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Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Anonymous
Reposting for a drawfriend to pick up.
Anonymous
>>12826068 we gonna make a fire gym leader deadline?
Mapper
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I'll be working on the Waterfall cave, by the way. This is what I created for it 3 months ago.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12826134 Once I finish up the results of the water gym, and Dark is next~
Off to work now though, will get that all set up tonight.
Anonymous
Reposting this, not sure if anyone took it up or whatever
Anonymous
>>12826150 You mean the ringleader, we just need art for him
Anonymous
>>12826151 coal town map in case anyone wants to map it before the survey
Anonymous
>>12826156 aaand the industrial city
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12826155 I don't think he was ever surveyed, was he?
He's pretty much a shoe-in though, he seemed to be well-liked.
>>12826112 Still a great fucking concept.
Mapper
>>12826163 >>12826156 >>12826151 Can you post these in the respective forum threads? That way they don't get lost "in time" that easily
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
Anonymous
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>>12826174 Fair play, I made a thread for the industrial city one though. Shall do
Anonymous
>>12826183 Trenchula has 2 front sprites.
Anonymous
>>12826151 >>12826156 I can give these a try. I can only work off and on though so it might not be until later that I finish it.
Anonymous
>>12826183 >tfw still no warrior sis and bro sprites Theyre the only god damn mon I want ingame and theyre still not sprited
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12826197 I've made it a general rule that if the sprite isn't on the wiki, I don't count it.
Terra !4dLvBoNE..
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>>12826221 because they're hell to sprite
Anonymous
>>12826223 Well it's a good thing they're both on the wiki then, isnt it?
Anonymous
>>12826183 if someone wants to polish this.
Anonymous
>>12826223 It IS on the wiki.
Anonymous
>>12826245 That pose is great.
Stick it on the wiki as a WIP, i'll try something later.
Anonymous
>>12826183 shouldn't lanterns be on that now?
Anonymous
>>12826245 >>12826252 i would but someone had another decent edit on it but the dead dead hours happened. 6am east, 3am pst. and thread napped. i'll wait and see if it's posted too. give good old SNS a job.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
Anonymous
>>12826183 I can't fucking wait to use Thoraxe
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12826283 Too late already uploaded it.
Terra !4dLvBoNE..
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>>12826325 All of my agreeing
Anonymous
was feeling up to make a retrodex becuase i spent the other day digging up really old sprites to put in graveyard, for reasons. now i'm tempted to make some retros.
Anonymous
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>>12826328 it's fine. maybe it will inspire me to make it better.
Anonymous
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>>12826358 You have your eye on the Aquilor, dont you?
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
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Correct version is go!
Anonymous
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>>12826112 I like it.
>Creator makes Phlask >Phlask swells up and begins to crack as it evolves into Noxial >Noxial bursts and Fumighast comes out of it >Hideous, but wants to gain the acceptance of its creator Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12826156 I'll work on this if
>>12826216 doesn;t do so first.
>>12824928 >>12824900 Actually its the cold idol, Her clothes are just based off of a cubzero. Should I still change the hair?
>>12825851 Yes. Yes it does.
Anonymous
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Reminder to POST YOUR FINISHED SPRITES ON THE WIKI!
Anonymous
>>12826150 Did we skip the fire gym? Isn't that between dark and water?
Anonymous
Erm, I tried to draw a prevo for the poodle moths redesign I did. Is it any good? Wich one is the best?
Anonymous
>>12827012 Nope. Is the shitty new surveyor here?
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12827024 why does the one with the eyebrows turn into a girl?
Anonymous
>>12827024 poodle moth got redesigned?
Does it still have the regal looking prince/princess final evos? Or did too many people throw the term "waifu" around too much?
As for your design, that pink one is cute as fuck.
Anonymous
>>12827026 Just got home, whats up?
Sorry to that dude on the forums, had to go on an L ride real quick.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827043 Fuck this tripshit.
Anonymous
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>>12827024 I like how the lower one has legs, but I don't really like the eyebrows.
Could I see it without eyebrows? Just the round face or like.. little itty bitty antenna/ear things?
Anonymous
>>12827043 >L ride You a chicagbro?
Anonymous
>>12827028 They're the same poké, I made too versions because I don't know wich one is better. The "eyebrows" are supposed to be antennaes that looks like a bow.
>>12827031 Yep, here's the full sheet.
Anonymous
>>12827047 It's fine the mechanic left so let's get this showdown server up.
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
Dark Gym WIP.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827063 Nah I live in CT. Fuck this place.
Anonymous
>>12827070 You can fuck my bitch Tileanon.
>>12827075 Used to live Hartford actually. Shitty weather imo.
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
>>12827026 Then is this out of date/order?
Anonymous
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>>12827064 While your design is cute as fuck and I might die from diabeetus, I'm gonna miss the humanoid moths. Those had a certain unusual charm to them.
Anonymous
>>12827070 could you try making it round?os it too much of a cahnge for a gym?
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827069 I dont know how much help Ill be, Im pretty smacked.
>>12827086 Its been raining for like 2 months now.
Anonymous
>>12827087 Oh yeah. Almost positive crossroads town is bug, the lake town is fire, and cliff town is psychic/fighting
Anonymous
>>12827070 taking the big out of big top are we?
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12827064 okay, I can see that now.
perhaps it would be cool to turn that into a gener difference thing, have them higher on the head with a small dot between them to be a bow on a female, put them lower on the head and further apart to be eyebrows on the male.
the only issue I can think of that is the prevo for the male would be manlier than the evo...
Anonymous
>>12827070 I don't know the right word to describe this...
maybe throw some gold/yellow in there too?
maybe tone down the red a bit too
for a WIP it's already looking pretty good though
Anonymous
>>12827064 I'd still the bug waifu.
You can't take that away from me. Anonymous
Skele
>>12827103 Doesn't mean the gyms have to open in that order. We could make the player back track.
if we're real dicks Anonymous
>>12827064 Is the coloring a confirmed thing? Because I liked them just fluffy white.
Anonymous
>>12827117 I noticed the image for this "bug waifu" is replaced with some elegant prince and princess designs on the wiki.
Why does Poodle Moth keep having so many redesigns? Why can't it keep all of them?
Anonymous
>>12827128 Do you not take the surveys?
Anonymous
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>>12827127 But thats what we voted on. I cant remember if bug gym is backtracking or not, but I know for a fact that it tries to follow a circle
Anonymous
>>12827138 I do and I agree
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827122 I'm on now. Talk me through this shit, I dont know waht to do
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
>>12827098 Do you mean as opposed to rectangular? That might be a bit of a challenge, and personally I think it's fine with corners. I will look into it if more people speak up.
>>12827106 It's bigger than Foster's, and much bigger than DP gyms. Plus I can always add onto it.
Anonymous
>>12827144 snsurveyor right? i sent the request you didn't accept yet
Anonymous
>>12827135 Because people calling it a waifu really aggravates some people's autism.
Anonymous
>>12827138 So I'm guessing we voted them into Technicolor yawn territory?
Anonymous
>>12827143 Colors still subject to change.
Anonymous
>>12827159 Understandable, but it's a bit silly to redesign it because it was liked.
Is there a picture of how it used to look? Last I checked the threads was last year, so I barely remember anything.
Anonymous
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>>12827148 i meant like real circus tents but yeh that might become too difficult
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827151 Thats me but I didnt get anything. This is what i see
Anonymous
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>>12827162 No. He made fluffy white versions they're going to be in the surveys simply because they have been made. I was wondering why asked if it was final because this is case with every pokemon that has an alternate colour made before it's confirmed
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Anonymous
>>12827182 Dude download the program
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
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>>12827116 Gold might look nice.
I was just going off of
my recollection of the leader concept art. They were mostly black red and white, and looked really nice. Speaking of which, might a well wait for stuff to get a bit more final before taking it any further.
But consider it's place held.
Skele
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>>12827182 That's for calling landlines, ignore it.
Anonymous
>>12827182 You know you have to download the program to see the contacts and actually contact me, right?
Skele
>>12827148 I'd almost like to see a white and red version, more in tune with a real circus.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827186 >>12827190 Well fuck. It didnt say anything about that
Anonymous
>>12827200 Just download it, please.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827207 I am lol. This is harder than you think
Anonymous
>>12827214 >Downloading Skype is hard. How drunk are you, m8?
Anonymous
>>12827172 This isn't the earliest design, but it is more or less the first decent design concept. Back then it was a single-stage pokemon, too, but errything needs to be part of a line these days.
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
>>12827199 Well it is a dark circus, but damn if that doesn't look snazy.
Anonymous
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Whatever happened to the Japenese guys?
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12827220 Im not, just smoked 3 blunts of Sour though. Good shit.
Anonymous
>>12827111 I tried to merge your ideas for gender differences together. It's just that I'd like the prevo to not have any difference between male and female.
>>12827128 No, it can still change. I already posted a colorless version in another thread.
Skele
>>12827224 Love it! it's almost creepier than the all black circus imo.
Do we have Clown trainers?! and if not, WHY NOT? Anonymous
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>>12827221 This is the only moth waifu design I liked before this new redesign.
Anonymous
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>>12827235 can we have its rump be fuzzy too?
Anonymous
>>12827221 That's the one I remember, but it also had a male version at the time when I last saw it.
Still, thanks for the reminder. I miss that design.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12827235 perhaps maintain eyebrowtennae for the male? only thing I'd like to see different on the design, and I'm sure others have their opinions as well
Anonymous
Anonymous
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12827242 We have firebreathers (on unicycles), Contortionists, and illusionists. i can draw a clown though.
Also reposting the cold idol for any reason.
Anonymous
>>12827273 Always wondered why the male had a corset chest.
Anonymous
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>>12827273 That's not the same as what I mentioned, but damn that third form looks cool.
Anonymous
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>>12827289 to be honest the male looks like a female wearing a fake stache
Anonymous
>>12827273 I'm still really mad that the female is really cute but the male looks atrocious
Skele
>>12827281 Well, this is more of a carnival and less of a circus, so a Jester would be more appropriate.
Anonymous
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>>12827311 Hence the filename
Anonymous
>>12827266 So you want them to have gender difference after all?
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12827313 Not to be that guy, but circuses have ring leaders, carnivals don't.
Not that we can't blur the line I guess.
I think carnival gym would have some interesting things in it.
Anonymous
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>>12827342 Which town is that supposed to be?
>>12827331 If we go gendif I think that's spot on what it should be.
Anonymous
Skele
>>12827281 is there a trainer sprite size chart somewhere?
Anonymous
repo atoms from last thread
Anonymous
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>>12827397 Not really. Just use existing for reference.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12827331 nono, I meant on the evo, so that he doesn't lose the eyebrows he just got
Anonymous
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>>12827370 Dithering looks better in handheld consoles because of the pixel density. That's why emulators have filters.
Anonymous
>>12826112 You know what? Imma try dis.
>implying I can draw Pray to whatever it is you worship for me not to entirely destroy your dreams. This is gonna be brutal.
Anonymous
>>12827414 I think it works brilliantly. And there is still follow through.
Anonymous
I felt like Simon's arms were way too long in his sprite. How does this look?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12827313 We can combine them. Shaco it is!
Anonymous
>>12827528 Why does he look so angry?
Anonymous
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>>12827574 I just pulled the sprite off of the Wiki, I don't know.
Anonymous
>>12827399 So the Pokemon voted in to be our object is back to being another recolored animal?
Skele
>>12827562 >Shaco classic or royal colouring? Anonymous
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>>12827509 would not fap
sometimes I wonder why we started this project in the first place, if not to fill a dex with lolis and waifus
Anonymous
>>12827574 was just fixing that actually
Anonymous
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>>12827661 without smile, but nicer eyes
Anonymous
>>12827599 No. Come up with another idea. The Grass elephant and atom both suffer from being derived from a single concept, which most pokemon are not. For instance, poodle moth is a bug that also has traits of ballroom dancers, knights/fencers and princesses. Blastoise is a turtle but also a Shellfish, hence the cannons, etc.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>12827509 fair enough I guess
Anonymous
>>12827599 No, the pokemon in danger of being cut has an option of going back into being a recolored animal.
Anonymous
>>12827696 Not that guy but I wish we could come up with an abstract object foir it to based off of.
Anonymous
>>12827678 >Blastoise is a shellfish, therefore it has cannons. >mfw Anyways how is the elephant different from Pachirisu; it's animal + element
Anonymous
>>12827709 >>12827599 God knows I tried to keep it inanimate as well.
Anonymous
>>12827742 oh wow
these are so shitty
Anonymous
>>12827720 Pikachu clones are an exception. Name 5 decent Pokemon that fit that description.
Anonymous
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>>12827742 I loved the left ones.
Anonymous
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>>12827162 They weren't even surveyed yet.
Anonymous
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>>12827720 Yeah, that taked on element argument is just pure crap.
I mean, plenty of them do have a very tight connection or additional layer, but some are just elemental animals.
Anonymous
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>>12827748 hush, the grown ups are talking.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12827755 -Ponyta
-Marill
-Shaymin
-Eevee and evolutions
-Hippopotas
Anonymous
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>>12827806 Well fuck. Marrill is a stretch though.
Anonymous
>>12827792 Cyndaquil
Slugma
Torchic
Treeko
Paras
Deerling
Mareep
Electrike
Blitzle
Joltik
Anonymous
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>>12827509 This is way better and way more Pokemon-y than our current designs.
Anonymous
>>12827755 Mandibuzz
Rapidash
Honchkrow
Unfezant
Serperior
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12827845 Onix
Turtuga is literally just a turtle, love the fucker but he is the Seel of Gen 5
Sandshrew
Drillbur
If eleplant counts Sandile prolly does as well
Skrelp
Quillfish
Poocheana
Lieperd
Stunky (unless you count an ass being Incorporated into it's face)
Anonymous
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>>12827858 >adorned with skulls >pass >mafia >pass >French thingy Anonymous
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>>12826134 >>12827491 Too hard. I give up. Not inspired enough. Looks shit.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12827509 I really prefer the eyebrow/bow difference. Are you set on those colors though? As a couple other anons mentioned, I liked the regal white design. The set on the top here
>>12827170 are a lot nicer looking IMHO.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
>>12826258 i was working on a sprite for that, but never finished it...
Anonymous
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>>12827924 We can Condesa after a basic design gets approved. Peeps need to realize this.
Anonymous
>>12827945 Think it has already been sprited and is on the wiki. Even has the more recent fire bells.
Anonymous
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>>12827954 Huh. Could have sworn it was there before.
Skele
>>12827281 here's an outline for a pose. I'm trying a figure skater idea. Thoughts?
>>12827926 Excellent.
Anonymous
>>12827990 Don't think skates are a great idea. Is she only going to be located on the ice? Can she skate on the ground? Am I being to anal about this? These are things the people need to know.
Anonymous
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>>12828017 Don't think a bikini is a great idea. Is she only going to be located in the water? Can she swim on the ground? Am I being to anal about this? These are things the people need to know.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12827224 you should try making it black and red with gold piping... or strings of twinkling lights.
Skele
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>>12828040 She's also albino.
I used a dummy head to help proportions, how's the pose?
Anonymous
Guys... What hapened to that guy who hated Empoleon?
Anonymous
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>>12828057 everyone hates empoleon, so we're all still here dude
Anonymous
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>>12828057 I hate empoleon but I don't think I'm that guy
Anonymous
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>>12828057 He left Pokémon. He posted a thread saying he hated Talonflame and that he would quit Pokémon forever just because of it.
Dog !StaIqxr34U
djhotdates
Anonymous
>>12828099 yup. cut you version out there and maybe third guy will go better then us. or keep working tonight.
speaking of. where is retro-sprite page?
Anonymous
>>12828238 right here
<<<
were keeping it off the wiki (see bottom)
Anonymous
>>12828207 > woop woooop DELELELEEELDELELE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP Anonymous
I'd like to write some dex entries, but I haven't the foggiest how I'd go about it. Should I assume that all Pokémon on the wiki without dex entries are in need of them, then post proposed ones here?
Anonymous
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>>12828313 yes... preferably post them as a MS Paint image, it will make them easier to keep track of, and more people will respond.
Anonymous
>>12828207 >dem vial cries Anonymous
>>12828313 Yes the without dex entries can be filled pile them up and post in the forum here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=19 Anonymous
>>12828361 What's our character limits?
Anonymous
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>>12828420 I'm not sure honestly.
Anonymous
>>12828420 keep it under 200
Anonymous
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>>12828471 So we have 100 characters each line on two lines or what? Because we can't have words split up across lines either.
djhotdates
>>12828471 lel lel kek kek kek
>>12828298 girls love me for my kricketune impression
>>12828345 i'm glad you like them i wasn't sure if they fit the attitude of the things
Anonymous
>>12828489 >lel lel kek kek kek ?
Anonymous
>>12828530 i thought he was referring to pokemon names
Anonymous
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>>12828562 he was asking about character limits for dex entries.
Anonymous
made new art for burrmudail that closer resembles the sprite, which people seem to agree looks better than the art
Anonymous
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>>12828619 I'm gonna take the unpopular opinion and say I actually like this.
Anonymous
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>>12828619 I approve. The previous art has looked lifeless, this looks much more dynamic
Anonymous
Skele
Anonymous
STOP THE BIRD RACISM
VOTE THIS
http://strawpoll.me/140465 Anonymous
>>12828619 You know the wings are supposed to be ice right?
Even the sprite it's like that.
Anonymous
>>12828619 It looks more like a puffin now, i like it! It just needs a sugi style now.
Anonymous
>>12828677 I made the wings jaggedy, as apposed to feathers
hopefully SZ can make them more ice like
Anonymous
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>>12828670 NO FUCK YOU FAGGOT
HATE BIRDS HATE BIRDS HATE BIRDS WE SHOULD HATE BIRDS
VOTE THIS
http://strawpoll.me/140576 Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12828713 He posted a Snome sugi recently.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12827990 I like the pose, but I don't think she should be a skater, i think that should be its own class if we have it.
Anonymous
>>12828678 >>12828619 Added a little bid of sugi shading cuz I was bored
Anonymous
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>>12828619 oh shit it's starting to look like a pokemon
>>12828691 >>12828713 i could maybe do something like SZ...i've never tried but i mean...photoshop
Anonymous
>>12828733 this thing is vaguely based off the Seraphim right? 6 winged angel?
Anonymous
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>>12828761 i donno, check the wiki, I didn't draw it, just shaded it a little. never liked this guy anyway.
Anonymous
repostan idea of gijinka for something
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12828761 It's a bluffin/ice pheonix
Anonymous
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>>12828733 what are those yellow ribbons on the back? They look pretty bad can we get rid of them?
Anonymous
>>12828619 >>12828733 Burrmudail's cry must sound like a cow.
Anonymous
>>12828828 are you calling me fat?
Anonymous
>>12828838 lmao vluterist ur so fat ur fatter than my mom and a cow fusd together
Anonymous
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>>12828846 >dat retrodex entry Anonymous
so i did this super fast but i think with a bit of practice i could do some sugi shading
Anonymous
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>>12828290 yeah thanks. will bookmark it or something. (think my drive will keep track for me)
added 3 sprites.
Anonymous
>>12827232 sns co formed for good taste in buda
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12828761 >>12828804 It's based on the snowy egret.
Anonymous
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>>12828999 alright i'll work on more tomorrow
Anonymous
>>12828802 it can be whatever you want anon
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12828989 Fuck yes. Who stoner here?
Anonymous
>>12829220 You're going to hell you heathen, jesus have murcy on yor sol
nah, im fucking with ya, but im a straight edge faggot so you may not like me Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12829264 I dont give a fuck, whatever makes you happy bro
Anonymous
Is there any reason for keeping the original games' resolution and sprite scale?
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
Anonymous
>>12829423 >is there any reason we arent making the fights real time button mashers? Seems kinda arbitrary and needlessly restrictive. Anonymous
>>12829451 wouldn't be surprised if pokemon went moba. technically it was destined to go there someday. even NNK is semi turned based. they have to evolve someday.
Anonymous
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>>12829456 i nominate this for /vp/s stupid post of the year award
Anonymous
>>12829451 Well, no. The game is designed around the battle system. That's what makes Pokemon, Pokemon.
The graphics though, can be and have been changed for as long as the series has been. They're direct products of the limitations of the hardware they're designed to run on.
To have the graphics of the GBA games on a platform that is, for all intents and purposes, limitless in power is very arbitrarily restrictive.
You don't even need to go full on CRYSIS with the graphics either, just keep doing what you're doing, but upscale the graphics so they don't look like absolute garbage when fullscreened on a decent sized monitor. It wouldn't be that hard. Hell, it would be easier than spriting everything out, like you're doing now.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
So with the gyms I saw some confusion earlier. The order is Ice>Steel>Water>Dark>
Anonymous
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>>12829560 >>12829423 Because the kit we are using to make this game is set up that way. If you want to work on a different sort of resolution work and graphic upscaling, go right ahead.
Anonymous
>>12829560 the point is that both those ideas are terrible and implementing either would make this game not feel at all like pokemon
Anonymous
>>12829581 So then I guess this doesn't feel much like Pokemon then, huh?
Anonymous
>>12829657 that looks like a pokemon game
thats why they hardened the pixels on the outline, so it looks like pokemon
more hd does not equal better
Anonymous
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>>12826151 A little rough but this gets the idea
Anonymous
>>12829657 The difference between fourth gen and V and VI is that those two generations have a dynamic camera. Unless you go in and manually program one in, changing up the resolution and battle screen is not going to work properly.
Anonymous
was a leader chosen for steel? I know some ideas were tossed around but I'm not sure if we decided on one.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12829756 Female Industrial/Welder Worker
Daughter of a foreigner who came to Uroborus and built the city with his industry. Having two daughters, one who managed the business side of things while the other went on to take on the factory floor. Working in the factory itself, keeping her father's work alive with her trusty Magnitogre, she is a heavily Soviet-inspired steel worker, much like the city itself.
This is the official one, will need to vote on art and probably minor details and a name at a later time.
Anonymous
>>12829694 You're right. More HD doesn't always mean better.
But less HD most certainly does.
Look at some of the artwork already done.
It's fucking beautiful.
Some of the most imaginative and creative designs I've ever seen, even indirectly related to Pokemon.
These things BEG to be looked at and admired.
And you want to pidgeonhole them into a sprite smaller than a postage stamp.
You would actively hinder the efforts of, and do a great disservice to the artists for the sake of MUH NOSTALGIA? Really?
Anonymous
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>>12829752 I don't follow.
No one said anything about a dynamic camera. Just take the sprites, and make them bigger.
It would actually be a lot easier to do, because then you wouldn't have to manually sprite everything out like you're doing now. Just import the existing higher res artwork. Boom, perfect.
Anonymous
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>>12829797 >sugi art of real pokemon are beautiful >therefore we shouldnt use sprites i hate to use this as an example, but minecraft loses its charm with an hd 256x256 texture pack
so to does pokemon, and every other pixel based game
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Here is the Water Gym Leader Results.
Cameron is now the Official Gym Leader for the Water Gym!
Art/Details will be voted on at a later time.
But feel free to work on Cameron or the Steel Gym Leader in terms of art!
The next Gym Leader is the Dark Gym Leader! So get your concepts in here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=293 DEADLINE: Friday July 5th!
Anonymous
>>12829847 Wow that's kind of a shock actually..
I still hope that a Sean character is in the game though. Maybe a lifesaver trainer class or something.
Anonymous
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12829860 Actually looking at the last survey results, there is the people who like Sean, and then everyone else. And there was always multiple options splitting most of everyone else. So Sean was always winning but by this survey not the actual majority. Which is why Runoffs are held.
But this survey was actually really close, usually just a vote or two away from each other while running.
And he can still be voted on to become an NPC in game.
Anonymous
>>12829847 the problem with sean is that hes bland
honestly
>he struggles to balance his duties of a lifeguard and a gymleader fuck a dude would be getting pretty fucking stressed and yet
>he remains humble and friendly despite all of this He needs to show a LITTLE bit of being human
fuck i didnt even vote on this survey
Anonymous
>>12829563 question. I dont know if we've resolved this issue or not but it's worth asking.
Route 10 goes to Route 13, route 9 goes to route 11.
Proposed solution: The map stays as is, however, you cannot access Route 13 until you've reached the day care for whatever reason. HOWEVER, this implies route 15 and ... 16.
So, of course, they're blocked off by cliffs and jungle, so perhaps the daycare is on the bottom of a cliff, and still route 12, and route 15 is technically above it
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12829860 Sean should be a minor NPC in the game, but Ahab should have his own sidequest imo. Maybe thats how you get one of the tools (if they get voted in and thats how they are obtained)?
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12829883 I think that is what most people felt about him.
I still liked the concepts of the rain guy, but he wasn't too popular.
>>12829892 That sounds good actually, we probably don't want too much backtracking, but keeping the order you go to each town how they are numbered. I figured you might not have surf after you go through the Coastal Town so you go back to route 11 which would now be open (Routes 6 and 11 being closed off). Down to the Cave Town, then not sure where to go from there, probably have Route 12 closed off. Then we could have some sort of plot based event or something where you obtain surf and are taken back to the Coastal Town. In which you would then surf your way south down Routes 13 and 14 to the Cliff City. Then after there you make your way through the treacherous desert to the Desert Town. Up Route 15 from there, then you can continue north to the Daycare and to Route 16(Route 12 also now open). Route 18 being blocked off.
Made a quick route of how you would go. Granted this is like if you are not going on any of the side quests and going as quick as you can without going through all the routes and stuff.
Anonymous
before we we were talking about names, i ran an old survey about it, and wanted to catch everyone up:
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12830003 Actually looking back at this Route 11 is Cycling Road which means you probably would get your Bicycle after you defeat the water gym. And you would then have access to it. So that works out and gives it the reason of why Route 11 is not accessible when you first pass it.
Anonymous
>>12830030 i think the problem is color. people want a color name but purple is odd and only real color left. chartruse clover?
Anonymous
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>>12830108 if your interested, blue clover (cus we sfw) was not well liked
Anonymous
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>>12830108 >>12830030 The problem goes deeper than that, I think.
Naming it after a color is very coattail-ride-y and it shortchanges it.
Also, as it's a singular game and not one of two (or three), that hampers things too. If it was one of two, then coming up with some kind of duality would be easy! As it is, the temptation is HUGE to "add" it to an existing duality.
It's tough.
Though I am firmly of the opinion that naming it after a color would be the wrong way to go.
Anonymous
>>12829847 Be honest. Who else voted for Cameron because you thought Sean was going to be too popular anyway
Anonymous
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>>12830030 Personally, I don't think it should have a name. Seeing as how it's being made for and by /vp/, there's no need for it to have any sort of tag. Regulars of this board know precisely where to look if they want to play the latest version. Why make it a trending google search query, or a popular topic on Shitaku, Facebook etc.? Just because every other fan made game has been named doesn't mean ours should, too. Also, the more popular and discoverable it is, the easier it'll be for Nintendo to shut down DL links. Keeping from naming it would mitigate this threat.
Kirn !ZIX1K1Rn42
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namefag status: 100%
i made a topic on the forums for you all to post any ideas for names
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=320 you can just post as guest
Anonymous
>>12830220 >Who else voted for Cameron because you thought Sean was going to be too popular anyway What twisted convolution of non-logic lead you to think this was a good idea?
Anonymous
>>12830003 >no backtracking in a region thats a circle >when the biggest complaint is that Unova was too linear Dude no. Backtrack whenever necessary. Besides it creates additional spacing which will be needed for massive level gains. We could balance it out by over-leveled wilds (which are then just slightly underleveled, instead of forcing level 20s on the player who has a fully evolved starter.) and/or split paths to add to exploration.
For clarification on the last bit there, the path wouldn't be necessarily closed off the first time through it, but it wouldn't be very accessible either (as it's behind you, and out of the way). The second time, you could go back the way you came and just take a separate (originally blocked) exit OR the "new" path. Maybe even two maps for those routes, or dark grass or something to give us split encounters
Anonymous
>>12830236 I didn't think my vote would count. And I didn't hate either concept, I just couldn't decide which one because I was apathetic about the whole thing. Rather than NOT vote, I decided to give an underdog a chance.
Anonymous
Gen II evil team is going to be feminists.
Anonymous
>>12830243 >mazes are linear because you dont backtrace think about it
>>12830252 youre a problem
>>12830255 i like it, why wait to gen II, evil team isnt final
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12830243 Ah okay, that was just how I saw it as. I am not too familiar with mapping and how it should be laid out. That was just how I saw it as. If it works better with more backtracking then go for it. I normally leave all that stuff up to the mappers and people who know more about it to decide. Was just posting how I quickly thought it would be to the guy who replied to my post with the map.
Anonymous
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>>12830261 Treasure hunting explorers working for Northington works better.
Gen II will explore the duality of masculine and feminine. The evil team will be a bunch of sexy lipstick lesbians in pink tight suits who use 'cute' and 'feminine' Pokemon. They won't be explicitly feminists, but they'll be fighting for supremacy for their organization and control over the whole world.
Anonymous
>>12830252 you are the cancer
Anonymous
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>>12830299 >>12830261 Dude I just didn't care that much about who won. If I didn't vote, we'd be slightly closer together in votes right now and possibly too close.
Anonymous
>>12830264 I'm the guy who mentioned the route order anyway.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12830353 Oh well, I guess bring that up with like Draik I would think. He might know better if there is a planned route through the region or something.
Anonymous
>>12830360 BTW Clash, you mentioned gym orders that differs with what I remembered it to be. Did I miss a survey which changed it or what?
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12830362 Were they different? I don't really know with the last like four. But from what people have always said it was Foster first, then the next gym is in the industrial area which is where the steel would be, then coastal town with water. Then people had the dark gym in the cave town/underground city of lights with his like circus gym(If we go with that concept). Then after that I really am not sure, I saw someone earlier say that psy/fight was cliff and fire was in the island city so that is how I put them. I really am not sure which order the last 4 go, but I thought bug and ghost/grass were like the last two.
Anonymous
Glocto will need its BST boosted/reworked if it's going to be the third gym leader's signature. It's too weak at the moment.
Anonymous
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>>12830374 As far as I knew, the six mono-types were first and the dual-types last.
>>12830375 I'll get to it tomorrow if I have time and its not already spruced up by then
Anonymous
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12830401 Huh well with how they were surveyed that was more of well like it says a guideline. With no clear order. Would it be beneficial if I ran a survey to determine a set order?
Anonymous
>>12830407 Well, I think that could be helpful. Well - in some cases it shouldn't be necessary - Foster being first and Grass/Ghost shaman being last seems like consensus. And that survey could be viewed as outdated.
Either way, gym order is in fact essential, so leaving it just hanging should not be a thing.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12830407 Also how should the survey be set up?
I mean, Ice is pretty clear to be the first gym.
From there should I list out the other 7 gym types and people order them in which order they would like them. I can have a picture of the map there, as well as list the town you are putting each type in.
>>12830412 Okay I see, so basically 2-7 needs to be decided on. Lemme set up a mock survey and post a screenshot of it once I set it up.
I had always thought the order was finalized, in which I just went off what I heard people talking about when gym leaders were suggested and thought those must be the finalized order. This is something that should be decided on first though.
Anonymous
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>>12826046 I came by to say "Xochi" is a terrible name.
Anonymous
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Idea for Glocto stats:and it gets tail glow at level 16 according to wiki . A good comparison for special bulk would be Rhyperior (115HP/55Sp.Def), a good comparison for physical bulk would be Throh (120HP/85Def).
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Okay so does this look good?
Note that the order in which you see the gym types when you first go on the survey will be randomized for everyone. As to avoid any sort of bias on that part. You basically rank them in how you would like to see them.
If you think there would be a better way to set this up or any changes let me know! Also any sort of wording or anything different? I just quickly typed this out.
Image to large to post here so imgur link:
http://i.imgur.com/3qh0Xet.jpg Anonymous
>>12830455 looks fine to me
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12830461 Awesome, I think I will save releasing it till morning, when I wake to see any more feedback or critique on it. I am gonna head to bed now, then when I wake I will revise anything if needed and then give it out!
Nightynight thread~
Anonymous
>>12830455 I mean, you may add that Foster is decided because we are already making his gym for demo AND he is widely accepted as first leader. Other than this, sure, go for it.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12830477 Well if you look at the picture, at the question near the bottom
>http://i.imgur.com/3qh0Xet.jpg Ice and Grass/Ghost are already decided in terms of placement being the first gym and last gym respectively. Since those two are the only two that were really finalized in position.
You will only be voting on gyms 2-7 with the types being:
Water, Fire, Steel, Psychic/Fighting, Dark, Bug
Anonymous
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well you all are non-productive. so i was in paint demoing up. maybe gun or dog can start making moves on this or make something of their own for another poke.
Anonymous
>>12830494 I know, just add it to the image so people do not bitch too much.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12830508 Ah okay, will do in the morning.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12829847 there's less than 10% of difference between cameron and sean
Anonymous
>>12830635 Yep, but that was final runoff, so Cameron gets in.
Anonymous
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>>12830641 shouldnt he reach the 66 %? I mean almost half the people that voted it were against him.
Anonymous
Someone else can fix the outline and palette.
Mapper
Comments?
Anonymous
>>12830661 70 x 70 is a better resolution, actually.
Alright NOW someone else can clean it up and fix the outline
>>12830684 Is there story relevance or is it just a puzzle cave for kicks?
Anonymous
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>>12830720 >ledian is evolving Anonymous
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>>12827990 Keep her bald. I like that. It's very rare to see.
Anonymous
>>12830720 de-saturate that it burns
Mapper
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>>12830720 I believe there's no story significance. It's just a place you get to and as you get further through the story you can explore it further
Anonymous
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>>12830735 Give that darker outlines it pillow shades
Anonymous
so Cameron.
Anonymous
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>>12830754 >muh meaningful names Anonymous
>>12830754 Dave C Cameron. Master Seaman and explorer of the Deep
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12830762 >Dave C Cameron >Dive Sea Camera I like this.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
first try on water gym leader
Mapper
I think the Waterfall cave shouldn't be bigger than this for its first itteration. Do you guys agree that it is ready to be submitted?
Anonymous
>Waking up with a headache the size of Gigaard Today is gonna be one of those days.
>>12827148 >>12827224 >>12827070 I'm surprised you didn't just make a large circus tent. I mean hell, Brycen was able to make his gym in a cave. Anonymous
Mapper
Anonymous
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>>12830900 That's actually pretty good. If someone cares to draw the back sprite, I'll do the basic sprite and you can fix it up
Anonymous
>>12830878 Looks decent, but why are the different floors different colors?
Anonymous
>>12830831 >Hawaiian Shirt >Cargo Shorts >Red Hair If he was fatter this would be me.
Mapper
>>12831127 Thought it would be nice to give every floor a different theme, otherwise it might become boring if the cave gets long. It was also something done so the different floors can get associated with the different HMs more easily
Anonymous
>>12831131 >Hawaiian shirt Look closer at the design.
Anonymous
>>12831139 Makes sense, but the blue looks a bit gaudy.
Anonymous
>>12831140 I noticed it the first time, and I love it. I would call that a hawaiian shirt though, just because there really isn't another term for it.
Anonymous
>>12831140 Yeah,I noticed it the first time, it sweet. I'd still call it a Hawaiian shirt though, just because there isn't another term.
Anonymous
>>12831186 >>12831198 SHit sorry, fucking captcha has me all confused.
Mapper
>>12831175 Isn't it nice to have it a bit darker as you get deeper and then you get outside and it's light again
Anonymous
On completely unrelated note:
Anonymous
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>>12831339 Ice fang would be a perfect fit. But that's as far as it should go.
Anonymous
how are we handling the bike(s)?
Anonymous
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>>12831200 Instead of apologizing, just delete one of them.
Skele
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>>12830754 I named him Cameron after James Cameron. That's really it.
Anonymous
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>>12828207 I love your cries
Anonymous
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>>12829560 >To have the graphics of the GBA games on a platform that is We're doing gen 4 style not gen 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12830220 I voted for Cameron because Sean is boring.
Anonymous
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>>12831705 This right here.
Anonymous
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>>12831553 HEY GUYES!
BUIKES?!?!
Anonymous
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>>12830720 bleh. Thoraxe should be chopping the air instead of standing around.
Also use Scizor's red.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Closing Multiple Sprites Survey at Noon EST (A little over an hour). Vote now!
Anonymous
>>12831785 Probation and HM surveys closing at the same time too.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12831788 Here that? Get your fuckin votes in, people!
Please :3 Anonymous
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>>12831553 No idea. Be patient.
Anonymous
Staying under the limit was surprisingly easy.
Anonymous
Just noticed.
Anonymous
>>12831836 That's so bad. Don't quit your day job.
Anonymous
>>12831842 yeah it doesnt really make much sense.
Wasnt that ability made just so Marrill/Azumarill were still relevant in the power creep?
Anonymous
>>12831850 Agh. What's wrong with it?
Anonymous
>>12831858 >That shade of brown >That shitty choice of blue >Those eyes >Not a darker purple for the fist >Round edges on the headpiece What isn't wrong with it.
Anonymous
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>>12831855 I mean - it could be pretty good, it is just right now hie could be mon with roughly 640 BST and no ability. Pretty ouch for me.
I'd say his attack should be 75 max - still a lot to work with and more (?) than any of our mons, but stats from ability are slighly worse than normal stats (entertainment etc), so it would nto be that broken.
Anonymous
>>12831868 Gotcha. Gimme a sec.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12831887 >no holiquin >no magowl Anonymous
awkward version of Dave C Cameron
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12831953 Christ, you turned him into shit.
Anonymous
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>>12831953 >goggles and reading glasses Anonymous
>>12831887 But seriously would it be viable to add fairy type to the game?
Anonymous
>>12831878 >>12831868 Ok tried Claydol brown instead of Pinsir now. It's the closest to the artwork we have.
Banette instead of Haunter for the purple. It's darker so it should be a better fit.
i couldnt find a suitable blue from the official sprites so i took from the artwork and increased the saturation a bit. Not too happy about it though.
Tried to fix the eyes and headdress.
Anonymous
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>>12831956 Psh, after we finish this, gen2'll be a cakewalk.
Anonymous
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>>12831981 we've discussed this a million times.
No.
Save it for Gen 2 if it ever ends up existing.
Anonymous
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>>12831981 read the fucking OP
Anonymous
>>12831987 a little edit to add more contrast to the brown.
Anonymous
>>12831953 Is that you anonsky?
Anonymous
>>12832003 Looks much better.
Anonymous
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>>12832009 looking back on it, what the fuck was i thinking choosing pinsir brown.
Anonymous
>>12831963 Christ, you are so unpolite
>>12832004 yup
Anonymous
>>12832086 I really hope your psychic/fighting girls win they're the best ones. Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12832136 You should update them though I think one's design got got a costume change the other didn't
Anonymous
>>12832175 welp, costume is not a problem, I'm actually worry how to describe them in words.
Anonymous
>>12832205 Is english your first language?
I remember them being Hard truth and a daydreamer it was specific phrase but I really liked it.
Anonymous
>>12832221 nope - thats one of the problems
but actually I'm not sure what they're supposed to be - I was thinking about them being some kind of monks ... maybe monks of diversity or smth
Anonymous
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>>12832295 Sounds good. Twin Monk sisters with two radically different ideals.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
MULTIPLE SPRITES SURVEY RESULTS
http://i.imgur.com/Pc5dFQ6.png Winners (green) and Losers (Red) in pic related.
If someone wants to move the losers from the Sprites page to the Graveyard it would be much appreciated.
Anonymous
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>>12832585 >the Aguade I edited a dozen pixels of won hurray! seems like the voters made good decisions across all of the sprites
Anonymous
>>12832585 ARE FUCKING KIDDING THAT BERRATEL FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK
Anonymous
>>12832585 All you had to to do was the fucking syrup.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12832659 No one could tell where the berry was coming from in A. People thought it was coming out of his eye. If you could fix it and post it on the wiki, I'll throw it in a survey.
Anonymous
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>>12832673 Move*
>>12832674 I'll get the bitch to do it. Dog I mean.
Anonymous
Mapper
Anonymous
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>>12832703 You actually took the time to respond to a 2 hour old post and leave a shitty comment that's shorter than the captcha you had to type?
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Can we have a Confirmation survey on sprites that only have one sprite on the wiki? It would make things a lot easier.
Anonymous
>>12832716 Is that just the concept? Because the tiles are outdated I think
The concept is pretty good though imo
Anonymous
>>12832659 The berratle sprite just sucks period. We need to make it not just the official art
Mapper
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>>12832727 This is using the newest tileset I got from Draik yesterday.
Haven't been around for a long time due to my thesis
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12832716 Wherre is that outside area? below route 1? amd do all the entrances line up with it?
Anonymous
>>12832734 This actually a case where the official art works pretty well for an in game sprite.
I have a feeling you're just saying that simply because it is copied from the official art and not because the pose etc is bad.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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What Pokemon are going to be available in Waterfall Cave anyway?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12832585 not gonna argue about pebblosa's eye being super crappy on the winner. But the second forms arm on the winner is wa inaccurate.
Anonymous
>>12832721 Have you had a look at trainer sprites? particully the main gys
Anonymous
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>>12832716 Put em on Clash's survey proposal thing from the top
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12832804 Not really, I've been mainly focusing on Pokemon sprites. I could take a look if you want though
>>12832802 There's a new one on the wiki that needs to be voted on that I think was liked. I'll throw it in the next one.
Anonymous
>>12832785 I was saying that because it really doesnt allow much for the face, which, in my opinion is one of the main focuses a pokemon sprite should have.
that said, I made my own version of the winning aguade
>>12832585 Anonymous
>>12832802 draik, you're forgetting we have this to survey against that winner
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12832916 there you go, I did forget that.
>>12832910 he looks like he thinks he's so powerful! I love it!
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>12832910 That's amazing, really man.
The salt spikes are at slightly the wrong angle. Anonymous
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>>12832585 People bitched about plain agua but I though it was cute and was one of the only ones where his armlets looked like water wingies. Like he was getting ready to jump into a pool for the first time. That one looks more spastic imho. Oh well/
Anonymous
>>12829847 >Half of Cameron's concept is talking about his gym and pokemon... Good job guys. Real good job.
Anonymous
>>12832978 >all of Sean's concept is talking about how boring he is Oh yeah, such a great alternative.
Anonymous
>>12832978 Yes, because a boss fight should be voted on what and who he does in his free time instead.
seanfag cry more
Anonymous
>>12829847 >Cameron- A 40 year old scientist who loves deep sea archeological work. (never mind that this totally clashes with the concept for Isac)... and that's basically his whole concept.
yet Sean is the one who's considered bland.
Anonymous
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>>12833017 see
>>12829883 Sean, despite his whole gimmick is his character, HAS NO CHARACTER
Anonymous
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>>12832978 >>12833001 >>12833008 Sure is /v/ in here. Stop trying to start shit I was almost proud that there wasn't a backlash from Issac losing too.
Anonymous
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>>12833001 a great argument, if it weren't for the fact that there were better concepts proposed against both Sean and Cameron.
Anonymous
>>12832978 When will people learn that what people want is drama and motivation! The humanity!
Anonymous
superior water gym leader with character
Anonymous
>>12832978 What would you rather have in a game where you go to gyms to fight pokemon? His life story?
Anonymous
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>>12833055 ...
I remember there being too lazy fishermen proposed. Was a sexy and competent one even in the survey?
Anonymous
>>12833043 >>12833001 I don't care that Sean lost, I'm annoyed that Cameron won.
He has no character.
Full disclosure, I'm a Samfag, who also had no character, but a better gym description.
Anonymous
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>>12833058 >implying NPC gym trainers don't give you 3-7 lines per gym to build a leaders bio... >implying the fame checker wasn't a thing >implying pic related didn't happen. Anonymous
>>12833074 I'd rather a blank slate we can put personality into than a boring guy that ins intentionally boring.
Besides, he's inquisitive and adventurous with a childlike sense of wonder. He's like Bill Nye with a submarine.
Anonymous
>>12833113 too bad he isn't described that way...
but sure, we should have another leader who's life goal is to teach kids.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12833113 >Bill Nye trains water pokemon and has a submarine. That was all you had to say anon.
Anonymous
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>>12833113 >>12833074 Sorry, missed Sam part.
I would have been fine with him as well.
I've just been at defcon 3 for all the sean fans.
Anonymous
>>12833125 I guess that was the original explorer I pitched. I was shocked to see them voted on seperately as literally the only difference was signature mon. But they can be combined now.
Anonymous
what if Cameron's gym is an Aquarium, but when you get to the leader podium, his boyfriend is there to tell you he went out in his sub...
Anonymous
>>12833125 >but sure, we should have another leader who's life goal is to teach kids. That was the way Sean was turning out.
All I meant was he had that childlike gleam in his eye at sciencing, not the kid show host. So more like Neal Degrasse Tyson in a submarine
Anonymous
>>12833184 Why do we have to have a gay guy?
Anonymous
>>12833169 not without another vote. Get ready for people to write alt character interpretations of Cameron making him a homosexual sea-world worker who happens to enjoy diving on the weekends.
Anonymous
>>12833196 Because half of male people in this thread are gay. You know, self-insert.
Anonymous
>>12833196 why shouldn't we? keep in mind that "young lovers" are a canon trainer class.
Anonymous
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>>12833136 >>12833187 >Scuba Steve with no description is voted in >Becomes most interesting character within the hour Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12833218 Actually you would be surprised.
Anonymous
>>12833187 not a Sean fag, but
Sean's character was a lifeguard, just because of a proposed scene of him doing his job (talking to kids about swim safety) doesn't mean his whole character was caring for kids.
Anonymous
>>12833220 Because putting in a gay character just to have a gay character is belittling to gay people.
>look at how gay this guy is did I mention he's gay A good character is one who happens to be gay. A bad one is a character whose sexuality takes over their personality, which is all anyone has been doing with Sean.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
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>>12833212 Didn't to imply it would be as simple as that, sorry. But he's not going to stay a 3 sentence summary forever.
But I always thought it should be done like that from the beginning. Nuts and bolts first then fleshed out later. But again, IMHO
Anonymous
>>12833259 >A bad one is a character whose sexuality takes over their personality, which is all anyone has been doing with Sean. ...
no, not really.
Anonymous
>>12833285 Literally every time he's brought up someone asks how we can put his gay boyfriend into the game. It's so annoying.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12832585 I'll go clean up the sprite page now.
>>12832910 Oh! I like how you did the body! The face seems a little stretched out and the salty-horny-things are at too steep an angle.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
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>>12833334 Oh speaking of removing sprites, I've seen that a few of the old ones were removed by someone. That's fine, guys, but please remember to place old ones the Sprite Graveyard!
Anonymous
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>>12833251 Yeah, I made it sound worse than it was. I just never liked that idea as it made him a lot closer to Foster. So Cameron could hate kids for all I care.
Anonymous
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>>12831268 If that's the case, C should come last, because it's flooded with outside light. There's a faint glow for Surf zone, and it reflects off the water to be blu-ish, but if it was better lit it would still not be that deep blue.
>>12830880 Don't worry chen, at least it was Terrorcota sized
Anonymous
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>>12833320 Seanhater here, but that wasn't his whole character.
He was humble and a pillar of the community.
Problem is that's practically as boring just being gay.
Anonymous
>>12833320 putting a characters relationships in the game and allowing their relationships to take over their personality are two different things entirely...
but that's all I have left to say on the subject of Sean.
Anonymous
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>>12833237 Doesn't that mean more than half are not exclusively heterosexual? The only surprising result is that we aren't primarily female, or largely so If you made one for just tripfags, it would be different Anonymous
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>>12833381 His sexuality is at worst ONE LINE.
>Hey, trainer. Congratulations >on beating all of those trainers. >But, Sean isn't here. I'm his ... >uhh ... Roommate. He's out >on the beach, teaching kids >swimming techniques. Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12833237 where can I find the comment "other" results for this?
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12832585 SNS do you have a clean version of the Berratel that won? It's actually not on the sprite page. There's a similar one but I think it's an older version of the one that won
Anonymous
>>12833503 Clash!
Minor edits to map. Not sure where to post them.
Beach city leads to water route instead of being a dead end
And now there is an easy route that bypasses the desert (in the event desert becomes badass badlands, prolly need a path for people who don't want to die.)
Help me Clash, you're my only hope
gtg
Anonymous
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>12833503 jesus christ
I guess thanks
damn shame to see there weren't any really creative answers there.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12833537 The face is different on that one.
Anonymous
CHEN
Anonymous
>>12833503 Moose here. I clicked all of them. Enjoy. Anonymous
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>>12833503 >No subbie/dom option? :( HAHAHA Holy fuck i forgot I left a comment there.
Anonymous
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>>12833531 Oh, and came back to post this as well
now really bye.
Anonymous
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>>12833560 No.
I'm leaving soon anyway. Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12833531 ghdfughfuhgfbjf not me, ask Draik! Or someone more mapper oriented!
Granted I agree with the first part, not sure about the desert skip though. I figure that will be one of the more challenging tasks that will be required.
This can probably be something to be voted on though. And once again, ask someone who is more mapper oriented as they would have the best knowledge of going about this.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
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>>12833503 >Endangered hetero white female I laughed a little too hard at that.
Still mad there was no queer option on there Anonymous
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So do any of gents play competively?
Anonymous
>>12833546 oh, than this one.
It has desaturated colors though because I was a bad boy and copied instead of saved when I made it. (im op)
>inb4 harassing my for changing gum. Anonymous
>>12833590 Well, if the desert is designed as basically a dungeon that kills everything that enters, would make sense for a reach around. Especially if you have to get through it for plot. Although isn't there a back entrance to the desert from the sea? Could just keep it with that in mind.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
Anonymous
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I'd post the probation and HM results, but i got caught up playing conquest when i was supposed to close em, and now surveymonkey's being odd and not working.
Anonymous
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>>12832978 >implying that isnt the most important part Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12833572 >that feel when moose is into everything Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12833531 >>12833590 I know most people didn't want a way to bypass the desert, but there would be certain things in the desert that could heal you, doctors and what not.
>>12833611 perhaps if it was plot drivin, then you could go around afterwards, but. you'd still need to go back in for the fossils, oasis, etc.
Anonymous
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>>12833633 Being bi really is the GOAT orientation.
Anonymous
>>12833633 Dia pls
Pls help
pls I need you
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12833658 that's a first
what?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12833633 dia. please, you know thats not moose because moose never takes her fucking trip off
Anonymous
Skele
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>>12833698 Not a bad idea at all.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12833698 I actually really like this. You go through and see a bunch of different people. When you first went through the Water Gym Town, there is a Lifeguard, nothing special about him. After E4 in Hall of Fame, you see same Lifeguard that lives in Water Gym Town. Go back there, he isn't where you first saw him, his "roommate" is. And his "roommate" directs you to where you can find him and battle him.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12833698 I have a similar opinion of blobby bobby
why not have a survey to see if these characters culd become just characters anyway, even if they don't become ggyme leaders? there's usually one or two non-gym leader interesting characters a town, why not have the gym-leader losers get put into a minor character pool?
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>12833792 >culd fucking hell, *could
Anonymous
Lets talk about dark Leader ideas:
Anonymous
>>12833792 Fuck that noise. Bobby for ground e4
Anonymous
>>12833698 That reminds me, i gotta post this.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>12833792 fucking hell
>culd >ggyme what the fuck fingers?
>>12833807 I know, I'm voting him too, but just as a side note, losers don't have to be erased from existence because they didn't become gym leaders.
Anonymous
>>12833842 This is really good too. What if each of these characters gives you an HM or something?
Skele
>>12833877 I like that Issac gives you the Poke-Radar,
and I thoguht that Sean and the other champions would be a post game thing, so it would be too late for HMs.
What if they gave you the tools instead?
Anonymous
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Ive got maggots in my scroooootummmmmm
Anonymous
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>>12833900 >wants the tools to be post game Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>12833842 ohh, I like this
Anonymous
Should a Dark leader have access to Dilophlora/Carnibal/etc. since their final evo is Dark type, even though their prevo's aren't?
Anonymous
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>>12833935 No. We'll give him Howlequin, Cheshade, and some low class dark types and call it a day.
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>Told I don't have to come in and work today Yeah. Okay, not like I wanted to...jerks. Back to the post game.
>>12826058 Here ya go. I did as Shitty New Surveyor suggested and put the most up to date sprites on.
Anonymous
Right now we have old Foster and 40something Cameron/Dave/Watergymleader
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12833969 Can my work tell me that too today? And for the next 2 days as well... only 3 more days left at this job... so close. Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
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>>12833984 I would if I could. Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12833842 This. I like this.
Mapper
>>12832767 Yeah, it's supposed to be below it. The entrances somewhat align, not exactly the same amount of tiles but roughly yeah
Anonymous
Anonymous
I'm trying to think up dark leader ideas, but it's really hard to be "dark" without being "Edgy"
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12834131 there are a few ways, but they translate better into ghost unfortunately.
Perhaps a jester?
Anonymous
>>12833805 Genious. Not going to settle with it until I see other ideas but I won't complain about this
Mapper
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>>12833237 Nais, hey girls I'm a nice blonde guy. If you want to chat just say so ^_~
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12834120 well then it looks good for survey!
Anonymous
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>>12833842 We could do somethnig similar to the red garados in johto. Have an pokemon sitting there that you battle and can capture only once.
Anonymous
>>12834143 I mean, loong time ago I threw a joke idea of Dark leader being a clown, and his gym being inside of a car.
Anonymous
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>>12834149 I like it because it plays on the whole concept of technology and progress sometimes not being the best, and the idea of finding strength through communion with nature (pokemon), but in a subtle way that doesn't overwhelm the character.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
>>12834166 I had an idea for a Q-like character, working as a gym leader for kicks, but the common consensus seems to be superpowers aren't cool for the pokeverse, so I'll hold off on that suggestion.
Anonymous
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>>12833237 Dude, look at the size of that "heterosexual" bar compared to the "male" bar. The only way less than half of the males are non-straight is if there are literally no non-straight females. The fact that those non-straight people aren't all concentrated in "homosexual" doesn't change much.
Anonymous
>>12832910 i made a...thing? Im not exactly thrilled with it, but its better than what we have now.
also, apparently im helping to set up the showdown server...
Anonymous
>>12832585 ok. can someone make a fix on this cowatti's nose its horrible. same with the cubzero's hideous eyes.
4chan is forcing me to post pictures. how do i stop it....?
Anonymous
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Dark leader: give it sword dance or something . One night a fire broke out. Berratel smelled it and saved his master. The rest of the people perished in the fire though, so now the caretaker took upon himself the jobs and pokemon of the others.Twist:Berratel set the fire so he could move up in the circus world. He's now the world's strongest man/bear.
Anonymous
Another "Dark Leader" concept, playing off the idea of Dark types not being evil, but being misunderstood.
Anonymous
>>12834433 What exactly is wrong with it?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12834485 If I remember correctly. the idea of a dark ringleader is official. we just dont have a character set for it.
Anonymous
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>>12834514 I posted it to the forum and made it quite explicit that she still has a circus tent for a gym, and if people really prefer the ring leader concept more then this concept will lose in the surveys anyway.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12834514 Nope. It was never voted on as official. Which is why I am now going over all of them, as was why we had to even survey Foster for the Ice gym.
Anonymous
>>12834542 Actually it was, same as Sean. I can find it should you want.
Anonymous
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>>12834488 i refreshed my settings. it was forcing me to attach pictures because it wanted me to attach my prototype backsprite i posted last night to every post. couldn't get picture off the line. it insisted wouldn't let me backspace or delete weather quick reply or even reply to other threads.
Anonymous
>>12834542 >>12834559 Errata - it was voted in, but survey said it "it is not final". So yeah, it is not OFFICIAL.
Anonymous
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>>12834559 well, we've voted out Sean, so you're argument is moot.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12834559 I know, I have them, they were voted on but not fully official as the gym leader. Which is why we revoted over Sean and Foster and all of them. Those surveys didn't vote for them to be final.
I am surveying them so we can get a finalized concepts down and work on them.
Mapper
What areas are we looking to put into the next demo? I don't really feel like working on the mining town/mining cave
Anonymous
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>>12834559 >>12834570 it was more of a "high ranking place holder" than an "official concept"
Anonymous
>>12834592 work on rout 3...
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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Here you guys go:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=74&view=findpost&p=22043146 >Three basic concepts nailed down. These aren't final, if new stuff comes along it can be put to vote against these ideas but this gives us a direction to focus on. >These aren't final, if new stuff comes along it can be put to vote against these ideas but this gives us a direction to focus on. >These aren't final Anonymous
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>>12834592 The cave system interior, I think.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
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>>12834287 I like it! The pose is a little odd for a otter, but the overall quality of the sprite is much better than the one we have now!
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12834592 those, downward cave, route 2, and the lake town.
>>12834609 Route 3 wont be in the demo.
Anonymous
>>12834621 speaking of downward cave I made the first floor based on a sketch someone made yesterday. Its a little rough but it gets the idea across. I can polish it up a bit if people think it has potential
Anonymous
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>>12833935 They should match the theme. If he were a paleontologist than it would be a maybe.
Anonymous
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>>12834680 it was based on this
Anonymous
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>>12834191 Sabrina was psychic, that one leader meditated under waterfalls. It could work if done carefully.
Mapper
>>12834680 Oh yeah I was just working on that, but made it a lot bigger.
Mapper
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>>12834680 Bigger as in; compared to yours. Layout is completely the same
Anonymous
>>12834707 I thought it should be relatively small since it is a very early game cave
Mapper
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>>12834713 >>12834680 For comparison, I didn't fill it out yet since I started on it literally 10 minutes ago. If you guys think this is too big I'll leave it as is
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12834680 I'm not sure if we have sideways cave entrances that match with our tiles.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12834745 If not, you know what the solution to that problem is, right?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12834755 Tileanon to the rescue
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12834770 TOOK US FUCKING FOREVER.
Anonymous
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>>12834770 let it be known that i was not completely useless
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
So I herd we u like underwater gyms.
>>12834765 Dun-dunna-naa!
Which entrances do match for reference?
Anonymous
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>>12835174 thats...really fucking cool
can you make it look almost more sublike, or boat like?
