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>Design Revisions (For Pokemon with less then 66% approval rating) >Region details & Mapping >Names (Make sure to add your ideas to the wiki or forum!) >Sprites >Movepools, Stats & Abilities >All the rest of the dex info If you have constructive ideas for revisions, post them. If you're going to complain about the starters, don't.
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>All submissions are closed at this time! >Pokemon with Green Arrows are ready design wise to go in game, they can still be changed but your time is much better spent elsewhere. >The region is based off of South and Central America, but not everything needs to be Latin American in nature. >Yes, we are making this a game, and we're using RPG Maker to do it. >The dex has low quality images, check the wiki for better quality. >Spriters need to stop making the sprites direct copies of the art! They need to make sure they are facing the right way! > If you do not like a design give constructive criticism so we know best how to change it! >We are really trying to capture the spirit of Pokemon games. We want to make this a fun and enjoyable experience for any Pokemon player. >We are not adding Fairy Type. Clash's art folder:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g0exdjc1rdlkg4z/dZAAdIcVGB Also SZ's Sugi'ed art so far:
http://imgur.com/a/X0x8e/#0
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
PLEASE REDESIGN THE ATOM LINE IT IS IN DIRE NEED OF AN APPROVED DESIGN
Comments/Feedback for them:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jf5TB2U4QkyJQQ_jBArX9fX2YFIg9BV7c0nkfkH1Uc8/edit?pli=1 FLAIREES SURVEY
https://www.survey monkey.com/s/ 2J83DD
SHORT CONFIRMATION SURVEY:
https://www.survey monkey.com/s/ Confirmthis
Musburry Survey:
https://www.survey monkey.com/s/ LXYLX96
Gym Order Runoffs Survey
https://www.surveymon key
.com/s/ LordsOfOrder
YO EVERYBODY! you got music names? Post them Here! Draik will be surveying them in about a week.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=323 Anonymous
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
DashingHero !!jDn6qImItZZ
>>12905648 Ouch, Anon-kun, that's harsh.
Anonymous
>>12905685 How could you not know? Redesigns for it have saturated the last few threads. Check the archives or something.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12905800 or the several places in the OP
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>>12905800 I'm willing to bet that he was sarcastic about not knowing.
Anonymous
>>12905803 i like the flail although i think the version with the smile on both sides was better
>>12901889 >>12901889 this one
overall i like this direction though
Anonymous
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>>12905816 Huh, must have not seen that one.
Anonymous
here is my edit this thing reminds me of murakami artwork and i love that
Anonymous
Just a lurker popping in to ask a question. Will there be any visitors from other regions like in actual pokemon games (gym leaders as an example)?
Anonymous
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>>12905889 i don't think there will be any recognizable character from previous games
Anonymous
>"Being scared of its own reflection, it carves a mask out of bark so it can make friends among other Pokemon." Bit wierd that the lonely ghost pokemon talk about friends? How about>Known to be shy around others, a single Loneleaf can echo it's calls through the trees to seem like an entire pack.
Anonymous
are we keeping proposed species names anywhere? they are pretty scattered on the forum as far as I saw
Anonymous
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>>12905929 think some were on wiki as well.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>12905929 There's a space on the wiki too, I'm not sure where though.
Anonymous
>>12905900 Same with evo
>"It scares off people wandering in the woods to impress others, hoping they will accept it into the group." How bout
>Many travelers swear to have seen one in the wild, but their presence is often felt by those that get lost. Just thoughts. Can't sleep.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12905929 This hasn't been used in a while, but if some people dust it off it should be a good place to do it.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=221 Anonymous
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>>12905900 >>12905937 i think your point with loneleaf is valid but i think the change could be more minor. i like the first part of it.
>"Being scared of its own reflection, it carves a mask out of bark. Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12905941 ooooooohhhhhhh species names. i missed that somehow.
it would be nice if we could get them all done. i personally don't care about species names...they are often weird and ridiculous in real pokemon games.
Anonymous
>>12905659 The Flairees survey link isn't broken, it redirects to Surveymonkey homepage.
Anonymous
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>>12905929 wiki can use catagories, like a list of mon that need X and a list of mon that still need Y
I tried to figure it out a while back but was told not to screw with things I didn't understand.
Now that I'm more versed I could give it another go if people think that's a function they would like.
It would need to get updated, but that seems like a small hassle compared to actually having that stuff on file.
Anonymous
>>12905900 >>12905937 The point is that they want friends but don't have any. They're lonely Pokemon, not loner Pokemon.
Anonymous
>>12905958 If you've already taken the survey it just goes to the homepage instead. Is that the problem you are having?
Anonymous
>>12905966 When I think of nature sprits I either think of a shit ton of them like Kodama or a singular guardian like Totoro. Thought it would be cool for evo to turn from the first into the later.
Just my thoughts, rambly as the may be.
Anonymous
>>12905966 Sounds like newfags twisting a concept into what they want it to be again. Nothing special going on here.
Anonymous
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>>12905980 Sounds like you're confusing suggestions with demands. Another par for the course.
Anonymous
>>12905976 The point is that, like most other Ghost-types, they're rare. It would defeat the design gimmick of the 'mon to have it surrounded by hundreds of its kind.
Anonymous
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>>12906063 Didn't mean to have a shit load of them, although I guess that is kind of what I said. I just meant for prevo to be rare and evo to be like mythic rare. Lore wise, not game wise.
And again, I'm not trying to push any agenda.
Anonymous
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>>12906063 Why don't we make them lonely because they're so rare? They can't find others of their kind and they're shy around other species.
Anonymous
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>>12906063 I like to think that they are lonely so they huddle together. Not hundreds though obviously.
But I'm fine with that just being my headcannon.
Anonymous
>>12905966 They could be lurkers.
Wanting friends, but too shy to make contact. So they just watch from afar.
They could be the Abra of vp. Rare and quick to flee.
Anonymous
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>>12906167 YES
This is a good idea
Anonymous
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>>12906167 That's terrible.
Anonymous
>>12906167 Being quick to flee is annoying, but I certainly like the idea of them being "lurkers" and rare.
Since it means seeing them is less likely, it makes the 8th gym leaders main poke more of a surprise when you see it (even though we all know the dex, but you get the idea).
Also, had a though on the gym order. Would anyone be insterested in having a gym in town X, but you have to challenge it later? Like with Giovanni or Norman. So, the water gym needs surf to access or another gym leader could be absent until X event is solved?
Just a thought, sorry if it throws a spanner into the gym order.
Anonymous
For the gym order, is it worth dumping current concepts for those leaders? I think it will have a big effect on the area chosen. (can't remember all, feel free to post more) Fire: - Temple Preistess - Firework girl - Engineer Bug: - Researcher girl - Samurai - Tribal king kid Fight/Psy - Businessmen - Old couple - Question and anwser/riddle inspired - Posh lady and her bodyguard (type may be switched. Girl has fighting, bodyguard has psychic) - Monks Each concept has at least one design that could work in the temple. So, is it worth surveying what design people want first, then surveying where they should go? I mean, I know the odds of a temple-esque design winning when it is in an island are slim, but its just a thought.
Anonymous
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>>12906297 Fraternal twins for the Psy/Fight gym.
Anonymous
http://xous54.deviantart.com/ Maybe we could have this guy help with sugi-ing the art?
Did we reach a consensus regarding the use of 3d?
Anonymous
>>12907139 Apparently the 3d doesnt do heights, so if thats the case, fuck that noise.
Anonymous
>>12906276 >Being quick to flee is annoying Maybe you forgot what kind of game we're making. This is perfect. It also gives us an excuse to make them morbidly powerful, like Kadabra (100+ Sp. attack at level 16? All that speed? I don't care if his HP is bad that thing is a monster)
Anonymous
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>>12907301 Good point. Plus, it makes it tougher for the 8th Gym leader. Nice one.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
Good morning friends. Have some stats to talk about>Name Fawning>Height/Weight 1'06" ft / 22 lb>Dex Entry It tends to stick near thickets of bamboo or bushes for protection against predators. >Evolution Llamarsh (18)>Color Brown>Habitat ->Kind Little Deer Pokemon>Happiness ->Breeding Group Field>Steps to Hatch ->Gender Ratio 50:50
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12907493 >Name Llamarsh
>Height/Weight 3'01" ft / 115 lb
>Dex Entry Its wool keeps it warm at sub-freezing temperatures. The Uroboros people have been using it for generations.
>Evolution Buckston (32)
>Color Brown
>Habitat -
>Kind Long Neck Pokemon
>Happiness -
>Breeding Group Field
>Steps to Hatch -
>Gender Ratio 50:50
Anonymous
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>>12907493 My mom's deer, etc.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12907505 >Name Buckston
>Height/Weight 4'11" ft / 370 lb
>Dex Entry Proud of their power, they constantly battle to test their strength. It's rumored their migration herds can be seen from space.
>Evolution N/A
>Color Brown
>Habitat -
>Kind Big Horn Pokemon
>Happiness -
>Breeding Group Field
>Steps to Hatch -
>Gender Ratio 50:50
Anonymous
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>>12907493 >It tends to stick near thickets of bamboo or bushes for protection against predators. b-b-b-booooring.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12907505 Comment before I go shower and such: I feel like if it's going to be called the Long Neck Pokemon its dex entry should have something to do with that.
Anonymous
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>>12907505 >>12907511 These ones however are fucking great.
Possum
>>12907516 >The wool around its neck keeps it warm in sub-freezing temperatures. The Uroboros people have been using it for clothing for generations. How's that? A bit long?
Possum
>>12907526 I did not mean for that terrible pun, I am so sorry Anonymous
>>12907493 Try this
>When first born it is too weak to defend itself from predators, so it tends to stay near thorny bushes for protection until it joins the herd. Anonymous
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>>12907530 we all know you did
Anonymous
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>>12907531 Sounds good to me.
Anonymous
Made this a while ago, kept posting it to see if people were ok with it. One last time. Is it Wiki-able? Reasonings:>Dreamdery has no fucking place having 80 attack. There's no way that little sheep is going to hit that hard. >we need more defensive oriented mons. Especially Sp. Def ones. >BST is slightly lower because of our lolpowercreep >Dreamdery and Macabara should probably have the same BST.
Anonymous
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
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For habitat, I assume mountain correct?
>>12907526 I like it! The character limit is 200 for dex entries so this should be fine.
And don't worry I appreciate puns! >>12907531 This sounds good too!
Anonymous
>>12907556 I am okay, except for making them same BST. There is no reason for that other than muh patterns.
Anonymous
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>>12907619 Isnt that just how pairmons are?
Anonymous
If there are any mapfags or spriters I really need a few things for this route. Right now I'm basically stuck because half of the desert and cave stuff I want to use is broken.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?act=Post&CODE=02&f=22&t=326 Link because it's too big to screenshot or even post through map maker.
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
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One last question: should the gender ratio stay at 50:50 or do you think 75-female 25-male might work? I assume herds have a minimal number of males in them in real life, but don't quote me on that.
Anonymous
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>>12907628 Here are my other two routes (Only been using RPG maker for a week so they're rusty)
Both are non-cannon.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12907628 Not a bad route, but i'd rather my desert open. Try and convert that into a late game mountain path.
Anonymous
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>>12907648 The idea is there is an oasis and then a desert route. The oasis would be the open part of the desert. I tried to keep the route large and with multiple choices on direction to prevent linearity.
Anonymous
Guys, I can't wait to play our own romhack!
Sketcher
>>12907628 I think I prefer the wide-open desert. That seems to be more like a mountain or canyon path than anything. Not to mention, to my knowledge you wouldn't get a sandy desert in mountains - only after them.
I also prefer the mirage oasis to the town oasis.
Anonymous
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>>12907677 Well the idea for the sand was that it was originally a mountain face around the oasis but the wind channelled in valley through the cliffs. But hell, if people don't like it I'm happy to adapt it into a postgame route. I just find open desert routes boring.
Anonymous
>>12907674 >romhack! Also worlds laziest and slowest spriter, reporting in.
Anonymous
What's the evil team? Who will be its leader?
Anonymous
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>>12907728 To both questions: We don't know.
All that we have for now is that their main motivation is lust for gold.
Go ahead and build off that if you wanna make up something.
Possum
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>>12907720 >Laziest and slowest Surely you can't be worse than me, considering you've actually posted something.
Also, that's pretty damn good.
Anonymous
>>12907169 >>12907139 huh?
What about the artist?
Anonymous
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>>12907752 Try and contact him.
It'd be cool if he could sugi for us.
Anonymous
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>>12907556 Any more thoughts?
Anonymous
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>>12907139 I think 3d will be too much of an effort for already small number of mappers.
Anonymous
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A note for those doing desert regions. Deserts in central america aren't just vast sandy wastelands. They have a fair amount of plant life.
Sketcher
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>>12907139 Xous doesn't take requests. We'd have to commission him (if he's taking commissions) do I don't think it's an option. His guides are good, though, and art serves as a good example.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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Just a reminder to everyone: Probation for the atoms ends one week from today, so get your redesigns in now!
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>>12907720 More like broest spriter~
Do you have the updated Aroma Lady with you? Anonymous
>>12907964 This is the only one i have.
Hope it's it.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Shoot sorry guys, I linked the Flairees survey wrong
https://www.survey monkey.com/s/ 2J83DD7
I missed the 7 in the link.
So there it is, really sorry about that!
https://www.survey monkey.com/s/2J 83DD7
https://www.surveymonk ey.com/s/2J83 DD7
Flairees Survey!
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>>12907985 Nope. The one I'm looking for had some major adjustments to the legs and hands. Made it look a lot more fresh.
Anonymous
>>12908008 sorry then, i didnt make it.
Anonymous
>>12907990 Err, doc.
First question (after filter) says pick the one that you like best, but it has multiple.
Is that ok?
Anonymous
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>>12907990 I think Chameleohm looks more intimidating with great white shark attack mode eyes
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
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>>12908020 Oh...okay. Well then back to work.
Anonymous
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12908026 Pick all the ones you like best.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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I'm closing the Musburry survey tonight or tomorrow, so get your votes in now
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12905969 not that guy, but im having the same problem and i havent taken it
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Anonymous
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>>12908150 oh thanks!
>>12905659 flairees survey:
https://www.surveym onkey.c om/s/2J83DD7
Anonymous
did this last night before I fell asleep, opinions?
Anonymous
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>>12908235 Fantastic. I'm not feeling the tail though
Anonymous
>>12908235 im sorry dude, but its just so bad. its concept is bad we really need to get back to the fucking roots of this design
Anonymous
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>>12908245 The roots of the design are shit, that's why it always bombs in the surveys. It needs a new spark, whether it be this or not.
Anonymous
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>>12908235 Stop. The billowing cloud of smoke, the face and all, just stop.
Go back to the pre-voidwalker or the voidwalker and work from there
Anonymous
>>12908235 this design is literally cancer that got out of control
we really do need to go back to the roots
Anonymous
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>>12907526 Sounds like the hampster entry.
Anonymous
>>12908262 This version was best version.
Anonymous
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>>12908271 In the spirit of working together, although Im pro voidwalker, we should go back to this design amd work from here. Possible issues include the little hand cannons and the vials on its back.
Thoughts?
Anonymous
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>>12908271 that one was pretty cool. its fucking nocturne whats not to like?
Anonymous
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>>12908271 Why did people vote in that round ball of piss that we have now over this?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Do people actually like this thing? The body is Gengar. Its the most generic idea for one of the most complex concepts we have in our Dex.
Anonymous
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>>12908262 >>12908271 thanks doc anyway, I love the green and purple combination
Nuttypea
>>12908299 I personally love it... I think the vials on it's back look a little too much like smoke stacks, but otherwise I love it. It reminded me of the lord of pauldrons from broquest.
Anonymous
>>12908299 >66% of people voted it into the dex >hurr durr does anyone like it bugger off you bloody wanker
Nuttypea
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>>12908262 >this design is literally cancer that got out of control I know, but I promised I'd work on it.
Anonymous
>>12908327 >66% of people voted it into the dex But thats wrong. Its in a survey now, and according to SNS its not doing well.
>>12908319 Its every generic ghost from every video game ever.
Anonymous
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>>12908299 Meh, I think it's cute. Would like a more fierce approach perhaps though.
>>12908271 I think this deserves some of the ben10 evangelion complaints, but I'd be fine with either of them getting the go ahead.
Possum
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>>12908271 Just a warning people, this one should NOT have a tail that ends in a cloud shape, it'll look too much like the oni trio from Gen V.
Anonymous
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>>12908340 >Its every generic ghost from every video game ever. I don't think so, but I guess that's just where we'll have to differ.
Anonymous
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>>12908299 I think it looks pretty cool.
Anonymous
What if we took this.
>>12908299 gave it a little of the proportions of this
>>12908271 and gave it the personality of this
>>12908235 ?
Everybody wins.
Anonymous
>>12908340 >But thats wrong. >summerfaggotry Anonymous
>>12908299 >>12908271 I say make a mix of these two designs.
Anonymous
>>12908363 Its wrong. Its not voted into the Dex and it never got 66% in ANY survey ever. Its being surveyed NOW.
Sketcher
Opinions on where to go from here? I tried giving him a more proper body. I think I should go further with it though. So thoughts?
Anonymous
>>12908383 but what do you want saved between them? The face and arms of the tall one on the body of the current one? The Head of the current one on the body of the tall one? the tail of the tall one on the body of the current one? what exactly do you like/dislike about each design?
Anonymous
Sketcher
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>>12908393 Incorrect. It got over 66% approval in the first round (the round while we were accepting designs). It has not gotten about 66% in the redesign (this) round.
Anonymous
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>>12908395 He looks like he's in the middle of a rap battle.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908393 >>12908363 For reference, its at 54% approval in the survey right now. I'm not going more involved in the conversation than that.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12908401 I mean proportion wise, in between the more humanoid design, and more orbish design.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908431 See
>>12908421 And if anyone's curious, Basilect is at 74% and Macabra is at 70% and we're at the halfway part through the survey.
Anonymous
>>12908474 Check again. Learn to show results at the end of confirmation surveys, it helps lower TOR votes
Anonymous
>>12908299 dislike the fat and bloated feel of it. The stubby arms doesn't help
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908496 Its irrelevant with Filtration questions anyway, you'd be seeing the wrong results. I'll include them if you want though.
For reference, its pretty split 33/33/33 between which one the comments want changed.
Anonymous
>>12908521 EXACTLY its too fucking fat.
>>12908271 this is too skinny though, we need to find a good middle ground
Anonymous
>>12908526 Ehem. No it's not. There are those familiar with the answer to the question who will proxy and TOR it regardless. Show results
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12908271 Tried editing out the cannon hands.
Anonymous
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>>12908360 I like this idea. Take the current one, and make it less bloated, and give it the expression and maybe pose of the new one
Anonymous
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>>12908557 try giving it claws like the current pic.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908551 You don't understand, if someone answers the filtration question wrong their vote stays in until the end of the survey when its deleted, making what you're seeing at the time wrong.
Whatever, if you want I'll start including it from now on.
Anonymous
>>12908557 Whoops, forgot a cannon
Anonymous
>>12908591 This is for people who get it right dude.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908600 Yes, but you'd be seeing the people who got it wrong's votes too. Like I said, I can do it if you want, but know that it will be off by a margin.
Sketcher
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>>12908395 Electric cape and body?
Anonymous
>>12908633 Why not just use question logic so that people who got it wrong cant take the survey...
Sketcher
>>12908395 Cape and body?
>>12908633 Do you not use question logic?
Anonymous
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>>12908633 he's saying that people who
1) know the answer to the filtration
2) want to force unpopular designs
and
3) have access to proxys
will skew the votes regardless.
Anonymous
>>12908597 >>12908299 What makes me dislike these designs is that they've gotten to anthropomorphic for my tastes. When it was just a vial
>>12908262 it had a simple appeal as an inorganic object and I had planned to use it on my team. Now I just don't really care about it anymore.
Anonymous
>>12908647 >Do you not use question logic? based on how the flairies surveys flow, I'd say no one's using question logic.
Anonymous
>>12908697 they're no more anthro than any other ghost type.
Anonymous
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>>12908714 You always use question logic for filters. Not using it for flairees survey has always been a thought-out decision to allow everyone to have an opinion on the starters
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12908734 agfasgads
Here are the real edits.
Anonymous
>>12908722 >>12908734 This one in particular is, imo. The round one was less so, which is why I preferred it over the monster-like one. We're getting away from vials and into random-ghost-monster territory. I just don't see the point.
Possum
>>12908745 >>12908753 We could try to make the flask bits more flask-like, and less cartoony.
Example in image: more jagged edges to look like broken glass?
Actual flask tube bits?
Possum
Anonymous
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>>12908807 It might help somewhat, I just haven't ever really been fond of this design, to be honest. But if it is well-received, it is, regardless of my own opinion
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908646 Then they go back and take it again until they get it right. There's no consequence to getting it wrong. And from other surveys I've seen done, almost no one uses question logic
Anonymous
>>12908822 They cant go back in.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12908829 Sure they can. You can use a phone, iPad, laptop, etc. and do the survey fresh.
Anonymous
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12908840 The system we have now isn't perfect, but its the best we can do with what we've been given.
Like I said, I'll start including results, just know that they'll be off by a few percent.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12907964 Bloop.
Also map survey soon.
>>12907720 And this looks beautiful
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12908892 Could you do a heavywieght wrestler, maybe uses really heavy pokemon
Anonymous
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>>12908908 I miss the hand squirters. I could actually see them being used. Its the head pauldrons I think are dumb.
Anonymous
>>12908892 ... wait, is his hat on fire?
Sketcher
ATOM SURVEY
ht
tps://www.surveymonke y.co m/s/atomsg alo re
Please take it! We're on a tight deadline. The results will give artists a good direction to take.
Possum
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Anyone planning on redesigning Fumighast, before you do anything, just search for pictures of flasks. Most look boring as hell, but every now and then there are designs with three tubes coming out of the top, or crazy-shaped tubes sticking out everywhere. The guy is based on wacky chemistry/alchemy equipment, try and portray that in his design.
Anonymous
>>12909066 T and Q are supposed to be prevos. With W maybe being either.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12909060 He's a teppanyaki chef, like the ones at Benihana's. They flip things all over the place and make onion volcanoes, and even throw things into their pockets and hats
>>12909040 Drew this a loooong time ago. I can mess with it again though
Possum
>>12909066 Oi Sketchy, the image isn't loading for me
Anonymous
>>12909107 I've seen someone here do a wrestler sprite before actually. Try making it Eluchadon themed
Anonymous
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What ever happened to these guys? We still need runoffs? There are still in orange arrow land on OP. Did I miss the vote?
Sketcher
>>12909109 I don't know why that'd be. It works fine over here. Imgur won't upload it for whatever reason. Here it is:
>>12909098 Shoot. I'll switch that next survey.
Anonymous
>>12909148 I don't think we need any more specific mon trainers.
Anonymous
>>12909164 Don't forget flailmon too, uptop ITT
Sketcher
Possum
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>>12909164 Thankies
Survey done
Anonymous
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>>12907720 finally fixed the beard. also i will challenge that ranking. i have more unfinished stuff i work on every 5 days then you. :)
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12909066 missed a couple designs i like more then these. saved the ones i liked, hopefully.
Anonymous
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What i'm thinking for fumighast is
the body of
>>12908908 , but a little thicker. Keep the smokestacks on the back.
Scrap the horns and make the face more endearing like mr sloth over here
>>12908235 Maybe a similar, I'm trying to hug you pose like it too.
Sketcher
>>12909273 I was given the overall image and took a quick glance through the dropbox folder. I'll run another survey concurrently if need be. But I have to run now, I'll be back in a couple of hours.
Anonymous
I made theses crappy sketches of atoms, if someone want to work on them, feel free to use
Anonymous
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>>12909315 it's alright. was bound to be a multi survey thing.
>>12905875 this design.
Anonymous
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>>12909066 Missing a lot from the actiual redesign suggestion thread on the forum.
Anonymous
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>>12909329 I like these a lot
Anonymous
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>>12909329 i love the prevo, i think it could be turned into an evo even
the evo just looks like an ugly version so id scrap it
but work on that prevo!
Anonymous
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>>12909329 these are the best designs for them yet
Anonymous
>>12909329 >mickey mouse and pixar face Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>12909329 The prevo looks good, I'd try something different for the evo.
Anonymous
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>>12909256 not bad
>>12909487 >pixar face is that a thing?
Anonymous
>>12906167 I like this. Just like Abra, it makes it all the more rewarding when you finally get one.
Anonymous
>>12909603 Or they could just be like Mount Moon. Loneleaf is Clefairy, and Mosquito is all the damn zubats you have to get through.
Anonymous
>>12909740 no no no no no. nothing ever should have the same distribution of zubat ever.
That's a legitimate gamefreak mistake.
Anonymous
>>12909746 The jungle was always supposed to have zubat distribution of mosquitos
Anonymous
>>12909904 and im saying it shouldnt
Anonymous
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>>12909746 >landshark_aguanaut.jpg Anonymous
>>12909934 Sounds like a personal problem that you have. I highly doubt you are in the majority for this
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12909148 There's been one before, I think its on the forum.
>>12909169 yeah, I drew that guy long before any of those were made.
Anonymous
>>12909954 id say he does
there should be alot of encounters in the jungle, but they shouldnt all be the same, the jungle can be rich with many mons
Anonymous
>>12909954 So you're telling me that you people actually want an area with poor distibution and enjoy seeing the exact same pokemon over and over and over and over again?
I bet you fucking loved hoenn's waters.
We have a lot of pokemon that would work well in the jungle. Why the fuck would you want one family to show up 79% of the time?
Anonymous
>>12909969 >>12909986 I'm not saying it should be the only mon but it damn sure should be the most common encounter.
Anonymous
>>12910004 it should be most common, but sure as hell not zubat level.
As i said before, SEVENTY NINE FUCKING PERCENT encounter rate is insane and monotonous.
Anonymous
>>12905937 How about this:
"Every night it cries itself to sleep thinking "why do this happen to me? Why does every moment have to be so hard?""
Anonymous
>>12910020 How about a flat 60 then
Nuttypea
>>12909904 >>12909954 >>12909969 the intent has always been that the mosquito would be common in the jungle areas.
Anonymous
>>12910027 We should decide this when we actually get to deciding what goes in the jungle or not.
But i personally would rather something under 50%. Though it all depends on how many species are going to be there anyway.
Anonymous
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>>12910020 how about eighty?
Anonymous
>>12910025 the dex entry for Forthorn should vaguly reference the fact that it's actually 2 loneleaf standing on eachother's shoulders.
Anonymous
>>12910035 you dont think i know that?
But most common doesnt have to mean 79%
I mean did anyone actually like running into billions of zubats in mt moon?
Anonymous
>>12910039 I'd say depending on specific region of the jungle. Like on the marhs or sth, vast majority, similiar in starting areas. The deeper, the more interesting mons you encounter, though mosquitos stay 40-50% minimum all time.
Anonymous
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>>12910057 maybe the retro can lol.
Anonymous
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>>12910057 I'd rather not.
Anonymous
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>>12910070 40-50 is totally reasonable.
Anonymous
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What mons need Dex entries?
Anonymous
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>>12910057 retrodex entry away
Anonymous
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>>12910069 you're being disengenuous though, the distribution rate for zubat ranged between as little as 55% to as high as 79% in gen1.
In gen2/4 it was only between 30-50%.
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We keep getting these arguments about little things like Ditto, where/how you find Viipii, Mosquitos etc. I'm going to make a misc. survey to quell some of these arguments. Give me some things you want settled
Anonymous
>>12908299 gengar has legs and no head you fetal alcohol retard
this is one of the best designs we've ever had and a bunch of losers have been shitting on it for too long
Anonymous
>>12910270 >Where/how do you find Viipii >Do we want a Ditto in this game >If so, which Pokemon should fill that role Anonymous
>>12910280 >one of the best designs we ever had I don't hate it, but its at best just above average. And it does have some similarities in body style to Gengar
>>12910270 >Should we have a Ditto? >What should be our Ditto? Anonymous
>>12910270 do we need a ditto?
what mon would it be?
how should we obtain viipiii?
>normal encounter >rare encounter >super rare encounter (near as rare as a shiny) >hidden/special location >other task Anonymous
>>12910299 >>12910299 rare chance from egg?
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Anonymous
>>12910381 Looks good to me, can't think of anything else. Do we need to confirm Dex entries? Because a few of those have been done recently. And I can whip up some more if anyone knows of any that need doing.
Anonymous
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>>12910270 Can we have a discussion first? Someone might think that pokemon with unknown gender won't be able to breed if we don't have a Ditto clone.
Also, I think that part of the mosquitoe's concept description is that it is known as the Zubat of the jungle. Just keep that in mind.
Anonymous
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>>12910296 it has some bodily similarities to lots of pokemon because it has arms and a body. if anything it is shaped more like haunter because it fucking has no legs you retard.
Anonymous
>>12910270 1) should our game have a pokemon that serves the role of a Ditto?
2) If we do have a Ditto, which pokemon would you like to fill that role (top examples Viipii, BugWaifu, Xochi)
3) When should Viipii be encounterable? (early/mid/late/post game)
4) How should Viipii be encountered (an egg, rarely in the wild, common in a specific area, in game trade)
5) for Jungle/Swamp/Forest areas, how common would you like Mosquitoes to be? (Very common 75+%, common ~50%, not common below 30%)
Anonymous
>>12910381 this has been brought up in the last two threads and gets a decent amount of approval and no outright disdain.
Anonymous
>>12910418 Yeah, include this please.
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>>12910389 Thats too big for something like this. This is just for miscellaneous shit that can't fit in its own survey.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12910418 That falls into the category of changing the concept it was proposed and locked as pure dark type and it cannot change from that.
Anonymous
>>12910436 So let's have a vote to change that. If enough people want it to happen it should happen.
Anonymous
>>12910445 That's not it works at all.
Anonymous
>>12910436 we have changed many of our pokemons typing at many stages of this project.
are you new here or just dumb?
Anonymous
>>12910462 We never changed them after the cutoff date for new mons.
Anonymous
>>12910454 >That's not it works at all. says the retarded guy. pay no mind to this poster he doesn't know what he is talking about. changing typing is not changing the core concept. we ran surveys to change diloweeds typing like a month ago and that passed.
Nimble !bdB08On366
Taking Music Requests. Enthrall me.
Anonymous
>>12910454 That's not how it was planned, but that doesn't mean it can't change. Things should be fluid and able to be changed if the community approves of it. If you don't like that idea, fine, don't vote for it. The rest of us will.
Anonymous
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>>12910486 we changed diloweeds typing just recently
after the cutoff date
sit down nigga
Possum
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>>12910486 What?
Yes we have
Frequently
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Anonymous
>>12910500 He's wrong but that blanket statement is just as wrong.
Anonymous
>>12910491 late game route theme.
Anonymous
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>>12910517 Yeah I shouldn't have used a generalization to back my point. That's poor form. My bad.
>>12910512 Thank you.
Anonymous
>>12910500 >>12910489 >>12910462 >>12910445 ITT: people who weren't around when eleplant's typechange was proposed.
Sketcher
>>12910512 Have we already had a survey on if we should be able to add custom moves and abilities? I can't remember.
Anonymous
>>12910418 Also we should consider changing it's typing to Dark/Flying since it's acrobatic.
Anonymous
>>12910533 And you obviously werent around when diloweed/pangolash's typing was changed.
Anonymous
>>12910542 I don't see that beating Dark/Normal.
Anonymous
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>>12910533 i was here. the difference is that people simply didn't want to change the elephants typing. sit down nigga you are embarrassing yourself.
look at the fucking dex. we changed diloweeds typing like a couple weeks ago.
Anonymous
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>>12910542 jumping isn't flying tho is it
Nimble !bdB08On366
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>>12910524 Gotcha. will deliver.
Anonymous
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>>12910546 type change proposals from before the dex entry cut off date are in no way similar to type change proposals after the cutoff date.
Anonymous
>>12910536 Yes. The decision was only a few select mons
>>12910542 I know you're being cheeky but it should be able to learn the move acrobatics via TM
>>12910546 Honestly I really hate that Clash thought of the brilliant idea of linking the thread to the forums again. It's brought so many ignorant newfags
>>12910553 I don't see that being a logical suggestion at all I think he was joking or atleast I hope he was.
Sketcher
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>>12910573 Alright, thought so. Thanks.
Anonymous
Anonymous
The reason there aren't any dark/normal types is because Dark types are basically just normal types that use trickery. It's a superfluous concept to type a pokemon as Dark/Normal. Just saying.
Anonymous
>>12910553 also we should open up all the mons for discussion about retyping.
Anonymous
>>12910573 >Yes. The decision was only a few select mons no, that was for signatures.
There wasnt a decision on how many regular old custom moves and abilities should be added.
Personally i'd be ok with a similar amount as the real gens.
Anonymous
>>12910602 why do you post this creepy picture every single thread man get some new reaction images.
Anonymous
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Anyone have the results of the Signature Ability survey?
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>>12910618 Well we're having a survey about Musburry getting a custom ability and its
doing exceptionally well. Like 70 votes for and 2 votes against well Anonymous
>>12910617 was the discussion closed? all you have to do is suggest something and see what people say.
protip: people are going to tell you no 99% of the time.
Anonymous
>>12910639 >was the discussion closed? yes, the cut off date for submitting ideas for new pokemon has passed.
Changing a pokemon's typing is literally making it a new pokemon.
Anonymous
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>>12910602 I think same but it seems we are in the logical minrity here.
>>12910618 The number is far smaller than hope it would be and the more custom moves you add in RMXP the more problem it creates even if all you do is create a mirror of a move with different typing.
>>12910639 Rightfully so.
Anonymous
>>12910618 >>12910634 yeah instead of worrying about 'how many' custom moves and abilities the game should have INSTEAD you should suggest custom moves and abilities and see what people think.
the custom mursberry ability was suggested months ago and people liked it so now it's going to happen.
it's a case by case sort of situation.
Anonymous
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>>12910663 >Changing a pokemon's typing is literally making it a new pokemon. you're the only person who thinks this...which is obvious...because we have already been changing pokemon types
so please just accept that you're wrong and stop talking bullshit. you're going to confuse the other newfags.
Anonymous
>>12910666 >yeah instead of worrying about 'how many' custom moves and abilities the game should have INSTEAD you should suggest custom moves and abilities and see what people think. well yeah, that too.
I remember people responding well to acid rain and pollution as well.
There is a thread on the forums about it but it gets no exposure because lolforums and because people were sperging out before stats were "done"
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>12910623 it's better than my favorite
Sketcher
>>12910634 C..can you survey a custom ability for Royjibiv as well? It'd be a slight modification of Colour Change, so it isn't so annoying. Like changing the normal type with the weather, or depending on the dex colour of the pokemon you are facing, or their primary type or something.
Anonymous
>>12910663 Not necessarily it depends on the type you propose. Making say Nushary Water/electric makes into a new pokemon but not something Water/Normal would. (even though that's a retarded typing.). Honestly the pokemon types are fine where they are, honestly the only that would make sense is a couple of fairy types but we won't know enough about them to accomodate that
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Does anybody have any other questions they want surveyed? The survey is basically going to be
>>12910417 and
>>12910418 Anonymous
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>>12910618 our general aim has always been to as many of the moves that already exist before resorting to fucking with game mechanics by making new moves.
I reject the notion that having a swift/fireblast/and megadrain expy for every typing is good game design.
Anonymous
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>>12910689 yeah for a long time peoples response to the idea of custom abilities/moves was "lets wait until other things are done"
which happens with a lot of things. i remember the pollution ability and it seemed cool to me. i'd vote for that. new abilities are one of the things i love most about new pokemon.
Anonymous
>>12910697 >or depending on the dex colour of the pokemon you are facing this. would vote for. 10/10. all my pokedollars.
i don't know if we have the coding for that tho........
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>>12910697 Sure I'll add it. How should I word it?
Anonymous
>>12910703 i'm sure if you wait half an hour a few more arguments will spring up. the ditto thing does seem like it has gotten a lot of post count lately though.
Anonymous
>>12910717 Jesus you speak like a redditor/youtube commentor
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12910702 changing a pokemons typing effects it's weaknesses/restances, changes it's possible STAB moves, changes it's possible movepool... it turns it into a fucking whole different pokemon.
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>>12910731 Yeah I have to make a Pokemon silhouette for the filtration anyway.
Is there an easier way to make a silhouette than going into MS Paint and coloring it in black? Its tedious as fuck.
Anonymous
>>12910757 upload it to pixlr and mess with filters.
Sketcher
>>12910729 Hum.
"It has been discussed that Royjibiv should get a custom ability that would be similar to Colour Change, due to it being based off of a prism/light spectrum. Several options include:
The normal typing changing depending on dex colour of the opponent
The normal typing changing depending on the weather, or time of day
The normal typing changing depending on the primary type of the opponent
Should Royjibiv recieve a custom ability akin to those described above?"
Or something like that.
Anonymous
>>12910717 >>12910697 >wants rainbow dragon to be even harder to sprite. Anonymous
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>>12910747 Fantastic comeback 10/10 all my pokedollars XD
>>12910757 Go into PS and just use the fill tool, you barbarian
Anonymous
>>12910755 >it turns it into a fucking whole different pokemon. seriously though, are you mentally retarded? the mere fact that we have done this before should inform you that you are wrong.
Anonymous
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>>12910757 tell me what pokemon you want and i can do it in five seconds
Sketcher
>>12910757 If you send me the pokemon name via forum, I can quickly turn it to a silhouette. Or what
>>12910765 said.
>>12910770 Nothing visual would change (in my opinion, at least), just its typing. Like Kecleon.
Anonymous
>>12910772 we did it before, before the deadline for new pokemon passed.
it's like your ignoring half of the argument just to make yourself feel better.
Anonymous
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>>12910768 maybe mirrors the type of opponent it faces??
Anonymous
Just make a fucking survey for if the typeing should be able to be changed.
Anonymous
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>>12910796 >still ignoring fucking pangolash being changed 3 weeks ago Do you enjoy being retarded?
Anonymous
>>12910796 We also changed ones after.
>>12910803 >typeing >Not being able to reply to a post Straight from the JWittz video or the forum?
Anonymous
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>>12910796 >we did it before, before the deadline for new pokemon passed. >it's like your ignoring half of the argument just to make yourself feel better. and we did it after the deadline past. diloweed's type was changed after the deadline past. stop posting nigga.
It's only fair
>>12910757 Add a question before the Howlequin question asking
"Should we be allowed to vote to change the typing of confirmed pokemon?"
then for the howlequin question ask
"If we vote to change typing, Would you like Howlequine to gain a secondairy typing?"
Then in a third question
"What secondary typing, if any, would you like howlequine to gain?"
Anonymous
>>12910833 >"Should we be allowed to vote to change the typing of confirmed pokemon?" no don't do this. this is fucking retarded. we change shit if we want to and this is how it has always been. don't let newfags shit into our meatgrinder.
we LITERALLY just did this. we LITERALLY just did this.
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>>12910792 Sent. Thanks
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>>12910833 I'll gladly add those, but only if someone can confirm that we haven't done that before.
It's only fair
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>>12910792 >Nothing visual would change (in my opinion, at least), just its typing. Like Kecleon. What if all it's wings changed to the same color depending on the typing it faced, and the default (normal) would be transparent grey... That would make spritting much easier.
Anonymous
>>12910827 >Straight from the JWittz video or the forum? I just didn't bother to reply to anybody, and made a spelling error.
I've been in these threads for like 5 days now. Been on 4chan for 3 years.
Anonymous
>>12910848 >we change shit if we want to and we should have a vote to see if we want to.
Anonymous
>>12910856 we have run surveys to change pokemon typing before and after the deadline
for both confirmed and non-confirmed pokemon
that's it
Anonymous
>>12910875 but first we should vote to see if we want to vote to see if we want to
no retard we don't need another layer of voting.
we will vote to see if we want to change the typing and that is the only vote that is needed. anybody who is against changing typing in general will vote against changing it's type.
how is this so complicated for you.
Anonymous
>>12910888 >no retard we don't need another layer of voting. it would end the arguments.
that's all I have left to say about it.
Anonymous
>>12910848 You're replying to someone who actually think the subject line useful. Just think about that.
>>12910865 You read the wiki and such right? And why do you think we should have a survey for that if you have only been here 5 days. The fact you came during summer makes me wary.
>>12910879 That mon was reused twice for a filtration and I feel that you shouldn't have posted it ITT
Anonymous
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>>12910888 if you're so worried that people will vote against allowing typings to be changed, why are you in favor of having a vote on changing a particular pokemons typing?
Surely if people think the idea is good enough to make a change they'll see fit to vote in favor of future votes on type change proposals.
Anonymous
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>>12910901 >Newfags ignore the fact that we have changed types using surveys >Another newfag thinks that making a survey saying whether we should or should not won't get ignored Anonymous
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>>12910901 The argument doesnt need to exist in the first place because WE LITERALLY JUST DID IT A FEW WEEKS AGO.
THAT IS PROOF ENOUGH THAT TYPINGS CAN BE VOTED ON TO CHANGE.
That is literally just like having a vote on if we should change HMs right after we finished the fucking HM survey
Sketcher
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>>12910856 Shoot doing it now, just a sec.
Anonymous
>>12910904 >You read the wiki and such right? Yes. I'm the guy who you guys suggested to work on the UI.
>And why do you think we should have a survey for that if you have only been here 5 days. The fact you came during summer makes me wary. Well it's clear nobody can agree on if he should be retyped or not, so clearly a consensus needs to be made SOMEHOW.
Anonymous
>>12910927 i thought we had a UI a while back. or was that just for battles not for the backpack/etc
Anonymous
Has pangolash been resurveyed yet?
Anonymous
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>>12910938 it had and lost, thought there are other designs in need of a resurvey.
Anonymous
>>12910937 Those are all placeholder
>>12910927 Have you made any progress?
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>>12910879 If we've done it before to confirmed Pokemon then there's no reason to ask.
Sketcher
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>>12910970 Thanks again!
I'm gonna wait 10 minutes, if anyone wants any questions added you should let me know now.
Anonymous
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>>12910950 i thought someone was working on a red,blue and yellow one. was more then a placeholder.
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Oh and should I really include Poodle Moths for the Ditto question or is that just trollbait?
Anonymous
>>12910989 1. Other than the select few signature moves in our game, should we also consider ideas for other original moves for pokemon in general?
2. If we should consider original moves, how many should we aim at making? (1-5, 6-10, 15+, as many as it takes)
Anonymous
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>>12910937 you mean this one?
Anonymous
>>12911016 pretty sure its just trollbait.
I mean why accentuate the reason people hated it in the first place?
Anonymous
>>12911016 >Oh and should I really include Poodle Moths for the Ditto question or is that just trollbait? their concept is that they have sex with everything...
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>>12911026 Ok I'll add it.
>>12911033 >>12911038 I'm stumped. Half of me thinks that it needs to be there because people actually want it, and the other half knows what will happen if I do.
Anonymous
>>12911038 >their concept is that they have sex with everything... No it isn't my god are you new.
Anonymous
>>12911062 their concept was "lel, we need another sexy waifu to fap to"
sounds like hot skitty on wailord action to me.
Anonymous
>>12911056 almost nobody actually wants that
and those who do dont know what the subject is
poodle moths are not waifu/husbando
any more and they are definatally not whores
Anonymous
>>12911084 >poodle moths are not waifu/husbando any more yes fuck they are.
Anonymous
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>>12911078 The concept was joke concept that we should make a fappable pokemon. Since then the concept has been taken seriously and every design is now a regal married couple design, the ditto idea contradicts that greatly. In short you're a faggot who's seems to be either sticking to memes or just plain stupid.
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I have "other" on there, if people really want it they can write it in.
MISCELLANEOUS SURVEY:
https://www.surveym onkey.com/s/C8 ZT7VN
>>12905659 Anonymous
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>>12911101 >Poodle Moth 3 >bug waifu notice the difference
we changed them already, it was a big deal, everyone got mad, they are staying humanoid poodle moths, just like lucario is humanoid, not like lucario is fappable
Anonymous
>>12911126 >mababra >not Bugwife now who's trolling?
Anonymous
>>12911126 >should the chihaha line to change from dark to dark/normal >dark >dark/normal Yes or no was too complicated for you?
I
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>>12911157 Someone mentioned yesterday that Ao Ao's are considered gods of fertility or something. I thought I'd add it just in case. And if you want to vote for the Poodle Moth, there is an "other" option where you can write it in.
Anonymous
>>12905659 hey how are you guys making the music names survey? I think you should divide the survey according to the cities. That way we can mix names from list 1 or list 3.
Anonymous
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>>12911166 Someone could have gotten confused and thought "Yes it should stay the same? or Yes it should change?" I'm just making it idiot-proof
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12911174 I was gonna make it like that. and in the case of any doubles, we'd just resurvey that city.
Anonymous
>>12911126 >as many as it takes as many is at takes to what?
Anonymous
>>12911207 as many original moves, as was explained in the fucking question.
>doesn't into reading comprehension Anonymous
>>12911230 yeah i got that
as many original moves as it takes to what?
Anonymous
>>12911101 That's it. We should cull the bug waifu
Anonymous
>>12911258 As many as it takes to get the right amount.
its not complicated
Possum
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>>12911259 Oh god it's happening again
Anonymous
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>>12911259 Its genius. Why has no one thought of it before?
Anonymous
>>12911258 >as many original moves as it takes to what? as many as it takes for people to be satisfied. for people that thought 10+ meant around 15-20, so they could say "Fuck that, I want all new moves, No HM's, 10 different flavors of stunspore, a different move for every pokemon at every level, I wanna ride this baby into the sun!"
Anonymous
>>12911266 so the question is
>what is the right amount and the options are:
>1-5 >6-10 >10+ >the right amount Anonymous
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Made edits to the Fumighast design. Of course the mouth, horns, smokestacks, cloud, and hands will all need separate questions.
Anonymous
>>12911299 So retards then?
Anonymous
Made edits to the Fumighast design. Of course the mouth, horns, smokestacks, cloud, and hand edits will all need separate questions.
Anonymous
>>12911299 >"Fuck that, I want all new moves, No HM's, 10 different flavors of stunspore, a different move for every pokemon at every level, I wanna ride this baby into the sun!" Were doing this
Anonymous
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>>12911316 more like
>a definite small a mount >a definite moderate amount >a definite large amount >IDK into amounts and don't want to limit peoples creativity or force them to produce more moves than may be necessary so I'm just gonna say as many as it takes Anonymous
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>>12911335 Could we get one with lopsided eyes and mouth?
get slothy
Anonymous
>>12911349 >>12911332 Yeah retards and newfags then
Anonymous
>>12911373 You don't know what a joke is do you
Anonymous
>>12911389 make better jokes
Anonymous
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>>12911401 Do you always get angry when people are mildly silly?
Anonymous
>>12911335 How about take that and put it in
>>12908235 's pose. And get a little slothy
Anonymous
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>>12911453 It would help it from being generic mc greenghost
Anonymous
this should be a collective pokemon game. what you want is a little irrelevant. this is more like some of those conceptual albums. here we are doing how pokemon made by votes would be. the idea is more important than the final results.
Anonymous
>>12911503 What are you getting on about
Anonymous
>>12911126 Should we have a "Ditto" (A Pokemon that can breed with any breedable Pokemon)?
you should include the the option maybe for users that are ok with the game having it or not
Anonymous
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12911543 If they don't care either way its skippable. Why vote on something you don't care about? It just muddles the survey results.
Possum
>>12911525 >>12911546 I... I think he says we should stop arguing?
Clearly that is a terrible idea
Have some scribbles
Anonymous
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>>12911562 That's pretty much what I looked like when I typed that
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
>>12911546 >>12911525 its like the album where the guy trained kids for 2 days and then made then create a free jazz album.
the concept is more important than final result.
If the album will become good or not is irrelevant, the idea is to see what it will become.
Anonymous
Did a Pangolash based around the devil's backbone spurge
Anonymous
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>>12911650 Wasn't that an episode of Different Strokes?
The Bicycle man molests them in the end right?
Anonymous
>>12910950 >Have you made any progress? I haven't started yet. I'm a busy guy Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12911679 8/10 could do without the feet and nose spike though
Anonymous
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>>12911679 I love you Aguanaut artist
>>12911692 You're a pretty big fella...
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12911679 >Using my idea I love you man.
Anonymous
>>12911679 Its almost perfect. Change the the feet though.
Anonymous
>>12911782 >Change the the feet Change them how? Be specific
Anonymous
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>>12910383 If your still adding, there was talk of Viipii having a super low encounter rate, but being in every location. Or maybe just every grass location
Anonymous
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>>12911812 Make them straighter for one thing. The front one that's closest looks retarded.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
>>12911749 Was a good idea. I wasn't even aware that plant existed.
>>12911719 Maybe. I was a bit inspired by that kaiju pic going around with Pangolash as Anguirus
Anonymous
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>>12910602 >It's a superfluous concept Immune to ghost, dual type like Cheshade, you're acting like it has no reasons what so ever.
I think the innocence thing is dumb, but there are some valid point.
It would make a better half normal than Gigaard.
Anonymous
>>12911126 Oh good, its Pokemon: Signature Move Edition all over again.
Also, its kind of one-sided to ask "Should we have something or not?" without having another side, as people would rather have something than nothing. The utilization of the breeding system with Egg Groups as is should really be placed alongside it, but I guess I'm just nitpicking.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12911879 hmm. keep the nose then, but I think he needs a nostril showing. feet still though
Anonymous
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>>12910697 It shouldn't chang color or type.
There was a proposed ability to do damage matching the opponent's color.
Red mon = fire attack etc
That is more original and more fitting
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>12911879 It exists,
and it hurts like hell. Anonymous
>>12911299 Gen 5 had 10 signature moves outside of legends and starters. Should we shoot for
>roughly 10 >An equal prercent based on having more mon >more than ten >Less than ten. Anonymous
Re: Howlequin Some people complain we have to many non-esential dual normals. Gigaard, Musberry, Atoms. Want an option to have the dogs be half normal and make one of the others pureblood, or is that just one can of worms too many.
Anonymous
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>>12911908 >>12911967 Remember we already voted on the distribution of sigs. This is for regular moves
Anonymous
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>>12911679 fix the feet and its literally perfect
Anonymous
>>12911999 those three make way more since than chihaha
dont change that much anyway
Anonymous
>>12912050 Why is Gigaard part normal?
Anonymous
>>12912077 because unlike onix which is a rock
it is a normal pokemon with rock armor
its been discussed alot already
Anonymous
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>>12911649 Mappers.
Never do this.
We know where things go because of the letter labbles.
Why would you vandalize your beautiful map like this?
And we know how to follow a path.
Anonymous
>>12912100 >its been discussed alot already Sorry, I guess I just wasn't here then.
but it doesn't look like armor, it looks like it's growing out of him. I mean he's sprouting jemstones.
But I'll shut up about it now.
Anonymous
>>12912144 lol, your welcome to talk mate
but yeah it should stay
Anonymous
>>12912169 heh, been super hostile around here lately.
I'm not even new but there are still plenty of things I don't know about. And heaven forbid I bring them up.
Anonymous
>>12911649 I thought we voted that people wanted a mine cart in the coal mine
So it was designed to fit into any of the proposals.
Is it really an option to either stand on it's own somewhere else or be dropped entirely, or am I reading that wrong?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>12912220 Yeah, Thats a really good point. the idea is to gauge how people like it, to see if its the minecart puzzle they want in the mine that we pick. and even if the second design wins, it will be edited to both have new tiles, and have some sort of puzzle in it.
Anonymous
>>12912202 It really has. It blew up when the first HM survey went down and Dunky left, then it got eerily quiet after. But the past 3 or 4 days have been awful. SNS got destroyed last night when he was trying to help out. Maybe probation and the immanency of the demo are getting people worked up
Anonymous
added nostril and gave it the other design's legs
Anonymous
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>>12912309 game ready
make the feet a bit smaller tho
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
Anonymous
>>12912309 eeeeh it doesn't look like a armadillo/pangolin anymore. you should make its back a little rounder.
Anonymous
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>>12912309 Looks great. I'd vote that in in a heartbeat.
Anonymous
Just uploaded a couple more themes.
I will probably slow down a bit after this for a little while, although I still want to write a mart theme at some point.
https://soundcloud.com/frostfuzz/pk7bw https://soundcloud.com/frostfuzz/pk26 The first is remake of the desert theme and the second is a WIP battle theme
my first decent attempt Anonymous
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>>12912852 >Dat desert theme Second sounds really Battle Towerish pretty good
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
I'm closing the Musburry survey in an hour. Get your votes in everyone.
Anonymous
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>>12912852 That's awesome.
Anonymous
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>>12912582 No.
It is a spiky pangolin.
It is fine.
Anonymous
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>>12912304 Maybe we need a dumb survey to lighten the mood.
I would love if we could have a real thing for stuff like most improved, best concept etc
But if we're stuck with multple choose, things like who would win in a Drag race
>Berratel >Bug Waifu >Somberado Anonymous
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>>12912933 When you do the follow up remember to ask if Mushbushel should loose the ability, like most mon loose pickup.
I think that would be best, but it wouldn't surprise me if people get greedy and want it to stay Anonymous
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Are we able to do water reflections in Essentials?
Anonymous
Why is this frail deer so bulky and slow?
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12913181 80 is reasonable, but it does look like it should be a bit faster.
Anonymous
>>12913208 Yeah maybe 95-100 speed.
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
Pretty tired, so I'm not making any promises, but does anyone have tile requests?
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12913221 Well present your statspread to the thread before you change something.
Anonymous
>>12913221 Take some from attack and HP. 100 attack is insane for an early game normal type like that.
Anonymous
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>>12913225 Hmmm maybe make some Coast town houses? Or a boat?
Anonymous
>>12913238 I was thinking
85/105/75/60/70/95 For Buckston
65/80/55/45/55/75 For Llamarsh
45/60/35/30/35/70 For Fawning
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12913291 That sounds great, make an image to get people's attention though.
Anonymous
>>12913291 >raising the attack 80/85/80/60/80/95
Anonymous
>>12913291 >>12913260 What happened to having weaker early game mons?
Seriously this thing needs to have 455 BST tops.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12913335 It's a three stage pokemon, we already have hamsters to fill that niche.
I'd use Stoutland or Pidgeot as a reference, somewhere between those two.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12913391 Still, 490 is ridiculous. How about 475?
75/85/75/60/75/95
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12913444 That's fine, I'd take 5 off hp and add to attack though.
Anonymous
>>12913444 Stoutland has 495 BST and Luxray has 523
Anonymous
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>>12913457 I can dig it.
70/90/75/60/75/95
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>12913471 475 isn't too bad for a three stage mon.
Anonymous
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>>12913471 >using outliers as an example Most early game 3 stagers are somewhere around 470-480.
Anonymous
So what role exactly do the festival boys have. Are they like the Geishas in HGSS?
Anonymous
>>12913541 Who is Geishas?
Anonymous
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>12913541 Yes. You meet them separately though out the reagion and then in one city you see them dancing in a parade and then they show you the dance hall and you can battle them. also they give you items and stuff when ever you meet them.
Anonymous
>>12913575 >>12913584 Kimono. Whatever. Jump on my oversight rather than answer a simple question.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12913605 Welcome to 4chan, don't slip up.
Anonymous
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>>12913651 Yeah, really hate this place some times.
Anonymous
so what exactly is the flask pokemon based on? It's chemistry set flasks and... pollution?
Anonymous
>>12913859 something like that, earlier it was pharmaceutical/medical waste.
Anonymous
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>>12913874 before that aliens but idea was rejected by newer designs.
Anonymous
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>>12913859 Its an alien experiment from a vial that gets possessed by a ghost. Some people want it to be cuddly like Sloth from the Goonies and some want it to be a regular ghost. And then there's those who want it to go back to being a UFO.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Musburry Survey results: I'll make a runoff on what part of the sprite should change its colors between just the berry and berry and Pokemon colors. I'll also add whether or not it should lose it as it evolves or not.
Anonymous
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>>12913956 hooray!
>>12913859 Also got some mad scientist in there.
Alien connection is stupid.
Anonymous
>>12913443 Is it too much to ask for better art of Llamarsh and Buckston? They look so out of place.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>12913956 >all of my choices won cool, hopefully by the time the kidling line is done being revamped that last question will receive more balanced answers though
Anonymous
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>>12913996 >One of these things is not like the others >better change the other two Evos have their shit together, they just have sketch marks. Fawning is more refined but doesn't fit in.
Anonymous
>>12912309 i feel like the back needs to be more pronounced like so
Anonymous
>>12913996 Meh i can't draw
But i do agree, they need better art.
Anonymous
>>12914234 i'm hoping a lot of the designs will get redraws after the dex is done done done
Anonymous
>>12913956 The idea was the sprite color will change. The only question is how much.
You mean you want the actual sprite of the berry to change? That's going to be more work. Plus, we aren't even 100% what our berries will look like.
Anonymous
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>>12913859 possessed vials/chemistry stuff containing hallucinogens that effect the minds of opponents was basically the original concept
the moveset people gave approximately zero shits about that and decided to make them weezing reskins but I digress
Anonymous
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>>12914240 >>12914234 That's always been the idea.
We are voting on designs, to later be sugied and look all sexy.
If people are voting based on how game ready the art is that that really tanks the whole thing.
Being biased towards finished art is one thing, but don't knock a drawing because it isn't spotless.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>12914252 I assume it means berries themselves. I copied what people said verbatim, and no one seemed to have a problem with it.
Anonymous
>>12914252 it doesn't matter what he berries look like...they will just change color. the nose isn't changing too is it? i don't like that.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12914299 The nose is part of the sprite, so as long as "both" doesn't win in the runoff it will stay the same.
Anonymous
>>12914299 >it doesn't matter what he berries look like...they will just change color Vote says to change the berries
>the nose isn't changing too is it? i don't like that. Then vote in the followup.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12914224 It's an improvement.
Anonymous
>>12914331 But runoff is going to have several options right?
Because I'm berry man and I've tried to be very articulate about this.
Anonymous
>>12914351 but it doesn't say how
the runoff should ask wether or not people want the color to change or the berry sprite
i voted thinking it would just be color. i guess i don't really care.
Anonymous
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>>12914356 hey thanks. i'm not actually sure if i like the design but it's well done.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
If any spriters are awake, these confirmed designs have no sprites on the wiki.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12914363 Give me an example of what you want on the runoff. I'll be glad to add anything, as long it doesn't contradict the last one.
Anonymous
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>>12914366 Yeah, that question doesn't look super clear. I guess "Sprite Colors" was supposed to mean his body.
But I guess the runoffs will clear it up anyway
Anonymous
>>12914436 God dammit. I had a whole apollogy for being so flippant and everything. It was beautiful. You would have cried. Dunno where the box went.
This is just something I worked out a long time ago and I panicked when it seemed like things might get messed up. But everyone seems to like the idea so it's all good.
Bascially just use
>>12914363 Without a berry should it look like 1/2/3/4
With a berry it should look like a/b/c/d/e
Would one larger berry be better to show it actually has a berry?
y/n
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12910573 I haven't been linking the thread in the forums tho... I stopped.
Going to try to put out the Dark Gym Leader Concepts Survey tonight... will need help shortening the paragraphs of text like a kind anon did last time for me. Also will work on it later just had a full day of work and I am not feeling so great right now.
Anonymous
>>12914505 Next time you should ask people for a TLDR version you can put like at bold in the top or something.
Hope you feel better.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>12914504 I can do that. Thanks for letting me know, I didn't mean to cause any confusion.
Anonymous
>>12914512 Or a 140 character limit. you'd think it would be implied we aren't going for a biography.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12914512 >>12914544 Will do for the next one thanks.
Anonymous
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>>12914541 s'all good
Everyone seems on board anyway so now it's just fine tuning.
In my lost apology I also said it very well might have been my exact words on q4. I'm sure I probably also gave the okay before you posted it, so I'm just a bit ol' silly goose tonight.
Sweet dreams /vp/
Anonymous
Dumping egg groups. Nothing final. Dunno how many already have them Just thought I'd try my hand at it. Some of them have precedents listed to the side, especially the ones that seem a bit odd at first. And again, this isn't final. Just a tribute.
Anonymous
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>>12914613 We gave literally every pokemon in the dex an egg group some time in December. Why would you go to all this effort without first checking the wiki?
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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Going to close the Gym Order Survey as well in a bit.
It has 81 people who have taken the survey, but only 66 people who got the filtration right. And 6 of those people didn't even vote in the order question, so really at 60 votes, but it has been open for awhile now. And the percentages have stayed about the same the whole time.
Gym Order Runoffs Survey
https://www.surveymon key
.com/s/ LordsOfOrder
Anonymous
>>12914613 Montegrew and Capulilly shouldn't be able to breed
Anonymous
>>12914716 get out
I know where you're coming from though Anonymous
>>12914740 nah man having them incapable of breeding is actually something that was decided by popular opinion a long time ago
Anonymous
>>12914748 okay then, I concede Anonymous
>>12914748 >implying anyone goes by popular opinion anymore SURVEY FUCKING ERRYTHING
EVEN DITTO SHIT
Anonymous
>>12914755 the first stages in their lines represent romeo and juliet and so they are sort of romantic
but the second stages represent the montague family and the capulet family who hate each other bitterly.
Anonymous
>>12914748 Unless you've got survey results, I don't buy it. I get where you're coming from too, but I think in this case you're sacrificing gameplay for the sake of a fun little nod to the source material. It's already super super clear what they're based on. We don't need to remove their ability to breed to hammer the point home further. Players are going to want to breed them. It's going to be frustrating when they can't, and all we'll be able to say is "hey we thought it would be cute"
Anonymous
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>>12914786 Wailord and Skitty are based on a whale and a cat, respectively. I think you see where I'm going with this.
Anonymous
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>>12914787 >>12914782 /vp/ makes surveys general
Anonymous
>>12914787 look at the names of the pokemon dummy
>romeo and juliet >montague and capulet also look at how cute the first stages are and then how unfriendly the second stages are. this is some old shit that was planned from the start newfag.
Anonymous
>>12914844 Jesus Christ I hope you're fucking with me right now
Gunvarrel !Oq/9NMk1yg
>>12914417 But those are haaaaaaaaaaard.
Anonymous
>>12914865 here is a suggested pokedex entry for montegrew that somebody posted on the forums:
>While as a GROWMEO it was infatuated TULIEP, when it evolves it holds a strong rivalry with CAPULILLY. It still appears to have strong feelings for it though. they become unfriendly. and yes you're one of the few people who wasn't aware of this.
Raptor
>>12914890 I agree. i designed that fucking ankillosore and i dont wanna sprite that shit. i'll let some other fool do it.
hey dog!...
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12914922 Didn't you already have a sprite for that?
Anonymous
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>>12914922 Raptor confirmed for
Emo Pineco No wait, the dog would have to be on top Anonymous
>>12914931 only for the other two in the line
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
Ratatosk
>>12914417 Hang on, so did someone finish Thoraxe's arms?
Anonymous
>>12914907 I've been aware of what Montegrew and Capulip were based on since Tomato designed them. I'm not going to get into the newfag argument with you. I just can't believe the basis for not making them breedable is really "they look rly mean see XD they cant breed'
My counter-argument is: Breeding is a gameplay mechanic, and gameplay mechanics shouldn't be sacrificed for cutesy nods to source material. Like I said, if gamefreak let source material interfere with gameplay, Skitty and Wailord wouldn't be able to breed, and hundreds of other pairings wouldn't work either.
I am, however, abandoning this fight. I don't even have anything invested in this project anymore, I just stop by about once a month to see how progress is coming. And every time I forget how much I hate you fucking people. Jesus.
Anonymous
>>12914787 >>12914999 You're bringing some pretty valid points there. What I'd propose is making them able to breed, but give them the oblivious ability as a reference. Or just keep the thing subtle with no reference at all.
Anonymous
>>12914992 No, but its on the wiki as a WIP. It would be nice to have at least something to show for these. If its on the wiki, there's a better chance someone will pic it up and finish it.
Anonymous
>>12914999 >being upset that the mechanics of the game relate to a pokemon's design Stop the presses folks, time to remove unique skills and abilities. We can't have those anymore. Hell, let's just get rid of any nod to the design at all! While we're at it, let's go break into GF's offices and force them at gunpoint to make sure the Nidoqueen line can breed as well.
Seriously dude. It's not "lol they look le mean XDXDXDXD". Montegrew and Capulily are paired Pokemon and it makes sense to have mechanics based around their designs. I fail to see how gameplay is sacrificed by attempting to make sure it actually reflect what happens in game, ESPECIALLY since there is precedent.
Anonymous
>>12915074 He said mechanics shouldn't be SACRIFICED. As in, we shouldn't have to make a pokemon suffer or take something away from it because of a dumb reference that is unneeded.
Ratatosk
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>>12915046 Okay. It's been a while so I had hoped someone may have updated something here. I'm currently not at a workable station but as soon as I am I'll try finishing him off and maybe even throwing out some skeleton for people to improve upon.
Also, there's a newer Thoraxe with adapted mandibles [don't have it right now but will upload it later].
Also also, there's a decent collective effort Macuarrior around that some like and others don't. That should also be uploaded to the Wikia.
Anonymous
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>>12915038 My contention is that having their names obviously based on Montegue and Capulet, and aesthetically making them look like nobility, as well as the smaller, subtler nods we've already given them (like Destiy Bond) is more than enough.
Anonymous
>>12915074 Pokemon mechanics should always be related to their design. When giving them their stats, typing and abilities, their design should be considered with the highest priority, and giving a pokemon a gameplay mechanic that doesn't make sense is definitely bad design. BUT, when you TAKE AWAY a gameplay mechanic just to assuage your autism, you're hurting gameplay.
Anonymous
>>12915089 It's not a dumb reference though. If we were doing something with Warquila that dimished its use for a Kamina reference, I'd understand. That's more of a side-joke or a subtle nod than anything.
Capulily and Montegrew's whole design is based on what you guys are calling a "cutesy nod". From their designs to their names to the fluff they are completely and totally "Romeo and Juliet". It is completely feasible to keep them from breeding because IT MAKES SENSE. And, once again, there's an actual precedence for it.
Anonymous
>>12915125 How is it hurting gameplay? I feel like you need to actually explain the impact to me.
Anonymous
>>12915162 Because someone, somehwere out there is going to want to breed their Montegrew and their Capulip. Because they'll be playing our game, and that is what you can do in pokemon games, you can breed your pokemon.
Anonymous
>>12915172 What does breeding those two specific pokemon do for you that other pokemon cannot accomplish?
Anonymous
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>>12915140 Making them unbreedable is a nod to their source material. We don't need anymore nods to their source material, it's already super clear.
Anonymous
>>12915162 It prevents you from being able to get egg moves for Capulily, or just breed them together.
The Skitty/Wailord thing was a bad example - Zangoose and Seviper's ENTIRE THING is they're bitter rivals who kill each other on sight.
And they're found on the same routes and can breed. Something should only be unable to breed if it lacks a gender. Nidoqueen was a programming mistake.
Anonymous
>>12915188 Say maybe you have a Montegrew with a good nature or SpAtk IV you want to pass on, or a good egg move, or some TM moves, and you want to bred a little Growmeo with those moves/stats whatever.
Anonymous
>>12915198 I assumed the issue was that the evos coud not breed together, but the prevos could. In that case your egg moves argument is irrelevant.
Also I've never heard the Nidoqueen comment. Source? I'm actually super curious.
Anonymous
>>12915214 Would breeding with a Tuliep instead of Capulily harm that?
Nuttypea
>>12914505 Here's the best I could do.
I also PM'd the summary to you on the forums...
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
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>>12915236 Thank you, this helps immensely, will try to get it out tonight, but I am not feeling very good right now so no promises.
Thank you though, this really helps!
Anonymous
>>12915222 As for why Nidoqueen can't breed? It just wasn't programmed in and GameFreak doesnt retcon.
As for Nidoqueen being a program mistake? Her and Nidorina cannot breed at all, but Nidoran(F) can. The whole male Nidoran line can. There MAY be a biological explanation, but its very unlikely, much like Azurill's oddities.
Some smogonite datamined, and found that Azurill was just a copy/paste of Cleffa with a different movepool because of laziness, and they forgot to change anything. Anonymous
>>12915234 Nope. But maybe this hypothetical player only has a Tuliep. It's not a situation that's going to come up too often. I'm just saying it seems like we're unnecessarily going out of our way to frustrate this hypothetical player.
Anonymous
>>12915236 >mr grey Are you fucking kidding me, Clash dont you dare survey that. Come the fuck on
Anonymous
>>12915271 If you faggots vote in Mr Grey I will slit my goddamn wrists.
Anonymous
>>12915267 It's a very specific instance. Splitting some hairs heavily.
Anonymous
>>12915282 Livestream it please.
Anonymous
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>>12915271 to quote SNS, "Half of me thinks that it needs to be there because people actually want it, and the other half knows what will happen if I do."
Anonymous
>>12915260 I meant is there an actual reference/statement that it was a programming mistake and not intentional?
Anonymous
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>>12915288 Yep. I don't think anyone involved in this argument isn't aware that it's the dumbest, least important thing ever.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>12915282 >>12915271 what if we change his name to Edward?
Ratatosk
>>12915236 Oh god, I only just now realised that my concept wasn't short or handy in the least, as I'm not one for compact writing. Sorry for causing the extra effort!
I would, however, appreciate if you'd write
>'Despite his appearance he tries to run the gym as normally as possible, turning him into a relatively comical character.' instead of just
>'Despite his appearance he's relatively comic.' I feel like the latter omits a key point to the concept.
Nimble !bdB08On366
Anonymous
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>>12915322 U r 1 cheeky bugger aren't you?
Anonymous
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>>12915236 now we need to vote on actual designs for cameron and steel girl. as we have to get better art for both to make vs and battle sprites.
Anonymous
>>12915344 What's your inspiration from on that one?
Anonymous
>>12915337 quote that to clash, has he's the one putting together the survey.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12915271 I can't just not include something though... I mean from what it seems like there is a lot of negativity for it. I honestly haven't followed the dark gyms suggestions at all. And I have only lightly skimmed through the ones on the forum.
But someone suggested it, as much as you hate it, I have to survey it. If you really feel like it is something wrong for the project then bring up your dislikes about it and give reasoning. As well as people who are for it can give their reasoning for liking it. But please keep it somewhat knowledgeable. Seems like a lot of gym talk has been turning into very negative arguments lately. But then I really haven't been following it to much so I could be wrong though.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12915337 >>12915371 Will take note of when I start it. I am still not feeling to great, I might close the gym order survey and then work on the dark gym survey before getting the results for the Order out.
Nuttypea
>>12915374 >If you really feel like it is something wrong for the project then bring up your dislikes about it and give reasoning. people feel it's trollbait because it's based on "50 shades of Grey" and are worried it will end up in the game due to proxies.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
>>12915401 I check for proxies, plus I have an upgraded account now, so there is a little bit better security against it. But I do check and I do delete those people who think they can vote multiple times.
Anonymous
>>12915374 To be fair, honestly, if it's a bad design no one going to vote for it anyways. It's fine.
Anonymous
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>>12915428 people voted for gold gorilla, but I see your point
>>12915411 I'm not worried. it's just such a terrible concept it could only be trolling... but that's just me.
Anonymous
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>>12915344 wow that sounds awesome.
Nimble !bdB08On366
>>12915366 Mountains. and climbing them.
Anymore requests? I want to be busy.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
What happened to Wimblesaurus's soundcloud?
Anonymous
>>12915506 Coast city theme
Nimble !bdB08On366
>>12915526 haha, incidentally im working on an arrangement of Wave by Antonio Carlos Jobim. I guess I'll make a nice adaption of the chord changes.
>>12915521 https://soundcloud.com/wimblephoenix Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>12915567 Thank you, I wish he still had "Like no one ever was."
Ratatosk
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>>12915392 Thanks! Don't push yourself
too much .
Ratatosk
>>12914417 Connection is abysmal, I may be a while..
Repost of Macuarrior. If someone logged into Wikia could post it there that would be great [or rework it, of course].
Ratatosk
>>12915934 Also repost of Thoraxe with the tweaked mandibles.
Clash !BMy7CLasHA
This survey is long, there is a bit to read. Please take your time, and make sure you don't rush.
Dark Gym Leader Concepts Survey:
https://www .survey
monkey.com/s/ Jinx
YouOweMeA Anonymous
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>>12916060 Thank you. I hope you feel better.
Ratatosk
>>12915943 A version with arms, but since someone already uttered dislike conserning my interpretation of axes, I highly invite anyone to build up on this.
Ratatosk
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>>12916160 Also cleaned out the outline, since there were many hues of gray jumbled in.
Anonymous
>>12916060 >mr grey Take a fucking seat
Anonymous
>>12916193 lol yeah. survey was easy, so many so-edgy-its-cool leaders to skip through. and a few redundant and non-plot fitting type ones.
Ratatosk
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>>12916225 I just hope the Leader will have reasonable depth to him, since I feel like Dark type leaders invite fairly multi-facetted characters.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>12916060 Fuck, I could've sworn that was Patama. Clash !BMy7CLasHA
Anonymous
>>12916247 lol it was a trap. be careful with related poke next confo ? i almost did it as well
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU