>12244631 More than likely fake. Still no pics of the new issue so no one knows if corocoro even has anything about pokemon this month for sure
Anonymous
Sounds like MAGIC TYPE to me>immune to dark and dragons >The elements (fire, earth, wind and water) resist magic and vice-versa The only weaknesses that seems to make sense to me are Psychic (logic beating superstition) and Ghost (ghosts being ethereal beings) though.
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>>12244669 >mixed attackers are much more common than they were in Gen II. Bwahahahahaha....
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>>12244226 >Ghost Well, they're fairies, right? They'd be immune to evil(Dark and Dragons) and still weak to impurities, like toxins and ghosts.
>Psychic Dude, do you even Peter Pan? Fairies lose strength/die when you don't believe about them. What makes you disbelieve in fairies? A thinking, logical brain.
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>>12244664 >>12244669 >Implying that pokemon being immune to Dragons is the same as pokemon being immune to Fighting types. Fighting hits way more common threats effectively than Dragon does.
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>>12244693 Is that your rebuttal? Reminding you this is all hypothetical, so I'm rather not waste too much of my time jumping for trollbait.
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>>12244714 Dragon can hit basically anything but Steel without having to worry about resistances, and considering a number of OU Dragons are heavily offensive oriented with movepools that can cover almost every type regardless, I don't see how a single immunity ruins everything.
>>12244722 Dude I don't care about your hypothesis and stuff, but the one statement I quoted was just a stupid comparison.
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If this Fairy type is true, what would be the weakness of a hypothetical pokemon with all 18 types?
>>12244722 Dude I don't care about your hypothesis and stuff, but the one statement I quoted was just a stupid comparison. Just say "Gen III" and you're fine.
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>>12244690 >>12244703 Makes about as much sense as the rest of the Type chart, from my perspective. Although regardless, there will be shitstorms brewing if any of this is true.
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>>12244327 >Because the idiots who believe in the fairy type seem to think that every single pink pokémon must be a Fairy No they don't. Fairy type won't be like that at all. See: Xerneas
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>>12244768 Wasn't Fire/Dragon the magic combo for hitting everything?
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>>12244722 PSI isn't really about logic.
It kind of is superstition as well.
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>>12244775 >>12244802 I think you missed the point, but fair enough.
>>12244780 Ask Bulbapedia
Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g
Imma need to see those type matchup scans, and confirmations that they're actually in corocoro
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>>12244816 Fire/Dragon was the magic combo known as "Hello Heatran!" (except when you're name is Reshiram and you get an ability JUST for that). Dragon/Fighting hits everything neutral so far.
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>>12244813 If Xerneas isn't Rock/Psychic I'll be more than a little surprised.
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>>12244816 Sylveon walling Reshiram confirmed.
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>>12244845 It will be Steel/Fairy.
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>>12244841 >actually taking this seriously Anonymous
>>12244875 It can't hurt to do some elementary fact-checking to look for obvious holes while we wait for actual CoroCoro scans to leak and tell us definitively whether this is real or not.
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>>12244816 In which case Fairy would deal with both.
>>12244845 According to No Es Fake, Xerneas is Fairy and Yveltal is Dark/Flying. In which case Xerneas beats Yveltal, and Yveltal beats most of Xerneas' most pressing weaknesses. Suddenly, Honchkrow is OU; now this has to be fake.
Anonymous
>Not super effective on anything Normal 2.0, guys.
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>>12244917 But with, you know, resistances and immunities and keeping its normal-tier movepool.
Anonymous
>>12244917 Honestly, what the hell is the point then?
Anonymous
I'd be completely fine with this if it weren't for the dark immunity. That's just silly.
Anonymous
>>12244944 It's called Defensive Typing. Why do you think people use Steel type? Because Rock and Ice types have so few weaknesses...
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>>12244944 There is none. Not even if it's good against things.
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>>12244456 You ever seen Altaria dragon danced and outraging?
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>>12244968 I don't really understand this one either, but Fairies are commonly seen as being "good", so it would make sense for them to be immune to "evil".
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>>12244911 So basically, they invented Fairy type for whiny babies then?
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>>12244981 If you sit and let it set up then anything can be team destroying
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>>12244999 It's a type that made sense for certain pokemon and needed to balance things a bit.
No matter what, pokemon like clefairy and jigglypuff aren't what you'd call 'normal'.
Anonymous
>>12244999 The only people I see whining here are Dark and Dragon type users.
Anonymous
>>12245018 also the fairyfags who can't handle the fact that not everyone wants their shitty fantasy to be real
Anonymous
>>12245018 Did you magically miss the part about people whining about Dragons all the time?
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>>12243673 >miracle cannon stopped reading right there
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>>12244998 >Fairies >Good Aside from Disney fairies, the average fairy only do stuff because they can.
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>>12243673 >- Yosei is immune to Dark and Dragon you glorious faggot you think about the best things its just to bad this isnt real.
I can't WAIT untill Sylveon will be confirmed as a Normal type pokemon like anyone who is not retarded would guess. And if it's flying or fighting it's the dumbest looking Eeveelution ever, but still loads better than it being so fucking GAY as "fairy" as type. Face it people, adding a new type THIS late in the franchise's life cycle will only be cumbersome to deal with. The metagame will collapse, and Hidden Power would need a COMPLETE redesign. This would also mean you can not transfer from gen5 to gen6 because of the complications with the type system Fairy won't happen. End of the discussion.
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>>12245035 I think you're in the wrong thread; not a single person here has said they believe OP's post as fact. Feel free to start spamming Ludicolo's if we are bothering you.
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>>12245060 Oberon, king of the fairies. Not particularly good, actually kind of a dick.
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>>12243673 HOLY SHIT /VP/
THIS JUST IN THE JAPANESE SITE
IT'S CONFIRMED
FAIRY TYPE IS CONFIRMED
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>>12245060 It's Pokemon; the type chart justifications are almost always superficial.
>>12245047 Like two whole posts worth, as opposed to daily rage threads over a non-existent type.
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>>12245111 Fucking shit
Went to the site and this is legit
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>>12245146 Wait no it's not
Fuck I'm an idiot
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>>12245111 Not even the same font. Nice try.
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>>12245111 made me look/10
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>immunity to dragon This needs to exist, I don't care if it's by type or pokemon ability but this shit needs to be a reality.>weak against poison If fairy types don't have above average speed and defense crobat and gengar are going to beat the ever living shit out of them.
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>immune to Dark and Dragon oh, my god, my dick
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>>12245217 >If fairy types don't have above average speed and defense crobat and gengar are going to beat the ever living shit out of them. Generally this is why a number of Pokemon have secondary typings. Or just switch out into the plethora of Pokemon that can deal with Crobat and Gengar.
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if you believe your a fucking idiot
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>not weak against Dragon at least dang. I'll take what I can get though.
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>>12244120 I think that before we get on the gen 6 meta we should wait to see new attacks/pokemon/abilities.
Although is true that most pokemon wont move tiers a lot, maybe rain will be halted by another new addition.
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>>12245273 You want dragon to be super effective against another type when it already has insane neutral coverage?
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>- Yosei is immune to Dark and Dragon >Resists Fire, Water, Ground, and Flying My fucking boner. Goddamn, that is a better defensive typing than steel.>Chansey gets Yosei type Oh for fuck's sake. One step forward, three steps back.
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>>12245082 You could transfer pokemon from gen 1 to gen 2 even with the typing change, so I don't see how that would be a problem.
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>>12245365 The only two Pokemon that change applied to were Magnemite and Magneton though
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>>12245365 He's talking about Hidden Power, which has its type determined by IVs.
I don't see why we can't just have a new formula that applies to pokemon generated in the new games, but he does.
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>>12245365 Gen2 invented Hidden Power.
Just think about it. Hidden Power would have to have Fairy added to the IV calculations.
Imagine the coding HELL this would induce.
Imagine having a Tyranitar with Hidden Power(Fire) but then you transfer it and the type becomes Fairy? How is that even going to work?
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>>12245427 lock in transferred Pokemon's hidden power
make a new equation for hidden power with gen 6 caught Pokemon
done
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>Chansey/Blissey get insane defensive typing >Weak to Psychic, Poison, and Bug. Medicham, Alakazam, Reuniclus, Mienshao (Muh u-turn), and Heracross are going to be very happy about this. They're about the only viable physical (muh psyshock) Psychic/Bugs in existence. Though, the concept of Paraflinch Togekiss with vastly improved defensive typing really irritates me.
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>>12245427 Set flag for legacy Pokemon that locks them into their old HP type.
Hell, you could even do away with IVs entirely and maintain HP compatibility. IVs are a fucking cancer that needs to go anyway.
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>>12244901 When do they usually leak anyways?
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>>12245427 Tyranitar "awakened".
End of story.
Like if Gamefreak cared...
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>>12245452 Coro is usually released on the 15th, so we can expect leaks sometime between the 10th and then
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>>12245451 > IVs are a fucking cancer that needs to go anyway. mah nigga
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>>12245441 >thinking there's any truth in this at all. Anonymous
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>>12245427 >Imagine the coding HELL this would induce. SOMEONE GET IWATA ON THE PHONE
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>Poison Jab Garchomp is now Standard
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>>12245441 The best way to shut down paraflinchkiss will still be just fucking paralyzing it anyway
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What a bizarre typing. It has no SEs but it has TWO immunities and 4 resists. That is the definition of a defensive type. Togekiss is going to be harder to kill because of this.
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>>12245436 Fucking this seriously, people are acting like it would be hell on Earth to do modify the HP calculations, when all you have to do is lock the HPs of transferred pokemon (just like you can't change the name of traded ones) and make a new value for the new type, which all new pokemon would be able to get.
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>>12244114 When shadow tag chandy is relased it may see some use, use memento then switch into another trapper to boost it, at least it's not fully useless.
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>>12245441 I'm assuming that if this was the case, Gamefreak would incorporate new pokemon/moves that would account for at least a few of these problems. There are more than enough physical threats that could counter Blissey, and Skarmory isn't quite as feared now as it used to be. Nothing is stopping them from creating more Psyshock rip-offs; we have a whole new gen of Pokmon/moves/ect. to compensate.
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>>12245427 If Fairy type isn't effective against any type, would there be a point to have a HP fairy?
Normal type doesn't have a HP after all.
So I think there simply wouldn't be a Fairy HP.
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>>12243673 Not believable enough. All those types changes, immunity to Dragon. It went full retard.
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>>12245535 The alternative to "lots of Pokémon's types changing" is "Fairy is underpopulated for the next decade". Pretty sure changing a lot of old Pokémon is better than it not being relevant until Gen XI.
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>>12245535 More convincing than SE against dragon, steel and fighting, at least in my opinion. It's probably fake anyway, if that makes you feel better.
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>>12244368 >fighting >overpowered You need to stop and think about this for more than 2 seconds.
1 type is immune to it (Ghost)
4 types resist it (Psychic, Flying, Poison, Bug). All of these are very common types.
That perfectly balances their 5 SEs.
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>>12245563 >150 new Pokémon >75 are fairy. Anonymous
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>>12244583 No need, being weak to Ground is a huge weakness.
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>>12245451 >IVs are a fucking cancer that needs to go anyway. >existed since the beginning >cancer Anonymous
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>>12245610 Just like with Dark and Steel in Gen II, right?
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>>12245427 >coding hell do you even program?
Hidden power is a fucking equation
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>>12245630 existing since the beginning doesn't make it any less bad. With that logic they should have never gotten rid of the gen 1 glitches or the physical/special types or the temporary TMs because they technically "existed since the beginning."
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>>12245630 Yeah, but since GF is uncapable of making the IV/EV/Natures mechanics understandable and visible by all players they ARE cancer that encourages Pokegenning
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>>12245610 Come on, France is gay enough.
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>>12245082 I thought Sylveon was confirmed to be a new type of pokemon. I hate that videogame newsites don't site their sources.
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>>12245840 I feel if anything, Fairy type is German-inspired, considering its significance with fairy-tales.
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>>12245920 I was more making a joke with his implication that there'd be an abundance of fairies in X/Y, which is often said to be taking place in the regional version of France.
And lots of cultures in Europe have fairies, were the Germanics the first?
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>>12246050 Probably not, but a few of the popular ones are of Germanic origin. But I'm sure they've been adapted over time, like all myths and legends.
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>>12245727 >implying it isn't lazy players that encourage Pokegenning You can get a guide for something even more annoying in another game why not pokemon?
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>>12243859 I think it'll be Nymph.
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You fags are making me want to go to the bookstore and actually buy an issue of CoroCoro just to prove you all wrong.
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>>12244969 See, here's the difference....
Steel type is at least super effective against things.
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>>12246221 For any specific reason? I feel that Fairy Type most accurately tells people what to expect from the type; although in the case of Xerneas its a bit misleading. "Nymph" just seems complicated and unnecessary.
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>>12246286 And Normal isn't. Were you trying to make a point?
>>12246245 Go right ahead, we're not going anywhere.
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>>12246245 CoroCoro always gets leaked a few days before it's up for sale, going to the store won't actually do anything even if you live in Japan.
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>immune to dark >mark dark even more inferior to ghost
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>>12246310 Not the other guy but I think the point was that with the exception of Normal types, all types are Super Effective against something.
Even Dragon which is virtually a glorified Normal attack is Super Effective against other dragon types.
Fairy type attacks not being Super Effective against anything just sucks. Plain and simple. Just go with Normal attacks if you're not gonna have anything be Super Effective.
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>>12245111 2/10 for making me look AND making me reply
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>>12245111 10/10, actually got me. You ACTUALLY got me.
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>no type is weak to Yosei Well, we can throw that on the Big Ol' Pile o' Worthless Shit.
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>>12246389 The point was that not every type needs to be SE against something else, and Normal proves this point.
Also, making Fairy SE against another type doesn't necessarily make Fairy a better type, it just makes the other type worse by giving it another weakness. Giving Fairy immunities and resistances means it can check and counter other types, and increases usage of less common types, This is how you balance the gameplay; making Fairy SE against popular types just means you can only use types useful against Fairy.
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anyone got the picture of slyveon saying "dont you believe in fariy types?"
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>>12246532 Because Normal is Normal. It's hardly a type. It's the category they throw in what is essentially fodder. Doing the same thing with a brand new "type" is pretty much only logical if they wish to cut down the 93 or so normal types they have and split them between the two types.
>>12244073 Heal Pulse works on full HP mons.
Also, Speaky Nebbles.
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>>12243673 >Yosei is weak to Psychic, Poison, Bug, and Ghost The streak continues.
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Sylveon is neutral to Skuntank.
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>>12246589 According to OP, that is almost exactly what they are doing, and the difference is that Normal has no resistances and only a single immunity that doesn't help very much. The proposed immunities/resistances for Fairy would make it highly viable for dealing with a number of powerful threats, and would primarily function as team support. We don't need another offensive typing, we have more than enough already.
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>>12246591 No, it doesn't. It still gives the same full HP message that trying to use Recover or Moonlight gives.
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>>12245441 >doesnt mention scizor niggah do you even bug type?
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>>12243673 >Still no Ice love Anonymous
>>12244124 But Wizard is based on western concepts.
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I would be fucking angry if this were true.>not making Fairy SE against Ghost and Dark >not ruining Sableye's and Spiritomb's gimmick >not hearing "muh light type" I think someone suggested it in another thread, but we need to lay siege to Game Freak's HQ.
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ITT: Competitive fags arguing about how a new type would "balance" Pokemon. Pokemon shouldn't be a goddamn argument. Can we just play that shit and smile and trade pokes back and forth? Holy fuck.
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>>12246958 As is the basis of Gen VI. Plus Japan tends to adopt ideas they think are cool, and claim it as their own. If they were going by their elemental system, we'd have a Void type by now.
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>>12247063 >not holding game makers to high standards Anonymous
>>12246977 Let's fricken do this, dudes. We plan it out and attack it, starting with planning where it actually is. Then we move on to how we all get there. How we won't get arrested for forming a mob, who exactly we're going to be yelling at, and what we'll be yelling.
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>>12247063 I'm not much of a competitive fag, but most Dragon-types are overpowered and need something to put them in their place. Also, Bug-types and Poison-types are nearly unusable.
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>>12247063 You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.
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>>12247110 I'm totally game
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>>12246977 >>12247110 You sound like children.
I say go for it though. Seeing "mob of angry manchildren arrested in game studio attack" would be priceless.
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>>12247110 〒 154-00044, No. 1 chome, Setagaya-ku, Tokyo Taishido Carrot Tower 22F Japan
Wikipedia tells me that's their HQ
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>>12246310 >>12246357 brb camping out at Aoyama
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>>12247063 Fucking casual.
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>>12247167 My apartment is right across the street from Pokemon HQ in case anyone wants me to go over and yell at them for a bit.
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>>12247244 It's a leak. There is no confirmation...yet.
Speaking of which, anyone know when CoroCoro is supposed to come out?
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>>12247271 normally between the 9-12th of every month, so very soon. This is eerily early, but seems rather credible as it was bundled with the tretta info as well.
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Sounds awful enough to be true.
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Besides the fact that nothing is weak to it, I'd actually be interested in this. I'll keep it in mind and wait a week to see if it's confirmed.
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>>12247228 Just keep yelling Skyrim + Pokemon until you get a restraining order from Satoshi Tajiri.
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>>12243673 should have posted this on the 10th or 11th, not today
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>>12243673 >Yosei is immune to Dark and Dragon >Yosei is weak to Psychic, Poison, Bug, and Ghost I want to believe.
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>>12245082 >this in denial enjoy your new fairy type faggot. it s happening
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>>12245082 >this in denial enjoy your new fairy type faggot. it is happening
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>>12243673 >The magazine mentions that a recent event in the Pokemon World has awakened a long-ago sealed power, explaining the Type Change While I don't necessarily think this corrocorro rumor is true, I do think this would be the best way to deal with any new type in any new gen.
>Dat type matchup chart Not really liking it; the fact that nothing is weak to fairy kinda bothers me. That said, holy shit I seriously hope poison will be super effective.
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>immune to dragon well, gonna enjoy those bulky ass pokemon who get the switch making the meta game their bitch
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<almost forgot this
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>>12247916 If it is real (though I see them changing the name to light in North America just because fairy sounds too "girly") Fairy is my new favorite type of pokemon!
Just because I love all the hate that comes with it. I can see the threads 5 years from now already: "Remember when Pokemon wasn't gay and didn't have a fairy type?" Anonymous
>>12245082 Couple things wrong
>implying fairy is "gay" Guess you don't know your old European Fairy Folklore. Also, fairy isn't just Tinkerbell creatures; hell, things like goblins and changelings are considered fairies.
Also, gay as an insult? What is this, 7th grade? >his would also mean you can not transfer from gen5 to gen6 because of the complications with the type system You could transfer from gen 1 to 2 (which added 2 new types). So no. The only thing you couldn't do was transfer pokemon back to gen 5, just like with almost every other gen where you can't trade backwards a gen.
>The metagame will collapse, No it won't, fearmonger. Hell, it may even bring some balance and some changeups to the stale metagame.
>Hidden Power would need a COMPLETE redesign Your only actual good point, but I'm certain gamefreak can get around this little problem.
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>weak to poison Gentlemen, at last the time has come.if only it wasn't fake
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>>12248092 imo "magic" type makes more sense than "light" because faries are typically magic related
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>>12248092 >implying that'll be 5 years from now It'll just be another sect of the fandom that's stagnant and stupid, like genwuners. Hell, the threads will come after this is confirmed to be no es fake.
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>Yosei is immune to Dark and Dragon Welp, there goes Hydregion
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>>12248092 >5 years from now >implying 4chan won't be dead within the next year or two Anonymous
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>>12245415 So what? It's not like you couldn't transfer them. They went through just fine, and when they came out, bam, Steel type.
If they could do it then, what could possibly stop them now?
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>>12245530 This. All of this.
No HP problem now, bitches. Embrace the change.
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Did someone say Yusei?
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>doubles/triples >use miracle cannon on a contrary mon >free hp and +2 attack and special attack Yeah, no.
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>>12248316 >one move might be overpowered in specifically set-up scenarios OH NO! This must be the reason we can't have a new type!
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>>12248092 how is light related to fairy at all?
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>>12248099 >What is this, 7th grade? Well considering we're in /vp/...
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>>12248159 >implying this wasn't said 5 years ago Anonymous
>>12248430 How is dark related to evil? It was just the first thing that came to my mind. It won't be fairy because that's not how NoA rolls: everyone got Luigi's Mansion 2 but North America got the subtitle Dark Moon so Fairy is faaaar too girly for them.
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>>12248440 True enough.
What color would the type use around the typename in game? Purple is taken by ghost and poison, pink is used by psychic, blue is water, etc. What would fairy be?
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>>12248459 >everyone got Luigi's Mansion 2 but North America got the subtitle Dark Moon so Fairy is faaaar too girly for them. True. Magic or Light seem the next most likely. Maybe Nymph, but that's a bit of a stretch. Mystic, perhaps?
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>>12248415 Because i said anything about not having a new type.
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>>12248460 Bright Pink. Purple is more of a fuchsia.
>>12248495 Fairy. Just fairy.
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>>12248664 Yeah. I wish it would just be fairy too.
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>>12248731 That poor quality but the point is the North American one is several shades darker than the European one. Anonymous
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>>12248316 >because lum/swagger is destroying the meta Not to mention all Contrary pokemon basically all suck
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Not to bring tvtropes into this, but the whole "the name fairy is too girly for NA" and the Luigi's mansion thing are, unfortunately, true.
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmericanKirbyIsHardcore Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g
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>>12246594 I'm sorry, were you implying that Gengar and Starmie were ever going to lose their OU spot? They're both increadibly fast sweepers and strong sweepers with access to increadible move pools, including valuable utility moves such as Haze (Gengar) and Rapid Spin (Starmie). Without an insane level of power creep coming out of X and Y, those two will never lose OU status, fairy type or no fairy type.
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Is Mononokehimemon going to be fairy type?
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>>12248953 The first fairy legendary, and a badass at that.
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>>12244106 LMAO what? Have you ever played an RPG?
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>>12248092 I can totally see them translating it as "Mystic" or "Magic(al)"
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So is this "yusei" type real or not?
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>>12250549 No, Sylveon is flying type.
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>>12243673 >introduce new types so make psychic less OP >now, let's change a fuckton of pokemon to be weak to psychic