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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:30:21 No.12560219 View View Reply Original Report

ITT pokemon in lower tiers that function decently in OU

>dat waterfall
>dat adaptability
>dat dragon dancing

Okay so he has so trouble with scarfers, doesnt every sweeper bar a few?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:33:54 No.12560245 Report

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He can't even outspeed terrakion and latios after a boost

You should have posted an SD, or hell Sub sd set

sage

sage Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:33:56 No.12560246 Report

Quoted By: >>12560261

>>12560219
I used to think Crawdaunt could function in OU, I used it for a bit. It's unexpected anyway, I have some success with sub ddance crawdaunt, but overall It's just too frail

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:35:13 No.12560256 Report

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>>12560219
A lot of NU pokes work as niche/gimmick counters in Ubers. Scarf Primeape is still probably the best Darkrai counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:35:48 No.12560260 Report

Quoted By: >>12560270

Basically every single Pokemon if you know how to build/set them up.

I'm running an OU team right now with Drifblim, Electivire, and Ambipom.
Team Synergy is much more important than raw singular strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:35:55 No.12560261 Report

Quoted By: >>12560277

>>12560246
>make a pokemon slow AND frail, "balancing" it by increasing its special attack which still isnt usable
Fuck Gamefreak. At least give it aqua jet and sucker punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:36:42 No.12560267 Report

Quoted By: >>12560272 >>12560960

Jynx
High SpA, good Speed. Ice Beam, HP Fire, it's fun because they always underestimate me and my hoe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:36:54 No.12560270 Report

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>>12560260
Rating? Replays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:37:38 No.12560272 Report

Quoted By: >>12560598

>>12560267
>high speed
>below 100 and no speed boosting set up move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:37:59 No.12560277 Report

Quoted By: >>12560285 >>12560304 >>12560316 >>12560960

>>12560261
>adapatability would function fantastically with those two, literally better than Bullet Punch
>doesn't get them
>Blaziken gets Speed Boost
>Salamence gets Moxie
t-thanks gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:38:57 No.12560285 Report

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>>12560277
sucker punch and aqua jet alone would bump it up to UU at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:40:51 No.12560304 Report

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>>12560277
Don't forget your Multiscale Dragonite!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:41:47 No.12560316 Report

Quoted By: >>12560357 >>12560494

>>12560277
Actually its
>40 x2 STAB adaptability = 80 power aqua jet
>40 x1.5 STAB x1.5 technician = 90 power bullet punch

Sucker punch would be fuck off powerful though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:43:06 No.12560327 Report

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Cincinno is a rape train and usually OHKO or 2hko's everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:44:57 No.12560344 Report

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Cincinno is a rape train and usually OHKO or 2hko's everything
he is a amazing counter for gengar/politoed/ninetails/volcarona and slaps their shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 03:46:29 No.12560357 Report

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>>12560316
>tfw swords dance priority crawdaunt doesn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:03:21 No.12560494 Report

Quoted By: >>12560515 >>12560517

>>12560316
naw they're the same. Do some calcs and prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:04:05 No.12560500 Report

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Whimsicott because Prankster

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:06:19 No.12560515 Report

Quoted By: >>12560520

>>12560494
I just did, technician is more powerful because technician + stab = 2.25x while adaptability merely makes stab 2x

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:07:10 No.12560517 Report

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>>12560494
Forgot calcs

252Atk Adaptability Crawdaunt (Neutral) Aqua Jet vs 4HP/0Def Soundproof Abomasnow (Neutral): 16% - 19% (53 - 63 HP). Guaranteed 7HKO. Delete

252Atk Technician Crawdaunt (Neutral) Aqua Jet vs 4HP/0Def Soundproof Abomasnow (Neutral): 18% - 21% (59 - 69 HP). Guaranteed 6HKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:07:26 No.12560520 Report

Quoted By: >>12560531

>>12560515
like damage calculator calcs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:08:13 No.12560531 Report

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>>12560520
nvm lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:09:30 No.12560536 Report

Quoted By: >>12560547 >>12560548 >>12560560

Scrafty
252 Att
252 Spd
4 Hp
Jolly
Drain Punch
Dragon Dance
Ice Punch
Crunch

Swept around 10 generic OU teams with that setup

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:11:20 No.12560547 Report

Quoted By: >>12560565

>>12560536
what item were you holding?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:11:22 No.12560548 Report

Quoted By: >>12560557 >>12560565

>>12560536
your definition of generic =\= a good team

Rankings replays etc.

I'm only questioning you because I know scrafty blows

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:12:42 No.12560557 Report

Quoted By: >>12560563 >>12560583

>>12560548
>anything with Dragon Dance
>blow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:13:24 No.12560560 Report

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>>12560536
Scrafty was OU and is now comfortably high in UU, that's not really surprising

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:15:07 No.12560563 Report

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>>12560557
Tropius and whiscash would like a word

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:15:41 No.12560565 Report

Quoted By: >>12560572 >>12560629

>>12560547
Lifeorb
>>12560548
I'm currently on my mobile so I can't post replays. I have around 1450 points in OU. Generic OU team= Stealth Rock lead, Salamence, Jolteon, Scizor etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:16:52 No.12560572 Report

Quoted By: >>12560589

>>12560565
HAHAHAHAHAHAH 1450. Thanks for confirming I can ignore your opinion. Night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:18:30 No.12560583 Report

Quoted By: >>12560595

>>12560557
>altaria
>ttar
>Latios
>crawdaunt (Sowwyy op)
And many more can run DD sets that blow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:18:50 No.12560589 Report

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>>12560572
Night neckbeard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:20:19 No.12560595 Report

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>>12560583
No prob, I use Crawdaunt with parashuffle Dnite support so I guess its stretching it yo call it good. Still 1730 on the ladder ain't too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:20:40 No.12560598 Report

Quoted By: >>12560617

>>12560272
>implying he said high speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:23:57 No.12560617 Report

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>>12560598
>high SpA
>good speed
Well fuck me and fuck dyslexia

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:25:29 No.12560629 Report

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>>12560565
If you're trying to prove that a UU or lower team can work in OU you need a ranking that's better than sub-average

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:27:03 No.12560639 Report

Quoted By: >>12560665 >>12560669

I have been thinking, why is Lucario still OU.
His attack aint that hot and he needs the time to setup Sword Dance while having a shit defense.
I mean, I know his movepool is great but...

captcha: specialty madfage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:29:18 No.12560665 Report

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>>12560639
Because he's used enough to be OU. Nah sorry for the snideness I know what you mean. Lucario is pretty shitty and the only reason you'd use him is on a hyper offence team as a poor man's extreme killer arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:29:52 No.12560669 Report

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>>12560639
Electivire Syndrome

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:33:00 No.12560692 Report

Quoted By: >>12560717 >>12560731

Vanilluxe

I'm not joking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:35:34 No.12560717 Report

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>>12560692
Explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:37:38 No.12560726 Report

Quoted By: >>12560738

I'm honestly surprised Whimsicott is only RU. With it's awesome prankster hijynx, I don't understand why it isn't higher.

and special shoutout to ditto. Works great as a scarfed revenge killer. He'd work a lott better (along with trappers, who act similarly) but FUCKING TEAM PREVIEW fucked that up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:38:37 No.12560731 Report

Quoted By: >>12560742

>>12560692
Well yea, anything with STAB Ice moves and decent attacking stats is going to be at least usable in a metagame filled with dragons and Landorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:39:53 No.12560738 Report

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>>12560726
Game is better without team preview. At least regarding the gen V meta. The gen IV one would be poorer with it but in gen V its pretty important what with weather wars and zoroark

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:40:27 No.12560742 Report

Quoted By: >>12560749 >>12560769

>>12560731
He's talking about Stalluxe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:41:35 No.12560749 Report

Quoted By: >>12560761

>>12560742
does it have the bulk to pull that off though? I feel like wallrein would outclass it completely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:41:56 No.12560752 Report

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I wonder what will be Gen VI's metagame focus after Weather Wars V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:43:33 No.12560761 Report

Quoted By: >>12560769 >>12560771

>>12560749
It doesn't need bulk. Stalluxe uses a 24hp/232spA/252spe spread. The point is sub + protect let's you avoid damage. It doesn't matter how bulky you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:44:32 No.12560769 Report

Quoted By: >>12560797

>>12560742
>>12560761

The only problem with that is that you have to run Hail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:44:50 No.12560771 Report

Quoted By: >>12560780

>>12560761
Well you have to get it in there, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:46:04 No.12560780 Report

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>>12560771
That is indeed true, however there are plenty of opportunities like an enemy hazard layer setting up stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:46:12 No.12560782 Report

Quoted By: >>12560798 >>12560808 >>12560873 >>12560960

Cradily with storm drain and giga drain
Spinda with contrary and superpower
Ditto with jolly and imposter
Sableye with prankster, swagger and foul play
Drapion with toxic spikes cross poison and fire fang
Pinsir with quick claw and moxie
Granbull with maxed attack and return
Marowak with bonemerang and thick bone
Seaking with lightning rod/ azumarill with sap sipper

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:47:40 No.12560797 Report

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>>12560769
Hail is an underrated and entirely usable team archetype, being one of the most powerful forms of stall as well. Hell you can pull it off in ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:47:50 No.12560798 Report

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>>12560782
>Ditto with jolly
Do you not know how transform works

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 04:48:40 No.12560808 Report

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>>12560782
>max attack return granbull
>thick club marowak
Have you played this game before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 05:00:43 No.12560873 Report

Quoted By: >>12560878

>>12560782
>Ditto's nature mattering
>Cross Poison
>Quick Claw
>Granbull
>Azumarill without Huge Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 05:01:43 No.12560878 Report

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>>12560873
>inb4 youve been deceived by le master ruseman

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 05:14:06 No.12560960 Report

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>>12560267
energy ball on this mother fucker man

>>12560277
this this this come on john gamefreak

>>12560782
:/

some of them aren't that dumb but come on man

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 06:36:39 No.12561728 Report

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This badass right here. It takes hits like an absolute tank, and with Calm Mind + Scald it can shut down just about any sort of attacker. Bulkiest Water type imo. (bar Kyogre)

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