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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 18:57:12 No.13021135 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13021233 >>13021455 >>13022130

Landorous is now Ubers

How do you guys feel about this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 18:57:51 No.13021143 Report

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What really? Completely undeserved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:00:53 No.13021173 Report

Quoted By: >>13021403

Landorus is a shit pokemon. Was this a ban for being overpowered or a ban for being "centralizing"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:01:25 No.13021183 Report

Quoted By: >>13021194 >>13021213

Smogon's Dex still says otherwise.

Proof or it never happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:02:33 No.13021194 Report

Quoted By: >>13021247

>>13021183
Smogon dex takes time to update, check the forums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:02:54 No.13021199 Report

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good, sandstormfags are now slightly less powerful
now if we can ban keldeo then I'll actually enjoy the metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:03:06 No.13021201 Report

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>Just to inform everyone, this reached Uber around Jabba's vote.

>Nerd Iconic will give you exact / correct numbers, but around Jabba's vote I had counted 82 uber / 57 do not ban / 3 abstain, and iirc we had 164 voters, so we needed 83 for uber, but the 3 abstains made it 82 for uber.

the community made its choice, and i'm okay with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:03:53 No.13021213 Report

Quoted By: >>13021247 >>13021274

>>13021183

http://smogon.com/forums/threads/ou-round-11-suspect-voting.3485737/#post-4759571

164 voters

83 voted to ban it
57 voted do not ban
3 abstained from voting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:05:37 No.13021233 Report

Quoted By: >>13021252

>>13021135

>Banning Landorus
>Not Keldeo

Didn't know Smogon was full of Rain Cocksuckers.

even though Keldeo doesn't need to be banned, if they wanted to ban a pokemon, he deserves it way more than Landorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:06:18 No.13021241 Report

Quoted By: >>13021259

Why was it suspect in the first place? Because Keldorus + Ttar is popular? It's not even that great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:06:54 No.13021247 Report

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>>13021194
>>13021213

Proof provided, thanks.

Eh, I use the furbait form on my team anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:07:33 No.13021252 Report

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>>13021233
keldeo is being tested (again) next

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:08:16 No.13021259 Report

Quoted By: >>13021273

>>13021241
have you used the special attacker set? incredibly difficult to handle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:09:51 No.13021273 Report

Quoted By: >>13021292 >>13021301

>>13021259
Yes. I face the special attacker, choice Ttar, expert belt hp bug keldeo offensive core on the ladder. It's not that hard to stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:10:02 No.13021274 Report

Quoted By: >>13021331

>>13021213
wow, 58% voted in favor of the ban?
what a bunch of fucking idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:11:26 No.13021292 Report

Quoted By: >>13021308

>>13021273
please share how you do that exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:11:43 No.13021296 Report

Quoted By: >>13021331

How about we just move every Pokemon other than Uber down a tier, then make OU for Pokemon that were banned for no reason? Smogon's userbase is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:12:09 No.13021301 Report

Quoted By: >>13021319

>>13021273
ttar and keldeo don't really have anything to do with the ban itself, lando is a powerful threat on its own

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:12:55 No.13021308 Report

Quoted By: >>13021453

>>13021292
I run a rainstall team with a subprotect toxicroak and latias.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:13:52 No.13021319 Report

Quoted By: >>13021335 >>13021341 >>13021372

>>13021301
Have of OU is a powerful threat on their own but not unbeatable, just like Landerous.

This is literally "you beat me with X, so I'm going to ban X instead of actually getting better" on a site-wide scale.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:14:36 No.13021331 Report

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>>13021296
>>13021274

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:15:13 No.13021335 Report

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>>13021319
*Half of

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:16:00 No.13021341 Report

Quoted By: >>13021347 >>13021349

>>13021319
no its not
it's "hmm, everyone is using X instead of A, B or C, so lets remove X to give the metagame some more diversity"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:16:12 No.13021344 Report

Quoted By: >>13021400 >>13021433

If you moved a bunch of pokemon from ubers that were previously OU down like genesect and deoxys-S it would balance these "broken" pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:16:49 No.13021347 Report

Quoted By: >>13021821

>>13021341

But Landorus is only #13 in usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:16:57 No.13021349 Report

Quoted By: >>13021361 >>13021467

>>13021341
Guess what, there's always going to be an X, it's a futile effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:18:27 No.13021361 Report

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>>13021349
yes, but it'll take a while of looking through A, B and C until they declare one of them the next X
even then it wont be as useful as the original X, and people will still use A and B if C becomes X

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:18:28 No.13021363 Report

Quoted By: >>13021373 >>13021386

Good. Legendaries have no place in any tier with real pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:19:05 No.13021370 Report

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http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/landorus

So when are they going to delete the OU sets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:19:25 No.13021372 Report

Quoted By: >>13021393

>>13021319
>This is literally "you beat me with X, so I'm going to ban X instead of actually getting better"
if you actually think this is smogon's mentality, you're clueless and shouldn't be discussing this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:19:25 No.13021373 Report

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>>13021363
>implying there's any difference between a legendary and a pokemon like dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:20:15 No.13021386 Report

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>>13021363
this is b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:20:46 No.13021393 Report

Quoted By: >>13021421 >>13021428

>>13021372
Except it actually is. Landerous is very beatable in OU and it's going to be useless in Uber. There is absolutely no reason to ban Landerous other than "you beat my team".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:21:07 No.13021400 Report

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>>13021344
So much this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:21:22 No.13021403 Report

Quoted By: >>13021859

>>13021173
It was a ban because Smogon has gone into withdrawls since it's been what like a two months since they banned something last?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:22:33 No.13021421 Report

Quoted By: >>13021430

>>13021393
That has always been Smogon, though. That's why rain teams are still overpowered and common but shit like Combusken is in the same circle as fucking Mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:23:07 No.13021428 Report

Quoted By: >>13021449 >>13021507 >>13021802

>>13021393
it's banned because it's almost impossible to switch into safely and its absence makes the metagame more diverse and more enjoyable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:23:17 No.13021430 Report

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>>13021421
Combusken is NU moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:23:21 No.13021433 Report

Quoted By: >>13021456 >>13021497

>>13021344

No, it wouldn't

You clearly didn't play OU when Genesect was around

The fucker was on every team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:24:27 No.13021449 Report

Quoted By: >>13021470 >>13021499

>>13021428
>it's almost impossible to switch into safely
That's pretty much every OU sweeper though. That's terrakion, that's garchomp, hell it's arguably breloom

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:24:51 No.13021453 Report

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>>13021308
Not him, but this loses hard to Lando.
What do you do when you have Toxi in against him? You can't stay in and risk getting killed by earth power.
If you switch to Latias you risk getting U-turned on and trapped by Ttar.
You can't really stay in so he'll just U-turn, get rid of your Latias and sweep you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:25:01 No.13021455 Report

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>>13021135
good
most legends should just be ubers anyway
not that they'er unbeatable, but their high stats make them to easy to abuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:25:09 No.13021456 Report

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>>13021433
I played Genesect OU, excellent meta. Better than the current one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:25:59 No.13021467 Report

Quoted By: >>13021502

>>13021349

This, as soon you remove the best player(s) from the game another one(s) will take the spot and decisions will start to be made around him (or the top 4-5 mons, rather).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:26:14 No.13021470 Report

Quoted By: >>13021484

>>13021449
those all have several counters and have other flaws of their own

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:26:45 No.13021483 Report

Quoted By: >>13021504

I'll never understand it. Why is it games for children are the ones that become the most "forced" competitive, While games that are perfectly suitable for it aren't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:26:48 No.13021484 Report

Quoted By: >>13021509 >>13021510

>>13021470
Like Landorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:27:12 No.13021492 Report

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I'm a retired smogonfag and this ban was necessary.

I reached a 1850+ score with the bread-and-butter team (Tyranitar + Keldeo + Landorus + Scizor + Latios + Terrakion). Landorus and Keldeo really made it too easy to win.

Hopefully they ban Keldeo, too. Terrakion is allowed to leave, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:27:28 No.13021497 Report

Quoted By: >>13021531

>>13021433
I loved genesect OU
I never used him, but it was fun as hell trying to predict all of the U-turns they used

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:27:42 No.13021499 Report

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>>13021449
None of these are as strong as Landorus, immune to 2 hazards, have access to U-turn and can carry a special or physical set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:27:49 No.13021502 Report

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>>13021467
nope. gen 4 ended up with a balanced OU and the lower gen 5 tiers have all been static for months. gen 5 OU is just unbalanced by nature and thus requires more bans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:28:05 No.13021504 Report

Quoted By: >>13022509

>>13021483
Because those games are usually fucking boring.
Games that are made in a competitive mold are usually sterile and boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:28:14 No.13021507 Report

Quoted By: >>13021548 >>13021553 >>13021811

>>13021428
>it's almost impossible to switch into safely
Far from the only one.

>its absence makes the metagame more diverse and more enjoyable
Yes, banning a Pokemon that was being outused by a quarter of the OU is going to diversify the metagame. If anything it's going to make the metagame more centralized around the Pokemon that Landerous previously countered, especially since Landerous counters one of the most dominant team strategies in OU. Fuck, that's their whole reason for keeping Jirachi OU instead of Uber, because removing him would make OU centralized around what Jirachi previously countered. It's the same with Landerous and the OU meta is going to suffer for it, while the Uber meta isn't going to change at all because Landerous will be useless there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:28:18 No.13021509 Report

Quoted By: >>13021536 >>13021831

>>13021484
Name one Landorus counter that doesn't get killed by U-turn + Ttar pursuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:28:22 No.13021510 Report

Quoted By: >>13021536

>>13021484
yeah okay let's see your landorus counters then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:29:04 No.13021518 Report

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http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue6/ask_admins

>Long ago, Smogon could have been accurately described as elitism incarnate. Decisions about Pokemon policy and the site were made by the administration and were passed down from on high. Over the past couple of years, a more participative and open environment has developed. The contributions of the Smogon users themselves are valued much more highly, and there are various channels through which anyone can contribute. A particular example of the shift is embodied in the Suspect Test process. Before, when a question of tiering had to be made, the director of the Smogon Tour essentially did what he saw fit and that was that. We've obviously transitioned to a model that gives a voice to the community to participate in the decisions that affect the game that we all love so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:30:02 No.13021531 Report

Quoted By: >>13021539

>>13021497
Genesect was fun to play against, I'll admit.

But fuck, Landorus and Keldeo aren't even mildly fun to play against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:30:34 No.13021536 Report

Quoted By: >>13021547 >>13021554 >>13021590

>>13021510
>>13021509
I'm not him but Weavile works
Ice punch if they're not scarfed, ice Shard if they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:30:51 No.13021539 Report

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>>13021531
Bring back genesect and Deoxys-S, all I ask

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:31:28 No.13021541 Report

Quoted By: >>13021551

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:31:56 No.13021547 Report

Quoted By: >>13021609

>>13021536

Weavile is not a counter, because it cannot switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:31:55 No.13021548 Report

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>>13021507
>Yes, banning a Pokemon that was being outused by a quarter of the OU is going to diversify the metagame

That's where it becomes obvious that you don't really have a clue about the current metagame.
Landorus was completely broken against balance and stall teams, but since these are not as present as more offensive teams due to getting destroyed by things like Landorus or Kyurem-B, it wasn't used as much as pokemon that are better against other offensive teams.
Having less (almost) uncounterable threats like Landorus will make defensive teams more viable again and thus, diversify the metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:31:58 No.13021551 Report

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>>13021541
Wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:32:30 No.13021553 Report

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>>13021507
>thinks the uber metagame is relevant to OU's bans
>doesn't realize landorus was previously usable in ubers
just stop you don't know what you're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:32:31 No.13021554 Report

Quoted By: >>13021565 >>13021609

>>13021536
A counter can reliably switch into a pokemon and kill it.
Weavile can't switch into Landorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:33:36 No.13021565 Report

Quoted By: >>13021593 >>13021607 >>13021610 >>13021618

>>13021554
Name an OU pokemon that can reliably switch into Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:34:44 No.13021590 Report

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>>13021536
>2013
>not knowing what a counter is
right, let's bring back rayquaza into OU because we can just ice shard it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:34:58 No.13021593 Report

Quoted By: >>13021603

>>13021565
Are you serious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:35:36 No.13021603 Report

Quoted By: >>13021629

>>13021593
Or Hydreigon for that matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:36:11 No.13021607 Report

Quoted By: >>13021621

>>13021565
skarmory, bronzong, landorus-t, gliscor, hippowdon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:36:36 No.13021609 Report

Quoted By: >>13021646

>>13021547
>>13021554
huh, in that case I can't actually think of anything
Azumarill I guess?
it's bulky enough to take a hit and a banded aqua jet could shut it down right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:36:36 No.13021610 Report

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>>13021565
Skarmory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:37:17 No.13021618 Report

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>>13021565
Porygon 2 with hidden power ice, air balloon heatran, any steel type with levitate or air balloon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:37:51 No.13021621 Report

Quoted By: >>13021643 >>13021658 >>13021659

>>13021607
Have fun beating the sub SD set with lando and gliscor. Fireblast from a chain chomp set can easily beat skarmory and bronzong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:38:27 No.13021629 Report

Quoted By: >>13021641

>>13021603
Any steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:39:56 No.13021641 Report

Quoted By: >>13021650

>>13021629
>Hydreigon
>the pokemon that commonly uses Dragon/fire/ground/fighting coverage on its all out attack sets
>countered by any steel

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:40:20 No.13021643 Report

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>>13021621
>2013
>chainchomp
is this nigga serious?

also, a big difference between garchomp and landorus is that 1) garchomp relies too much on outrage and 2) doesn't have u-turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:40:37 No.13021646 Report

Quoted By: >>13021685

>>13021609
Azumarril is a shit pokemon and it can't even 1HKO it.
Hurricane: 16.92 - 20.06%

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 260-308 (81.5 - 96.55%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
50% chance after SR

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:41:07 No.13021650 Report

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>>13021641

Hydreigon is irrelevant anyway because it sucks in the current metagame

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:41:45 No.13021655 Report

Quoted By: >>13021664 >>13021665 >>13021679

>Ban every pokemon to ubers
>Don't ban the stupid frog

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:42:23 No.13021658 Report

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>>13021621
>counter these three different sets all with the same pokemon or it's not a counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:42:36 No.13021659 Report

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>>13021621

And lol ChainChomp

This is Gen 5, nobody uses that anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:42:54 No.13021664 Report

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>>13021655
if gen 5 wasn't ending so quickly, drizzle would be banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:43:09 No.13021665 Report

Quoted By: >>13021681

>>13021655
>Ban weather everyone uses hyper offensive teams.
Why don't they ban Jirachi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:43:48 No.13021671 Report

Quoted By:

Please ban Water horse Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:44:41 No.13021677 Report

Quoted By: >>13021695 >>13021709 >>13021710 >>13021736 >>13022307

guys...
the real problem here is U-Turn
so, let's ban U-Turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:44:46 No.13021678 Report

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I don't understand why people think Garchomp is even comparable to Lando.
Garchomp can only kill things if it locks itself into outrage and gets revengekilled by any ice shard user/steel afterwards or sets up, while Lando can switch out after it killed something or even lure in its counters and U-turn to Ttar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:44:53 No.13021679 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021655

Every team would become Custap Lead Skarmory and five sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:45:07 No.13021681 Report

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>>13021665
muh paraflinch

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:45:16 No.13021682 Report

Quoted By: >>13021691 >>13021707

What was their reasoning behind banning LANDORUS-I?

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:45:26 No.13021685 Report

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>>13021646
>Azumarril is a shit pokemon
those are fightin words son

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:45:55 No.13021691 Report

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>>13021682
Read the thread on Smogon or this thread you lazy, stupid piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:46:20 No.13021695 Report

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>>13021677
That uhhhh...yeah. That makes some sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:47:27 No.13021707 Report

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>>13021682

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-bw-ou-suspect-testing-round-11-genie-in-a-bottle-landorus-is-now-uber.3484919/

Read the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:47:46 No.13021709 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021677
Holy shit... Truer words have never been spoken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:47:50 No.13021710 Report

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>>13021677
To be honest, U-turn should be banned.
It's just a retarded move that gives so much advantage with minimal risk almost every time you use it.
Volt-Turn or more than one U-turn user is even more retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:49:15 No.13021728 Report

Quoted By:

If you guys are better than smogon, battle with them until you reach the higher levels. Based on your frequent threads on how terrible smogon is, you should do this quite easily. Then, fucking vote when it comes to these polls.

Done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:50:11 No.13021736 Report

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>>13021677
only U-Turn though, Volt Switch can be blocked by ground types or Volt Absorb w/e
just my opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:56:26 No.13021802 Report

Quoted By: >>13021817 >>13021875

>>13021428

>Rain will now run Rampart, but Smogon wont ban weather because they love sucking it's cock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:57:29 No.13021811 Report

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>>13021507

At least 5th gen is almost dead so right now it doesn't matter what they ban cause they'll jsut move on to 6th gen in 6 months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:58:11 No.13021817 Report

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>>13021802
>Everyone starts using Water Types that learn Grass Knot and/or Thunderbolt and have Abilities that benefit in Rain
>This will continue until something more bullshit than Rain shows up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:58:39 No.13021821 Report

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>>13021347
yeah i don't understand this. see ttar, KELDEO scizor, mence, and terrakion way more. how did they pick lando?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 19:59:32 No.13021831 Report

Quoted By: >>13021844 >>13021852 >>13021880

>>13021509

Mamoswine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:00:59 No.13021844 Report

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>>13021831

Can't switch in safely, thus is not a counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:01:59 No.13021852 Report

Quoted By: >>13022399

>>13021831
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mamoswine: 344-407 (95.29 - 112.74%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:02:45 No.13021859 Report

Quoted By: >>13021891 >>13021904 >>13021906

>>13021403
Probably countered one of their teams. That seems to be how they decide what gets banned nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:03:39 No.13021875 Report

Quoted By: >>13021903

>>13021802
Its not like landorus shut down rain.
I'm personally hoping XY intoduces a pikemon that assrapes rain teams.
imagine what would happen to OU if there was a pokemon that had 150 special attack or attack, 70 speed, swift swim, and was an electric/fighting type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:04:11 No.13021880 Report

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>>13021831

I'm pretty sure the only thing Mamoswine can switch into is Psychic but

>Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:05:04 No.13021888 Report

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As a stall player, this pleases me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:05:07 No.13021891 Report

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>>13021859
>smogon players
>not abusing the most powerful things avaliable
you make them sound like karenfags for banning stuff thats too strong for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:05:38 No.13021896 Report

Quoted By: >>13021907 >>13021916 >>13021925

Ban anything thats a threat to your rain teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:05:59 No.13021903 Report

Quoted By: >>13021919 >>13022095

>>13021875

I'm not saying Landorus did either, but Sand is pratically losing all of their sweepers and rain is barely touched except arguably with Thundrus-I, but Thundrus has a lot more problems then just being a little wet sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:06:04 No.13021904 Report

Quoted By: >>13021958 >>13022459

>>13021859

Nah, Smogon bans whatever isn't fun to play against

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:06:20 No.13021906 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021859
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
Landorus is only completely broken against balance and stall, both of which are barely used in the current meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:06:24 No.13021907 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021896
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:07:19 No.13021916 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021896

Terrakion is next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:07:38 No.13021919 Report

Quoted By: >>13021961

>>13021903
rain lost out on Tornadus therian not so long ago
now THAT thing was fucking broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:07:57 No.13021923 Report

Quoted By: >>13021933 >>13021959

>Politoed, Terrakium, Ferrothorn, Landorus, Moxiemence, Keldeo => Uber = OU is now a enjoyable tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:08:06 No.13021925 Report

Quoted By: >>13022074

>>13021896
>Landorus
>especially threatening against rain
Why do people this retarded always have to post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:08:20 No.13021926 Report

Quoted By: >>13021940 >>13021945 >>13021946

Why aren't they banning the pokemon that are actually at the top of the usage figures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:08:54 No.13021933 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021923
*Terrakion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:09:27 No.13021938 Report

Quoted By:

Great news. Ban Keldeo and the metagame will become slightly more diverse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:09:31 No.13021940 Report

Quoted By: >>13022129

>>13021926

Because usage =/= power

Scizor is the most used Pokemon in OU, should it be banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:10:05 No.13021945 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021926
So let's assume you aren't baiting and are a total retard instead.
If usage was a criterium for banning pokemon, there would be no pokemon left in OU since one pokemon will always have the highest usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:10:07 No.13021946 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021926
Why aren't they going back to simpler times like Gen 1 when all you had to do was have a team of 6 Mewtwo that use the same moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:11:07 No.13021958 Report

Quoted By: >>13021965

>>13021904
>except keldeo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:11:11 No.13021959 Report

Quoted By: >>13021968

>>13021923
That tier would kinda look like UU. You should play UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:11:54 No.13021961 Report

Quoted By: >>13021977 >>13021978

>>13021919
only cause U-Turn + Regenerator
Mainly U-Turn on top of everything else it had

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:12:28 No.13021965 Report

Quoted By: >>13021995

>>13021958
Keldeo is suspected right after Lando.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:12:47 No.13021968 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021959
That should be good. Tired of fucking Weather teams which are ALL the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:13:57 No.13021977 Report

Quoted By: >>13022029

>>13021961
>Smogon doesn't ban rain stuff because they love rain :(
>Uh yes, it banned Torn-T not long ago
>Well, that was only because it was broken
Please never participate in arguments again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:13:59 No.13021978 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021961
100% accurate 120BP STAB move with a 30% chance of confusing helped it too
of course this is only in rain, but where else do you fucking use tornadus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:15:42 No.13021995 Report

Quoted By: >>13022034

>>13021965
i get that, but keldeo is more used and better than lando. why wasn't he first?
inb4 rainfaggotry, but that probably was it...

the more i think about it the more i like banning uturn. it's too good of a move and too many mons get it. lando, tornadus wouldn't be uber, scizor would be solid instead of god tier, the possibilities are endless. maybe even just banning it in OU and maybe ubers, since most of the strong uturners are up there anyway. i admittedly don't know much about lower tiers.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:19:54 No.13022029 Report

Quoted By: >>13022056

>>13021977
U-Turn is the thing that pushed it over the edge I believe.
Not even arguing, just trying to give attention to U-Turn which seems to be a major problem because the last three bans had a "u-turn momentum" argument.
...unless you're suggesting that Mienshao is broken too, cause it has U-Turn + Regenerator also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:20:03 No.13022034 Report

Quoted By: >>13022055 >>13022346

>>13021995
Keldeo can actually be countered and doesn't wreck stall on its own while also taking full hazards.
Double stab hydropumps are still retarded so it might get banned too.

There is a thread on Smogon about banning U-turn with a lot of decent arguments.
I personally would also be in favor of banning it, it's a move that completely counteracts what pokemon should be about, namely prediction.
Why predict when you can get a free switch after you see which pokemon he brought?
It also pushed Torn-T and Lando and probably even Genesect over the edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:21:58 No.13022055 Report

Quoted By: >>13022071 >>13022091

>>13022034
U-turn is pretty abusable, but it's not broken all on it's own.

It's an interesting idea though, so test it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:21:58 No.13022056 Report

Quoted By: >>13022095

>>13022029
I never said this wasn't the case, I was just observing that you claimed they wouldn't ban stuff used on rain teams and when presented with proof of the opposite, replied with a fallacious post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:23:15 No.13022071 Report

Quoted By: >>13022102

>>13022055
I think it's broken on anything that is strong enough(has the stats and movepool) to force a lot of things to switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:23:39 No.13022074 Report

Quoted By: >>13022107

>>13021925

>Kill Politoed
>Switch in tyranitar/Hippodon
>sack them for Landorus
>Rape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:25:01 No.13022091 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022055
>U-turn is pretty abusable, but it's not broken all on it's own.
what does that mean? i mean it's not broken on mediocre to shit mons, but it is ALONE what pushes several over the edge into overpowered. why run a great sweeper when you can run a great sweeper with uturn?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:25:34 No.13022095 Report

Quoted By: >>13022120

>>13022056
I'm not >>13021903
if you want the truth, I was replying to you saying Therian Tornadus was broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:26:07 No.13022102 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022071
Definitely, and how it affects its counters play into it too.

All of llandorus' counters were pursuit, and most U-turn weak, so you just got a free switch to Ttar and they were eliminated.

I don't think the move itself is broken though. Often its just for scouting and small chip damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:26:25 No.13022107 Report

Quoted By: >>13022143

>>13022074
Are you trolling or legitimately underage so you can't actually make decent arguments?
First of all, you assume that you win the weather war without any particular reason for doing so.
Second, you assume rain teams give a shit about Landorus.
Landorus easily gets outsped and/or revengekilled by most of the pokemon these teams carry.
It's performance against rain wasn't what made it broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:27:57 No.13022120 Report

Quoted By: >>13022155

>>13022095
I wasn't the one saying Torn-T was broken, I just saw someone (you) replying to someone mentioning a ban against rain with a justification for it. Of course it was op, otherwise it wouldn't have been banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:28:28 No.13022127 Report

Quoted By: >>13022137

when are they suspect testing hazards?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:28:39 No.13022129 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021940

Yes, just to see the babies cry in a frenzy when they don't know what to do anymore without Boolet Pawnch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:28:45 No.13022130 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021135
good riddance i say one less broken legendary plaguing my beautiful OU metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:29:28 No.13022137 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022127
There will be a SR less ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:29:56 No.13022143 Report

Quoted By: >>13022149

>>13022107

They gave enough of a shit to ban it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:30:36 No.13022147 Report

Quoted By: >>13022189 >>13022209 >>13022212

Gengar with HP Ice is literally the perfect counter, I'm surprised that people didn't realize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:30:51 No.13022149 Report

Quoted By: >>13022153

>>13022143
Just stop, I'm feeling my brain cells commit suicide just reading your posts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:31:17 No.13022153 Report

Quoted By: >>13022156

>>13022149

:)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:31:40 No.13022155 Report

Quoted By: >>13022166

>>13022120
And I was just putting my two cents in suggesting that Therian Tornadus would not have been banned if it didn't have access to U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:31:46 No.13022156 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022153
;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:33:04 No.13022166 Report

Quoted By: >>13022249

>>13022155
Which isn't really related to the two previous posts.
The way someone without knowledge about the posters' identity sees this exchange, it looks like the one claiming Smogon wouldn't want to hurt rain teams was backpedaling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:35:07 No.13022189 Report

Quoted By: >>13022229

>>13022147
you gotta switch in
most likely if you switch in, it will U-Turn out and then your Gengar is checked by their switch in.
U-Turn is a free turn for the opponent in this case
I don't think a Landorus would come in on a Gengar anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:37:20 No.13022207 Report

Quoted By: >>13022256 >>13022476

Politoed should be banned and kyorge should be brought to OU. Kyorge needs more love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:37:31 No.13022209 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022147

>Gravity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:37:47 No.13022212 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022147
It is and was mentioned several times in the suspect test thread.
However, it's worn down quite easily by SR and Sandstorm damage, also possible U-turn or Hp Ice and is usually weak enough to be taken out by a Hp Ice after 1 or 2 switches.
Forcing every defensive team to run Gengar is also not really a good option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:39:20 No.13022229 Report

Quoted By: >>13022242 >>13022273

>>13022189
The standard set is usually EP, Focus Blast, HP Ice and Rock Polish from what I've seen, not U-Turn too much. Plus you switch in you force him out and set up a sub or predict appropriately. If I played OU a lot I'd probably use that Gengar set, but I mainly play UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:40:22 No.13022242 Report

Quoted By: >>13022312

>>13022229
The "standard" set that was also used for a majority of the arguments was the U-turn set.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:41:11 No.13022249 Report

Quoted By: >>13022285

>>13022166
Not gonna use a trip every time I post, this is 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:42:11 No.13022256 Report

Quoted By: >>13022275 >>13022288

>>13022207
>Kyogre
>OU
Oh please Arceus no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:44:01 No.13022273 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022229
Rock Polish?
That's usually U-Turn in my case

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:44:02 No.13022275 Report

Quoted By: >>13022287 >>13022309 >>13022476

>>13022256
>Arceus
Good idea anon, let's get that one in OU too while we're at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:44:43 No.13022285 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022249
I never said you should, I just said how the circumstances made you look with your specific post.
You should read previous posts before making blind replies.
Mentioning that Torn-T was broken because it had U-turn and Regenerator didn't have anything to do with the previous exchange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:44:57 No.13022287 Report

Quoted By: >>13022476

>>13022275
each individual plate deserves testing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:45:01 No.13022288 Report

Quoted By: >>13022305 >>13022319 >>13022476

>>13022256
We just have to bring all it's counters in ubers down to OU too. Then no one will complain about politoed problem solved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:46:48 No.13022305 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022288
You mean Shedinja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:46:59 No.13022307 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021677
Wtf. Based Anon speaks the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:47:03 No.13022309 Report

Quoted By: >>13022358

>>13022275
No, it should be NU. NU needs some stronk pokes in their anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:47:28 No.13022312 Report

Quoted By: >>13022338

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:48:19 No.13022319 Report

Quoted By: >>13022342

>>13022288
It's like you want Soul Dew Latias in OU or something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:48:36 No.13022324 Report

Quoted By:

>Not banning weather as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:49:33 No.13022333 Report

Quoted By:

>Moody Glalie is banned from ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:50:29 No.13022338 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022312
>Rock Polish 38.684% |
>| U-turn 37.342% |

Also, read my post again.
I didn't say the set that was used on the majority of Landorus, I said the set that was used for the majority of arguments in the suspect thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:51:01 No.13022342 Report

Quoted By: >>13022358

>>13022319
No Soul dew latias should be UU. UU needs broken pokes too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:51:23 No.13022346 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022034
link to thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:52:36 No.13022358 Report

Quoted By: >>13022377

>>13022342
>>13022309
Guys, what about LC? Let's bring Scyther back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:54:43 No.13022377 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022358
Chansey to LC. I heard she's good with kid. Also lugia it had a kid in the anime so we could be using baby lugias.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:54:48 No.13022378 Report

Quoted By:

I'm a little shocked but I do think this was necessary. He was way too good, that's why I used him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:56:03 No.13022390 Report

Quoted By: >>13022412 >>13022503 >>13023135

Why hasn't anyone mentioned scizor yet? It's obviously the most OP mon in ou.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:56:52 No.13022399 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021852
>not running Bulky mamo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:57:31 No.13022404 Report

Quoted By: >>13023198

>switch in Blissey or Chansey
>? ? ?
>profit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 20:58:47 No.13022412 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022390
Agreed. He's going to have to go to To Ubers to ensure the new Fairies can do their job in gen 6 if Tech STAB bullet punch is going to wreck them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:02:58 No.13022459 Report

Quoted By: >>13022507

>>13021904
Entry hazards havent been banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:05:06 No.13022476 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022207
>>13022275
>>13022287
>>13022288
my ideal meta
utter chaos
like a new gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:08:41 No.13022503 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022390

It isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:09:20 No.13022507 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022459
I find entry hazards fun and necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:09:30 No.13022509 Report

Quoted By:

>>13021504

>quake
>boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:10:20 No.13022518 Report

Quoted By:

Never used it, and never wanted to.
Never had any problems fighting it.
Don't get why it was banned but don't really care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:44:46 No.13022880 Report

Quoted By:

Too good for OU, not powerful enough to be usable in Ubers

Ban is welcome though

TotalBro !79ILLStdco

TotalBro !79ILLStdco Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:49:15 No.13022934 Report

Quoted By: >>13022965 >>13022973

HAHAHAAH

Fuck all you faggots that use retarded Pokemon like Landorous competitively.

He was one of the cheapest Pokemon to use in OU and im loling hard at any of the faggots that him on their team.

Next they should ban Gliscor and OU will finally be free of cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:51:23 No.13022965 Report

Quoted By: >>13023008

>>13022934

>Gliscor
>cheap

gr8 b8 m8

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:52:22 No.13022973 Report

Quoted By: >>13023008

>>13022934
nobody likes you TotalBro
nobody will ever fall for your b8
and we never forget

TotalBro !79ILLStdco

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TotalBro !79ILLStdco Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:54:57 No.13023008 Report

Quoted By: >>13023044 >>13023075

>>13022965
>>13022973
>Actually using cancer bat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 21:57:39 No.13023044 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023008

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:00:47 No.13023075 Report

Quoted By: >>13023194

>>13023008
all you do is come on here and act like you're hot shit
you're obviously a troll, you never contribute anything to any thread you just hassle people
just go home

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:00:53 No.13023078 Report

Quoted By: >>13023108

Is Excadrill out of Ubers yet? I miss using my bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:02:12 No.13023085 Report

Quoted By: >>13023089 >>13023108

>at least one form of each of the kami trio is in ubers

I actually wasn't around when Tornadus-T got banned, what was his deal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:03:01 No.13023089 Report

Quoted By: >>13023107 >>13023122 >>13023127

>>13023085
u-turn regenerator

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:06:09 No.13023107 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023089
please don't say it, it hurts too much still

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:06:30 No.13023108 Report

Quoted By: >>13023122 >>13023146

>>13023078

No.

>>13023085

U-Turn
Regenerator
Hurricane in rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:07:57 No.13023122 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023089
>>13023108
Always with the fucking rain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:08:53 No.13023127 Report

Quoted By: >>13023131

>>13023089
Speaking of which, how the fuck did gamefreak think that would be remotely okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:09:56 No.13023131 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023127
These are the same people who gave salamence and gyarados moxie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:10:28 No.13023135 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022390
He's the stable background keeping most of the game in check. He's necessary cancer.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:11:52 No.13023146 Report

Quoted By: >>13023210 >>13023228

>>13023108

>Won't ban auto-weather abilities
>Keeps Exca in Ubers

God fucking damn it. Sand Rush Excadrill is one of the best counters to Scarf Terrakion and Infernape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:15:06 No.13023193 Report

Quoted By:

Ban autoweather
Ban U-turn and rocks
Bring back drill
Enjoy most cancerous threats being manhandled by staraptor and yanmega

TotalBro !79ILLStdco

TotalBro !79ILLStdco Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:15:08 No.13023194 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023075
I contribute more than you ever do

I actually come to thread to talk about the actualy topic being discussed

All you people ever do is complain about me being a "meanie" and "hurting your feelings"

You babies need to grow up and realize that just because people dont share the same opinions as you doesn't mean they are trolling.

I cant wait until summer is over and the kiddies like you have to go back to school and stop posting here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:15:19 No.13023198 Report

Quoted By:

>>13022404
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:16:45 No.13023210 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023146
I loved Excadrill, but come on. 550 Speed and since it has the typing and decent enough defensive stats to pull off a Swords Dance, it rarely doesn't outspeed everything while also having 810 attack before Life Orb. It fucking steam rolled.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:18:41 No.13023228 Report

Quoted By: >>13023237

>>13023146
Im pretty sure what you meant to say is Sand Rush Excadrill is one of the best counters to scarf (insert any pokemon here)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:19:47 No.13023237 Report

Quoted By: >>13023247 >>13023255 >>13023257

>>13023228
Scarf Shedinja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:20:34 No.13023247 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023237
Sand Rush Excadrill wins the match-up 100% of the time, so yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:21:05 No.13023255 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023237
Fling

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:21:22 No.13023257 Report

Quoted By: >>13023289

>>13023237
Well if for some reason sand or rocks wasnt up and you didnt carry rockslide or shadow claw yes Shedinja wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:24:41 No.13023289 Report

Quoted By: >>13023295 >>13023310

>>13023257

People actually run Shadow Claw Exca? That's a slot much better filled by Iron Head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:25:13 No.13023295 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023289
Im just saying its possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:26:47 No.13023310 Report

Quoted By: >>13023331

>>13023289
Or, you know, Rock Slide for the Ground/Rock staple coverage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:27:50 No.13023318 Report

Quoted By:

>Banning pixels

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2013 22:28:43 No.13023331 Report

Quoted By:

>>13023310

Any Decent Exca set is always running Rock Slide. It's to be expected to be there alongside Swords Dance.

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