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Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:20:27 No.12475259 View View Reply Original Report

Who's Idea was this /vp?

Challenging the elite four in any order took the mystery and sense of progression away from it. It's easier for post game training, but even then, I liked the long hard road to the champion a lot better.

Hope XY goes back...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:23:18 No.12475279 Report

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>Who's Idea was this /vp?
Game Freak, who else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:23:44 No.12475286 Report

Quoted By: >>12476096

>Implying

Pick the order is the shit.

For staters every Elite 4 is equal among themselves and together they make a much more threatning group.

Second it's badass as fuck, having 4 chambers in front of you with incredibly powerful trainers ahead.

Not to mention int he normal progression normally includes the first and second E4 to be underleveled chumps that can be smacked around, whiel Unova's E4 has the potencial to be a challenge as a whole

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:23:49 No.12475287 Report

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Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:25:23 No.12475299 Report

Quoted By: >>12475307

I have a question.
Why do we have only elite four and champion challenge in pokemon League.

Shouldn't we participate in tournament, win all our matches in there against trainers and then became invited to elite four challenge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:26:12 No.12475307 Report

Quoted By: >>12476146

>>12475299
That's anime stuff, but a little preliminar tournment to access the E4 would've been amazing.

PWT should be used for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 17:31:12 No.12475353 Report

Quoted By: >>12476114

I like the concept, but it makes beating one of them mean nothing since then, you can beat all of them. At least when you beat the first one before, there was usually a more powerful one after it. It was a test of your abilities. B/W were made so that they would be easier since people got lost for whatever reason in D/P/Pt. Kalos doesn't look straitforward, but one can't tell if that means anything as to how difficult it will be. It's possible they will continue to do this to make it more accessible.

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Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 19:21:39 No.12476096 Report

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>>12475286
This

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 19:23:48 No.12476114 Report

Quoted By: >>12479885 >>12479904 >>12479995 >>12480031 >>12480099

>>12475353
>it makes beating one of them mean nothing since then, you can beat all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 May 2013 19:27:42 No.12476146 Report

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>>12475307
I thought the victory road was the preliminary challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 01:56:13 No.12479885 Report

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>>12476114
Pretty much dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 01:58:31 No.12479904 Report

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>>12476114
>what is raising levels as you progress to the champion, thus raising difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:02:02 No.12479936 Report

Quoted By: >>12480103 >>12480156

>Not allowing the player to be able to fight them in any order, but the order at which you fight them adjusts their levels to suit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:08:34 No.12479995 Report

Quoted By: >>12480084 >>12480094 >>12480304

>>12476114
>Battle 1: Your team of level 40s vs their team of level 40s
>Battle 2: Your team of level 41s vs their team of level 42s
>Battle 3: Your team of level 42s vs their team of level 44s
>Battle 4: Your team of level 43s vs their team of level 47s
>Champion: Your team of level 44s vs their team of level 50s

compared to BW2 Challenge Mode
>Battle 1: Your team of level 60s vs their team of level 60s + a level 62
>Battle 2: Your team of level 61s vs their team of level 60s + a level 62
>Battle 3: Your team of level 62s vs their team of level 60s + a level 62
>Battle 4: Your team of level 63s vs their team of level 60s + a level 62
>Champion: Your team of level 64s vs their team of level 61s + a level 63

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:12:59 No.12480031 Report

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>>12476114
But it's true. There is normally about a 10 level increase from the weakest pokemon of the first E4 member to the stronger pokemon of the champion. But all that is out the window if you can challenge them in any order

I appreciate that they tried to mix it up, but it didn't have that same "heavy" feeling to it. It was just like "okay, here's this lobby. Now go around and fight all the guys and when you're done, come back here and fight the champion."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:17:41 No.12480084 Report

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>>12479995
>>Battle 1: Your team of level 40s vs their team of level 40s
>>Battle 2: Your team of level 41s vs their team of level 42s
>>Battle 3: Your team of level 42s vs their team of level 44s

>There are people who aren't already higher than that level by the time they reach the Elite 4.

Top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:18:21 No.12480094 Report

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>>12479995

>being the same level as the E4 and champion

You need to stop grinding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:18:47 No.12480099 Report

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>>12476114

Don't make you lose your argument by posting that fucking antipathic picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:19:07 No.12480103 Report

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>>12479936
Take this one step further and make it so all trainers and wild pokemon levels are based on your current team's levels. An antigrinding measure.

Of course, it'd need to be done properly, or else we get a situation like Oblivion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:22:58 No.12480129 Report

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>>12480031
Most people are already at a mid-level by the time they were at the Elite 4 anyway. That makes the level increase easy and makes the first 3 battles meh.

>It was just like "okay, here's this lobby. Now go around and fight all the guys and when you're done, come back here and fight the champion

The orignal version was worse. "Fight the weak guys over there, the real challenge isn't really until the the last two then you fight the champ." It makes the group divided and makes certain trainers not as as" elite." B/W made them seem more as an elite group contrast to previous gens.

Kenly !IWWqFC.oLY

Kenly !IWWqFC.oLY Wed 29 May 2013 02:25:08 No.12480152 Report

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Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:25:16 No.12480156 Report

Quoted By: >>12480681

>>12479936
I'd prefer if order and levels of the E4 are randomized each time. You don't really know who's next, just that they have slightly higher level pokemon than the previous E4

And to throw in another twist, as soon as you enter a new room the player automatically challenges the E4 member. You can't switch your party around before then.

Kenly !IWWqFC.oLY

Kenly !IWWqFC.oLY Wed 29 May 2013 02:29:19 No.12480189 Report

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>one of the only times the game gives you a choice on where you want to go first
>wah it's not a "long and difficult" road any longer
>it's almost the exact same thing no matter what order you fight them in
You're the worst. And unless you focus on one single Pokemon, all of your Pokemon will stay at relatively the same level, especially if they're all 47+.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:41:25 No.12480270 Report

Quoted By: >>12480294

>>12475259
>Challenging the elite four in any order took the mystery and sense of progression away from it. It's easier for post game training, but even then, I liked the long hard road to the champion a lot better.

You act as if you automatically know whose room you're walking into.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:44:38 No.12480294 Report

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>>12480270
I don't agree with OP but the plaque in the middle essentially tells you who is where, and you can leave before going up the path to them, so you can tell by the room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 02:46:10 No.12480304 Report

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>>12479995
>being the same level as the weakest E4

No wonder you idiots find it less challenging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 03:31:11 No.12480681 Report

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>>12480156
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