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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:25:40 No.12514399 View View Reply Original Report

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You can either remove entry hazards or random critical hits from Pokemon. What will it be?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:27:06 No.12514410 Report

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None, since I don't play competitive.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:27:21 No.12514414 Report

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>>12514399
Hazards.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:30:51 No.12514428 Report

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>>12514399
Hazards. Without crits, it would be impossible to kill things that had ridiculous defense boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:32:38 No.12514440 Report

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Can I remove the people who complain about them, instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:33:06 No.12514444 Report

Hazards. My quads confirm this answer is the correct answer to the question posed by your dubs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:33:09 No.12514445 Report

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Remove crits. They're bullshit. My Suicune beefed up on Calm Mind has fallen prey to crits far too many times for me to count. I hate hazards too, but maybe they'll add a new ability that dispels them upon switching in.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:34:00 No.12514450 Report

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>>12514444

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:35:28 No.12514459 Report

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Entry hazards

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:37:39 No.12514474 Report

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>>12514444

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:38:46 No.12514483 Report

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>>12514444
what

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:39:28 No.12514489 Report

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Neither, they're only a problem is you don't know how to handle them, even crits

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:40:46 No.12514494 Report

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>>12514444
>1251444 quads
>7:33 dubs
Noice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:41:41 No.12514497 Report

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>>12514489
This

Honestly the people who want Hazards to go are either die-hard Charizard fags or enjoy fighting the Rotom-W/Scarf Scizor core and the brilliant startegy of U-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCHU-TURNVOLTSWITCH

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:41:46 No.12514500 Report

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>>12514444

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:43:20 No.12514504 Report

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>>12514489
Agree with you on hazards.

But you must be a retarded autist if you think someone can handle criticals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:44:51 No.12514521 Report

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None. Both have their uses that keep the meta balanced. Hazards simply add a cost to switching and promote better strategy, crits punish set-up spam and pressure the opponent, as well as give everything a way to fight stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:45:20 No.12514528 Report

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>>12514497
It doesn't even phase people with VoltTurn strategies since you all you need is something with taunt to stop stealth rocks.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:45:21 No.12514529 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:45:59 No.12514540 Report

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>>12514444
I'm impressed

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:48:49 No.12514562 Report

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>>12514489
lol, this guy is apparently prepared for crits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:49:10 No.12514566 Report

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Criticals. I have no problem with hazards.

>Play against a guy with much higher skill and win due to crits
>guy is mad even when you try to apologize
>next guy is an incredibly noobish idiot
>wins due to crits
>"fuck yurself n00b xDDDDD yoloswag :DDD"

If you let the enemy get up to much entry hazards it's basicaly your fault, it's different with crits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:51:40 No.12514573 Report

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>>12514399
Crits

Entry hazards only need to be nerfed

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:51:43 No.12514574 Report

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Hazards only because Copycat Roar Riolu exists and I'm never prepared for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:54:12 No.12514588 Report

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>>12514562
Is not as being prepared for a crit, but for a OHKO out of nowhere, wich you have to consider will happen ("surprise" teams, oponent making good desicions when you switch in, when they make a team around critical attacks, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:56:10 No.12514597 Report

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>>12514444
You did good kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:58:48 No.12514606 Report

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>>12514562

>Not considering Lucky Chant to be as vital a team support move as Stealth Rock, Rapid Spin or Heal Bell

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 14:59:42 No.12514612 Report

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>>12514566
This, although they should just be removed from the competitive though.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:01:49 No.12514627 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:04:28 No.12514643 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:11:25 No.12514690 Report

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>>12514566
Crits are important seeing as they let you counter stall, and put pressure on the opponent if they try to set up defense boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:15:15 No.12514719 Report

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Crits aren't too bad as they can work both with and against any team. Hazards immediately put you at a disadvantage if you don't use them and they render certain Pokemon useless.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:16:19 No.12514727 Report

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I am asian and I am confusd. Aren't crits necessary for female orgasms?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:24:50 No.12514774 Report

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>>12514727

grills can't have orgasms. It's a myth. I should know. I'm an American pastor.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:26:11 No.12514780 Report

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>>12514727
>female
>l
you just blew your cover

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 15:31:56 No.12514811 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:31:24 No.12515263 Report

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>>12514444
It shall be done then.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:34:41 No.12515286 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:38:42 No.12515322 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:41:43 No.12515349 Report

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>>12514444
...well.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:42:31 No.12515360 Report

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>>12514690
I.... agree.___

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:42:54 No.12515362 Report

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hazards, any time

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:43:36 No.12515366 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 16:49:30 No.12515406 Report

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>>12514444
How the fuck...

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:00:30 No.12515526 Report

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>>12514399
entry hazards
>Weavile and nearly every other UU ice type for OU

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:03:22 No.12515548 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:09:25 No.12515611 Report

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>>12514444

>wow

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:10:13 No.12515619 Report

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>>12515526
Not when scizor exists m8

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:30:43 No.12515791 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:40:27 No.12515853 Report

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G !!2Gfu63PIyWd Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:43:32 No.12515877 Report

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>>12514444

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:44:47 No.12515888 Report

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>>12514399
obviously crits.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:46:00 No.12515899 Report

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>getting this excited over quads
>on /vp/

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:49:14 No.12515930 Report

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>>12515888
see
>>12514444
quads > trips

but good effort. Here's a 5th gen Pancham using his leaf as a cigar.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:52:06 No.12515955 Report

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Remove substitute

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G !!2Gfu63PIyWd Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:56:55 No.12515999 Report

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>>12515877
>>12515888
>>12515899
>Dubs
>Trips
>Dubs again
What a thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 17:58:04 No.12516006 Report

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>n-n-NO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING LUCK-BASED IN THIS GAME THAT I CAN'T CONTROL
>m-muh charizards, it's not fairrrr

So you're asking me if I'm autistic or a butthurt whiner?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 18:04:12 No.12516051 Report

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>>12514444
>quads
>dubs in posting time
>dubs in OP as stated

>mfw the prophecy is fulfilled.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 18:07:44 No.12516081 Report

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>>12515999
>999
>mfw even the people pointing it out get trips

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 18:32:46 No.12516289 Report

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>>12514399
ENTRY HAZARDS AS IF THAT'S EVEN A QUESTION
No more sneaky pebbles for MY Charizard!

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 20:42:44 No.12517427 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:09:29 No.12518257 Report

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:11:17 No.12518271 Report

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>all these people saying hazards
You are everything wrong with this world.

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G !!2Gfu63PIyWd Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:12:02 No.12518280 Report

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>>12518271
No u

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:16:10 No.12518302 Report

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>>12516006
But luck based shit is never good for a competitive game.
Imagine if you had to roll a dice first everytime you try to take an opponent's pawn in chess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:17:23 No.12518315 Report

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>>12518271
crits can break a staller
entry hazards centralize the meta (or at least, stealth rock does)
one has an important purpose, while the other just makes the meta boring

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:18:02 No.12518321 Report

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>>12518280
Winning due to critluck feels just as frustrating as losing due to critluck if you have any sense of competitiveness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:19:27 No.12518341 Report

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>>12518315
Please explain how hazards centralize the meta.
Which pokemon is every team forced to run because of the existance of hazards?
You don't need crits to beat stall if you play correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:29:47 No.12518459 Report

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>>12518315
Stealth Rock is only a problem if you run a team with a massive rock weakness which would die anyway because a lot of pokemon run Stone Edge and the like for coverage.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:31:27 No.12518477 Report

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>>12518315
>I'm bad and let my opponent set up 6 cms/curses and I don't run any (p)hazers and I also don't use any status moves but I still want to win so crits are necessary for this game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:36:28 No.12518517 Report

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>>12515899
Nobody gives a shit about quads

People give a shit about calling quads and getting them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:39:07 No.12518537 Report

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>>12518517
That's what he said.
Calling and getting quads on a slow board like /vp/ is nothing special.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 22:43:02 No.12518580 Report

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>>12518341
Because shit like Yanmega are forced to always always always lead because of fucking stealth rock.

The only reason Volcarona is OU is because dem stats.

It's retarded how pokemon are punished just by type. Types that honestly weren't that fucking fantastic to begin with too.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 23:07:25 No.12518791 Report

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Seriously crits deal with stall?
This can be true but if this was the only way stall could be beaten everyone would run it. And THAT would be a stale ass meta game.
Seriously there are plenty of ways to beat stall if you're team isn't terrible, or you aren't.
My point is crits are more annoying than hazards. No one can control or prepare for a crit in any way. Everyone is aware of hazards, and there are plenty of ways to deal with them an most teams should prepare for them.
Honestly neither of them should go,they're both fundamental to the game at this point.
Weather needs to be changed.
When a Pokemon enters the battlefield it should only summon the weather in the same way as if the respective weather move were used.
At least that's my opinion

Xenomorph mewtwo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2013 23:43:41 No.12519096 Report

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>>12518791
>plenty of ways to deal with entry hazards

Try two unreliable ways.

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