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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:16:11 No.13071348 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13071362 >>13071970 >>13072028

>every Pokemon can learn Earthquake, Rock Slide, Focus Blast, Flamethrower etc etc

GameFreaks gives out these moves like candy and it needs to stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:17:19 No.13071362 Report

Quoted By: >>13071460

>>13071348
And while we're at it, Let's stop making Water Types!
But seriously OP, It's called type coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:17:29 No.13071363 Report

Quoted By: >>13071387 >>13071400 >>13071424 >>13071465 >>13071485

Substitute should be exclusive to Kangaskhan.

Toxic should be exclusive to Poison-types.

Don't know what GF was thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:18:19 No.13071376 Report

Quoted By: >>13071467 >>13072204

They should have limited Stealth Rock's distribution a lot too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:19:03 No.13071383 Report

Quoted By: >>13071460

No, Pokemon need coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:19:18 No.13071387 Report

Quoted By: >>13071450

>>13071363
>Substitute should be exclusive to Kangaskhan.

That's messed up!

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:20:03 No.13071400 Report

Quoted By: >>13071442 >>13071450

>>13071363
>exclusive to Kangaskhan
A-are you saying that she defends herself with her...baby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:21:58 No.13071424 Report

Quoted By: >>13072036

>>13071363
>Substitute should be exclusive to Kangaskhan.
Thank God you don't work for GF

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:22:00 No.13071426 Report

Quoted By: >>13071449

>Earthquake has massive distribution
>Barely any grass types get Earth Power
>Hydreigon gets Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:22:36 No.13071442 Report

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>>13071400
THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:23:17 No.13071449 Report

Quoted By: >>13071512

>>13071426
This. Holy FUCK does Earth Power need to have more Pokemon that can use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:23:18 No.13071450 Report

Quoted By: >>13071471 >>13071589

>>13071387
>>13071400
>not knowing the substitute sprite is a baby kangaskhan

Are you this blind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:24:24 No.13071460 Report

Quoted By: >>13071474 >>13073792

>>13071362
>>13071383
I understand it's coverage but then give it a weaker Ground attack UNLESS the Pokemon is something like say Aggron a heavy Pokemon. Fucking Ekans can learn Earthquake for God's sake,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:24:54 No.13071465 Report

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>>13071363
>Substitute should be exclusive to Kangaskhan.

lel, that's awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:25:19 No.13071467 Report

Quoted By: >>13071530 >>13071680

>>13071376
stealth rock is not a whore move as thunderbolt, earthquake, or sucker punch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:25:47 No.13071471 Report

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>>13071450

Yes, but that's not actually what it is.

The Substitute is actually a copy of the Pokemon that used it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:25:55 No.13071474 Report

Quoted By: >>13071509

>>13071460
So?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:26:40 No.13071485 Report

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>>13071363
i agree with you about substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:29:09 No.13071509 Report

Quoted By: >>13071529 >>13071549

>>13071474
So, Earthquake and stronger type moves should be limited for that type or top tier evolutions. You want a ground attack? Here's mudslap, you want Earthquake? Get a fucking ground Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:29:38 No.13071512 Report

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>>13071449
I mean, pretty much every Grass type either needs a secondary type or HP just to have decent coverage. Throw them a goddamn bone gamefreak.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:29:43 No.13071515 Report

Quoted By: >>13071540 >>13073836

It's retarded how normal types like Slaking can learn things like Thunderbolt. I mean how the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:30:46 No.13071523 Report

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Dark Pulse needs to be spread more or at least make it a TM

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:31:06 No.13071529 Report

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>>13071509
>stronger type moves should be limited for that type or top tier evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:31:11 No.13071530 Report

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>>13071467
Its distribution is ridiculous for its effect though. Toxic Spikes and Spikes have way less availability while their effect is arguably worse than Stealth Rock in a lot of situations. They should have kept Stealth Rock to a limited number of underused rock types or something so they could gain a use instead of throwing it around to Pokemon like Blissey and Azelf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:32:10 No.13071540 Report

Quoted By: >>13071548

>>13071515
>individual hairs rub together en masse
>produces individual charges
>these add up to one giant charge released as an Electric-type move such as Thunderbolt or Thunder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:32:56 No.13071548 Report

Quoted By: >>13071561

>>13071540
Thundershock maybe.

But not TB, that should be reserved for Electric-types only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:32:59 No.13071549 Report

Quoted By: >>13071556

>>13071509
There's nothing wrong with any of the lower levels pokemon learning powerful moves like EQ,Ice beam,Thunder,Etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:33:53 No.13071556 Report

Quoted By: >>13071600 >>13071616

>>13071549
>HURRR SCREW LOGIC XD
>MAGIKARP WIT HYPER BEAM XDDDD

You are the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:34:20 No.13071561 Report

Quoted By: >>13071601

>>13071548
non-STAB Thunderbolt < STAB Thunderbolt

No issue.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:36:08 No.13071589 Report

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>>13071450
>thinking the substitute sprite is a baby kangaskhan

Are you this blind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:36:49 No.13071600 Report

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>>13071556
>Twisting my post
>Trying to find logic in a game with creatures doing stuff like creating tidal waves.
You are the dumbest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:36:51 No.13071601 Report

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>>13071561
STAB doesnt matter if you can still 1 or 2 hit KO a pokemon due to hitting its weakness regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:37:27 No.13071607 Report

Quoted By: >>13071629

There are three moves I think much less pokemon should learn:

>Toxic

It would make much more sense if only poison pokemon (and some rare exceptions) could badly poison the opponent, while normal pokemon could only inflict regular poison.

>Stealth rock

Only very few pokemon learn Rapid Spin, while a shitload learns SR. I think this move should be reserved to the likes of brute rock pokemon such as Golem and Gigalith.

>Scald

Scald was a great idea for a move, but almost any water type learning it? It's a strong water stab with 100% accuracy and three times more chance to burn than most fire attacks. I'm not even complaining about Drizzle Politoed being everywhere to add to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:38:11 No.13071616 Report

Quoted By: >>13071623

>>13071556
I can't tell if this is bait or this guy is seriously, genuinely retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:38:47 No.13071623 Report

Quoted By: >>13071683

>>13071616
Please die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:39:14 No.13071629 Report

Quoted By: >>13071654

>>13071607
You know what bothers me with Scald?

EMBOAR can learn it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:41:26 No.13071654 Report

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>>13071629
And Slowbro can learn Flamethrower

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:41:45 No.13071655 Report

Quoted By: >>13071741

>Entei
>Volcano Pokémon
>Volcanoes have a lot to do with seismic activity
>Good attack stat
>Entei can't learn Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:44:39 No.13071680 Report

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>>13071467
>being able to perform a sneak attack
>not crazier than producing magical rocks out of nowhere

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:45:01 No.13071683 Report

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>>13071623

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:48:28 No.13071741 Report

Quoted By: >>13071846

>>13071655
>Seviper
>poisonous viper
>has nothing at all to do with anything earthquake related, isn't legendary and doesn't weigh that much
>learns Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 01:58:51 No.13071846 Report

Quoted By: >>13071899

>>13071741
>Flareon
>fire type
>good attack stat
>Flareon can't learn Flare Blitz

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:02:45 No.13071886 Report

Quoted By: >>13071916 >>13071973

Someone want to explain this to me?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:04:13 No.13071899 Report

Quoted By: >>13073499

>>13071846

Flareon's HP is too small for it to effectively use flare flitz. It would kill itself very fast, specially with guts + toxic orb.

I think Flareon is pretty good in NU, use flame charge with guts, overheat with offensive flash fire and lava plume in the defensive versions and everything will work out. Let's hope it gets a good physical stab next gen.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:05:48 No.13071916 Report

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>>13071886
Okay

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:10:44 No.13071970 Report

Quoted By: >>13072076 >>13073822

>>13071348
>every Pokemon can learn Earthquake,
>kyurem can't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:11:01 No.13071973 Report

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>>13071886

Althought there's no particular reason why slowpoke family can learn Fire Blast, I don't see any problem with this cases of some few pokemon having gimick moves. It actually makes the game better and more balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:17:11 No.13072028 Report

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>>13071348
Seriously, even the Rhyhorn line and Gyarados have access to Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam. There is no point in them having them and it's not like anyone is going to put them on their Rhyhorn/Gyarados because they have shit SpA. Ok well Gyarados had a decent special stat in gen 1 but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:17:57 No.13072036 Report

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>>13071424
>Thank God you don't work for GF
That's what I constantly say whenever someone on /vp/ thinks they have all the right answers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:22:58 No.13072076 Report

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>>13071970
>implying kyurem is a pokémon
>implying kyurem isn't a digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:37:16 No.13072186 Report

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You know what really pisses me off? How GameFreak gives physical attackers shitloads of good special moves that they'll never use. Gyarados, Aggron, and Absol, for example, have access to all the elemental beams, yet very few dedicated special attackers can make the same claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 02:39:16 No.13072204 Report

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>>13071376
I don't mind it being widely distributed, as I think that actually increases team variation, which in my book is a good thing. The problem is that it's just plain too powerful.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 04:51:53 No.13073261 Report

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>Aggron can learn Aerial Ace and Surf

HURRR COVERAGE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 05:33:40 No.13073464 Report

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Everything in B/W 2 could learn Signal Beam for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 05:42:03 No.13073499 Report

Quoted By: >>13073539

>>13071899
Why wouldn't you put a flame orb on it? Guts boost cancels out burn attack drop anyway.

Flareon just needs a beefed up version of guts that makes it so that getting burned heals it and increases both its attack AND speed by 50%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 05:51:46 No.13073539 Report

Quoted By: >>13073551

>>13073499
Flareon is a Fire-type. It can't get burned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 05:55:09 No.13073551 Report

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>>13073539
Are you sure it can't be burned? I thought it was just that fire moves can't burn it but non-esternal forces could burn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 06:37:16 No.13073792 Report

Quoted By:

>>13071460
that's why STAB exists guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 06:40:44 No.13073822 Report

Quoted By:

>>13071970
>even learns earth power

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 06:43:53 No.13073836 Report

Quoted By:

>>13071515
>mfw Stoutland's Special movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 06:44:59 No.13073838 Report

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Like another said earlier i think the powerful attacks should only be given to the same typing as said moves. Kind of like how Keldeo can only get icy wind for ice coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2013 06:49:45 No.13073866 Report

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why the fuck do all rock moves barring sneaky pebbles have shit accuracy? Are there even any feasible 100% accurate rock attacks? Finally, even fighting and earth have some viable special attacks like focus blast or earth power. Where the fuck is my rock beam?!

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