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>>12568484
Because it's yet another overused dragon specialist and I would have preferred to see Cheren, the B/W protagonist, Benga, Marshall, or some other new character than sticking Iris in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:16:28 No.12568564 Report

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I agree OP
I really like Alder too

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:18:25 No.12568591 Report

Quoted By: >>12571241

>>12568558
>Cheren
>who has a Haxorus with Surf

At least Iris had the common sense to teach hers physical moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:54:04 No.12569205 Report

Quoted By: >>12569278 >>12571333

>>12568558
Oh no she used 3 unique dragon types. Lance and his 3 dragonites were any better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:58:09 No.12569265 Report

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>>12568558
Eh, she's as much of a "Dragon Specialist" as Lance was, which is alright in my book. She only used Dragon-like pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:59:06 No.12569278 Report

Quoted By: >>12571142

>>12569205
Dragonite's line were the only actual dragon type pokemon in the game... It would of been impossible for him to use any other dragon types besides the prevos which just wouldn't of been practical. That's why the others at least reaembled dragons.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 23:10:01 No.12569492 Report

Quoted By: >>12571220 >>12594146

>>12568142
I'm too lazy to transfer all of my Pokemon to Black 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 00:55:57 No.12571142 Report

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>>12569278
I took more issue with the fact that he rated her almost as bad as Wallace because she's a dragon specialist, even though Lance is and even worse dragon specialist.

In my opinion, having the champion use mostly dragon types in the first place isn't necessarily bad, considering Dragons are pretty much the best type in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 00:59:16 No.12571220 Report

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>>12569492
>I'm doing that now
>It's pretty damn horrible, but at least IR makes it a bit faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:00:29 No.12571241 Report

Quoted By: >>12571286

>>12568591
And give it DD, and give it a focus sash.

Absolutely terrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:03:21 No.12571286 Report

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>>12571241
Also Earthquake. Having Magnezone and Chandelure in my party was suffering, and it fucked my Flygon thanks to Mold Breaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:06:40 No.12571322 Report

Quoted By: >>12584685

I hate all dragon-type 8th gym leaders, E4 members, and champions (especially that faggot lance.) LEL, DRAGONS IS TEH POWERFULEST.
Iris isn't as bad as the "I'm a brooding and edgy dragon master" characters, but still. It's just so fucking played out by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:07:55 No.12571333 Report

Quoted By: >>12583769

>>12569205
Because at least Lance 100% made sense as a champion after Kanto. And Dragon wasn't overused at the time.

>>12569265
It's still overused and most of her Pokemon can be taken out with one type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:12:27 No.12571394 Report

Quoted By: >>12571432 >>12571523

>>12568091
I hate Iris as a character. She is obnoxious in Black 1 and totally unhelpful the whole time she was around. She also had no real reason for existing in Black 1 so I was like PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I played White 2 because fuck Zekrom but I still didn't feel that it was explained at all. It was just like, oh yeah I am the champion now and that old guy(who I imagine was either not in or useless in White 1) is the Gym leader now because WYNAUT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:16:15 No.12571432 Report

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>>12571394
She became champion because Alder was retiring and needed a replacement, since Cheren had given up on being the best trainer and Hilbert/Hilda were gone for who knows what reason. Iris kicked his ass in battle to prove she was worthy and boom, champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:18:15 No.12571451 Report

Quoted By: >>12571474 >>12571479 >>12571522

Gen 4's champion is a woman. Gen 5's champion is a minority.

itshappening.jpg

Calling it now, Gen 6's champion will be a french fag. Literally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:20:38 No.12571474 Report

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>>12571451
No, he is going to be canadian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:21:11 No.12571479 Report

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>>12571451
wallace?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:24:49 No.12571522 Report

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>>12571451
Gen I: a douchebag
Gen II: a dragon fetisher
Gen III: a richie and a faggot
Gen IV: a hottie
Gen V: a native and a black loli

Gen IV is best Gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:24:59 No.12571523 Report

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>>12571394
Iris was a fucking prodigy, though. Being a Dragon Master at age 10 isn't something anyone can do. There's a reason Drayden picked her up from the Village of Dragons...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:29:46 No.12571586 Report

Quoted By: >>12571600 >>12576449

>>12571522
Cynthia is the mary sue to end all mary sues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:30:55 No.12571600 Report

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>>12571586
Agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:42:54 No.12571748 Report

Quoted By: >>12574270

>>12568091
I hated her battle theme before but now it's kind of grown on me.
Still hate her fucking Haxorus, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 06:21:51 No.12574270 Report

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>>12571748
I didn't like it at first either, but frankly, something upbeat is a nice change of pace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 07:28:59 No.12574613 Report

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Cynthia > Steven > Iris >Blue > Lance > Alder > Wallace

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:42:22 No.12576437 Report

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Cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:43:04 No.12576444 Report

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Wow, I like blue!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:44:23 No.12576449 Report

Quoted By: >>12583876 >>12586539

>>12571586
In Pokemon maybe
I'd like to argure the most gratuitous mary sue in gaming is Thrall and/or Jaina of Warcraft. But that's a discussion for /v/

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 23:55:35 No.12583417 Report

Quoted By: >>12583782 >>12583807 >>12584016 >>12594281

>tfw you're the only one who likes Alder best

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:28:57 No.12583769 Report

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>>12571333
>Because at least Lance 100% made sense as a champion after Kanto. And Dragon wasn't overused at the time.

H-How..? W-What..?

How did she not make sense? She did exactly what Wallace did... Alder and Iris, I'm going to assume that they get along like Wallace and Steven did, and Iris was definitely powerful enough, let alone after two years of training, to succeed the older champion. Like the game says itself, Alder is getting old, and it implies that Hilbert/Hilda were off searching for N. Give a kid like Iris two years to train, and a reason TO train, and a friend perhaps helping her, Alder, and bam. You've got an Elite Four topping synth rock dragon using princess in space.

>tl;dr Iris could have done it.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:29:58 No.12583782 Report

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>>12583417
>tfw you're the only one who likes Wallace at all

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:31:12 No.12583807 Report

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>>12583417
>tfw you're the only one who likes Wallace at all

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:31:30 No.12583813 Report

Quoted By: >>12583847 >>12583917

I feel like GF really dropped the ball when it comes to who they could have gone with. Plus, a Fighting Champion could have been interesting, and a good way to show how far the type has come. Hell, Make Marshal Champ, have Iris run the Opelucid gym (Which is why Drayden adopted her prior to the BW2 retcon) and have Drayden be the new E4 member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:31:53 No.12583819 Report

Quoted By: >>12583827 >>12584016

Wallace is my favourite champion
;_;

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:32:20 No.12583827 Report

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>>12583819
Mahnigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:33:50 No.12583847 Report

Quoted By: >>12583857

>>12583813
>a good way to show how far the type has come.

A good way to show how obnoxiously overpowered it's become, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:34:47 No.12583857 Report

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>>12583847
Then there ya go. It would work just as well as Dragons, who are intentionally overpowered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:36:33 No.12583872 Report

Quoted By: >>12583885 >>12583905 >>12586284

>tfw BW2 ruined the tradition of having Dragon type trainers be the final member of a certain faction. Whether it be gym leaders, E4 members, or Da Champ

Fucking Marlon

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:36:48 No.12583876 Report

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>>12576449
I'd like to argue that it's Medan, also from Warcraft, but agree that this is not the board for it.

Posting a dragon since I've got nothing else to contribute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:37:36 No.12583885 Report

Quoted By: >>12584378

>>12583872
>tradition

what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:38:37 No.12583891 Report

Quoted By: >>12583916

I can't hate Champion Iris, her theme is too jammin

Cynthia and Steven are still my favourite champions though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:39:33 No.12583905 Report

Quoted By: >>12584355

>>12583872
But a dragon type trainer was Da Champ.

Or am I cannot into reading comprehension?

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:40:23 No.12583911 Report

Quoted By: >>12583931 >>12583945 >>12583975 >>12583998

In all honesty, I'd rather see Bug as a champion in this region instead of MOAR DRAGONZ. Seriously, Unova introduced great Bug types all usable in-game. But, only 3 Dragon types and we have to get a last gym Dragon type again while Bug was third. Seriously, I'm not impressed at all. One Dragon champion was enough, now we have another. Nothing special at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:40:44 No.12583914 Report

Quoted By: >>12583923

>no rival since gen I has been the champ
Gamefreak really dropped the ball

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:40:49 No.12583916 Report

Quoted By: >>12583998

>>12583891
>liking third gen

I like you.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:40:57 No.12583917 Report

Quoted By: >>12583928

>>12583813
I'd have gone with pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:41:40 No.12583923 Report

Quoted By: >>12583944

>>12583914
They can't rehash everything at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:42:01 No.12583928 Report

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>>12583917
But if they did that, /vp/ would cry out "WTF GAMEFREAK IT'S JUST HIS GRANDSON WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN SOMEONE LIKE IRIS OR CHEREN NO ORIGINALITY HIS SON BAH FUCK SO FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU EVEN TRYING HIRE ME GAMEFREAK!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:42:09 No.12583931 Report

Quoted By: >>12583958

>>12583911
At least the bug gym in BW2 was the best gym. BW1's was pretty fun too.

Seriously, that place was fucking fabulous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:42:55 No.12583944 Report

Quoted By: >>12583966

>>12583923
Well Blue was THE best champion. you'd think after five gens they'd have tried to replicate what made him the best at least once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:43:01 No.12583945 Report

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>>12583911
You'll get fairy and you'll fucking like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:43:58 No.12583958 Report

Quoted By: >>12583966 >>12586539

>>12583931
>not liking elesa's runway
dat anticipation
dat entrance
dat sexual attraction

>>12583931
OH BOY HOLD ON TIGHT FOLKS IT'S HAPPENING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:44:47 No.12583966 Report

Quoted By: >>12583994

>>12583958
Oi, my hand was on my dick, second quote was supposed to go to >>12583944
I'm sorry

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:45:14 No.12583975 Report

Quoted By: >>12584012 >>12584024 >>12594190

>>12583911
If you consider Iris as a Dragon champion,Alder is a Bug champion.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:46:00 No.12583983 Report

Quoted By: >>12584175 >>12594310

So what does everyone think the Kalos champ will be like?

I bet his team is a hyper annoying stall team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:46:37 No.12583994 Report

Quoted By: >>12584143

>>12583966
>holding anything from gen 1 in high regard makes you a nostalgia faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:46:48 No.12583998 Report

Quoted By: >>12584062

>>12583916
I think it had the best locales/world design of all the gens, and I actually like most of the 3rd Gen Pokemon.

>>12583911
Gen 5 was great to the Bug type, I'm kinda surprised there didn't end up being a Bug Elite 4 member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:48:03 No.12584012 Report

Quoted By: >>12584035

>>12583975
>Champion of the region
>uses the ice cream pokemon
goddamnit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:48:14 No.12584016 Report

Quoted By: >>12584022

>>12583417
>>12583807
>>12583819

What is it about Alder and Wallace that people don't like? Is it because Steven and Cynthia were tough acts to follow? And because both of their teams were pretty lame? Though Alder's PWT team is pretty damn good. I guess GF knew they fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:48:56 No.12584022 Report

Quoted By: >>12584027 >>12584049

>>12584016
>Is it because Steven and Cynthia were tough acts to follow?
Cynthia wasn't even that great. People just wanted to put her dick in her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:49:04 No.12584024 Report

Quoted By: >>12584075 >>12584100 >>12584111

>>12583975
All of Iris' pokes are Dragon-like in appearance, atleast to some extent. What is Alder's "theme"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:49:30 No.12584027 Report

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>>12584022
their dick in her*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:49:51 No.12584035 Report

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>>12584012
Even though most good Unova Pokemon had already been 'taken' per say by other trainers, I'm still mystified as to why he didn't get Gigalith or Braviary, who are way better than Druddigon and Vanilluxe. Hell, Gamefreak even replaced them in BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:50:53 No.12584049 Report

Quoted By: >>12584080 >>12584105 >>12586193

>>12584022
No, she was the most important/relevant champ to date. On top of that she was part of the most unique E4 and is easily the most challenging of them.

That definitely puts her above the others, not that they're much competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:51:15 No.12584062 Report

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>>12583998
I like you even more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:51:18 No.12584065 Report

Quoted By: >>12584096

I liked Wallace a lot. when you see him In Emerald and he takes you to the Sky Pillar I at least felt fairly intimidated by him, like he knows something I don't.

I don't know where everyone gets the whole gay thing from either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:51:54 No.12584075 Report

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>>12584024
>Aggron
>Archeops
>Lapras
>Dragon like in appearance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:52:18 No.12584080 Report

Quoted By: >>12584155

>>12584049
>No, she was the most important/relevant champ to date.

I think Steven was more important.

plus you could sweep her entire team with Weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:53:07 No.12584096 Report

Quoted By: >>12584148

>>12584065
He's not gay, he's beautiful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:53:14 No.12584100 Report

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>>12584024
>Lapras
>dragon-like in appearance

So arguing semantics now are we. She could've easily had an Altaria on her team as well you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:53:27 No.12584105 Report

Quoted By: >>12584133 >>12584137

>>12584049
>important/relevant
Gonna have to disagree with you there. All she did was send you on errands and watch you do things. Lance did a bunch more in Gen II. She was the most difficult, though that's not saying much for Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:53:58 No.12584111 Report

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>>12584024
Bugs. Half his team is bugs just like half of Iris' team is Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:54:49 No.12584126 Report

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Kalos region champ will be your father.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:55:14 No.12584133 Report

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>>12584105
Plus her team while not as dumb as ALLL DAGRONS BECAUSE MUH OVERPOWERED was still just the pseudo, and incredibly hard to obtain no weaknesses pokemon, Lucario who also has special circumstances for obtaining, and three filler pokemon

Steven had the best team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:55:23 No.12584137 Report

Quoted By: >>12584168

>>12584105
Yes "all she did".

Gotta love how reductive the language is when you talk about things you don't like. You could remove the other champs from their games and do little damage to the game or its narrative. Not so with Cynthia.

By default she is the most relevant. Your opinion doesn't factor in her.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:55:37 No.12584143 Report

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>>12583994
>mfw he never said genwunner
>mfw you're so paranoid about people disagreeing with you that you insist they're calling you out on everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:55:53 No.12584148 Report

Quoted By: >>12584164

>>12584096
Same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:56:26 No.12584155 Report

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>>12584080
I can sweep every champ's team.
Choose another metric to inflate Steven, sir.

He was embarrassing, a prototype at a non-worthless champ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:56:30 No.12584157 Report

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>>12568558
>Champion Bianca

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:56:59 No.12584164 Report

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>>12584148
/pol/ is that way, friend!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:57:09 No.12584168 Report

Quoted By: >>12584208 >>12584223

>>12584137
What does she do? she sends you to get mystery potion to clear some psyduck and talks to you about legends once or twice

Wallace takes you to the Sky Pillar and helps you save the world. Blue is your fucking rival and has the most significant battle of all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:57:46 No.12584175 Report

Quoted By: >>12584199

>>12583983
Crossing my fingers for Trick Room team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:58:41 No.12584188 Report

Quoted By: >>12584211 >>12584259

In general the later generations have the advantage here.

Their games increased the amount of screentime, characterization, and importance of the champions, etc... Which is why weak attempts at infusing this into older titles (like in HGSS) fall flat. The games simply weren't designed with that in mind in the first place.

They took two steps back with Iris, though. She was completely irrelevant and was only there for shock value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:58:54 No.12584195 Report

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Steven and Cynthia are pretty similar, honestly. Strong trainers that you keep bumping into, they end up helping you in the main plot. Personally I prefer Steven but only because Steel types are just inherantly cool. That's a very small reason to prefer him over her though, I acknowledge that.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:59:02 No.12584199 Report

Quoted By: >>12584410

>>12584175
>e4 is based on the four weathers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:59:46 No.12584208 Report

Quoted By: >>12584237 >>12584242

>>12584168
Blue is a fag that rocks an Exeggutor with no moves and the shittiest team of ALL champions.

You remember him fondly because you shit your drawers when he was revealed to be the champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 00:59:57 No.12584211 Report

Quoted By: >>12584241

>>12584188
>Their games increased the amount of screentime, characterization, and importance of the champions
>implying Blue didn't get the absolute most
>implying you didn't have the most motivation to beat Blue out of all the champions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:00:19 No.12584223 Report

Quoted By: >>12584245 >>12584281

>>12584168
Cynthia helps you save the world. Did you ever play DPPt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:01:10 No.12584237 Report

Quoted By: >>12593083 >>12593121

>>12584208
>Blue
>always a step ahead of you
>always trashing you
>steals the title right under your nose
>you send him home crying
It was the sweetest victory the series has offered

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:01:28 No.12584241 Report

Quoted By: >>12584265

>>12584211
Blue was your rival.

He had 2 seconds of screentime as champion.

His personality begins and ends at "Obnoxious Faggot".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:01:29 No.12584242 Report

Quoted By: >>12584290

>>12584208
nostalgia aside, the theme of him always being one step ahead of you and the main game effectively ending once you finally surpass him was actually good and as a concept still holds up well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:01:43 No.12584245 Report

Quoted By: >>12584269 >>12584312

>>12584223
Probably only played DP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:02:18 No.12584252 Report

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Cynthia, by far.

She's basically what I've always imagined champs to be: Classy, worldly, and skilled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:02:46 No.12584259 Report

Quoted By: >>12584293

>>12584188
>She was completely irrelevant and was only there for shock value.
Which was stupid, since it was obvious when she wasn't shown with the rest of the gym leaders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:03:10 No.12584265 Report

Quoted By: >>12584297 >>12584314

>>12584241
>He had 2 seconds of screentime as champion.
it doesn't work that way. All of his previous development added to his appearance as champion. It's a battle of equals where you finally overcome your greatest opponent and receive the highest title in the league

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:03:15 No.12584269 Report

Quoted By: >>12584312

>>12584245
It wouldn't surprise me. Most of /vp/ only cites things from DP, but demands to be taken seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:03:38 No.12584281 Report

Quoted By: >>12584320 >>12584337

>>12584223
She sits on the sidelines while you storm Team Galactic's base, enter the distortion world, free the Lake Trio, beat Cyrus, and capture Giratina. I wouldn't call that helping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:04:12 No.12584290 Report

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>>12584242
>the theme of him always being one step ahead of you
>one step ahead of you

Because you totally don't completely trounce him whenever he shows up to battle you right? That's not one step ahead to me. The only thing he did that was "a step ahead" was choose a starter that mine is weak to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:04:23 No.12584293 Report

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>>12584259
Neither were Lenora and the Striaton Trio. She was also only a gym leader in one game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:04:38 No.12584297 Report

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>>12584265
>finally overcome
You spend the whole game kicking his ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:05:21 No.12584312 Report

Quoted By: >>12584320

>>12584245
>>12584269
not him but I haven't played Pt either, what does Cynthia do in it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:05:35 No.12584314 Report

Quoted By: >>12584351

>>12584265
That's not how it works.

He does not hold the title of champion until the very tail end of the game in one room.

We're talking about people's screentime as champ. You're trying to gerrymander your way to victory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:05:50 No.12584320 Report

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>>12584312

>>12584281

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:07:03 No.12584337 Report

Quoted By: >>12584371

>>12584281
Stop talking, it's painfully obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

I really don't understand why people speak out of ignorance like this. You're the kind of moron who thinks people have to throw punches to help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:07:26 No.12584345 Report

Quoted By: >>12584360 >>12584375

I want to like Steven but his music is so dull compared to every other champ's theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:07:50 No.12584351 Report

Quoted By: >>12584428

>>12584314
>oh he wasn't champ til the end so it doesn't count
All of the previous encounters add to it. You find out the champion title was stolen from you by that faggot, you kick his ass and take it back. He has a small amount of screentime AS champ, but it's infinitely more powerful and meaningful than all the others'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:08:14 No.12584355 Report

Quoted By:

>>12583905
Drayden was leader 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:08:32 No.12584360 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584345
I thought he had the best theme. It actually feels like fanfare, like a championship, rather than some ominous end of the world faggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:08:41 No.12584363 Report

Quoted By: >>12584384 >>12584425 >>12584485

Cynthia>Steven>Alder>Lance>Blue>Iris>Wallace

Hopefully GF gives a Cynthia-tier champion rather than something like Iris or Alder. The latter was a MASSIVE waste of potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:09:10 No.12584371 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584337
>You're the kind of moron who thinks people have to throw punches to help.
She does nothing. She's a bystander. Nothing contributed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:09:31 No.12584375 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584345
That's one of my problems with Steven. He was incredibly... blah. And that music didn't help. Least memorable champion battle for sure.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:09:49 No.12584378 Report

Quoted By:

>>12583885

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:10:24 No.12584384 Report

Quoted By: >>12584442

>>12584363
An older male champion concept was great, but yeah, they shit on themselves. At least he had a life outside of the league like Cynthia.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:11:51 No.12584410 Report

Quoted By: >>12587684

>>12584199
they're named Mistral, Khamsin, Monsoon and Sundowner

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:12:20 No.12584425 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584363
No kidding. I was pretty excited that it seemed like we were going to get a more human Champion, but GF just royally screwed it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:12:24 No.12584428 Report

Quoted By: >>12584483

>>12584351
It's not infinitely more powerful than anything because he's the most incompetent champion by any objective measure.

He had the least screentime of any champion.

He was not important to the plot (because there wasn't any plot)

He did not have a team fitting a champion.

Lance is where Game Freak understood that Champions much project a certain image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:13:23 No.12584442 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584384
She kinda did. She visited her grandma and sister, as well as having an interest in archeology and myths.

Still don't like her much though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:16:00 No.12584483 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584428
(different anon) I think the Gen I league was more reflective of the anime's perception of the league. Blue was a fellow trainer who made it as far as you and competed against you rather than some sort of celebrity or guardian or something.

What I think made Blue special was the sort of meta impression he gave. His team is shit, but he has an alakazam that stomps your shit and a way over leveled starter. It's sort of reflective of how a child plays the actual game pokemon for the first time.

Blue was great in his own way, and isn't really comparable to any of the others because the concept and standards of champ have shifted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:16:12 No.12584485 Report

Quoted By: >>12584540 >>12584955 >>12585009

>>12584363
Alder was awesome until we actually battled him. Way too easy.

Jesus Christ, give us a challenge mode right at the start of the game PLEASE.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:20:02 No.12584534 Report

Quoted By: >>12584560 >>12584612 >>12584632 >>12584697 >>12584726 >>12587349 >>12592501

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:20:37 No.12584540 Report

Quoted By: >>12584557

>>12584485
Like someone in this thread earlier said, I think GF knew they fucked up, as they removed the weaker links from his team in BW2. And his PWT team may be the best in the Champion tournament.

But yeah, such a disappointing finale, with the way you can only battle him as the 'true last opponent' so to speak. I think he'd be much more popular if they didn't give him such a lame team. It's like GF forgot he was in the game, and just threw six random Pokemon on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:21:40 No.12584557 Report

Quoted By: >>12584629

>>12584540
They gave too many people too many "exclusive" pokemon and gave him the scraps left over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:21:48 No.12584560 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584534
>stylish trench coat
we /v/ fashion guide now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:24:08 No.12584612 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584534
has the person who wrote this never seen someone in a fancy dress before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:25:20 No.12584629 Report

Quoted By: >>12584649

>>12584557
I did a quick check on the Unova dex, and these are what he could have had that have "Champion worthy" stat totals that weren't used by someone else that he doesn't already have:

Gigalith
Darmanitan
Ferrothorn
Braviary

So yeah, not much to choose from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:25:38 No.12584632 Report

Quoted By: >>12587486

>>12584534
>Wallace only has like three points about him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:26:13 No.12584649 Report

Quoted By: >>12584723

>>12584629
But all three of those (save Ferrothorn) fit him to a T

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:27:35 No.12584674 Report

Quoted By: >>12584692 >>12584700 >>12584758 >>12584823 >>12585301

So what does everyone want out of the new champ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:27:53 No.12584685 Report

Quoted By:

>>12571322
Its because Dragon tends to be the strongest type. Wallace was a water champion and he can be completely destroyed

Its why I like Cynthia's team best, she cant just be owned by one pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:28:24 No.12584692 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584674
her dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:28:41 No.12584697 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584534
>Wild hair, because he doesn't have time to use a comb because he's too busy beating Red into the ground

>Implying he ever won any of those battles.

I mean, his first act as champion was losing his title as champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:28:50 No.12584700 Report

Quoted By: >>12584735

>>12584674
champ ends up being the character's mother

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:29:42 No.12584723 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584649
Which makes me wonder why they didn't use Gigalith or Braviary. I can understand Darmanitan because he's already got Volcarona, but still. The only reason I can think of why no Braviary is because Cynthia had one in BW (For some reason). Gigalith has no excuse. He does get a Braviary in BW2 though, which fits him perfectly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:29:53 No.12584726 Report

Quoted By: >>12584761 >>12584799

>>12584534
this version of the chart is kind of lame because it's generally positive or at least playfully teasing of all the champions, but it's outright negative of Iris. It's like whoever added her didn't understand the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:30:23 No.12584735 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584700
Either that, the Player's father, or the guy in front of every gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:31:27 No.12584758 Report

Quoted By: >>12584800 >>12584802

>>12584674
>is your rival for dat motivation and competition
>releases his starter half way through because he thinks it sucks
>replaces it with the pseudo
>his team uses a suicide hazard lead because fuck pokemon are expendable
>uses weather because fuck you
So...Paul I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:31:36 No.12584761 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584726
I was actually hoping someone would post the other versions, this is the only one I have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:34:57 No.12584799 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584726
>It's like whoever added her didn't understand the point.

Considering the buttfrustration over a glamorous dress being more showy than practical, yeah, they missed the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:35:04 No.12584800 Report

Quoted By: >>12584810

>>12584758
Paul never released his starter. Turtwig was his starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:35:16 No.12584802 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584758
you forgot
>is a cunt who's pokemon and movesets differ in order to better beat yours
>uses tactics like toxic spikes + leech seed for maximum anal pain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:35:52 No.12584810 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584800
Still you get the point

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:36:38 No.12584823 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584674
Big dick OG who appears out of nowhere near the end of the "defeat team x" story and wipes them all out for you, entire team is made up of legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:39:16 No.12584862 Report

Quoted By:

To be honest, out of all the champions I think Alder's the most realistic one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:46:12 No.12584955 Report

Quoted By: >>12585009

>>12584485
Completely agree. I thought he was going to be the best champion just because of how much they built him up. Then when I fought him I left so disappointed. Not one of his Pokemon beat mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:49:12 No.12585009 Report

Quoted By: >>12585049 >>12585232

>>12584485
>>12584955
So who had more wasted potential? Him or Colress?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:51:15 No.12585049 Report

Quoted By: >>12585094 >>12588102

>>12585009
Say what you will, but Colress' theme...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:53:37 No.12585094 Report

Quoted By: >>12585137

>>12585049
5...

4...

3...

2...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:55:36 No.12585137 Report

Quoted By:

>>12585094
"Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:01:02 No.12585232 Report

Quoted By: >>12585263 >>12585309

>>12585009
I could tell they wrote Colress as lazy as possible, so they wouldn't have to go into anything with him but the bare minimum. When he pulls the "I'll just go with whichever way works best" bullshit at the end I was so mad, because that whole game let me down. Ghetsis and N were entirely underwhelming, so I hoped Colress would prove a worthy final boss, but no. He just left in a total cop out move. Black/White 2 have to be the worst games story-wise, because Black/White had such a good one, and to follow it up with that was just tragic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:02:17 No.12585263 Report

Quoted By:

>>12585232
He'll make it up by being the professor in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:04:13 No.12585301 Report

Quoted By: >>12585327

>>12584674
>The champion is smogon.
>Super meta rain team with perfect ivs.
Or
>Only uses legendaries and stalls you with toxic damage and evasion abuse with plenty of full-restores.
The but pain would be delishes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:04:22 No.12585309 Report

Quoted By: >>12585340

>>12585232
Every returning character in BW2 felt underwhelming. Iris and Ghetsis are the worst offenders. They leave no impression at all, and you sort of forget they're in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:05:40 No.12585327 Report

Quoted By:

>>12585301
>the champion is smogon
I would like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:06:22 No.12585340 Report

Quoted By: >>12585382 >>12585389 >>12585752

>>12585309
Not for me. Ghetsis is the ONLY one in the game I got COMPLETELY stuck on.

Over.

and Over.

and Over.

and Over.

Then my Serperior, his Hydreigon. He uses Frustration, I'm left at one HP... I use return...

I won.

Power of friendship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:08:38 No.12585382 Report

Quoted By: >>12585417

>>12585340
>Using Serperior

Well now we know why it took you so long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:09:19 No.12585389 Report

Quoted By:

>>12585340
I was so disappointed they nerfed his Hydreigon so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:10:54 No.12585417 Report

Quoted By:

>>12585382
I bet you like Charizard AND Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:14:03 No.12585454 Report

Quoted By:

>>12568091
she wasnt my champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:31:22 No.12585752 Report

Quoted By: >>12585855

>>12585340
I thought Cheren was cool, you could tell he matured a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:40:27 No.12585855 Report

Quoted By:

>>12585752
Yea. Also, the picture of the sweating, excited man people overpost, there needs to be one of Cheren. Just look at his damn Gym Battle sprite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:54:11 No.12586021 Report

Quoted By: >>12586070

>>12568464
>Wallace
>Not Cynthia

My Shirona will fuck you up.

captcha: gives poneyns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:58:34 No.12586070 Report

Quoted By:

>>12586021
That reminds me, has there been anything new from Queen Cynthia recently? He was always a great source of amusement.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:01:12 No.12586104 Report

Quoted By:

>>12568091
I didn't vote for her!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:07:22 No.12586193 Report

Quoted By: >>12586224

>>12584049
This.
>Dat Shitennou
I mean, really, the entire team was made up of the classiest, most professional motherfuckers this side of RBY. No gimmicks, no hula girls, no ninjas, no giant frilly goth collars, just serious trainers there to actually do their job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:09:05 No.12586224 Report

Quoted By: >>12586420

>>12586193
I felt that made them somewhat boring though. Aside from Flint, none of them really got a whole lot of personality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:12:33 No.12586284 Report

Quoted By: >>12586302 >>12587074

>>12583872
That belongs to Gen 4.
>Electric Gym
>Psychic? Elite 4 I can't remember what it was correctly but it wasn't dragon
>Cynthia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:13:25 No.12586302 Report

Quoted By:

>>12586284
It was Psychic. That guy's fucking Bronzong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:20:26 No.12586420 Report

Quoted By: >>12586444 >>12586488

>>12586224
I really don't see it as "boring." They're the top trainers in the country. They're not supposed to spend time on costumes and things like that; they're supposed to be training their Pokemon and carrying out whatever professional duties Elite 4 members have. So, when they all have a dress code, when all their pre-match speeches are measured and amicable, a chill runs down my spine: these people are not here to play. It is literally their job to beat you, and they are very good at their job.

I find all that more compelling than what we got in all of the other gens except I (which was essentially a businesswoman, a pro fighter, a retired high-level trainer, and a guy who bends dragons to his will). Plus, it had good music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:21:57 No.12586444 Report

Quoted By: >>12588083

>>12586420
I can see where you're coming from, but in a cartoony franchise like Pokemon, I feel like quirks and such can be a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:24:11 No.12586488 Report

Quoted By:

>>12586420
> It is literally their job to beat you, and they are very good at their job.

I always hated this. The E4 is a stupid concept. the pokemon league should be like a sporting event or a festival. a tournament between a bunch of ten year olds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 03:26:18 No.12586539 Report

Quoted By:

>>12576449
>Hating on Thrall
You have bad taste
>>12583958
The Runway was pretty cool but I prefer the rollercoaster gym in BW1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:05:24 No.12587074 Report

Quoted By:

>>12586284
Yeah, but there was no Dragon trainer whatsoever. So it doesn't really break Tevye's heart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:15:51 No.12587252 Report

Quoted By:

I have to admit that her team is pretty nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:22:20 No.12587349 Report

Quoted By: >>12587612

>>12584534
>Only bad points on Iris
This guide is complete and utter shi-
>"Pants that have ripped due to how much traveling he does, yet still remain perfectly white, thus showing his commitment to supporting local small laundromats.
Heh... that's funny...
>"High heels and yet she can run normally - just like Batgirl"
If it wasn't for the Iris dissing part, this would be THE GREATEST GUIDE EVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:33:49 No.12587486 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584632

That's two more than he deserves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:43:13 No.12587612 Report

Quoted By: >>12587647

>>12587349
I agree. I love Alder decription.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:45:50 No.12587647 Report

Quoted By:

>>12587612
I can totally see Alder as a guy who stops into local laundromats, and makes small talk with other patrons while his pants are in the wash.

And I can also see him standing around in laundromat wearing nothing but a towel, his iron body on total display.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 04:48:32 No.12587684 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584410
new gorilla pokemon
they all have it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 05:28:16 No.12588083 Report

Quoted By:

>>12586444
I guess. I just always liked the serious, even adult undercurrent that's flowed throughout the series. They're unabashedly kid's games, but there are more than a few hints that they take place in a very adult world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 05:31:42 No.12588102 Report

Quoted By: >>12588401 >>12592392

>>12585049
So much this. Alder's theme was exactly like his team. A total letdown and unworthy of a champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 06:27:48 No.12588401 Report

Quoted By:

>>12588102
I actually liked it. Triumphant and big, but in a more lighthearted way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 18:56:19 No.12592392 Report

Quoted By:

>>12588102
I felt like Alder's theme fit the Subway Bosses a lot more than him. A remix of Alder's encounter theme would have been cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dsL0BZ_VNk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 19:09:58 No.12592497 Report

Quoted By:

>>12568091
she is not brown rly, it's just a japanese stereotype, like brock

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 19:10:22 No.12592501 Report

Quoted By: >>12593202 >>12593237 >>12594071

>>12584534

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:04:33 No.12593083 Report

Quoted By:

>>12584237
>Blue trashing you
>Blue winning anything at all
Nostalgiafag pls go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:08:39 No.12593121 Report

Quoted By: >>12593287

>>12584237
>blue thrashing you
How can anyone be this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:10:36 No.12593148 Report

Quoted By:

Lance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:15:12 No.12593202 Report

Quoted By:

>>12592501
>My sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:18:52 No.12593237 Report

Quoted By: >>12593269 >>12593300

>>12592501
Fashion wise I'd say Blue (That fanny pack is a problem though and he'd do well to get different shoes), Iris (Fuck I want that dress, Vanelope in Wreck it Ralph had it as well), Wallace looks fucking great as well, Alder and Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:22:46 No.12593265 Report

Quoted By:

If there was a reason for me to hate a champion, it was Iris. Because her team reminded me too much of pokemon online and showdown. Too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:23:12 No.12593269 Report

Quoted By:

>>12593237
Are the best dressed I meant to say. Seriously fuck everyone else in that image, especially Steven.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:25:19 No.12593287 Report

Quoted By:

>>12593121
I know, it'd be almost as shit as your reading comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 20:26:47 No.12593300 Report

Quoted By:

>>12593237
Actually fuck what I said about Blue, I thought the cargo trousers were endearing at first but looking at them now they look fucking horrible.
And that fucking polo shirt can go to hell.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:01:03 No.12593585 Report

Quoted By: >>12593713 >>12593803 >>12593883 >>12593940

I will never understand how somebody can like Cinthia. She's bland fanservice with no charisma, she's in OC donut steel character. The game forces her into you all the time, but everything she does looks like game freak is screaming "LOOK THIS CHARACTER IS IMPORTANT. LIKE HIM" at me.

For me, Lance will always be the best. His design is fucking awesome. He looks legendary, the cape, the boots, the flaming hair and THE MOTHERFUCKING MUSIC. I was using headphones my first time playing HeartGold and when I heard that theme... jesus christ. It felt like a champion, a true one.

Alder had so much potential, all wasted. He still a good design and character anyway.

Iris was complete random. It was so obvious that gamefreak put her as champion just to please the fanbase and try to grow her popularity. First time I fought her I just turned off my DS because I couldn't stand something so ridiculous.

"Weak" women and children don't make good champions. If GF wants that hard to put women as champion, at least put a strong and fierce one like Clair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:14:00 No.12593713 Report

Quoted By: >>12593815

>>12593585
>"Weak" women
Cynthia was interested in mythology and ruins and actively travelled around the world researching them. She is far from weak and much better than Clair 'boo-hoo I lost but im not giving you this badge until my (male) elders basically forced me to!!'

>Children
You become the champion at the end of the game. You are a child/teenager.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:21:21 No.12593803 Report

Quoted By:

>>12593585
>Someone like Clair
>Making a good champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:22:22 No.12593815 Report

Quoted By: >>12593868 >>12594035 >>12594123

>>12593713
>Clair 'boo-hoo I lost but im not giving you this badge until my (male) elders basically forced me to!!'
That's exactly why Clair is better than Cynthia. Clair is not perfect, she's insecure and a bad loser, that's what make her a good character and not a ms perfection like Cynthia, who's a super model also super smart and super strong.

>>12593713
You just defeat the champion. You never actually stands on the champion's throne so probably is not so simple to became the champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:26:59 No.12593868 Report

Quoted By: >>12593969

>>12593815

Cynthia is not perfect. If you go to her office you can notice she's quite messy, and while she has a liking for mythology she's quite lazy when it comes about her work as Champion, though one can understand; being the region's official ass-kicker that almost no one dares to challenge can be quite boring.

And Cynthia is not a super model, that's Elesa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:27:59 No.12593883 Report

Quoted By: >>12593940 >>12593968 >>12595594

>>12593585
I fucking hate cynthia too, the fucking mary sue character. It's annoying how they're forcing her in every fucking game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:30:53 No.12593913 Report

Quoted By:

Alder was a much better champion I dont see why they didnt make the b/w player the champion in b/w2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:32:59 No.12593940 Report

Quoted By: >>12593993

>>12593585
>>12593883

samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:35:00 No.12593968 Report

Quoted By:

>>12593883
>Appears in Gen 4 as the champion
>Appears in Gen 5 as a bonus trainer

>GUYS THEY ARE TOTES FORCING HER EVERYTHING IS CYNTHIA, GOD I BET NEW GAEM WILL BE POKEMON CYNTHIA VERSION BECAUSE CYTNHA IS EVERYWHERE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:35:00 No.12593969 Report

Quoted By: >>12593988

>>12593868
>she's quite messy
>she's quite lazy
>guaranteed characteristics of mary-sues
>"she soo lazy but it's okay because she so perfect and everybody loves her"

You're just making things worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:36:55 No.12593988 Report

Quoted By: >>12594050

>>12593969
>points out Claire's flaws as something good
>someone points out Cynthia's flaws and that makes her a mary sue

You're a fucktard. You're just butthurt because no one fawns enough over your waifu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:37:51 No.12593993 Report

Quoted By: >>12594012

>>12593940
I'm not that fag, you can check this by my ID

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:39:30 No.12594012 Report

Quoted By: >>12594057

>>12593993
>>>/b/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:41:40 No.12594035 Report

Quoted By: >>12594060 >>12594082 >>12594086

>>12593815

That's exactly why Clair isn't a Champion. She can't even accept defeat in a League Gym match, what makes you think she'll accept you beating her as a Champion? She'll just get pissy and claim that you didn't actually beat her, because it's her word against yours and there was no-one else around. A real Champion knows when they're beaten, just like every Champion in every game except for Gary in Red/Blue/Yellow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:43:08 No.12594050 Report

Quoted By: >>12594082

>>12593988
Bein "quite" lazy is not a flaw when you are so perfect. It acts exact on the opposite way, it's like saying the flaw on your character is that he's cursed, but that curse only works on making him more mary-sue, because it's not a real flaw.

Remeber that you say she's lazy, but her looks are perfect. That's exactly what a mary-sue is like, she only have the good parts of her flaws. You'll never see a lazy mary-sue with messy hair, dark circles or swaped clothes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:43:58 No.12594057 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594012
you can check ID outside of /b/ if you know how. that proves I'm not a samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:44:40 No.12594060 Report

Quoted By: >>12594082

>>12594035
Even Blue knew when he was beaten by the time you fight him as champ. He's pissed, but he ultimately admits defeat.

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:46:11 No.12594071 Report

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>>12592501
You know, I just realized. Half of the Champions have popped collars, yet Blue isn't one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:47:31 No.12594082 Report

Quoted By: >>12594158

>>12594050
>being lazy is not a flaw

Being lazy at work has nothing to do with being lazy with your appearance. She'a lazy with her work because it's all paperwork instead of what she likes, either mythos or battling, and since almost no one challenges her, she tends to go out in her adventures in ruins and whatnot.

Also read >>12594035 and >>12594060

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:47:52 No.12594086 Report

Quoted By: >>12594732 >>12595568

>>12594035
It would be interesting to see a champion that cannot acept defeat, actually. I'm sick of all characters being so nice. I had high hopes with Elesa, thinking she would be arrogant and full of herself, but no. Game freak writers really sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:48:30 No.12594096 Report

Quoted By: >>12594182

>Hurrdurr Cynthia is mary-sue

Where did that came from? Because in the games, she appears, talks and leaves, JUS LIKE EVERY OTHER CHAMPION?

Or how people comment on her Strength, since she also happens to be THE CHAMPION?

Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:50:34 No.12594123 Report

Quoted By: >>12594202

>>12593815
There are several instances throughout the games that state you are the new champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:52:04 No.12594146 Report

Quoted By:

>>12569492

i just kept all of mine in black 1, i only do a major transfer if there's a new gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:53:14 No.12594158 Report

Quoted By: >>12594250

>>12594082
In the end, she's not lazy at all. You said it yourself, she's "quite" lazy and even if she was real lazy, that's not a flaw when you are perfect and the best at something, It just makes things worse. Read what I'm writing before making me repeat myself.

And the anons you pointed really have a good point. Maybe Clair would do no good as a champion, but that's a bad thing? Everything has to be according to plan? My fucking dream is GF making the leader of the evil team being the champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:55:05 No.12594182 Report

Quoted By: >>12594220

>>12594096
You know what a mary-sue is? Look up, you'll understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:56:00 No.12594190 Report

Quoted By:

>>12583975
>Pub pour laposte.net
>Frenchfag détecté
>Coupain !

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:56:31 No.12594202 Report

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>>12594123

I think after we beat the Champion, it's implied that we turn down the position in favour of exploring the world as a trainer and continue finishing the Pokedex. After all, you owe it to the Professors, if they weren't lazy then you'd have never gotten a Pokemon and tried to beat the League.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:58:11 No.12594220 Report

Quoted By: >>12594245

>>12594182
>Hurr durr she is a pretty girl and a champion therefore she is a Mary Sue

And I suppose Steve is a gary Stu as well amirite?

I mean look at him, sharp-dressed, so strong, son of sucessfull bzness manm he is always so cool in his appearances.

Yep, Steve is a Gary Stu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 21:59:55 No.12594245 Report

Quoted By: >>12594280

>>12594220
Yep. He is. This does not change the fact that Cynthia also is one, actually it only confirms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:00:38 No.12594250 Report

Quoted By: >>12594291

>>12594158

> You said it yourself, she's "quite" lazy and even if she was real lazy, that's not a flaw when you are perfect and the best at something, It just makes things worse.

>"I'm the world's smartest genius, here's how to build food replicator, teleportation, and warp drive!"

>"I'm also a child molester."

You're right, being the best at one thing totally counteracts all of a person's flaws. If I was really good at my job, but I was constantly skipping work to go explore some fucking ruins on the other side of the world, I'm pretty damn sure my boss would think that was a flaw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:03:26 No.12594280 Report

Quoted By: >>12594340

>>12594245
And Lance is a Gary Stu too. Everyone sucks his dick because he is the dragon master, he Hyper Beams people and gives no fucks.

Wallace is a Gary Stu too. Look at him, so fashionable, so beautiful, with perfect hair, commended for his amazing water skills and pretty cape.

Alder is pretty Gary-Stu too. Brown, wild and beautiful, noble and teaching kids.

And I guess Red and Blue are Gary Stus too they are fashionable, so strong and smart, one of them is a cocky bastard everyone loves, another one is "le strong silent type"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:03:37 No.12594281 Report

Quoted By:

>>12583417
hes my second favorite champ after blue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:04:04 No.12594291 Report

Quoted By: >>12594337 >>12594407

>>12594250
Because being a child molester is a shallow flaw like being lazy. Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:05:57 No.12594310 Report

Quoted By: >>12594821

>>12583983
Hopefully something unexpected. Maybe he'll have a Ditto or two on his team? That might be interesting to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:08:22 No.12594337 Report

Quoted By: >>12594358

>>12594291

Though 4chan hates tripping, I might apport as an example my work at uni: I'm one of the fastest lerners of foreign laguages in my class, but my French really sucks, and professors say that I could easily overcome that if I decided to work more a bit on it, which I don't because I'm a lazy fuck, and they, of course consider it a flaw.

Being awesome at one thing does not overshadow your flaws.

Read http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrilliantButLazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:08:33 No.12594340 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594280
Alder don't fit there, nyugga.

H's ignored his duties and is shown to be to rusty to beat N.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:10:05 No.12594358 Report

Quoted By: >>12594374 >>12594394

>>12594337
>french
>hard
>lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:11:05 No.12594374 Report

Quoted By: >>12594394

>>12594358
I'm Canadian and I can confirm that French is hard.

Fucking Quebeckers, nuke em

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:13:12 No.12594394 Report

Quoted By: >>12594497

>>12594358
>implying that I said French was objectively hard
>implying that it's easier for some than for others

>>12594374

Man, that French from Quebec is a crazy shit. It's so bad that French people have to watch Quebec-French shows with subs because they can't understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:14:23 No.12594407 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594291

And of course you missed my point. Try reading an entire comment next time. Like I said, if I were the best at my job in the entire country,and I was always running off to do something when I should be doing my job, then it is a flaw. Even for a Champion, there's probably a committee that has to handle all of the legal stuff involved with the League. Imagine if a guy worked his way up the ranks, beat all the gym leaders, got past Victory Road to the Elite 4, and was told that he can't compete because the Campion is somewhere else and won't be back for weeks or months. If people in the Pokemon world are half as self-entitled as people in our world, then it'll cause some serious backlash.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:20:22 No.12594472 Report

Quoted By: >>12594519

Steven > Cynthia > Iris >>> Alder > Lance > Blue >>>>>> Wallace

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:21:51 No.12594497 Report

Quoted By: >>12594541

>>12594394
>Man, that French from Quebec is a crazy shit. It's so bad that French people have to watch Quebec-French shows with subs because they can't understand.

It's mostly because of the accent and some expression/word who are differents (char means car in Quebec but it means tank in France)
Even a French who speak French with an heavy regional accent can be hard to understand.
See that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JaLOr9xc30

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:23:12 No.12594519 Report

Quoted By: >>12594555

>>12594472
I think Lance is cooler than Alder.
You know... my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:24:58 No.12594541 Report

Quoted By: >>12594633

>>12594497

I'll take your word for that is French, because I seriously couldn't understand.

>inb4 that's the accent of people in kalos region

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:25:37 No.12594555 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594519
Poncho > Cape

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:32:21 No.12594633 Report

Quoted By: >>12594679

>>12594541
It's the alsatian accent, so maybe only in the east of the region, but because for 90% of the world France=Paris, it will never happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:35:29 No.12594679 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594633

Though in my case my uni professors insists French from Paris = only real French.

It was a joke, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:38:43 No.12594732 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594086
A prat like that would never make it to champion status.

I guess I wouldn't mind a mean/arrogant champion (and Blue basically fits the bill for that anyway!) but one that cannot accept defeat is ridiculous and has nothing to do with bad writing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 22:43:03 No.12594821 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594310
I wouldn't mind that if it was a DW Ditto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 23:14:34 No.12595568 Report

Quoted By:

>>12594086
The E4/Gym leaders/Champions are supposed to not only train new trainers and help them test their strength, but they seem to work as representatives of the city they live in as well as fighting evil teams if they ever caused too much trouble. Considering most of the B/W gym leaders had other jobs on top of being a gym leader, I assume it's a voluntary position too.
A person who is legitimately mean and self-absorbed would probably never manage to get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 23:15:46 No.12595594 Report

Quoted By:

>>12593883
>Crasher Wake shows up in every main game since D/P/Pt
HURRR THEY'RE FORCING HIM IN THE GAEM

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