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Bumping your bros up to higher tiers

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:25:28 No.12568720 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12568778 >>12568803 >>12568876 >>12575604 >>12575821 >>12576063

I'll begin;

>primeape with dragon dance and bullet punch
>Weezing with Poison heal/analytic (with curse it would destroy things)
>Glalie with Solid rock
>Claydol with Sand Stream/Sand Rush/ sand Veil

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:29:22 No.12568778 Report

Quoted By: >>12568876 >>12575827

>>12568720
Another could be Volcorona or Camerupt with Drought, may help bring them up to the higher tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:30:40 No.12568803 Report

Quoted By: >>12568851

>>12568720
>weezing with poison heal
that'll sure help it, I HATE it when my poison types get poisoned

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:31:11 No.12568816 Report

Quoted By: >>12575459

>give Honchkrow 121 speed
>give Murkrow 101 speed and 105 attack
There, they're now useful.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:33:54 No.12568851 Report

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>>12568803
oh shit, I totally forgot about that! Regenerator might also be nice, but it's kind of situational

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:35:05 No.12568869 Report

Quoted By: >>12568925

>>12568851
regenerator is would be cool, but Levitate is what it would still use, that ground immunity is what makes it worthwhile using

Wendy [W2] 0390-7651-6683

Wendy [W2] 0390-7651-6683 Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:35:22 No.12568876 Report

Quoted By: >>12568925

>>12568778
>volcarona with drought
stop
camerupt is valid though
>>12568720
>weezing with poison heal
>poison types getting poisoned
>weezing without levitate
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:38:22 No.12568925 Report

Quoted By: >>12575461 >>12581565

>>12568869
that's a good point, I don't know what could help him, but man do i love his design.
>>12568876
Volcarona is a bit of a tiff, but camerupt needs SOMETHING to bump him up, even giving him sand veil or sand stream would help him too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:39:40 No.12568951 Report

Quoted By: >>12568979

weezing boost idea: give it recover instead of relying on black sludge and pain split

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:40:54 No.12568979 Report

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>>12568951
recover AND black sludge would make it more formidable, especially with a curse boosting set as op said

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:42:51 No.12569011 Report

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Porygon-Z: Give him some more Speed, or access to Focus Miss. It's sad that his prevo is better than him in a lot of ways.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:45:08 No.12569052 Report

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>Toxic Boost now ups all stats, excluding evasion and accuracy by 20%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:55:47 No.12569226 Report

Quoted By: >>12581614 >>12588548

Give Flareon Speed Boost.
Give Minccino Icicle Spear.
Weezing needs Recover.
Give Snorlax Slack Off.
Give Marowak Technician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 22:59:10 No.12569281 Report

Quoted By: >>12571778 >>12575211 >>12585227

I'm gonna try accounting for the next gen's power creep.

>Crawdaunt
gets Aqua Jet and Sucker Punch

>Weezing
gets evolution: Poison/Electric
90 HP
90 ATT
140 DEF
95 S.ATT
100 S.DEF
60 SPD
Gets recovery move, toxic spikes, and thunder wave as notable movepool extensions.

>Gengar
Nasty Plot and Aura Sphere

>Aerodactyl
Brave Bird, Head Smash

>Ice types
Resist water, grass, and ground. New item: Freezer. Ice-type Black Sludge, but works in increments of 1/10ths HP.

>Blastoise
Shell Smash.

>Galvantula
Quiver Dance

>Metagross
Shift Gear

>Klinklang
Earthquake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Jun 2013 23:26:38 No.12569856 Report

Quoted By: >>12571692 >>12575846

>Marowak gets purepower
>while holding thick club

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:27:19 No.12571556 Report

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Most of my favorites that I have trouble using just need not shit stats.

Delcatty even has an entirely unique ability that gives it some interesting utility, and I still can't bring myself to use one even ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:33:17 No.12571637 Report

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if umbreon had magic bounce.. oigh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:36:54 No.12571676 Report

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throh w/ scrappy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:37:27 No.12571686 Report

Quoted By: >>12575120 >>12575832 >>12576282

>Serperior
>contrary ability unlocked
>learns draco meteor and overheat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:37:58 No.12571692 Report

Quoted By: >>12571737 >>12575288

>>12569856
>still NU because it's slow as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:41:34 No.12571737 Report

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>>12571692
>over twice the attack of Deoxyz-A
Once trick room is set up, it's gonna destroy everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 01:46:08 No.12571778 Report

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>>12569281
>Ice type
>resist Grass

>Grass now even more in the lead for most resisted type at 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 09:17:00 No.12575120 Report

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>>12571686
>Overheat
Shit would get banned to Ubers
I needs to get souperpower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 09:28:51 No.12575186 Report

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Give Kingler some actual physical attacks besides Crab Hammer, maybe more speed too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 09:36:08 No.12575211 Report

Quoted By: >>12588749

>>12569281
>Freeze
That Ice Body Sub Protect Walrein under Hail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:04:56 No.12575288 Report

Quoted By: >>12575319

>>12571692
I'm sure a pokemon that can OHKO anything would definitely be NU material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:18:44 No.12575319 Report

Quoted By: >>12575422

>>12575288
Remind me what tier Rampardos is in again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:20:33 No.12575336 Report

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Steel is weak to Poison
Roserade now OU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:24:58 No.12575355 Report

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>gets Hi Jump Kick and Circle Throw
>U-turn lowered to 60 BP
>fuck it, gets Rock Blast too

I really think he could use the buff, y'know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:34:17 No.12575386 Report

Quoted By: >>12581833

Furret get's Prankster.
BOOM instant UU at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:45:58 No.12575419 Report

Quoted By: >>12575589

>Umbreon with magic bounce
>Jynx with heat proof and 45 more base defense
>Scyther: idk maybe some ability scizor can't have that makes fury cutter always have max power
>Blaziken is already ubers
>Breloom is already OU
>Lopunny gets an ability that doubles return's BP
>Braviary give it 20 or 30 more base speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:47:28 No.12575422 Report

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>>12575319
Rampardos also can't OHKO everything in the game.
I don't think you understand the metagame, or understand how strong marowak would be in that case

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:48:33 No.12575424 Report

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Marowak with Technician, or Head Smash to abuse Rock Head.

It has up to 568 attack with thick club and maximum offensive investment. All it needs is a push.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:58:48 No.12575459 Report

Quoted By: >>12575465

>>12568816
Huge power farfetch'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 10:59:51 No.12575461 Report

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>>12568925
Give Weezing an evolution, make it Dark/poison and keep levitate, would be straight to OU if not higher...

(And before it is said, Eviolite Weezing would be good too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:00:26 No.12575465 Report

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>>12575459
didn't mean to link to that, so ignore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:09:12 No.12575507 Report

Quoted By: >>12575514

>pidgeot gains 30 special attack, learns vacuum wave, icy wind

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:09:50 No.12575514 Report

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>>12575507
>also gains a decent ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:28:17 No.12575589 Report

Quoted By: >>12575666

>>12575419
Scyther's already good.
>Technician
>evoilite
>bugbite
>aerial ace

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:30:48 No.12575597 Report

Quoted By: >>12575889

>Infiltrator hits behind Substitutes and Protect

Crobat is now OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:33:33 No.12575604 Report

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>>12568720
As Primeape is my bro too, I don't think it should learn Dragon dance. It should have Hustle as ability + Make submision a 120 move.
Gimlicky but it fits it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:40:32 No.12575622 Report

Quoted By: >>12575627

Spoink gets contrary and psycho boost. He now wrecks LC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:42:26 No.12575627 Report

Quoted By: >>12575648

>>12575622
Oh, and he gets an evo that's not Grumpshit, that just so happens to have base 590 stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:45:15 No.12575648 Report

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>>12575627
Grumpig should evolve into Ground/Psychic or Steel/Psychic Pig

xloudman

xloudman Fri 07 Jun 2013 11:50:34 No.12575666 Report

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>>12575589
>not wanting scyther with a 160 BP move with 95% accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:31:11 No.12575821 Report

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>>12568720
>Weezing with Poison Heal

Come on, now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:33:23 No.12575827 Report

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>>12568778
>Bring Volcarona up to a higher tier

Even if it weren't already in the highest tier (not counting Ubers, which is more of a ban list than a tier), Volcarona already shits all over everything. It does not need to better than it already is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:36:01 No.12575832 Report

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>>12571686
Draco Meteor might be legit because it's serpentine, but Overheat makes absolutely no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:38:13 No.12575846 Report

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>>12569856
Also, it actually learns Trick Room so it doesn't have to waste one of the four turns switching in.

Black !!jIcPNMSVBL3

Black !!jIcPNMSVBL3 Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:41:57 No.12575875 Report

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>Sceptile
>swap it's offensive stats
Done.
Give it Stone Edge as an added bonus
Give it Dragon Dance for maximum fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:42:42 No.12575880 Report

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Arcanine gets the ability to have six moveslots so it can run Flare Blitz/Wild Charge/Close Combat/ExtremeSpeed/Crunch/Morning Sun.

Because it's already great, but it has major four moveslot syndrome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:45:00 No.12575889 Report

Quoted By: >>12576322

>>12575597
Infiltrator would be banned in a heartbeat, that is the brokenest shit ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 12:49:11 No.12575903 Report

Quoted By: >>12585092

Charizard
>Give him a move like Quiver Dance
>Buff his defense so he can take a hit
>Take away Solar Power's HP cost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 13:00:48 No.12575945 Report

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Adaptability Lilligant with 110 Base Speed
150 BP Giga Drain
with Quiver Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 13:01:07 No.12575948 Report

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scyther
>flying type physical quick attack variant

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 13:05:46 No.12575969 Report

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Nidoking with Mold Breaker, Moxie, or Technician.
Or No Guard, but it would no longer learn Horn Drill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 13:13:02 No.12576008 Report

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Boys, changing stats isn't fair, and they will never do that again.

Also
Roserade gets Quiver Dance, considerig it is based on a ballroom dancer too.

Venomoth gets an evo boosting HP, Attack, Defense by 10 and Sp.Attack, Sp.Defense, Speed by 20. That takes the total to 540, on par with Gyarados, Snorlax, Haxorus &co.
And some new moves of course

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 13:32:20 No.12576063 Report

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>>12568720
>Primeape with shell smash and defiant
Makes absolutely no sense but would destroy everything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:01:02 No.12576173 Report

Quoted By: >>12576204 >>12576384

This nigga's begging for a good boosting move. Dragon Dance, Quiver Dance, Agility- anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:05:20 No.12576204 Report

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>>12576173
This guy knows what's up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:18:09 No.12576282 Report

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>>12571686
>contrary draco meteor
Welcome to Ubers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:22:51 No.12576311 Report

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I just want Zap Cannon on my Golurk!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:25:05 No.12576322 Report

Quoted By: >>12581636

>>12575889
In Standard OU, no. In VGC, hell yes. Guess what GF cares more about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 14:34:56 No.12576384 Report

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>>12576173
nasty plot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:25:34 No.12581444 Report

Quoted By: >>12581528

Drizzle + Hurricane should make Zapdos OU again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:32:41 No.12581528 Report

Quoted By: >>12581674 >>12581823

>>12581444
>100% accurate STAB Thunder and Hurricane
Sounds awesome, until you realize that it's walled by each and every Electric-, Rock/Ground- and Steel/Ground-type with anything resembling special bulk, as well as Chansey and Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:36:09 No.12581565 Report

Quoted By: >>12581674

>>12568925
Weezing needs Recover more than anything. Maybe also some good coverage moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:40:05 No.12581614 Report

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>>12569226
Technician would be nice, but asides from Bonemerang it wouldn't really do much unless Marowak gets some form of priority.

>flareon with speed boost
Still no moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:41:51 No.12581636 Report

Quoted By: >>12585050

>>12576322
Aside from Crobat, what can even use it? Besides, given all the Rock Slides and Intimidates it's not like Crobat would be broken in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:44:53 No.12581674 Report

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>>12581528
It's Gen 1 all over again!

Except not. Hidden Power Ice exists. Hell, HP Water might make a comeback if it's used soley in rain. Though, with Flying STAB, it's far more likely to use HP Ground/Rock.

>>12581565
Thunder/bolt + Fire Blast/Flamethrower. What more do you want in coverage?
It just needs Recover. Ideally, it'd want more base stats, but that's never happening.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:49:19 No.12581766 Report

Quoted By: >>12589113

>Typhlosion
Drought. That alone should propel it to OU.
>nomoves
Let it learn Discharge and Energy Ball. Alternately, switch its Attack and Special Attack BST.

>Gallade
Mach Punch and a priority physical psychic move.

>Metagross
Shift Gear and Levitate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:53:08 No.12581823 Report

Quoted By: >>12581839

>>12581528
If Fearow gets Drill Run, I don't see why Zapdos shouldn't.
Thunder/Hurricane/Drill Run/Roost in combination with rain would work well enough to be banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:53:33 No.12581833 Report

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>>12575386
Just like Liepard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:54:15 No.12581839 Report

Quoted By: >>12581852 >>12581874

>>12581823
>Drill Run
>Not HP Ground
Naw, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:55:26 No.12581852 Report

Quoted By: >>12581874 >>12581966

>>12581839
Pink blobs wall HP Ground all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 21:57:40 No.12581874 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581839
>>12581852
Earthquake would still be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 22:04:15 No.12581966 Report

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>>12581852
0 Atk Life Orb Zapdos Drill Run vs 252 HP/252 Def Blissey (+Def) : 17.37% - 20.45% (7-9 hits to KO)

252 SpAtk Life Orb Zapdos Thunder vs 252 HP/4 SpDef Blissey: 26.89% - 31.51% (4-5 hits to KO)

0 Atk Life Orb Zapdos Earthquake vs 252 HP/252 Def Blissey (+Def) : 21.71% - 25.63% (5-7 hits to KO)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jun 2013 22:22:10 No.12582231 Report

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>Volcarona is already good, I'd just give it maybe one more special attacking move or a +def boosting move so i can make more interesting sets.
>Blaziken is too good, replace speed boost with reckless.
>Furret, I want it to get an evolution, a shooting star inspired mega ferret, normal/fire, high speed, good attacking stats, it's my dream pokemon that will never happen
>Flareon, poor thing, switch its stats around and/or give it fire-type extremespeed, a couple of fighting/ground/rock moves in its movepool wouldn't be too bad either.
>Magcargo, evolution, with an ability like solid rock or filter, then a STAB special rock move, Shell Smash to victory.
>Samurott, give it Shell Smash and Close Combat or some other good attacking move.
>Meganium, make Leaf Guard work like Hydration for sun at least.
>A lot of Pokemon with Flash Fire, make it fire-type chlorophyll

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:38:32 No.12584855 Report

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I think giving Muk Close Combat or Superpower, and the elemental Punches might bump it up. His stats are already pretty good.
For Clefable, you know, make it a Fairy type, if that ever comes to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:51:15 No.12585050 Report

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>>12581636
I believe Jumpluff gets it also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 01:53:32 No.12585092 Report

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>>12575903
Don't forget:
>ban Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 02:00:50 No.12585227 Report

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>>12569281

>Eviolite Weezing

Yeah, this needs to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 06:51:11 No.12588548 Report

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>>12569226
Cincinno now has 115 Attack and learns Icicle Spear and Arm Thrust

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 07:37:02 No.12588749 Report

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>>12575211
Using a speedy Ice type to Trick freezer onto a Pokemon and freeze it
>Trick it back for use against the next victim or start boosting up
>Sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 09:33:36 No.12589104 Report

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Shell Smash Blastoise and 5 more in each base stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jun 2013 09:39:18 No.12589113 Report

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>>12581766
And Earth Power. It's the Volcano Pokémon ffs!

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