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>Shelgon gets split evo where it decides "FUCK FLYING" and stays in its shell with a colossal defense boost

>Becomes only viable dragon for its ability to shrug off Azumarill's Fairy Jet and OHKO back with a Rock Head Volt Tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 11:41:58 No.12748745 Report

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>>12748721
shut your mouth Ferrothorn. You're a douche. Also, scarfed sp.atk Rampardos with Fire Blast gets you every time. You think you'd learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 11:56:11 No.12748785 Report

Quoted By: >>12748889

>dragon killer
unless it gets something better than ice punch, no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 11:58:35 No.12748792 Report

Quoted By: >>12748794

>>12748696
>Azumarill is the new dragon killer!

It always was. Adamant Huge Power Ice Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 11:59:47 No.12748794 Report

Quoted By: >>12748825

>>12748792
but gets OHKO'd by any dragon move and is slow as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:00:32 No.12748796 Report

Quoted By: >>12749766

>>12748734
That's actually a pretty damn good idea. I always found it retarded how Salamence doesn't look a thing like Shelgon at all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:00:43 No.12748799 Report

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>>12748734
>Shelgon gets split evo where it decides "FUCK FLYING"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:02:04 No.12748811 Report

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>>12748721
>tfw Superpower

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:04:02 No.12748825 Report

Quoted By: >>12748892 >>12749640 >>12749749

>>12748794

Focus Sash
SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:20:32 No.12748889 Report

Quoted By: >>12748923

>>12748785
It's obvious it's going to get a Fairy-type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:21:56 No.12748892 Report

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>>12748825
>implying no entry hazards.
No. the Fairy-type with the Dragon resistance is the only thing that can make it a Dragon killer. Or at least an interesting threat to Dragons, expecially in a Rain team with a Politoed to powerup its Water stabs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:25:18 No.12748912 Report

Quoted By: >>12749771

>>12748721
how much damage does an azumarril's focus punch to that thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:28:11 No.12748923 Report

Quoted By: >>12748946

>>12748889
I do wonder if most fairy moves will be special

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:33:08 No.12748946 Report

Quoted By: >>12748977 >>12748979

>>12748923
All types have decent options both on the Physical and Special side, with the only exception being Rock (Power Gem is just a retarded Hidden Power).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:39:22 No.12748977 Report

Quoted By: >>12749011

>>12748946
normal and ground also lack decent special moves, and if you look at all the fairy pokemon so far, none of them have physical attacking qualities. azumarill being an exception but that's only because of its ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:40:29 No.12748979 Report

Quoted By: >>12749011

>>12748946
I wouldn't say Rock has the greatest physical movepool either.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:46:54 No.12748991 Report

Quoted By: >>12749004

>>12748696
>implying you're not gonna get raped by magnebrozone, metaboss, burrito punch scizor, febrothorn, brozong or muh finally good attacking type poison bros nibroking, brobat, tentabro, toxicbroak, gengbrah and bronusaur

Stay delusional fairy fags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:50:28 No.12749004 Report

Quoted By: >>12749008 >>12749024

>>12748991
by that logic, kyogre sucks because it can get OHKOd by an electric attack

also azumarill is neutral to steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:51:32 No.12749008 Report

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>>12749004
or should I say, will be neutral

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:52:30 No.12749010 Report

Quoted By: >>12749019

Where is this newsletter? I see no one else talking about it. Only Marill is known to be Fairy. It isn't known if it KEEPS the type as Azumarill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:52:36 No.12749011 Report

Quoted By: >>12749018 >>12749067

>>12748977
Normal has Hyper Voice and Tri Attack for those who get it, while Ground has Earth Power. Power Gem is both shitty AND rare.

>>12748979
Are Rock Slide and Stone Edge not enough for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:55:00 No.12749018 Report

Quoted By: >>12749032

>>12749011
hyper voice and tri attack have low distribution, the same could easily happen with fairy and physical moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:55:04 No.12749019 Report

Quoted By: >>12749027

>>12749010
Dear god, again with this bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:56:09 No.12749024 Report

Quoted By: >>12749039

>>12749004
>implying kyogre doesn't have the bulk to take STAB electric attacks from most Pokémon in existence.

Your fairies won't break the dragon/steel combo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:57:25 No.12749027 Report

Quoted By: >>12749030

>>12749019
Show it to me, then. Show me something OFFICIAL saying Azumarill is Fairy. (photoshopping doesn't count)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:58:25 No.12749030 Report

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>>12749027
why would they give it fairy type and then take it away for its evolution you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:59:23 No.12749032 Report

Quoted By: >>12749049

>>12749018
>hyper voice has low distribution
Not really, everyone who may want to use gets it. The only requirement seems to be having a mouth.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:00:33 No.12749038 Report

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The real, merciless, bloodthirsty dragon slayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:00:43 No.12749039 Report

Quoted By: >>12749053

>>12749024
you miss the point. the electric type "beats" kyogre but can't switch in, just like poison and steel types won't want to swtich in on a choice band azumarill waterfall

fairies will be a more reliable dragon counter than steel ever was

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:04:34 No.12749049 Report

Quoted By: >>12749113

>>12749032
I forgot that hyper voice got a tutor in BW2. before that it was pretty rare

it's still only 2 moves though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:06:31 No.12749053 Report

Quoted By: >>12749062 >>12749103

>>12749039
The point is dragons have the stats and moves to use those 600 BST to weaken your fairy counters while steel types will reliably counter fairies so the dragon steel type combo will still be strong while my poison bros become more relevant.

(I'm still happy dragons get nerfed though)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:08:46 No.12749062 Report

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>>12749053

Dragons haven't really been nerf as everything else has been buffed.

Poison now has an actual role as an attacking type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:09:48 No.12749067 Report

Quoted By: >>12749113

>>12749011
>Are Rock Slide and Stone Edge not enough for you?

Rock Slide is horribly weak, and Stone Edge is just terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:18:45 No.12749103 Report

Quoted By: >>12749651

>>12749053
unlike steels, fairies aren't weak to fire and ground moves which every dragon-type has. they also get an immunity to dragon rather than just a resist, which is huge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:22:35 No.12749113 Report

Quoted By: >>12749140

>>12749067
Still better than nothing.

>>12749049
>it's still only 2 moves though
That means nothing. There is only one usable Special Ghost type move and, considering it's both powerful, accurate and incredibly common, it's more than enough. The same could be said about Hyper Voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:30:13 No.12749140 Report

Quoted By: >>12749154 >>12749720 >>12749776

>>12749113
but ghost is a specially dominant type (physical + ghost doesn't really make sense). it has no decent physical moves apart from the weak shadow claw and the exclusive shadow force. since fairy also looks to be a specially dominant type, that's why I think physical fairy moves will be rare

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:36:55 No.12749154 Report

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>>12749140
>I think physical fairy moves will be rare
As long there is at least one decent option, everything will be ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:49:03 No.12749213 Report

Quoted By: >>12749233

I don't think you realize what "confirmed" means. It may be a logical conclusion, but until something official says it is, it's speculation and nothing more. Nothing said Azumarill is Fairy type, so it is NOT confirmed, and nothing you say can MAKE it confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:54:32 No.12749233 Report

Quoted By: >>12749247 >>12749260

>>12749213
Erm, you do realize was revealed as Fairy type in the official Pokemon X/Y gameplay trailer right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:55:35 No.12749247 Report

Quoted By: >>12749254

>>12749233
I meant "...Marill was revealed as Fairy type..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:57:36 No.12749254 Report

Quoted By: >>12749706

>>12749247

I believe he's some fagot who will post Surskit and go "Look, this Pokémon was confirmed as Water type, I guess its evolution is too!" even though it's not remotely the same situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 13:58:37 No.12749260 Report

Quoted By: >>12749264

>>12749233
That was Maril, not Azumarill. One part of the evo line does not confirm the entire evo line. I am not against Azumarill being a Fairy type, but stop acting like it is when nothing said it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:00:10 No.12749264 Report

Quoted By: >>12749293

>>12749260
Not sure if trolling, or just stupid...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:07:32 No.12749293 Report

Quoted By: >>12749326 >>12749333 >>12749349 >>12749620

>>12749264
What part of "I am not against Azumarill being Fairy type" did you not understand? Just stop saying it's confirmed because it's not. I don't even care if it's a foregone conclusion. Until it is shown as a Fairy type, it is not confirmed, it is SPECULATION.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:13:11 No.12749326 Report

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>>12749293
Again. Not sure if trolling, or just stupid.
Sorry bro, but you're dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:13:55 No.12749333 Report

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>>12749293
are you serious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:16:50 No.12749349 Report

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>>12749293
Stay mad faggot

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:29:52 No.12749413 Report

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are you fucking serious right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 14:31:04 No.12749417 Report

Quoted By: >>12749629 >>12749723

Okay, I plainly need to be simpler.

NOT ARGUING TYPE. ARGUING THAT YOU SAID "CONFIRMED".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:13:22 No.12749620 Report

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>>12749293
please get off /vp/ you are literally retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:15:33 No.12749629 Report

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>>12749417
please direct us to the post in this thread where anyone ever said AZUMARILL is confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:18:44 No.12749640 Report

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>>12748825
>Hazards
>Not out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:19:53 No.12749651 Report

Quoted By: >>12749661

>>12749103
Most dragons don't use Outrage anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:21:42 No.12749661 Report

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>>12749651
not sure if serious. every physical attacking dragon does

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:29:20 No.12749706 Report

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>>12749254
Especially because Maril doesnt evolve from a water-type yet was pure water.

That said, Azuril was a Cleffa copypaste with arranged stats and movepool. Maybe they'll finally fix Azurill's issues?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:30:46 No.12749720 Report

Quoted By: >>12749770

>>12749140
>but ghost is a specially dominant type
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Claw
Shadow Force
Astonish
Lick?

Ghost is primarily physical, save Shadow Ball, which isn't even that strong

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:31:11 No.12749723 Report

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>>12749417
Are you okay? All is well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:33:46 No.12749749 Report

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>>12748825
>hurf durf

you can say that every pokemon is a coiunter then with focus sash + counter [the move]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:35:59 No.12749766 Report

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>>12748796
Good because I always found it retarded how Butterfree doesn't look a thing like Metapod at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:36:24 No.12749770 Report

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>>12749720
but ghosts are not actually physical. most ghost pokemon also have higher special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:36:25 No.12749771 Report

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>>12748912
With a Choice Band it's a OHKO. A CB boosted superpower also has a big chance to OHKO standard Ferrothorn after SR damage (and even with maxed defense there is a small chance). Without a CB both will 2HKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:37:28 No.12749776 Report

Quoted By: >>12749811

>>12749140
> (physical + ghost doesn't really make sense)
Ghost was a physical type before gen IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:42:47 No.12749811 Report

Quoted By: >>12749854

>>12749776
and I think we can all agree that that doesn't make sense at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:50:24 No.12749854 Report

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>>12749811
Of course he does, dArk was the speciAl type against psychic before gen IV and gHost was the pHysical type against psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2013 15:51:45 No.12749869 Report

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http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent-35675650

so fairies will stop my outrageous rampage?

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