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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:40:03 No.12908044 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12908058 >>12908062 >>12908063 >>12908071 >>12908074 >>12908116 >>12908158 >>12908305

I hope they redo natures in VI.

I mean 80% of them are useless, why would you want to take away defense, special defense or even speed. What Pokemon would benefit from losing defense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:42:42 No.12908058 Report

Quoted By: >>12908066

>>12908044
Mixed attackers who would rather keep their speed? It happens. But I can't think of any sort of set that requires a neutral nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:42:49 No.12908059 Report

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fast mixed sweeper

it's niche, but they exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:42:54 No.12908060 Report

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The benefit of -10% defense and special defense is that it stabilizes your Pokemon's attack or special attack to have the role of a mixed sweeper.
The -10% speed nature is primarily for Gyro Ball and Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:43:07 No.12908062 Report

Quoted By: >>12908090

>>12908044
Mixed attackers
the only useless nature are theones that don't do anything, lax and gentle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:43:09 No.12908063 Report

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>>12908044
gr8 b8 m8 id r8 it an 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:43:16 No.12908065 Report

Quoted By: >>12908078

a mixed sweeper perhaps

but those don't exist anymore

I hope they add something to natures other than simple stat modifications, for example certain natures would make the Pokemon have more power when it has high HP, but less when it has low, or more resistance against some types, but less against others (say, Brave would take 10% less from fighters, but 10% more from psychics)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:43:19 No.12908066 Report

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>>12908058
Glalie.

Fucking 80 in every stat. What were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:43:45 No.12908071 Report

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>>12908044

Sweepers don't give a fuck about defense, and walls don't give a fuck about speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:44:21 No.12908074 Report

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>>12908044
An attack based one. Or a sweeper. If I need to get rid of everything before I get hit I don't need defense IV's. I just need Speed, and Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:44:41 No.12908078 Report

Quoted By: >>12908092

>>12908065
No.

Don't make it anymore complex than it already is.

If they do this I hope they make IV's not a hidden value that has to be perfectly bred which takes hours to get right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:45:13 No.12908080 Report

Quoted By: >>12908098 >>12908106 >>12908108

That would be nice. The neutral natures need a rework as well. Maybe +2% in every stat?

But mostly, the whole IV system needs to be shitcanned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:45:22 No.12908081 Report

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I should do something like....

>-DEF
>-DEF
>++SpA

MORE MORE NATURES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:46:24 No.12908090 Report

Quoted By: >>12908157

>>12908062
ones that raise defence but lower the other defence are also worthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:46:44 No.12908092 Report

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>>12908078

Or even better, IVs wouldn't modify regular stats anymore, but do what I said above - so some Pokemon would do 4% more against Waters but 3% less against Electrics, etc - almost unnoticable in battle, but makes every pokemon "unique" which was the point of IVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:46:52 No.12908093 Report

Quoted By: >>12908109

I should do something like....

>-DEF
>-ATT
>++SpA

MORE MORE NATURES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:47:43 No.12908098 Report

Quoted By: >>12908119

>>12908080
This.

The 2% thing is genius.

Since HP doesn't come into play with natures, it works out great boosting the other five stats by 2%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:48:58 No.12908106 Report

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>>12908080
I'm with you. I'll go out of my way to use Serious or Hardy Pokemon. I play in-game only and most of the time taking away stats is stupid. UNLESS it's a Pokemon like Cofagrigus. Then Relaxed it perfect for it since it will always attack last anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:49:21 No.12908108 Report

Quoted By: >>12908114 >>12908179

>>12908080
>shitcanned
That was really fucking retarded of you, I hope you know

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:49:25 No.12908109 Report

Quoted By: >>12908118

>>12908093

Scizor - Nature: Murderous
-Def, -Sdef, -Satk, -Speed, -HP, +++++Atk

Choice Band, Bullet Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:50:08 No.12908114 Report

Quoted By: >>12908132

>>12908108
Oh look, a Smogon fan is upset.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:50:24 No.12908116 Report

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>>12908044
>Taking away a mechanic that works and is perfectly functional
If anything needs to be done with is IVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:50:58 No.12908118 Report

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>>12908109
HP isn't affected by natures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:51:42 No.12908119 Report

Quoted By: >>12908139

>>12908098
Then how would bases stats work if there was no neutral nature. Unless they turned Serious into 2% and the kept Docile are just neutral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:53:37 No.12908132 Report

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>>12908114
Where the fuck did you get Smogon fan from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:54:20 No.12908139 Report

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>>12908119
I don't know, they could keep one or two 'neutral' natures I guess. But having five that do absolutely fuck all is ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:56:14 No.12908157 Report

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>>12908090
Tell that to physical wall HP ice Cobalion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:56:21 No.12908158 Report

Quoted By: >>12908175

>>12908044
Holy fuck, you ARE retarded.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:58:36 No.12908175 Report

Quoted By: >>12908274 >>12908949 >>12909015

>>12908158
>liking Sealeo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:59:02 No.12908178 Report

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Just because you suck at battling doesnt mean they should get rid of it. Get good you stupid motherfucking cock mongling cis faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 16:59:03 No.12908179 Report

Quoted By: >>12908296

>>12908108
explain?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 17:15:42 No.12908274 Report

Quoted By: >>12908290 >>12908949

>>12908175
>Nichishit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 17:19:17 No.12908290 Report

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>>12908274
>implying I didn't just save this image randomly
>implying you're not just being hostile because I hurt your precious feelings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 17:20:50 No.12908296 Report

Quoted By: >>12908933

>>12908179
It was just stupid
You just added shit to the beggining of canned and it didn't sound good at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 17:22:04 No.12908305 Report

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>>12908044
Fast mixed sweepers use -defense natures, trick room abusers use -speed natures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 18:30:14 No.12908933 Report

Quoted By: >>12909024

>>12908296
You've never heard the term 'shitcanned' before?

I usually associate it with getting fired, or dropped from a team like a football player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 18:32:56 No.12908949 Report

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>>12908175
>>12908274
>>>/a/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 18:39:12 No.12908996 Report

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I hope, in the advent of sky battles, that levitate is something other than an ability. That way, pokemon who appair to levitate but previously don't ,or not always, have that ability, can participate. F.e. All Bronzor can participate in a sky battle, even if they have the Heatproof abitily.

Also, although Dustox has wings, it is not a flying type. It should be able to participate.

I agree with OP, I hope they redo natures. Maybe they ARE doing it, since not a single ability has been revealed yet, anything's possible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 18:41:21 No.12909015 Report

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>>12908175
>Noy liking Sealeo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jul 2013 18:42:36 No.12909024 Report

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>>12908933
pretty sure most people just say "canned"
I have never before heard "shitcanned"

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