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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:13:23 No.12793485 View View Reply Original Report

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>I'm not afraid of no f-fairies...right?

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:15:12 No.12793501 Report

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>if the type relationships in the leak is true Scrafty will be 4x weak to Fairy

m-muh favorite Pokemon

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:16:01 No.12793513 Report

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>mfw dark is immune to fairy, contrary to the leak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:16:48 No.12793527 Report

Quoted By: >>12793583 >>12793602 >>12793605 >>12793619

>edgy kids don't believe in fairies

Dark confirmed to be immune to fairy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:20:54 No.12793583 Report

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>>12793527
oh that would be great, seeing that it's only good against 2 things right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:21:52 No.12793594 Report

Quoted By: >>12793691 >>12793732 >>12793766

Dark is likely neutral to fairy based on the footage. But if it were immune then Hydreigon wouldn't have taken any damage let alone super effective damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:22:40 No.12793602 Report

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>>12793527
>sableye is composed of two types that have no weaknesses and 4 immunities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:22:49 No.12793605 Report

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>>12793527
But remember how super effective it was towards them when fairy confirmed.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:23:57 No.12793617 Report

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>mfw fairy does not resist dragon
Nerf dragon? yeah right.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:24:20 No.12793619 Report

Quoted By: >>12793632

>>12793527
>edgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:25:38 No.12793632 Report

Quoted By: >>12793687

>>12793619
>spiteful kids who hate everything and are adamant in things being fake baby shit
>the kind of kids who were hot shit because they hated fairytales and nursery rhymes in kindergarden
sounds edgy to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:28:17 No.12793656 Report

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I feel that they'll keep Sableye and Spiritomb weaknessless. It's one of their defining features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:31:24 No.12793687 Report

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>>12793632
According to the World English Dictionary the word edgy, by definition, means tense, or nervous. Or if speaking of a musical performance or piece of writing it means having an intense or sharp quality.

It also means being informal at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:31:42 No.12793691 Report

Quoted By: >>12793701 >>12793766

>>12793594
>what is Ring Target

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:32:26 No.12793701 Report

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>>12793691
A shitty item that is never worth it.

Just hit hydreigon with another dragon, he's slow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:33:33 No.12793711 Report

Quoted By: >>12793782

>tfw grass and ice types will probably be neutral against fairy offensively and defensively
>tfw they'll continue to be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:35:16 No.12793732 Report

Quoted By: >>12793744

>>12793594
Maybe Fairy Wind is a physical attack and seeing as how Gardie has low attack it didn't ohko Hydreigon.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:36:07 No.12793744 Report

Quoted By: >>12793755

>>12793732
>fairy wind
>physical attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:37:05 No.12793755 Report

Quoted By: >>12793763

>>12793744
>Psycho Cut
>physical attack
...wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:38:01 No.12793763 Report

Quoted By: >>12793805

>>12793755
as if that's comparable. Psycho cut is a blade manifested by psychic energy.

Fairy wind is wind, like silver wind and ominous wind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:38:25 No.12793766 Report

Quoted By: >>12793774 >>12793792

>>12793594
>>12793691

We know for a fact all GF previews since DP use 0 IVs 0 EVs.

People calculated out the damage from Fairy Wind since we know the stats of Gardevoir and Hydreigon. The only way the move can do exactly 100 damage is for the move to be 4x effective, the rounding that goes off in Pokemon's damage calculations makes it so that the 2x damage won't ever lead to 100 damage. The only way that you can get 100 damage from the scenario is if the move is 4x effective.

So yes, Dark is weak to Fairy. If the rest of the leak holds true, Dark/Ghost will be weak to the Fairy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:39:24 No.12793774 Report

Quoted By: >>12793816 >>12793845

>>12793766
> The only way the move can do exactly 100 damage is for the move to be 4x effective
do we even have fairy wind's base power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:39:54 No.12793782 Report

Quoted By: >>12794205

>>12793711
I believe they will be connected. Plants and faeries are usually connected and they might not like the cold.

My prediction:
>Bug SE vs Fairy
>Fairy resists Grass
>Ice SE vs Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:40:53 No.12793792 Report

Quoted By: >>12793842

>>12793766
> the rounding that goes off in Pokemon's damage calculations makes it so that the 2x damage won't ever lead to 100
source? because I'm pretty sure you can get 100 by doubling, which is what 2x damage multipliers do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:42:18 No.12793805 Report

Quoted By: >>12793817

>>12793763
>blades formed by the mind are physical
Makes sense
>wind based attack being physical
omfg that's so retarded hurr durr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:42:56 No.12793816 Report

Quoted By: >>12793840

>>12793774
You backwards calculate the base power. There is no base power where a 2x effective fairy wind can do exactly 100 damage.

It was something like a base 20 power 4x Fairy Wind was what the move would have to be in order to do 100 damage in that scenario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:42:59 No.12793817 Report

Quoted By: >>12793874

>>12793805
But it is, based on previous cited sources within the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:45:14 No.12793840 Report

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>>12793816
I'd like to see the damage calculations

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:45:25 No.12793842 Report

Quoted By: >>12793856

>>12793792
You can't get 50 from the base damage. Since Pokemon rounds really dumb, you can only get 49 and 51 damage before SE when the random range kicks in, which means you can only get 98 and 102 damage, but not 100. A weak 4x effective move, however, CAN land on 25 damage, which 4x does 100 damage.

If it wasn't for Pokemon's retarded rounding rules, we wouldn't be able to determine this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:45:31 No.12793845 Report

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>>12793774
Most likely a quick attack variant. Gardevoir did go before Hydreigon who has higher speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:46:31 No.12793856 Report

Quoted By: >>12793896

>>12793842
Even with stab?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:48:18 No.12793874 Report

Quoted By: >>12793928

>>12793817
What I'm trying to say is, how could something formed by the mind be physical? It should be special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:51:00 No.12793896 Report

Quoted By: >>12793913

>>12793856
Yes, even with STAB.

I hate to link to the dreaded serebii forums, but it's the source of the calculations, and they're correct.

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?609685-Fairy-type-Discussion-Thread&p=16085551#post16085551

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:52:45 No.12793913 Report

Quoted By: >>12793937

>>12793896
That's impressive stuff. All the math seems to be in order as well.

Still doesn't necessarily confirm Sableye and Spiritomb will be weak to fairy though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:53:47 No.12793928 Report

Quoted By: >>12793955

>>12793874
Telekenetic. Like a chi strike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:54:38 No.12793937 Report

Quoted By: >>12793973

>>12793913
Just going off the Pokebeach rumor since it also said Fairy > Dark, that's all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:55:53 No.12793955 Report

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>>12793928
>chi strike
Then, by that logic, Focus Blast should be physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:57:06 No.12793973 Report

Quoted By: >>12793984 >>12794001

>>12793937
considering this display between Gardevoir and Hydreigon may have possibly been where they had gotten that info in the first place Pokebeach most likely knows what we've been shown, just ahead of time.

Did the leak explicitly say neutral to ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:58:10 No.12793984 Report

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>>12793973
All it did was mention weaknesses , resistances, and an immunitiy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 20:59:37 No.12794001 Report

Quoted By: >>12794015 >>12794021

>>12793973
Not explicitly.
>Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:00:13 No.12794015 Report

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>>12794001
I thought the fire/psychic resisting fairy was wishful thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:00:40 No.12794021 Report

Quoted By: >>12794043

>>12794001
Hmm. Guesses on what it's weak to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:01:08 No.12794025 Report

Quoted By: >>12794028 >>12794051 >>12794059 >>12794094

Ghost had damn well better resist/be immune to Fairy, then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:01:39 No.12794028 Report

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>>12794025
>immune
They're not going to give 1 type 3 immunities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:03:11 No.12794043 Report

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>>12794021
>It is weak to Poison and Steel

Reading comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:03:44 No.12794051 Report

Quoted By: >>12794069

>>12794025
"M-muh no weaknesses!"

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:04:15 No.12794059 Report

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>>12794025
>making 1 type immune to 3 others

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:04:39 No.12794069 Report

Quoted By: >>12794087

>>12794051
It's not even like that makes pokemon good, but it's spiritomb and sableye's defining characteristic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:06:18 No.12794087 Report

Quoted By: >>12794093 >>12794097

>>12794069
>it's spiritomb and sableye's defining characteristic.
Eelektross would like a word with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:07:08 No.12794093 Report

Quoted By: >>12794111 >>12794114

>>12794087
Eelektross is a shit and has to rely on an ability for it's immunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:07:16 No.12794094 Report

Quoted By: >>12794115

>>12794025
Why would it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:07:33 No.12794097 Report

Quoted By: >>12794103 >>12794127

>>12794087
Moldbreaker would like a word with YOU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:08:13 No.12794103 Report

Quoted By: >>12794117

>>12794097
if you're going to bring that into it scrappy would like a word with sableye and spiritomb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:09:04 No.12794111 Report

Quoted By: >>12794121

>>12794093
Sableye and Spiritomb have to rely on no one using Foresight or Odor Sleuth on it. The chances of either happening are about the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:09:14 No.12794114 Report

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>>12794093
>is given an example
>makes excuses as to why it doesn't count

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:09:20 No.12794115 Report

Quoted By: >>12794141 >>12794143

>>12794094
Why not? Ghosts could be too spooky for cute little fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:09:27 No.12794117 Report

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>>12794103
>being this stupid
mold breaker just disables abilities, your scrappy basically fucks over the basic type of the two

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:09:47 No.12794121 Report

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>>12794111
>The chances of either happening are about the same
mold breaker haxorus used EQ! is much more likely than foresight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:10:20 No.12794127 Report

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>>12794097
What is Scrappy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:11:32 No.12794141 Report

Quoted By: >>12794144

>>12794115
>cute little fairies
What is Dullahan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:11:49 No.12794143 Report

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>>12794115
Because fairies are magic, putting them inbetween etheral plane and physical planes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:12:15 No.12794144 Report

Quoted By: >>12794157

>>12794141
Not conforming to Gamefreak's definition of fairy based on the pokemon that have been revealed to be fairy type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:13:41 No.12794157 Report

Quoted By: >>12794159

>>12794144
In that case I pick Xerneas. I dare you to tell me Xerneas looks little and cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:14:09 No.12794159 Report

Quoted By: >>12794213

>>12794157
I dare you to show me that Xerneas is fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:19:43 No.12794205 Report

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>>12793782
>My prediction:
>Bug SE vs Fairy
Hell yes. Bug super effective against 4 types, weak to 2, and resistant to 2? We Fire now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jun 2013 21:20:13 No.12794213 Report

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>>12794159
The leaks say it is. So far they've been right.

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