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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:00:55 No.13011033 View View Reply Original Report

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Pokemon Coverage thread. Try to get better than this.

http://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:08:11 No.13011118 Report

Quoted By: >>13011133 >>13011160 >>13011223 >>13011235 >>13011479

Flying, Electric, Fighting and Ground.

0 - 0 - 131 - 557

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:09:02 No.13011130 Report

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Not as good but fire electric fighting ice is really good
>tfw porygon Z with Fire Blast, Thunder, Blizzard, Focus Miss has perfect coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:09:20 No.13011133 Report

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>>13011118
Nice, try replacing fighting with ice?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:09:42 No.13011135 Report

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:09:53 No.13011137 Report

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:10:35 No.13011145 Report

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Ice-Fighting-Dark-Ground
0-0-163-525

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:12:30 No.13011160 Report

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>>13011118

Jesus fuck, is there anything that can run this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:12:36 No.13011162 Report

Quoted By: >>13011190 >>13011266

This is cool and all but no Pokemon can viably learn these kind of type combinations as moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:14:29 No.13011179 Report

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>>13011145

Ice-Fighting-Ground-Rock

0-0-162-526

Based Nidoking.

sage

sage Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:14:53 No.13011181 Report

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>>13011130
in this one case, Wide Lens might actually have some use.

Either that or you could use it really well on a gravity team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:15:38 No.13011190 Report

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>>13011162
Here's a more practical one then
Dragon + ground
1-2-487-198

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:17:20 No.13011210 Report

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>>13011160
Haxorus with Aerial Ace, Thunder (lol), Superpower and Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:17:32 No.13011212 Report

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>>13011190
we're operating under the assumption that this is an all-out attacker. 4 attacking moves, so go crazy on the coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:18:00 No.13011216 Report

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>>13011190
dragon/ground/fire is more common
0 No Effect-0 Not Very Effective
-341 Normal Effectiveness-347 Super Effective

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:18:31 No.13011223 Report

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>>13011160
>>13011118

Dragonite

Thunderpunch/bolt
Aerial Ace/Fly/Sky Drop
Earthquake/Bulldoze
Brick Break/Focus Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:19:04 No.13011230 Report

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>>13011179
>not running Sludge wave on Nidoking

I know it'll ruin the coverage but thats downright impractical

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:19:22 No.13011234 Report

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>>13011212
These are Garchomp's STABs, any all out attacker can rip shit up, I'm looking for STAB Combos and boosters that can do the same with more limited moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:19:22 No.13011235 Report

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>>13011160
>>13011118
>Shock Wave
>Aerial Ace
>Aura Sphere
>Drill Run

Three never miss and one has high crit rate. Can anything run THIS?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:21:03 No.13011251 Report

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:21:14 No.13011254 Report

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>>13011160
>>13011223
Landorus.
Quake, Rock Smash, Fly, HP Electric

Not the best user, but still

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:21:32 No.13011261 Report

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>>13011137
so close

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:21:56 No.13011266 Report

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>>13011162
Sheer Force Nidoking
Life Orb
Earth Power
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:22:30 No.13011279 Report

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>>13011235
Smeargle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:22:47 No.13011282 Report

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>>13011254
Landorus can also use Focus Miss. It's better than Rock Smash, at least.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:22:56 No.13011284 Report

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>>13011266

>choice specs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:23:37 No.13011296 Report

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What's the worst coverage you can have with 4 different move types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:23:38 No.13011297 Report

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>>13011261
Abomasnow
>Wood Hammer
>Ice Shard
>Brick Break
>Stone Edge? If not, Rock Tomb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:23:46 No.13011298 Report

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>>13011266

Nidoking has the most insane movepool ever. Literally the only reason he's not uber is his speed isn't higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:24:44 No.13011314 Report

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>>13011284
>Sheer Force Nidoking
>Anything but Life Orb
ya blew it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:24:50 No.13011315 Report

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>>13011284
Life Orb sheer force is superior.
>not using the 120 power variants under gravity, which also makes flying types vulnerable to ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:25:23 No.13011328 Report

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>>13011282
IDK honestly I just went on the Bulbapedia move list and grabbed the first physical fighting type move I saw

I feel like Fly being his only flying-type move hurts him, and running Hidden Power on him is largely a waste of a move slot,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:26:24 No.13011344 Report

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>>13011296
Normal-Ghost-Dark-Poison is the worst I could do...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:26:35 No.13011346 Report

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>>13011296
Normal, steel, electric, ghost?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:26:39 No.13011347 Report

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>there's more pokemon that resist Grass than those that take neutral damage
I knew it was offensively bad, but come on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:27:40 No.13011363 Report

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>>13011344

Normal, Dragon, Poison, Bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:28:28 No.13011369 Report

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>>13011347
>2013
>still thinking stats like this mean anything
casual

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:28:31 No.13011371 Report

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>>13011298
>they give a special item to Nidoking that boosts his speed by 50%, his attacking stats by 20%, and boosts his accuracy by one stage
>Thunder, Blizzard, Fire Blast, Stone Edge Nidoking goes Uber
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:28:39 No.13011374 Report

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>>13011296
Normal-Ghost-Dark-Steel

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:29:45 No.13011387 Report

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>>13011296
Normal, Dragon, Steel, Poison is 1-31-512-144

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:30:46 No.13011395 Report

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>>13011363
I will not value Shedinja higher than a NVE, so mine still wins...

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:31:15 No.13011403 Report

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>>13011296

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:34:01 No.13011436 Report

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nice try. you all can go home

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:34:03 No.13011437 Report

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>>13011347
i guess outside of shedinja's wonder guard, they also didn't include abilities like sap sipper and water absorb, hell, didn't even include levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:34:09 No.13011439 Report

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Heads up for people using ground it doesn't count levitators

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:34:26 No.13011446 Report

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>>13011296
normal-ghost-dragon-dark is
0-31-537-120

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:34:42 No.13011449 Report

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:35:05 No.13011454 Report

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>>13011436

>i didnt read the very first reply to the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:36:53 No.13011471 Report

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>>13011446
there is a 0-33 ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:37:28 No.13011479 Report

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>>13011449
It doesn't even have as good of a SE count as the good one.
>>13011436
>>13011118

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:38:24 No.13011491 Report

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>>13011436
i don't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:43:09 No.13011549 Report

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>>13011479
Yea I noticed that after posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:43:14 No.13011552 Report

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>>13011160
Bouffalant
- Wild Charge
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Superpower

Mew / Dialga / Palkia / Giratina
- Thunderbolt
- Earth Power
- Aura Sphere
- Hidden Power Flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:43:23 No.13011555 Report

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This thing needs tons of settings, like gravity, sun and rain. Distinguishing stab moves, testing only certain pools of pokemon etc.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:45:45 No.13011587 Report

Quoted By: >>13011614 >>13011634 >>13011770 >>13011802 >>13011896

>>13011160
>>13011552
Also

Brick Break
Earthquake
Thunderpunch
Aerial Ace

Can be learned by these

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:48:03 No.13011613 Report

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>>13011552
you forgot Nidoqueen
- Earth Power
- Aerial Ace
- Superpower / Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt

At least she gets STAB on one of the attacks

Oh, and there's also Nidoking if you're willing to replace Aerial Ace with 35 base power Peck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:48:06 No.13011614 Report

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>>13011587
What did you use for that?

Lizerd

Lizerd Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:49:06 No.13011625 Report

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>>13011223
How about:
Dragonite @Leftovers or Wide Lens
Inner Focus or Multiscale
4 HP/252 Sp.Attack/252 Speed
Modest
-Thunder
-Hurricane
-HP Ground
-Focus Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:49:38 No.13011634 Report

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>>13011587
that'd be brutal on a Guts Ursaring, too bad you can't have Facade though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:50:20 No.13011642 Report

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>>13011614
serebii.net / games / moveset-bw.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:51:23 No.13011657 Report

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>>13011634
It would also be killer on a Regigigas if you null his ability in doubles or triples. Drain Punch makes it even better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:51:32 No.13011659 Report

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>>13011625
that set is pretty much begging for an expert belt though

Lizerd

Lizerd Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:53:29 No.13011676 Report

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>>13011659
Not much use if it's moves keep missing, though Drizzletoad could help with Thunder and Hurricane.
Yeah Epurt Belt would work on a team with Drizzletoad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:54:33 No.13011682 Report

Quoted By: >>13011719

There should be a tool where you enter 4 moves and it shows which pokemon can learn that combination, if any.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:57:22 No.13011719 Report

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>>13011682
see >>13011642
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:57:40 No.13011724 Report

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>>13011625
I don't think even SE HP Ground is going to hit anything for more than a STAB Hurricane is. Even 4x weak shit like Magnezone gets hit just as hard by Focus Blast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 21:57:49 No.13011729 Report

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>>13011160
Gliscor

Thunder Fang
Earthquake
Acrobatics
Sky Uppercut

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:00:03 No.13011757 Report

Quoted By: >>13011778 >>13011834

>tfw Terrakion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:01:01 No.13011770 Report

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>>13011587
No wonder my Emerald Sceptile kicked so much ass. Aerial Ace, Brick Break, Leaf Blade, Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:01:50 No.13011778 Report

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>>13011757
>Running Earthquake on Terrakion
>ever

Lizerd

Lizerd Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:03:01 No.13011795 Report

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>>13011724
FB 120(2)=240
HP 70(4)=280
40 point difference, but chances are it's running Sturdy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:03:25 No.13011802 Report

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>>13011587
Which of those are immune to Earthquake and not banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:03:48 No.13011811 Report

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>>13011724
Hurricane + STAB = 180 BP
2xSE Focus Blast = 240
4xSE HP Ground = 280

would work great to fuck up magnezone and heatran, especially if you're using expert belt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:04:13 No.13011814 Report

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>>13011802
....Dragonite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:05:24 No.13011823 Report

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>>13011802
Charizard

Good luck with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:06:15 No.13011834 Report

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>>13011757
>>13011778
>having a fighting and a ground move on the same set
>ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:07:34 No.13011849 Report

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>>13011834
Better than Xscissor on the band set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:08:14 No.13011857 Report

Quoted By: >>13011868 >>13011879 >>13011909

>>13011802
if they would just modify Truant to make it so that the only thing Slaking couldn't do was use an ATTACKING move consecutively, then Slaking would be a good candidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:09:21 No.13011868 Report

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>>13011857
oh sorry, didn't read "Immune to Earthquake"

But it would still be a good mon if that happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:10:27 No.13011879 Report

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>>13011857
>double edge
>slack off
>double edge
>slack off
Yeah nah.

Slaking is overhyped anyway though. Just giveit a minor drawback like Klutz

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:10:40 No.13011880 Report

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>>13011795
For too long I've lived a lie believing Focus Blast had 140 BP, goodness me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:10:41 No.13011881 Report

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>>13011795
if you're facing a magnezone without magnet-pull, chances are your opponent's brain damaged and shouldn't be hard to beat either way
sturdy's only useful for leads and phazers, and maybe users of flail, reversal, and endeavor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:12:06 No.13011896 Report

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>>13011879
I was referring to the set proposed by >>13011587 bro.
but yeah, slack off would be its best friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:13:47 No.13011909 Report

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>>13011857
haven't tried it myself yet, but having a slaking and cofagrigus on the same set ought to be pretty neat, get your opponent to hit you cofragigus with a contant move, so it gets the mummy, then switch in slaking, use pursuit and bye bye truant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:15:02 No.13011925 Report

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>>13011849
u wot

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:15:26 No.13011932 Report

Quoted By: >>13012002

>>13011160
Gallade @Choice Scarf
Steadfast or Justified
4 HP/252 Attack/ 252 Speed
Adamant
-Thunder Punch
-Aerial Ace
-Earthquake
-Close Combat

The only one that seems to learn Close Combat out of the ones that other anons have listed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:16:12 No.13011941 Report

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>>13011230

Earth Power is all the STAB you need on Nidoking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:20:25 No.13012002 Report

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>>13011932
This is probably the best physical set in this thread, aside from maybe Terrakion of course. I would recommend a Jolly nature if you want to actually use this (you shouldn't) so you can outspeed Dragonite at +1 and everything under 427

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:23:01 No.13012033 Report

Quoted By: >>13012064

Someone make a script to try ever combination.

Lizerd

Lizerd Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:26:27 No.13012064 Report

Quoted By: >>13012127

>>13012033
That's around 290.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2013 22:32:09 No.13012127 Report

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>>13012064
i think you underestimated that a little

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