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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:34:08 No.12913255 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12913287 >>12913304 >>12913452 >>12913495 >>12914168

Real quick, can you guys name 5 Pokemon that was absolutely reck lucario. I'm staring at 3 faggot that are claiming lucario is god and is the best. Also not including boosts and in B/W.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:35:00 No.12913273 Report

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anything with earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:36:49 No.12913287 Report

Quoted By: >>12913342

>>12913255
>that was absolutely reck lucario
>was

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:37:23 No.12913293 Report

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Mienshao
Conkeldurr
Sigilyph
Butterfree
Drapion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:38:04 No.12913296 Report

Quoted By: >>12913385

Arceus, Mewtwo, Victini, Palkia, Deoxys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:38:34 No.12913300 Report

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Honchkrow
Staraptor
Mienshao
Arcanine
Infernape

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:39:00 No.12913304 Report

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>>12913255
Anything faster than it that can use EQ or a 100+ base Fighting move.
Extreme Speed immunity a bonus, but not necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:39:54 No.12913312 Report

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Conkeldurr
Machamp
Golurk
Infernape
Terrakion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:40:46 No.12913322 Report

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Cofagrigus with Psychic also works

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:42:41 No.12913342 Report

Quoted By: >>12913366

>>12913287
Do mistakes not exist in your world you stupid bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:42:52 No.12913346 Report

Quoted By: >>12913368 >>12913376 >>12913378

Most Ground, Fire and Fighting type.
Golurk is immune to Fighting moves and is capable of laying out STAB Earthquake, Fire Punch and some pretty good Fighting moves.
Lanturn is also immune to Fighting moves and receives less damage from Steel attacks due to being part Fire.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:43:10 No.12913351 Report

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>naturally outspeeds
>dual type advantage
>has access to EQ
>can take advantage of weather
>3 faggot are indeed 3 faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:44:31 No.12913366 Report

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>>12913342
buttfrustrated. Have you not heard of proof reading, you little twat?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:44:48 No.12913368 Report

Quoted By: >>12913397

>>12913346
>Lanturn is also immune to Fighting moves and receives less damage from Steel attacks due to being part Fire.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:44:49 No.12913369 Report

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Fucking Charizard can wreck Lucario, dude. It's not that hard to take down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:45:35 No.12913376 Report

Quoted By: >>12913397

>>12913346
You mean Chandelure, right?
Lanturn is the Water/Electric

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:45:43 No.12913378 Report

Quoted By: >>12913397

>>12913346
I hope you mean chandelure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:46:04 No.12913385 Report

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>>12913296
Well darn, I'll make sure to watch out for those. When using Lucario. In ubers.
>Lucario
>In ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:47:09 No.12913397 Report

Quoted By: >>12913417

>>12913376
>>12913368
>>12913378
Oh god, my mistake...how could I fuck that up...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:47:34 No.12913405 Report

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Typhlosion
Chandelure
Arcanine
Mienshao
Lucario

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:48:44 No.12913411 Report

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Whimsicott.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:49:01 No.12913417 Report

Quoted By: >>12913428 >>12913429

>>12913397
>implying Lanturn isn't the best ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:50:58 No.12913428 Report

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>>12913417
That Vaporeon is pretty fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:50:57 No.12913429 Report

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>>12913417
>lanturn
>best ghost
I'm actually mad

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:52:12 No.12913435 Report

Quoted By: >>12913454 >>12913455

>Also naturally outspeeds
>Resists both STABS
>Too bulky to give a shit about priority
>STAB EQ
>Was reck lucario till end of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:53:34 No.12913451 Report

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Anything that gets a hit on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:53:43 No.12913452 Report

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>>12913255
Salamence with E-quake
hell, anything faster than it with E-quake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:54:13 No.12913454 Report

Quoted By: >>12913494

>>12913435
Only resists one stab, but Lucario's doesn't use steel attacks anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:54:24 No.12913455 Report

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>>12913435
>was
Ok, I get it, bad typo.

Also thanks, these fags have read your comments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:54:58 No.12913459 Report

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Sableye shits all over it

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:58:13 No.12913494 Report

Quoted By: >>12913526 >>12913545 >>12913601

>>12913454
>Lucario doesn't use steel attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:58:17 No.12913495 Report

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>>12913255
Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:59:35 No.12913526 Report

Quoted By: >>12913612

>>12913494
Sometimes it has bullet bullet punch, but that's fairly rare and less powerful than Extreme Speed anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 01:59:45 No.12913529 Report

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op is an underagedb&

BPenguin !AoEca88ehY

BPenguin !AoEca88ehY Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:00:39 No.12913536 Report

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>Implying it ever uses Iron Shit or Bullet Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:01:29 No.12913545 Report

Quoted By: >>12913612

>>12913494
After using it for almost six years, and after facing them for six years, I've yet to see a single Lucario using Steel-type moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:04:08 No.12913583 Report

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>>12913429
>being mad because lanturn is the only ghost to learn shadow beam
What are you, some kind of faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:05:47 No.12913601 Report

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>>12913494
>Implying lucario runs BP over Extremespeed purely because of STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:06:33 No.12913612 Report

Quoted By: >>12913619 >>12913659 >>12913663

>>12913526
>>12913545
I don't even know if you guys are serious or trolling, either way, you guys sound like idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:07:38 No.12913619 Report

Quoted By: >>12913660

>>12913612
But it's true. Lucario rarely run steel moves because of its poor coverage

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:11:50 No.12913659 Report

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>>12913612
This motherfucker is taking no prisoners with his Metal Claw Lucario. That 50 BP is gonna anally probe everyone

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:11:58 No.12913660 Report

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>>12913619
I'm done.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:12:22 No.12913663 Report

Quoted By: >>12913680

>>12913612
You...you've never played competitive Pokémon, haven't you? Just because it learns Metal Claw doesn't mean you should use it.

Close Combat/Extremespeed/Swords Dance/Crunch or Ice Punch is the only physical set you should ever use.
As for special sets, Vacuum Wave/Aura Sphere/Dark Pulse/Nasty Plot or Hidden Power Ice are the only moves worth using. Not a single Steel-type move has being listed because, not only Steel is the second worst offensive type, but Fighting vastly outclasses it objectively. Have a nice day, angry anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:13:52 No.12913680 Report

Quoted By: >>12913691

>>12913663
Every so often you see bullet punch on the swords dance set to deal with gengar and terrakion other than that you're right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:14:49 No.12913691 Report

Quoted By: >>12913704 >>12913758 >>12914013

>>12913680
>Every so often

Not really, no...
Then again, feel free to go into Showdown's move statistics and prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:16:12 No.12913704 Report

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>>12913691
Eh, its mostly anecdotal evidence so take it with a grain of salt, but it has fucked my over personally on occasion.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:20:46 No.12913758 Report

Quoted By: >>12913765 >>12913778

>>12913691
>Basing view of metagame off of Showdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:21:30 No.12913764 Report

Quoted By: >>12914080

>>12913366
>not putting a typo in the sentance to troll people

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:21:44 No.12913765 Report

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>>12913758
Yeah, those fucking weighted usage stats that only include 1850 rated players and up

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:23:10 No.12913778 Report

Quoted By: >>12913869

>>12913758
Showdown IS the metagame, though. After all, the actual Wi Fi is teeming with casual players that use four Water-type moves in their Blastoise, as well as Solarbeam Ferrothorns and Ice Beam Mawile. As for the japanese players, that's a completely different metagame and thus their statistics are irrlevant to us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:36:49 No.12913869 Report

Quoted By: >>12913890 >>12914010

>>12913778
I think you've got it backwards. With Wifi you actually have to set up battles (somewhat), whereas on showdown, until you get to a decent ranking, you keep being forced into matches with mono-attack teams and poop like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:38:34 No.12913890 Report

Quoted By: >>12914010

>>12913869
Good thing the weighted usage stats have a cut off for a certain rating + deviation to separate the good from bad players

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:50:54 No.12914010 Report

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>>12913869
But it's common knowledge what >>12913890 said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:51:05 No.12914013 Report

Quoted By: >>12914058 >>12914059

>>12913691
Yeah, you DO see BP Lucario sometimes. Play more, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:54:59 No.12914058 Report

Quoted By: >>12914066

>>12914013
And before somebody tries to argue...
http://stats.pokemon-online.eu/Wifi%20OU/448.html
It's about 20% of Lucarios that carry it. It's not many, obviously, but it's enough that it's not wrong to take it into consideration. Not that it'd change anythign about Landorus fucking up Lucario or whatever the original argument was...

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:55:16 No.12914059 Report

Quoted By: >>12914066 >>12914071

>>12914013
Well, I've kept my score above 2003 since one year ago, even after factoring in the server resets, and I've avidly voted in the suspect threads. That being said, I think my voice probably matters more than yours, angry anon.

Perhaps it's you who should play a bit more in the OU Metagame? Good luck, though!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:56:19 No.12914066 Report

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>>12914059
See
>>12914058

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:57:19 No.12914071 Report

Quoted By: >>12914091

>>12914059
>implying I'm impressed by any of that
Again, play more, faggot. You obviously got a long way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:57:29 No.12914076 Report

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Anyone with mach punch STAB, or better speed and access to a fighting move/earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:57:54 No.12914080 Report

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>>12913764
>troll

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:59:37 No.12914091 Report

Quoted By: >>12914133

>>12914071
It's funny how you keep bashing me, yet fail to post any arguments or facts to back yourself up. What's the matter, angry-anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 02:59:58 No.12914096 Report

Quoted By: >>12914107 >>12914109

Funny thing i've already seen the highest rated smogon players talking about him like this

The conclusion is that he's not good enough anymore. He's too fragile and weak to fighting/ground/fire

You're whalecum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 03:01:19 No.12914107 Report

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>>12914096
>tfw Metagross didn't drop to UU this gen
>tfw Fairy type might be a reason for him to be OU next gen
Sucks mang

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 03:01:32 No.12914109 Report

Quoted By: >>12914145

>>12914096
Well, Lucario isn't as good as he used to be, but if you can make a team based around it, it can certainly work pretty well.
However, there's plenty of sweepers that require much less of team support, making them allegedly superior choices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 03:05:34 No.12914133 Report

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>>12914091
I agree with this poster

2000 is a really good OU ranking how good must he be to scoff at that like it's nothing. At the very least if he's actually damn good i'd really like to know what his opinion on being good at the game is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 03:07:04 No.12914145 Report

Quoted By: >>12914183

>>12914109
I've had it drilled into my head that basing a team strategy around 1 sweeper is a really ineffective idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 03:10:02 No.12914168 Report

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>>12913255
any fire type, any fighting type, so forth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jul 2013 03:12:02 No.12914183 Report

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>>12914145
Let me rephrase that. I didn't mean to say you're basing all 5 teammates around Lucario, but rather consider some of the following:
>Entry Hazards
>Counters' counter (ie, Gyarados: can take on most Landorus, scarf Heatran, and most glass cannons like Gengar after a single DD)
>Status spreader (namely Thunder Wave. Bulky Gyara, Dragonite, and Jirachi can all work)
>Anti-priority (again, Gyarados works well).
>Backup sweeper

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