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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:28:42 No.12619216 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12619270 >>12619497

>mfw no high base speed fairy pokemon
>mfw all the new fairy type moves are shit
>mfw you can't fix a metagame so broke

Guyz, do you even Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:31:45 No.12619270 Report

Quoted By: >>12619308 >>12619435

>>12619216
>Xerneas
>Awakened Mewtwo
>Sinnoh Lake Trio
>Cresselia
>Celebi

Keep crying though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:33:53 No.12619308 Report

Quoted By: >>12619357

>>12619270
>I think they're fairies, so they must be fairies!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:36:03 No.12619357 Report

Quoted By: >>12619375 >>12619412 >>12619580

>>12619308
>yfw they confirm it

Keep crying Smogonfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:37:49 No.12619375 Report

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>>12619357
>implying I am a smogonfag
Keep talking about le epic tear drinkings all over the board though, don't mind me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:37:56 No.12619382 Report

Quoted By: >>12619414 >>12620399

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:39:38 No.12619412 Report

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>>12619357
>i want them to confirm it
>therefore it will be confirmed
top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:39:42 No.12619414 Report

Quoted By: >>12619440 >>12619468 >>12619491 >>12620044

>>12619382
>yfw salamence will still outspeed and OHKO sylveon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:40:59 No.12619435 Report

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>>12619270
Lel
What is Giratina?
Also... FAIRY TYPE MOVES not FAIRY TYPE POKEMON.
Please, give Cresselia another weakness to exploit along with its shit speed

Also, you have no idea about Xerneas, it's moves, it's type or it's stats.
I know Rayquaza, Giratina and Garchomp have fucking amazing stats and move pools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:40:59 No.12619436 Report

Quoted By: >>12619459 >>12619491

More denialfag tears! My thirst is being quenched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:41:16 No.12619440 Report

Quoted By:

>>12619414
>still buttmad about fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:42:21 No.12619459 Report

Quoted By:

>>12619436
xD troled hard get rekd 10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:42:49 No.12619468 Report

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>>12619414
yfw
>base 120 SpAtk
>base 110 Speed
>Moonblast base power 120
>Scarfed Sylveon immediately OU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:43:49 No.12619491 Report

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>>12619436
see
>>12619414

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:44:03 No.12619497 Report

Quoted By: >>12619596 >>12619866 >>12620409

>>12619216
There will probably be.

Fairy is also a strong check against outrage/draco meteor as the consequences are too steep considering it's so easy to switch. With outrage you'd lock yourself in for an easy death, with draco meteor you'd do too little damage considering you'd cripple your attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:46:40 No.12619562 Report

Quoted By: >>12619593 >>12619601

ITT:
People who forget Eeveelutions are shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:47:09 No.12619580 Report

Quoted By:

>>12619357
>no face
>yfw they confirm they aren't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:47:39 No.12619593 Report

Quoted By: >>12619956

>>12619562
>jolteon, espeon, vaporeon
>shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:47:44 No.12619596 Report

Quoted By: >>12620409

>>12619497
Gardevoir with fairy would be a decent wall.

Clefable with fairy is a one team rape machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:47:56 No.12619601 Report

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>>12619562
Jolteon and Vaporeon are pretty good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:56:06 No.12619866 Report

Quoted By: >>12619954 >>12619960

>>12619497

So what stops steel types from already doing this?
Other than resistance you're going to need high SpDef since a Dragon gem boosted Draco meteor from Hydraegon would still OHKO a mid SpDef fairy pokemon after sneaky pebbles.

You people just don't understand stats do you? still playing the "I'ma gunna use 60 power move 'cos super effective XD"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:59:03 No.12619954 Report

Quoted By: >>12620117 >>12620409

>>12619866
>What stops steel types from already doing this.

Fairy types will hit super effectively. Or they'll be dangerous checks.

Would you switch out a Dragon to Clefable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:59:07 No.12619956 Report

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>>12619593
I'll give you espeon, but even fucking Xatu is being used because of the ability. So it's not base stats, move pool or type that's done it any favors.
And Vap/Jolteon's day has been done for a while. better bulky waters, better rain makers/ elec sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 14:59:23 No.12619960 Report

Quoted By: >>12619999 >>12620210 >>12620409

>>12619866
Steel types are weak to the omnipresent earthquake and kinda suck as an attacking type.

Having options is a good thing. If the rumored weaknesses of fairy are true as well then it also serves to buff steel into a more useful attacking type too.

I wouldn't be surprised if they dialed back stealth rock a bit by either modifying its damage formula or offering alternatives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:00:07 No.12619981 Report

Quoted By: >>12620006

What if Gallade is made Fighting/Fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:00:55 No.12619999 Report

Quoted By: >>12620039

>>12619960
Isn't poison rumored to be SE against Fairy?

More Poison usage would be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:01:08 No.12620006 Report

Quoted By: >>12620049

>>12619981

They won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:02:14 No.12620039 Report

Quoted By: >>12620087

>>12619999
Yeah, poison is rumored too.

Fairy might well be a great balancing act if done properly. It'll make great types worse and bad types better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:02:17 No.12620044 Report

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>>12619414
didn't outspeed it from that picture :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:02:32 No.12620049 Report

Quoted By: >>12620319

>>12620006
Why not?

Would be cool if they did, Gallade would become a dragon killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:03:58 No.12620087 Report

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>>12620039
Heard that poison is getting the bug treatment that Gen 5 did and tons of cool poison pokemon will be introduced.

I want a poison/Fairy pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:04:55 No.12620117 Report

Quoted By: >>12620179 >>12620205

>>12619954
>If there are any good fairy type moves
Yeah it was suggested the fairy would be switching in to the attack. Also Multiscale means a Dragonite can't be OHKO'd by 4x effective stab 90 power and Fairy will only be 2x, I wouldn't sweat it too much since DRAGONS DON'T SOLELY HAVE TO USE DRAGON TYPE MOVES

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:06:32 No.12620179 Report

Quoted By: >>12620409

>>12620117
It kills outrage though.

If you lock into outrage and they throw out a fairy, unless they make the fairy's defensive stats shit, that dragon is probably gonna die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:07:20 No.12620205 Report

Quoted By: >>12620409 >>12620521

>>12620117
You really are adamant against fairies for MUH DRAGONS ain't you?

Salamence was shown being outsped by Sylveon. And probably onehit.

Dragonite won't be obviously. But the sheer utility some of the fairy pokemon would bring means Dragonite will not have an easy time.

It gets what? One dragon dance off before being KOed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:07:43 No.12620210 Report

Quoted By: >>12620253

>>12619960
As mentioned, steel types such offensively because they have strong enough defenses to wall 150 power stab moves.
But sure, if you made something fast, strong and bulky of course it's going to be OP, but is that how it works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:09:21 No.12620253 Report

Quoted By: >>12620320

>>12620210
If it can't do any damage back then that is sorta shitty too.

With a couple types weak to steel you can turn its meager attack into something usable in those niche situations as well as walling for general use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:11:34 No.12620319 Report

Quoted By: >>12620350

>>12620049
>Slow
>Dragon killer
Pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:11:34 No.12620320 Report

Quoted By: >>12620703

>>12620253
Indeed.

Steel was always alright against dragons because they'd just run fire punch or whatever to deal with them.

Can anyone name dragons that can learn ice moves apart from kuyrem and Ice punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:12:31 No.12620350 Report

Quoted By: >>12620582

>>12620319
>High Attack
>High Special defence.

He'd be able to switch in and one hit shit with ease. if it's special based.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:13:13 No.12620377 Report

Quoted By: >>12620402

YFW the pseudolegendary for Gen 6 will be Fairy/Dragon with Levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:13:56 No.12620399 Report

Quoted By:

>>12619382
Anyone knows what types are Fairies weak and strong against?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:14:05 No.12620402 Report

Quoted By:

>>12620377
No, it'll be fairy steel with levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:14:15 No.12620409 Report

Quoted By: >>12620553

>>12620179
>>12620205
>>12619960
>>12619954
>>12619596
>>12619497

No mention of dragon resistance only fairy supereffective.
C'mon people. Are you even trying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:17:49 No.12620512 Report

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If fairy is immune to dragon types at least it can force a switch on outrageous Pokemon, especially salamence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:18:03 No.12620521 Report

Quoted By: >>12620591

>>12620205
>Dragon dance
Faster than fairy, stronger than fairy
Yeah, going dooooooown

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:19:18 No.12620553 Report

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>>12620409
Someone caluclated that Moonblast from Sylveon was doing 140 base damage from a 110 sp attack. based on estimates from older reveals and shit.

It also outsped salamence. Sylveon itself will rape any single dragon type to death.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:20:13 No.12620582 Report

Quoted By: >>12620695

>>12620350
What is Physical Dragon pokemon with intimidate?
LOLOLOLOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:20:34 No.12620591 Report

Quoted By: >>12620663

>>12620521
>Dies to a second hit.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:23:00 No.12620663 Report

Quoted By: >>12620753

>>12620591
That never comes because faster and stronger with a varied move pool (which may even contain a move that's super effective)
You just don't know anything do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:24:17 No.12620695 Report

Quoted By: >>12620771

>>12620582
>Intimidate on a Dragon.

So Salamence?

Better ice Punch him then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:24:46 No.12620703 Report

Quoted By: >>12620769

>>12620320
Dragonite, Kingdra, Latios, Latias, Rayquaza, Dialga and Palkia can all learn Ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:26:28 No.12620753 Report

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>>12620663
>Thunderwave on the dragon dance
>Will-o-wisp on the dragon dance

It's like you forgot most of these former fairy pokemon have huge debuff roles anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:27:18 No.12620769 Report

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>>12620703
So they all have to be special related.

And thats easier to deal with than Outrage spam.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:27:18 No.12620771 Report

Quoted By: >>12620860

>>12620695
Thank you!
Why are people acting like a move thats super against dragons doesn't exist? And mostly 4x at that!

I'm okay with Dragons having another weakness, but thinking EVERY Fairy type will be OP with an amazing move pool is delusional...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:31:33 No.12620860 Report

Quoted By:

>>12620771
Basically, I see it like this.

Sylveon was shown to be a fast powerhouse. It'll probably rape garchomp, Salamence, Flygon and other fast dragons designed to outspeed and neutral hit with outrage. It'll beat them at their own game as it were.

So it's more weakness on dragons, not the sudden downward destruction of them, it'll be plenty balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:39:09 No.12621027 Report

Quoted By:

ice better be resistant to fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:45:50 No.12621187 Report

Quoted By:

wait, do we have a list of retyped moves and pokemon yet? Link?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2013 15:54:10 No.12621374 Report

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>Salamance looks at you teary eyed
>1 hp after getting wrecked by fairy type jiggly puff
>N-No more Xavier-san...
>SALAMENCE USED OUTRAGE
>It was no very effective

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