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Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:09:22 No.12825261 View View Reply Original Report

What's the top 10 of strongest pokèmons according to lore (no in-gama fights)?
The first 2 positions are pretty obvious since we have a pokèmon god and space/time pokèmons.

1-Arceus
2-Palkia/Dialga

What's next?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:11:26 No.12825274 Report

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Clamperl

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:11:37 No.12825280 Report

Quoted By: >>12825349 >>12828143 >>12830313

>>12825261
Mewtwo over Arceus
Because SCIENCE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:12:14 No.12825290 Report

Quoted By: >>12825349 >>12827753 >>12828143

Mewtwo, genetically engineered by mankind to be the strongest ever.
And we all know science > religion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:16:58 No.12825349 Report

Quoted By: >>12825380 >>12825383 >>12825387 >>12825390 >>12827320

>>12825280
>>12825290

>Some crazed science experiment with absolutely no relevance in the grand scheme of things
>Being capable of beating the creator of reality itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:20:59 No.12825378 Report

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cherubi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:21:06 No.12825380 Report

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>>12825349
>has never studied chaos theory, analysis, nor m-theory

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:21:29 No.12825383 Report

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>>12825349
>Believing Arceus poke-propaganda
Truly, yours is life of darkness and ignorance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:22:00 No.12825387 Report

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>>12825349
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:22:18 No.12825390 Report

Quoted By: >>12825432 >>12825438

>>12825349
>arceus
>creator
>not mew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:23:44 No.12825406 Report

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itt nobody did the HGSS Arceus event

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:25:11 No.12825422 Report

Quoted By: >>12825445 >>12825448 >>12825475 >>12825504

So it's like this:
Arceus
Palkia/Dialga
Mewtwo

than?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:26:00 No.12825432 Report

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>>12825390

You actually think some possible common ancestor from South America created anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:26:17 No.12825438 Report

Quoted By: >>12825450 >>12825471

>>12825390
Mew was never called the creator of anything... Mew is the ancestor of all pokemon. The first one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:27:01 No.12825445 Report

Quoted By: >>12825457

>>12825422
Victini
Mew
Mewtwo
A shoe
Arceus
Palkia/Dialga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:27:17 No.12825448 Report

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>>12825422
forgot Giratina in the creation trio

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:27:37 No.12825450 Report

Quoted By: >>12825471 >>12825480

>>12825438
Ergo the ancestor of Arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:28:42 No.12825457 Report

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>>12825445
>victini
my nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:29:02 No.12825463 Report

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Pokèmon lore is such a retcon-fest it doesn't even make sense to think about a tier list

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:29:58 No.12825471 Report

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>>12825450
>>12825438
Mew isn't the ancestor of all Pokemon
Its DNA just contains the genetic code of them all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:30:06 No.12825473 Report

Quoted By: >>12825483

It goes like:
>slowpoke
>jinx
>ditto
>mewtwo
>zekrom
>vincinti
>ho-oh
>deoxys
>pichu
>clefairy
>arceus
>farfetch'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:30:27 No.12825475 Report

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>>12825422
Giratina should be number 2 honestly he rules his own fucking Dimension.

Arceus
Giratina
Dialga/Palkia
Zekrom/Resh/Kyurem/Original Dragon whatever
Rayquaza
Kyogre
Groudon
Mewtwo
Deoxys
Darkrai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:31:00 No.12825480 Report

Quoted By: >>12825496

>>12825450
are you high, mew was thought to be the ancestor of all known pokemon in gen 1, arceus is said to have created the poke universe.
also
>ergo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:31:16 No.12825483 Report

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>>12825473
Also, dont forget that smoochum created all pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:33:11 No.12825496 Report

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>>12825480
Arceus created jack and shit
The new legendary in Gen 6 will have created everything forever everywhere with fairy magic which is how pokemon spit fire and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:33:48 No.12825501 Report

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Top ten may be hard to say. A lot of the legends, I consider to be at the same level of power, and I certainly do not have ten tiers of them. Generally, though, Arceus and it's children (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf) supercede all other legends, although Arceus is still the top of that. Otherwise, I consider Mew and all similar legendaries to it to be the next best thing to them. Know that I placed Mewtwo as being tied to Mew, so junk similar to Mewtwo was also placed on this tier. All other legends are under them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:33:55 No.12825504 Report

Quoted By: >>12825527 >>12825533 >>12827118 >>12827276

>>12825422

Tier 0, THE God
>Arceus
Tier 1, Universal gods
>Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, possibly Unown as a group
Tier 2, Earthly gods
>Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie, possibly Regigigas in its prime going by myths
Tier 3, Local gods
>Lugia, Ho-Oh, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem
Yet-to-be-seen Tier
>Xerneas, Yveltal, Z legendary that we all know exists
Hard to judge Tier
>Celebi, Jirachi
None of these are worth half a shit lore-wise
>All the other legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:36:01 No.12825524 Report

Quoted By: >>12825580 >>12827248

I'm sure that they said that Kyurem is oficialy the strongest pokemon. Also Mewtwo> Arceus (remeber the scene when some shitty, not even fully evolved pokemon bring down arceus? And remeber the scene when a lot of Kanto powerhouses trained by said to be the strongest trainers in region atack mewtwo all at once and they can't even scratch him?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:36:16 No.12825526 Report

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>Arceus created everything
>Fairies, newly discovered
B-but Arceus works in mysterious ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:36:28 No.12825527 Report

Quoted By: >>12825551

>>12825504
>forgetting the energy creator victini.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:36:49 No.12825531 Report

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Arceus is Sinooh's creator god myth

And that means as much as ancient egyptian creator god myths

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:37:11 No.12825533 Report

Quoted By: >>12825588

>>12825504
Terrakion, Virizion, and Cobalion deserve a spot in Local Gods, and Celebi in Earthly gods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:39:35 No.12825551 Report

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>>12825527

We're talking about literal gods and reality warpers/time travelers. Energy creation doesn't mean shit. Even Kyurem in its crippled form is probably miles above Victini in that department seeing as it can fuel ice nukes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:39:46 No.12825552 Report

Quoted By: >>12827257

Arceus was god with all the plates, but now he can't use all at once, so he is NOT god. Also i find it sad that everybody seems to forget about Deoxys (who can change whenever he want) and Jirachi (who can wish whatever he want). At least we can all agree that 3 birds from kanto and 3 dogs from johto are for sure of the list

Faggot !GaybOYmIqU

Faggot !GaybOYmIqU Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:42:36 No.12825576 Report

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1- Arceus
2-4 - Girtina, Palkia, Dialga
5 - Rayquaza
6-7 - Kyorge, Groudon
8-9 - Mewtwo -Deoxys
10 - Mew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:42:59 No.12825580 Report

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>>12825524
But it was a severely weakened Arceus, because he gave away his balls or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:43:48 No.12825588 Report

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>>12825533

Ho-Oh can revive the dead and maybe create lesser legendaries, Lugia is so naturally devastating it had to isolate itself, Reshiram and Zekrom were said to have wiped out all of Unova in the past, and we saw what Kyurem was used to do to Opelucid City. Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion are just mere warriors in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jun 2013 21:56:26 No.12825664 Report

Quoted By: >>12827295

Pokemon Z will be based off of either Surtr or Jörmungandr. Either way it'll be a god killer. Arceus has met its match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:33:17 No.12827118 Report

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>>12825504
Celebi deserves Earthly or Universal with the whole time and forest thing.

I can't remember if there is lore on Mew or Deoxys, but those two fuck shit up.

I always love how Mew clowns Mewtwo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:38:27 No.12827165 Report

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unrelated to dumb thread, just posting a better picture since the one OP posted is retarded looking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:45:20 No.12827223 Report

Quoted By: >>12828463

Giratina is above Dialga/Palkia, as evidenced by Cyrus being unable to control it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:47:35 No.12827248 Report

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>>12825524
Arceus removed its immunity to some types due to it making the Jewel of Life with it's plates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:48:14 No.12827257 Report

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>>12825552
Arceus only being able to use one plate is a gameplay mechanic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:50:28 No.12827276 Report

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>>12825504
Celebi to Earthly God tier, Jirachi to (Sealed) Elder God tier, Giratina to Elder God tier, Kyurem (complete) elevated to at least Earthly God tier (supposedly the strongest creature in the world, if Regigigas gets a spot it should too).

Ancient !8Sy2rwcbyI

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Ancient !8Sy2rwcbyI Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:52:52 No.12827295 Report

Quoted By: >>12827335

>>12825664
You think some ordinary creature from that world will kill a god? Now THIS will kill a god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:56:03 No.12827320 Report

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>>12825349
Evolutionary Pokemon vs Creationism Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 00:58:34 No.12827335 Report

Quoted By: >>12827364

>>12827295
Yes. During Ragnarök Surtr killed the Freyr with one blow. And in the end Surtr's fire engulfed the earth.
Jörmungandr also killed Thor with his venom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 01:01:16 No.12827364 Report

Quoted By: >>12827386 >>12827447

>>12827335

Also Fafrnir et Odin.

It was not a good day to be a divinity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 01:04:35 No.12827386 Report

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>>12827364
Well Ragnarök literally means "end of the ruling powers" or "fate of the ruling powers" in Old Norse. Basically it was the end of the gods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 01:09:56 No.12827447 Report

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>>12827364
Don't forget about Garmr killing Tyr/Tiw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 01:42:40 No.12827753 Report

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>>12825290
>science/religion dichotomy
confirmed fedoras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 02:00:26 No.12827886 Report

Quoted By: >>12828272

GAISE WUT ABOUT GENESECT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 02:06:42 No.12827916 Report

Quoted By: >>12827995

Arceas
Dialga/Palkia/Giratina
Rayquaza
Groundon/Kyogre
Kyurem
Reshiram/Zekrom
Lugia/Ho-oh
Cresselia/Darkrai
Moltres/Articuno/Zapdos/Entei/Raikou/Suicune
Mew/Mewtwo/Genesect
Then probably Cobalion/Terrakion/Virizion/Keldeo/Heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 02:19:17 No.12827995 Report

Quoted By: >>12828289

>>12827916
Oh and also Regigigas in there too. Prob before Cobalion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 02:40:44 No.12828143 Report

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>>12825280
>>12825290
However, Arceus does not represent religion, you samefag. Religions are man-made, Arceus Is the representation on Pokemon form of the existence itself. lrn2 theology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 02:57:34 No.12828272 Report

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>>12827886
that thing is just a prehistoric bug. only when it was brought to life and given science powers was it ever known. plus no lore behind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 02:59:11 No.12828289 Report

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>>12827995
Regigigas at full power moved the continents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 03:08:12 No.12828376 Report

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With a dose of headcanon:

1-Arceus
2-4: Dialga/Palkia/Giratina
5-7: Rayquaza/Groudon/Kyogre
8: 'Original Dragon' (If it doesn't count, the rest of the Mascot Legendaries except for Kyurem as 8-11)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 03:18:51 No.12828463 Report

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>>12827223
That was because Cyrus only had two red chains, one each for Dialga and Palkia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 04:57:27 No.12829214 Report

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>>12825261
Maybe the original Kyurem, before it split into Zekrom and Reshiram.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 05:16:46 No.12829377 Report

Quoted By: >>12829455

On that note, Giratina totally rules over gravity, right?

Since it warps space and time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 05:28:47 No.12829455 Report

Quoted By: >>12830257

>>12829377
Antimatter, Masuda confirmed in some interview.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 07:46:54 No.12830257 Report

Quoted By: >>12834384

>>12829455
B-but gravity makes so much more sense

Sage

Sage Sat 29 Jun 2013 07:59:37 No.12830313 Report

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>>12825280
How about you go back reddit, okay?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 14:37:16 No.12831752 Report

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Mew contains genetic information about every pokemon
can transform into every pokemon
even arcerus
mew should tehrefore be equal, or at least second, to arcerus

inb4 hate because gen 1 pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 15:29:33 No.12832028 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2013 20:05:19 No.12834384 Report

Quoted By: >>12837317

>>12830257
No it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2013 01:30:47 No.12837317 Report

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>>12834384
But it does.

Gravity warps spacetime, If you have somebody who has control over space or time, the only fucking thing that can match it is control over gravity.

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