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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 15:38:32 No.12770109 View View Reply Original Report

ITT: We make fan-made "canon" teams for each gen except for gen 1 because that team is actually canon.
Also team discussion general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 15:44:56 No.12770150 Report

Quoted By: >>12770174 >>12770475

As in, teams that the protagonist of each gen would have if you battled them, like with Red in Gen 2?

The obvious would be fully evolved starters for each. Gen 2 would probably also have a red Gyrados, a Wobbuffet, and maybe an Eeveelution. If you're going by Red's G/S/C team then Gold would have an Umbreon, but if you're going by Red's HG/SS team then Ethan would have an Espeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 15:47:55 No.12770174 Report

Quoted By: >>12770200

>>12770150
Do remakes supersede the originals as canon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 15:51:57 No.12770200 Report

Quoted By: >>12770219

>>12770174
They seem to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 15:54:20 No.12770219 Report

Quoted By: >>12770421 >>12770475

>>12770200
So then for Gen 2 we have
Typhlosion
Feraligatr
Meganium
Espeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 15:54:29 No.12770220 Report

Quoted By: >>12770265

>>12770109

Would we make two separate teams for Brendan and May?

But in any case, RSE would probably be Blaziken, Swampert, Sceptile, Gardevoir, Metagross, and something else. Those were just the first few that came to me as representative of that gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:01:59 No.12770265 Report

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>>12770220
Red's team is based on 3 starters from RB, Pikachu from yellow, plus event Pokemon: one of the Snorlax you can catch, the Eevee you get from Celadon Mansion, and the Lapras you get from Silph Co. Of course in Yellow, you can get the three RB starters from people in-game. The teams for each protagonist should therefore be starters + three non-legendary Pokemon you can get from in-game events. For Brendan or May, it'd be three of Castform, Kecleon, Wobbuffet, Metagross, and maybe Wobbuffet if you want to go by Emerald.

Gold/Ethan would also probably have a Togekiss.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:09:30 No.12770323 Report

Quoted By: >>12770459

After some reconsideration,
>Umbreon, Espeon, Hariyama, Skarmory, Tyranitar, Togekiss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:23:35 No.12770421 Report

Quoted By: >>12770436 >>12770448

>>12770219

Sudowoodo is pretty much in. Any EVENT Pokemon is in. Sudowoodo and Gyarados are in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:25:07 No.12770436 Report

Quoted By: >>12770475

>>12770421
Alright Gen II
>Typhlosion
>Feraligatr
>Meganium
>Sudowoodo
>Red Gyrados
>Espeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:26:53 No.12770448 Report

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>>12770421
There's more than three in-game event Pokemon though. Togepi, Lapras, Eevee, Sudowoodo, Shuckle, Tyrogue, Red Gyrados, Snorlax, another baby Pokemon, Dratini, and I'd honestly make a case for breaking the no-legendary rule and give him Suicune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:28:47 No.12770459 Report

Quoted By: >>12770485

>>12770323
Didn't he get a plusle as an important character in the game or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:31:13 No.12770475 Report

Quoted By: >>12770509 >>12770516 >>12771024

>>12770436
>>12770219
>>12770150
>giving anyone but Red all three starters
Red only got all three starters because Yellow was canon in giving him Pikachu and him picking up the other three on his journey,
In canon, Gold gets one starter, and Silver gets at the very least one of the three. If both Gold and Silver are fought in the game, how would you explain Silver just plain not having a starter despite it being a major plot device?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:35:03 No.12770485 Report

Quoted By: >>12770503

>>12770459
Not exactly gets, but Duking encourages his Plusle to travel with Wes after the rescue. I like to think that he had that team, with Plusle instead of Togekiss, until some point between defeating Evice and snagging Togetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:36:08 No.12770489 Report

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If we re-fought the BW/BW2 protagonists, wouldn't they technically automatically have to have their mascot legendaries?
You literally couldn't advance in B/W until you caught Zekrom/Reshiram. Every other game you could simply defeat them. And previous references to them, like Cynthia of Gen 4, always imply Dawn/Lucas defeated Giratina rather than capturing it. But N outright states Hilda/Hilbert has the other legendary dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:37:51 No.12770503 Report

Quoted By: >>12770546

>>12770485
I suppose you could say that.

I get Hariyama as the first one you snagged and I remember Togepi endgame sidequest thing. Tyrannitar was the last snaggable Pokemon, right? What's the relevance of Skarmory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:38:30 No.12770509 Report

Quoted By: >>12770516 >>12770517 >>12770534 >>12770575

>>12770475

He's right. Silver's obviously supposed to get Feraligatr, so Gold has Typhlosion.

Also Togepi.

Typhloision, Togetic, Gyarados, Sudowoodo, Espeon are all locks.

Last one is up in the air.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:39:25 No.12770512 Report

Quoted By: >>12770566

Gen II
>Typhlosion
>Sudowoodo
>Red Gyarados
>Togekiss
>Dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:39:42 No.12770516 Report

Quoted By: >>12770534

>>12770475
>how would you explain Silver just plain not having a starter despite it being a major plot device?
Same way they did with Blue in G/S/C and HG/SS? He has none of the starters, not even an Eeveelution from Yellow.

>>12770509
No, that's only the Pokemon Special manga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:39:48 No.12770517 Report

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>>12770509
Tyranitar because for some reason no opponent in gen II has the gen II pseudo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:41:55 No.12770534 Report

Quoted By: >>12770571

>>12770509
I'd swap out Espeon(because like 3 of the 4 protags have one already) for Extremespeed Dragonite and give him Hitmontop from the Tyrogue.

>>12770516
Except Blue was explained because none of the gym leaders used their starter Pokemon. See Cheren's memory link battle compared to any of his other battles in BW2. He still had his starter. And his old Stoutland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:44:08 No.12770546 Report

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>>12770503
He snags the Skarmory from Gonzap, and since they apparently had something of a like-father-and-son relationship before the betrayal, it seems like it would be important on a personal level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:47:07 No.12770561 Report

Quoted By: >>12770565

For Gen 3, the ensured encounters aren't even enough to make a whole team.

But then technically, the Gen 3 player should have met the Regis in canon, right?
So I propose the following

>Starter of choice
>Wobbuffet (Wynaut egg)
>Metagross (Gifted Beldum from Steven)
>Castform (Eh)
>Relicanth
>Wailord
Technically it's a decent rain team too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:47:07 No.12770562 Report

Quoted By: >>12770572 >>12770597 >>12770671 >>12771336

Ethan can have (besides his starter):
>Johto starter, Togepi, Sudowoodo, Lapras, Tyrogue, Dratini w/ Extremespeed, Red Gyarados, Shuckle (which isn't really his to begin with), (Snorlax is not mandatory to play through the game), Espeon/Umbreon, any Kanto Starter, any Hoenn Starter
Because Snorlax and Lapras aren't mandatory to play the game (plus Red already has them, let's try not to repeat here) and Shuckle can be eventually given back to its former trainer, we remain with:
>Johto starter, Togepi, Sudowoodo, Tyrogue, Dratini w/ Extremespeed, Red Gyarados, Eeveelution, Kanto starter, Hoenn starter
Let's take the Kanto starter and the Hoenn starter because Red already has Kanto starters and Ruby has a Hoenn starter (I'm not saying Ethan can't have them, let's just take them for now):
>Johto starter, Togepi, Tyrogue, Sudowoodo, Dratini w/ Extremespeed, Red Gyarados, Eeveelution
If Red has Espeon, what did Blue's Eevee evolve into? For the sake of having accordancy with the anime, let's say Umbreon. So they both each have one of the Johto Eeveelutions. So, because they both have one, let's for the time being take Eevee out of this:
>Johto starter, Togepi, Tyrogue, Sudowoodo, Red Gyarados, Dratini w/ Extremespeed
That's six dudes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:47:52 No.12770565 Report

Quoted By: >>12770589

>>12770561
Why no Kecleon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:47:59 No.12770566 Report

Quoted By: >>12771068

>>12770512
why dragonite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:48:27 No.12770571 Report

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>>12770534
With other gym leaders you could make that case since they need to match up with their gym type, like Cheren, but Blue has no gym type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:48:42 No.12770572 Report

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>>12770562
I'm alright with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:49:04 No.12770575 Report

Quoted By: >>12770582

>>12770509
Red already has Espeon. Can't we just take the Eeveelution and put Tyrogue and Dratini instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:49:59 No.12770582 Report

Quoted By: >>12770587

>>12770575
Red has Lapras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:50:45 No.12770587 Report

Quoted By: >>12770593

>>12770582
He has Espeon in Gen II.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:50:47 No.12770589 Report

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>>12770565
Shit, I forgot all about it because I was just looking at Gift Pokemon and forgot about forced encounters.
And it would be really inconsistent to give Red Snorlax and Gold Sudowoodo, but not give Brendan Keckleon, huh?
Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:51:40 No.12770593 Report

Quoted By: >>12770596 >>12770612

>>12770587
He has Lapras in HGSS and B2W2. I know >remakes, but I think his appearance in B2W2 confirms Lapras instead of Espeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:52:36 No.12770596 Report

Quoted By: >>12770617

>>12770593
besides, he is the kanto champion, so i think he should have just pokemon from kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:52:45 No.12770597 Report

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>>12770562
This gives somewhat of a parallel between him and Red:

Sudowoodo with Snorlax
Gyarados with Lapras
Togepi and Pikachu

Yeah, maybe not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:54:28 No.12770606 Report

Quoted By: >>12770610

Gold team:
typlosion
togekiss
hitmontop (because its from jotho)
sudowoodo
red gyarados
tyranitar (beacuse nobody has the pseudo from johto and he should have it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:55:21 No.12770610 Report

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>>12770606
>Tyranitar for no reason
>no Extremespeed Dragonite
You done goofed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:55:38 No.12770612 Report

Quoted By: >>12770633

>>12770593
It confirms he has it, but he owns an Espeon and has been featured with one as well.

If anything it's just for the sake of not over complicating things. Because you'd have to weigh in how much more important that Eevee is than any other Pokemon, and then you'd have to weigh in which of the eeveelutions it becomes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:56:15 No.12770615 Report

Quoted By: >>12770623 >>12770633 >>12770661

So, brendan team is:
hoenn starter
kecleon
metagross
wobuffet
castform
tentacool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:56:39 No.12770617 Report

Quoted By: >>12770633

>>12770596
That makes sense, but in that case, that means that whenever there is a situation where you can pick one of two, no main character has any of those two choices.
For example, Red doesn't have a Fossil Pokémon and we know he HAS to have at least a fossil with him). He doesn't have an Eeveelution either, nor does Blue for that matter.
So, to me, it seems like a logical rule to say that any main charachter can't have a Pokémon where you have to pick between two, like Fossil Pokémon and such. Makes sense then to say Ethan can't really have an Eeveelution (besides, he already has way to many Pokemans to pick from).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:57:23 No.12770623 Report

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>>12770615
top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 16:59:09 No.12770633 Report

Quoted By: >>12770650 >>12770660 >>12770685

>>12770612
I think B2W2 sets precedent that remakes override the originals in terms of canon.

>>12770615
Don't forget the Sudowoodo from Emerald.

>>12770617
If we go by that then no one should have any starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:02:01 No.12770650 Report

Quoted By: >>12770662 >>12770717

>>12770633
no, gold already has a sudowoodo, same case with him having a snorlax because you found it too, red already has snorlax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:03:42 No.12770660 Report

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>>12770633
For the sake of it, people seem to be choosing starters based on Anime/Special canon. And most likely people would be fine with it seeing as like 80% of the merchandise shows Dawn with a Piplup, May with a Torchic, Gold with a Typhlosion, etc.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:03:48 No.12770661 Report

Quoted By: >>12774401

>>12770615
tentacool is found in:

> Route 128, Ever Grande City (surf and Old Rod)
Sootopolis City (Old Rod)
Abandoned Ship (surfing and fishing)
Slateport City, Pacifidlog Town, Mossdeep City, Lilycove City, Dewford Town, Shoal Cave, Seafloor Cavern, and Routes 103, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 115, 118, 119, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, and 134 (surfing, Old Rood and Good Rod)

i dont see why he cant have one, that actually makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:03:55 No.12770662 Report

Quoted By: >>12770671 >>12770688

>>12770650
So? They're not the same Sudowoodo or Snorlax so I don't see what's wrong with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:04:43 No.12770671 Report

Quoted By:

>>12770662
no repeating, just making it more original
see >>12770562

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:06:30 No.12770685 Report

Quoted By:

>>12770633
I'm not saying that it doesn't override the canon. I'm saying that doesn't mean that he hasn't been featured with it though. It's not like people just forget there was also another huge important NPC trainer with an Espeon before Ethan. And the overcomplication bit still applies since a few of us have said Umbreon over Espeon.

Then again, you could even say that GF removes Espeon from Red so that Gold can use Espeon to represent Johto or something and that would actually make a lot of sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:06:53 No.12770688 Report

Quoted By: >>12770717

>>12770662
We excluded Snorlax from Ethan because you don't have to catch one to play through the game, but mainly because Red already has one.
Same thing with Ruby and Sudowoodo: it's not necessary to have one to play through the game, and Ethan already have one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:07:34 No.12770696 Report

Quoted By: >>12770720 >>12770721

For Lucas/Dawn...
>Sinnoh starter
I'd say Torterra for Barry/Infernape, but hey
>Drifblim
Not a forced encounter, but hey. Anyway, the only path-blocking encounter I can think of were those Psyducks, and that didn't involve a battle.
>Lucario
Because Riley's egg and all.
>Glaceon
From the Eevee that Bebe gives you. Since Glaceon was introduced this gen, and would do better against Cynthia's Garchomp than Leafeon...
>Togekiss
From the egg Cynthia gives you. I don't like seeing so much repetition, but when it appears as much as it does...
>Spiritomb
Mainly because of how odd the whole sidequest is; it does get slightly set up in canon with the guy giving you the keystone.

Plus, this provides a parallel to Cynthia's team, going with the parallels that conversations seemed to draw between your journeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:11:20 No.12770717 Report

Quoted By: >>12770827

>>12770650
There's no reason why he needs to have a Sudowoodo, since he has plenty of other options. Red could also have had a Gyrados and Aerodactyl, not to mention one of the Hitmons and one of the Fossils, he just doesn't.

>>12770688
Red has plenty of Pokemon you don't need to complete the game, only Pikachu and Snorlax are needed assuming he's based on Yellow. Plus you could just faint Snorlax instead of catching it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:11:44 No.12770720 Report

Quoted By: >>12770743

>>12770696
I feel like Gen4 should have Porygon-Z, because that was added in Platinum and really helps to rep Sinnoh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:11:46 No.12770721 Report

Quoted By: >>12770811

>>12770696
I'd replace Togekiss with Blissey just because Ethan already has Togepi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:13:08 No.12770743 Report

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>>12770720
Yeah, maybe Porygon-Z instead of Spiritomb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:19:34 No.12770780 Report

Quoted By: >>12770784

Gen 5 is sort of a clusterfuck with encounters and gifts.

I guess the easiest way would be to split it into BW and BW2. But even that's still sort of retarded.

>Starter
>Elemental monkey
>Darmanitan
>Musharna
>Volcarona
>Zekrom/Reshiram?

>Starter
>Crustle
>Sawsbuck
>Zoroark
>Shiny Haxorus?
>Shiny Garchomp/Dragonite? Unused tao trio? Mandibuzz/Braviary? Jellicent?
I just don't know with these ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:20:28 No.12770784 Report

Quoted By: >>12770789

>>12770780
Why Crustle and Sawsbuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:21:19 No.12770789 Report

Quoted By: >>12770813

>>12770784
BW2 gave you a free Deerling with its hidden ability and we're apparently going for the "catch all blockade encounters" thing, which Crustle is in BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:24:26 No.12770811 Report

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>>12770721
agreed, blissey instead of togekiss for more originality and no repeating pokemons again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:24:36 No.12770813 Report

Quoted By: >>12770832

>>12770789
I see. I haven't played BW2 yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:25:57 No.12770827 Report

Quoted By: >>12770868

>>12770717
the point is, not sudowoodo in brendan because ethan already has one.
period

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:26:32 No.12770832 Report

Quoted By: >>12770839

>>12770813
however, i disagree

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:27:32 No.12770839 Report

Quoted By: >>12770881

>>12770832
Despite not playing the game? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:30:33 No.12770868 Report

Quoted By: >>12770876

>>12770827
So no Gyrados for Ethan because Red already has one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:31:58 No.12770876 Report

Quoted By: >>12770890

>>12770868
If Red was using one, yeah, we'd probably be somewhat against Red Gyarados, especially since it's a Gen 1 Pokemon.

But he's sort of not using one at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:32:43 No.12770881 Report

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>>12770839
it was just a colress refernece for teh luz

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:34:03 No.12770890 Report

Quoted By: >>12770901 >>12770905

>>12770876
And there's no guarantee that Ethan has to use a Sudowoodo, so Brendan can have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:35:53 No.12770901 Report

Quoted By: >>12770910

>>12770890
>sure, lets give the JOTHTO pokemon to the HOENN champion
gr8 b8 m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:36:27 No.12770905 Report

Quoted By: >>12770914

>>12770890
Except for the sake of this, it's much more likely that Ethan would use his Sudowoodo that's been in every single game he's been in and he uses in all of the other media than it would be that he doesn't use it.
Compared to Brendan who finds Sudowoodo after beating the E4, on the battle frontier island, not being required to fight it whatsoever, and not even slightly representing Hoenn with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:37:33 No.12770910 Report

Quoted By: >>12770914 >>12770919

>>12770901
>sure, let's give the KANTO pokemon to the JOHTO champion
>sure, let's give the JOHTO pokemon to the KANTO champion
top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:38:46 No.12770914 Report

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>>12770910
stop arguing, see this >>12770905

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:39:27 No.12770919 Report

Quoted By: >>12770929 >>12771204

>>12770910
>sure, let's give the JOHTO pokemon to the KANTO champion
Red doesn't have a single Gen 2 Pokemon, and you're literally the only one even slightly arguing for taking Sudowoodo, the Gen 2 Pokemon, away from Gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:40:21 No.12770929 Report

Quoted By: >>12770934 >>12770937 >>12770941 >>12770943 >>12770944

>>12770919
You're right, how could I have forgotten my favorite Gen 1 Pokemon Espeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:41:30 No.12770934 Report

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>>12770929
Because it's not like they entirely replaced Espeon in both of his canon appearances already or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:41:40 No.12770937 Report

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>>12770929
tecnicallly, espeon is an evolution of a kanto pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:42:06 No.12770941 Report

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>>12770929
Perhaps your thoughts were focused on a favorite gen 2 Pokémon like Lapras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:42:12 No.12770943 Report

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>>12770929
Yeah, Eevee is a pretty neat Gen 1 Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:42:13 No.12770944 Report

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>>12770929
they replaced espeon with lapras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:43:42 No.12770956 Report

Quoted By: >>12770958

Why don't you all make a team for gen 2 and one for gen 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:44:19 No.12770958 Report

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>>12770956
Because that would be sort of retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:50:46 No.12770997 Report

Quoted By: >>12771419

Ethan:
Typhlosion
Sudowoodo
Togetic/Togekiss
Hitmontop
Red Gyarados
ES Dragonite

Junichi Masuda

Junichi Masuda Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:52:47 No.12771010 Report

Quoted By: >>12771024

why dont we just give to each one the three starters, the regional bird, the regional rodent and the pseudo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:53:58 No.12771022 Report

Quoted By: >>12771029 >>12771030 >>12771031

How about this for Ethan:
Typhlosion
Togetic
Red gyarados
Sudowoodo
Celebi
Azumarill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:54:26 No.12771024 Report

Quoted By: >>12771041

>>12771010
Because see >>12770475
You'd ruin your own chance at making even more money by showing off more variety in Pokemon, and being able to sell more merchandise, Masuda. Come on, you made Pokemon, you should know this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:55:28 No.12771029 Report

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>>12771022
>celebi
>azumarill
you lost me.
What about Spiky-eared Pichu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:55:30 No.12771030 Report

Quoted By: >>12771062

>>12771022
Those last two, why are they there? That doesn't make any sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:55:43 No.12771031 Report

Quoted By: >>12771035

>>12771022
(Azumarill because of the tutorial in gen 4)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:56:27 No.12771035 Report

Quoted By: >>12771050

>>12771031
That makes even less sense.
Ethan owns it because the professor owned it? What?

Junichi Masuda

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Junichi Masuda Sun 23 Jun 2013 17:57:45 No.12771041 Report

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>>12771024
>implying me and gamefreak arent just lazy bastards
i hope seeing you in the next PWT when they all have the starters, the rodents, the birds nad the pseudos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:00:13 No.12771050 Report

Quoted By: >>12771061

>>12771035
>the professor owned it
What? I'm not talking about this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:02:26 No.12771061 Report

Quoted By: >>12771081

>>12771050
So you're saying the protagonist should have it because their opposite does?

They're pretty clearly different people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:02:34 No.12771062 Report

Quoted By: >>12771066 >>12771087

>>12771030
Celebi because it's pretty much confirmed that Ethan/Lyra went back in time to prevent Giovanni from joining the team rocket again. Although I admit it's light to put it in its team. But at least it's better than Shuckle or Hitmontop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:04:20 No.12771066 Report

Quoted By: >>12771081

>>12771062
How is it better than Hitmontop?
You outright receive Tyrogue as a gift, wherein protagonists would usually actually use those gifts because they're not ungrateful fucks. And it represents Gen 2 fantastically by turning into Tyrogue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:04:41 No.12771068 Report

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>>12770566

Extreme speed Dratini

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:07:17 No.12771081 Report

Quoted By: >>12771088

>>12771061
Well, yes. I don't see the problem with it?

>>12771066
Even though both are optional, the Celebi event affects the storyline, receiving Tyogue doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:07:48 No.12771087 Report

Quoted By: >>12771092

>>12771062
You'd have more of an argument including Suicune than Celebi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:08:05 No.12771088 Report

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>>12771081
I don't think that's necessarily cannon, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:09:33 No.12771092 Report

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>>12771087
Typhlosion
Togetic
Red gyarados
Sudowoodo
Suicune
Azumarill
then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:11:01 No.12771101 Report

Quoted By: >>12771111 >>12771116

But then what about Kris?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:12:27 No.12771111 Report

Quoted By: >>12771126

>>12771101
Silly gaijin, women don't get canonical teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:13:10 No.12771116 Report

Quoted By: >>12771126

>>12771101

Kris no longer exists.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:15:15 No.12771126 Report

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>>12771111
>>12771116

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:19:17 No.12771156 Report

Quoted By: >>12771226

For Brendan(R/S) imo, it should be like this:
>Starter
>Wobuffet
>Metagross
>Groudon/Kyogre
>Kecleon
>Feebas/Milotic(because R/S introduced contests, and of course the method to evolve it) or Wailord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:26:39 No.12771204 Report

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>>12770919
The reason why it makes sense is because Sudowoodo pops up in Gen 3, and because Gold/Ethan can afford to drop it, whereas you need to struggle to make a Gen 3 team just on in-game events and gifts. What Gen a Pokemon is from means nothing for that region. We get gym leaders, Elite 4 and champions with Pokemon from outside their gen all the time, so there's no logical reason to make that limitation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:28:10 No.12771226 Report

Quoted By: >>12771260

>>12771156
>Starter
>Wobbu
>Castform
>Keckleon
>Meta
>filler

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:30:34 No.12771260 Report

Quoted By: >>12771310

>>12771226
Forgot all about Castform. But I'm say Groudon/Kyogre because you HAVE to battle them in R/S, because you can't even battle the th gym leader until you do. You know, to stop the crazy weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:33:56 No.12771289 Report

Quoted By: >>12771299

>Pikachu, Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise, Snorlax, Lapras
>Typhlosion, Togekiss, Sudowoodo, Hitmontop, Shuckle, Red Gyarados/Extremespeed Dragonite
>Sceptile, Castform, Kecleon, Metagross, Wobbuffet, Rayquaza
>Empoleon, Lucario, Rotom, Drifblim, Porygon-Z, Giratina

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:35:37 No.12771299 Report

Quoted By: >>12771318

>>12771289
>Shuckle
>Not Suicune or Celebii

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:36:43 No.12771310 Report

Quoted By: >>12771320

>>12771260
What is it in Emerald? If Red's team is based on Yellow, then Gold, Brendan and Lucas' teams should be based on Crystal, Emerald and Platinum.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:36:51 No.12771313 Report

Quoted By: >>12771346 >>12771403 >>12771408

God dammit you guys, it's like we haven't had this thread a hundred times already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:37:12 No.12771318 Report

Quoted By:

>>12771299
>Not Espeon or Umbreon
Suicune isn't a lazy plot device like Quaza, Tina and Zekiram were, and Celebi isn't legitimately available

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:37:31 No.12771320 Report

Quoted By: >>12771335

>>12771310

Well ti wouldn't be Rayquaza because you are not required to battle it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:38:47 No.12771335 Report

Quoted By: >>12771403

>>12771320
Yeah but do you need to battle Groudon and/or Kyogre in Emerald?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:39:07 No.12771336 Report

Quoted By:

>>12770562
I approve of this.

I'll try to play the game with that team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:39:56 No.12771346 Report

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>>12771313
Add Omu/Kabu to Red's team, Rampardos/Bastiodon to what's his face's, and I guess throw in Drifblim since it's an overworld encounter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:41:44 No.12771365 Report

Quoted By:

I quite like the idea of Hilda/touko/female gen 5 protag having victini. It just seems right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:44:07 No.12771392 Report

Quoted By:

Ok I will try:

Generation II
-Typhlosion
-Togetic
-Sudowoodo
-Gyarados
-Shuckle
-Dragonite

Other candidates: Feraligatr or Meganium replacing Typhlosion, Hitmontop, Tyranitar, Smeargle (Sugimori drew Gold with one), an Eeveelution (most likely Espeon or Umbreon), Suicune, Magmar/Jynx/Electabuzz/etc with Dizzy Punch, Electrode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:45:21 No.12771403 Report

Quoted By: >>12771455

>>12771335
No, you don't. They're post-game encounters.

>>12771313
Add Giratina/Dialga/Palkia since you have to battle them in their respective games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:46:03 No.12771408 Report

Quoted By: >>12771455 >>12771525

>>12771313
>Reshiram/Zekrom
>not Kyurem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:46:29 No.12771411 Report

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I can see Gold getting an Espeon and Silver getting an Umbreon, to round out Silver's team since he only has ever used five Pokemon in the game barring the starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:48:29 No.12771419 Report

Quoted By:

>>12770997
Confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:52:33 No.12771455 Report

Quoted By: >>12771522 >>12771525

>>12771408
>>12771403
No. The point of the image (which by the way, I didn't make, but I make a point of posting it in all these threads because as far as I can tell it's the best, most compromising, and most detailed list of the protags' teams) is to show which Pokemon are explicitly caught by the protags for the sake of the story, or in the case of Red, because we know for a fact that that's the canon team. Put it this way. If Gold, Brenden, Dawn, and Hilbert showed up at the World Tournament, these are the teams they would have. You explicitly catch Reshiram/Zekrom in the story of Black/White. In fact, the post-game of BW is explicitly non-canon, as Kyurem is still in the cave by the time of BW2 and Hilbert/Hilda has gone off adventuring.
So no. Not gonna add Giratina/Dialga/Palkia just because you fight them in Gen 4 and you like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:55:39 No.12771482 Report

Quoted By: >>12771508

Typhlosion for Ethan/Gold
Swampert for Brendan
Torterra for Lucas

I find it fitting. Don't ask why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 18:58:51 No.12771508 Report

Quoted By: >>12771523 >>12771548

>>12771482
It's PokeSpe. We already know. You're not the special one person who reads it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:00:11 No.12771522 Report

Quoted By: >>12771560

>>12771455
Or you KO them. And don't assume that I fucking like them.
Dialga/Palkia/Giratina don't let you go further into the story. You know, like RESHIRAM and ZEKROM. You don't have to catch Reshiram or Zekrom either, genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:00:18 No.12771523 Report

Quoted By: >>12771567

>>12771508
>inb4 I've never even read PokeSpe I just had the idea on my own so fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:00:31 No.12771525 Report

Quoted By: >>12771546

>>12771455
For >>12771408
I was talking about BW2. Why put Reshiram/Zekrom and not Kyurem? They are all pretty much optional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:02:47 No.12771546 Report

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>>12771525
No idea. Like I said, I didn't make the image. But I'd guess it's because you get a sense of "completeness" by catching the dragon that was N's in BW2, while Kyurem is just another optional post-game legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:02:48 No.12771548 Report

Quoted By: >>12771567

>>12771508
Not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:04:22 No.12771560 Report

Quoted By: >>12771572 >>12771580 >>12771582

>>12771522
>You don't have to catch Reshiram or Zekrom either, genius.
>he's never played Black or White
Look at this man and laugh.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:05:21 No.12771567 Report

Quoted By: >>12771577

>>12771548
too late, see >>12771523

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:05:47 No.12771572 Report

Quoted By:

>>12771560
Alternatively, he filled up all 24 boxes and then defeated Reshiram/Zekrom just so he could say he did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:06:31 No.12771577 Report

Quoted By:

>>12771567
As if I give a fuck. It's not necessarily the main reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:06:39 No.12771580 Report

Quoted By:

>>12771560
I guess you never took "Gotta catch 'em all" literally and filled all you boxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:06:42 No.12771582 Report

Quoted By: >>12771586 >>12771644

>>12771560
Apparently you don't realize that if you don't have any pokeballs, you can't catch it. Genius, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:07:27 No.12771586 Report

Quoted By: >>12771606

>>12771582
>He travels without Pokeballs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:10:04 No.12771606 Report

Quoted By: >>12771621 >>12771646

>>12771586
Because I wanted a shiny one. I stored my others in my PC. You can't get it shiny at N's Castle. But I guess you couldn't understand the concept of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:11:53 No.12771621 Report

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>>12771606
>Although Zekrom has a Shiny sprite, Pokémon Black and White are programmed so that a Shiny Zekrom cannot be encountered. It shares this trait with Reshiram and Victini.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:14:43 No.12771644 Report

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>>12771582
Apparently you don't realize that if you simply faint it, the game's story doesn't progress and you have to face it again to catch it, unless you filled up your party and every single one of your boxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:14:56 No.12771646 Report

Quoted By:

>>12771606
I thought you can't store items in the PC nowadays? At least I'm pretty sure you can't in BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 19:21:55 No.12771725 Report

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If you consider the animated trailer for BW2 as canon, Nate is confirmed to have Emboar, Lucario and Arcanine in his team (Serperior confirmed for Rosa).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Jun 2013 23:52:43 No.12774401 Report

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>>12770661
Because with that logic everyone needs to have the most common water type found in their gen.

Anonymous

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Everyone has forgotten about the Spearow that is given to the players in G/S/C/ and HG/SS.

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