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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:24:09 No.12761011 View View Reply Original Report

>Choosing between flamethrower and fire blast
>flamethrower has solid, reliable damage and chance to burn
>fire blast is very powerful with a high chance to burn but not reliable--high risk, high reward
>smogon manual says go with fire blast
>take out many pokemon thanks to based 120 power
>misses at an important moment
>OMG HAX THATS FUCKIN BULLSHIT U ONLY WON BECAUSE OF THAT MISS

ITT: People you hate in competitive (please leave smogonfag vs. karenfag discussion in another thread)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:28:16 No.12761041 Report

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OU: The team

LowTax

LowTax Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:30:13 No.12761055 Report

Quoted By: >>12761067

>fire blast has a 15% chance to miss costing you the match 15% of the time
>flamethrower fails to KO the crucial targets that fire blast KOs costing you the match 100% of the time
Truly suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:31:45 No.12761067 Report

Quoted By: >>12761092

>>12761055
>wahhh I can't play without using CC or Outrage or Hydro pump
>95 base power sucks
People like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:32:18 No.12761072 Report

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>will o wisp
>70% chance to hit
>it misses 70% of the time and costs you the match 70% of the time

I swear that accuracy is closer to 50 than 70

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:32:46 No.12761075 Report

Quoted By: >>12761117

>paraflinch teams
>calling it skill
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:34:38 No.12761092 Report

Quoted By: >>12761102 >>12761129

>>12761067
>missing the point
Say I have DD Salamence, EQ plus dragon claw is working out fairly well then suddenly skarmory/ferrothorn/forretress show up. Fire blast has a chance to miss, which sucks, while flamethrower misses the KO in rain, stopping your sweep. Fire blast is the superior option

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:36:09 No.12761102 Report

Quoted By: >>12761121

>>12761092
>says missing the point
>the point in the OP is that he was a faggot for calling hax
>responds by saying FB is better than FT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:37:47 No.12761117 Report

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>>12761075

This is a good idea. Next time I play a lucker team I'm going to make a note of my skill in chat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:38:17 No.12761121 Report

Quoted By: >>12761144

>>12761102
>FT gets none of the KOs FB does, defeating the point of a fire coverage move in the first place
I'd accept getting a KO 85% of the time because of accuracy issues rather than getting a KO none of the time because of power issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:39:07 No.12761129 Report

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>>12761092
>DD Mence
>Fire Blast or Flamethrower
I shiggled

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:40:06 No.12761140 Report

Quoted By: >>12761153 >>12761174 >>12761189

But OP, you do know Flamethrower and Fire Blast both have a 10% chance to burn the foe, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:40:18 No.12761144 Report

Quoted By: >>12761290 >>12761298

>>12761121
What the actual fuck

I just called you out by saying your argument was irrelevant to the discussion, and you respond by saying the same thing.

Are you just abandoning all pretense of reading the posts you respond to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:41:34 No.12761153 Report

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>>12761140
Sorry, you're right. It was 30 in Gen I

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:42:20 No.12761159 Report

Quoted By: >>12761176 >>12761184 >>12761195

>choosing between surf and scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:43:23 No.12761174 Report

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>>12761140
This. "High chance to burn" my ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:43:30 No.12761176 Report

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>>12761159
for Vaporeon it's easy: just Scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:44:05 No.12761184 Report

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>>12761159
Any wall should automatically go with Scald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:44:42 No.12761189 Report

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>>12761140
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:45:40 No.12761195 Report

Quoted By: >>12761221

>>12761159
Surf for attackers/sweepers and Acald for bulkys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:48:50 No.12761221 Report

Quoted By: >>12761267 >>12761458

>>12761195
Most attackers/sweepers go Hydro Pump now, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:54:38 No.12761255 Report

Quoted By: >>12761259

Eh, the risky moves is what makes the decision easier. Rock Slide over Stone Edge, Flamethrower over Fire Blast, Ice Beam over Blizzard, Thunderbolt over Thunder, Dragon Claw over Outrage, Scald over Surf, and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:55:17 No.12761259 Report

Quoted By: >>12761275

>>12761255
>surf being risky

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:56:23 No.12761267 Report

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>>12761221
If they have access to it. Surf has the advantage of being an HM move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 18:57:39 No.12761275 Report

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>>12761259
Double battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 19:01:40 No.12761290 Report

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>>12761144
He just autistic. He won't stop until you let him win. Then he'll go with his mum to mcdonalds in his pokemon pj's even though he's 26

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 19:03:44 No.12761298 Report

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>>12761144
The point was that people pick the less reliablemove and then complain when it misses, which is stupid.

I pointed out that the more reliable option isn't really an option at all in some cases, and sometimes you have to use the less reliable move for the sake of KOs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 19:04:23 No.12761304 Report

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>>12761011
welcome to competitive pokemon, dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Jun 2013 19:24:29 No.12761458 Report

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>>12761221
I prefer Flamethrower and Surf over Fire Blast and Hydro Pump. I have lost battles cause of the low hit chance of the last ones, and I can deal with the lower power of Flamethrower and Surf. People don't complain about Psychic, Shadow Ball, Hidden Power...

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