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Now I know /vp/ really tries hard to accept whatever GF does, just for the sole purpose of not being bitched at by others on /vp/, and having the opportunity to type things such as ''delicious tears'' and ''you faggots can't accept change''. But, this thread is for your true feelings of the Megascoop and how it will affect you moving forward. Whether those feelings be truly positive or negative. As for me, I am stunned to say the least. Pokemon, for me, will change forever in the upcoming gens. It's a whole new game, a whole new mechanic. Lucario is one of my favorite pokemon, and it now has an opportunity to become ''Mega Lucario''. Honestly, I hate the sound of that. Now, I will not be ''quitting'' pokemon, but I also won't be actively participating in gen 6 until things start to unravel themselves. I'll sit back, I'll still check /vp/, I'll still be a pokemon fan, but I as of right now, I am very disappointed that GF implemented this Mega stuff. Also, the anime will change forever. That is the thing that will truly become like Digimon. That saddens me, because Ash's dream of becoming a pokemon master has now changed completely, he will now all of a sudden be using Mega pokemon to get there. How will they throw it into the anime all of a sudden? How will they explain it? How will Ash's blazed up MegaInfernape not destroy the entire pokemon world? I'm definitely interested to see how they will implement this into the anime, if they even do it at all. So, overall, I am saddened by the news of the scoop of the century. Don't get me wrong, pokemon is made for kids and when a kid hears something like ''Mega Pokemon'', he will probably love it and want to buy it. But, for us older fans who have seen the thick and thin of the pokemon franchise, this is a huge change. Let's see how things will play out... So, come /vp/, let us gather and partake in a much-needed venting session.
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>14 years of running celebii.net what a well spent life this must be.
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I like it, quit being so over dramatic.
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>>13327494 As silly as the name sounds, I think the mechanic looks awesome. This series really needs to add some new mechanics sometimes. I know people don't like change, but I think adding new things like this will make the game less predictable and more fun.
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>14 years I became a doctor in 10. He's running a website. I hope he has another job.
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>>13327531 But it's literally the worst thing Gamefreak have ever done and the only reason it hasn't ruined my enjoyment of the games is because I already haven't enjoyed them for years.
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I want to see how it'll turn out. It has potential to be great, and I like the idea so far.
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>>13327545 >worth thing ever done Thats subjective though mate
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>>13327563 same, aside from the "not being permanent" thing. And the naming.
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>>13327537 He was an editor and article maker in Nintendo Magazine before iirc.
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>>13327537 Did you start your medical degree at 12 too?
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>>13327545 OP here, this thread is for your personal opinion of it, not a universal one.
>>13327566 true, he needed to turn that into his own opinion
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>>13327592 It's called after college when you get the white coat.
>>13327584 I hope so, or he's really not making too much money.
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OP here once again. You know, I think it impacts me a little more because I am one of the few who still watches the anime. If I only played the games and couldn't give a shit about the anime, I guess I would like it more, just because it sounds decent as a game feature. But, I'm worried the anime will turn into digimon.
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>worrying about the anime The anime is the biggest pile of shit ever created by man kind. Well not really, but it really is poorly written and thought out, even the battles most of the time are really stale and not consistent. The animation too has been cutting corners ever since the 1 season. If anything, this could atleast make it little bit interesting.
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>>13327601 It doesn't matter how much money anyone makes, as long as you are happy with living to your means
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I'm not against it, even the designs I do not like won't take up any pokedex filler space so it's only an added bonus we're getting. They won't ruin meta as far as rumours go, so I honestly see no bad sides to this. I suppose you're allowed to dislike it. I'm not the biggest fan of the name either. But it shows that they're not new Pokémon only new formes. If this makes the anime interesting again, which I doubt. It's worth it. I still watch the anime though. They don't need to explain shit in the anime. EVER. It's interesting how they're changing Pokémon and adding more depth to it. Also a note to OP, Serebii didn't say he disliked it, just that he was speechless. Same as me, I literally couldn't believe it, I was sure the SCOOP would be Newtwo's 2nd new forme.
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>>13327627 It's a good watch at 2x speed though. All the tropes make it funny though, that's just my opinion.
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>>13327627 Once again, this is subjective.
Stop implying things like this.
Let's say I say the games are the biggest pile of shit ever created and have gone downhill since gen 1.
Does that make it true for everyone?
I happen to enjoy the anime and I couldn't give two fucks about what other people think of it or think of me for watching it.
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>>13327494 Anon-Sempai, I was really looking forward to Gen 6 almost as much as Gen 2 back in the day. Even with the stupid fairy thing (for the record I'm not insecure I just think it's unnecessary like Bug and Dragon). And god dammit the legendaries looked like they were back on track looking majestic and still natural. But fuck me I am so fucking dissappointed right now. This is the last thing I was expecting. I though after 5 gens, GF was immune to this powersink mon trope. I never thought the deviantart tiered fan idea for a 4th evo would become a nightmarish reality but lo and behold. I don't know if I can follow pokemon down this path anymore. It's just trying to hard now and making unsophisticated, short term oriented, lacking discresion decisions with widely spread beloved characters. Pokemon isn't just the competitive scene. It's the characters, the mons that people relate to. I know traditionally Pokemon's demographic is the kind of retarded 9 year old who gobbles this stuff up but someone somewhere needs to come to terms with the fact the the older demographic has stayed and is loyal to the franchise and makes up a large percentage and GF should tread lightly on the integrity of the franchise. I really don't know if I can do this anymore /vp/. I love this franchise too much. I want the best for it. It has so much potential. It's like watching your child make mistakes and still supporting them until the day they rape and kill a 12 year old special needs child. I'm that parent /vp/, and I don't know what to do about our child. Hold me /vp/ I's scared.
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I think it's neat as fuck. I can't wait to see what other Pokemon have Megas. As a matter of fact, I can't understand how somebody COULDN'T like it. There's nothing inherently wrong with it from what I can see.
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>>13327625 >Worrying about the anime after BW The anime can only go up
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>>13327651 >Once again, this is subjective. Every fucking thing is subjective, people can argue how wet water is and still some people can say "well thats my opinion"
If you really want to be even more of an ass about it, you would force everyone to end their sentences with "my opinion"
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>>13327657 I relate, it's hard to accept the fact that we all know GF is aiming towards little kids. But us as older fans see a traditional side to pokemon, and dont want it to become too modernized or change too much.
Honestly, I don't like it but I'm going to have to find some way around it because pokemon means too much to me to quit supporting it.
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>>13327674 Then you shouldn't have gotten on me for worrying about the anime, you idiot.
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I just know we're going to make a big deal out of this, and then it'll hardly have a presence in the actual game.
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>>13327676 Well it's not so much that it's not traditional and it's modern. It's that this particular change is so shallow. There are other ways, I feel to improve, to innovate, to create a buzz that don't compromise the essence. You know? I just keep thinking.....why GF? why?....you didn't have to.....you didn't have to....and now there is no going back.
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I don't like it. I really don't like it. Some of the designs are nice, but the concept makes me hate it. I hope it's something relatively minor in the game and I won't be surprised if this doesn't return in gen 7.
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>>13327657 Honestly, I can see where you and people wi your opinion are coming from but we don't know anything about it and for all we know its not pivotal or even necessary to use. The fact that its available shouldn't be likened to some big mess we have no idea where this is headed so its not time to start panicking or disregarding game freak or the franchise so hastily.
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Gamefreak will do whatever the fuck they want. No, seriously. They're impossible to predict. First it was Wottergate, then it was the great Fairy-type shitstorm of 2013, now it's Megamons. What will Gamefreak think up next?Lucario sucks.
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My true feelings: I'm not stunned, nor disappointed. I feel like a prophet. Years ago, I contemplated the possibility of "4 stage evolutions", which I guess I'm not the only one who has thought about it. I made a thread on /vp/ and we discussed it. It could help regular pokémon reach "legendary status", but it should be heavily restricted. Like only having one per game. This could easily be achieved by introducing a unique item in the game that evoques such evolution. We liked the idea. We imagined Charizard getting its Dragon type, Rapidash getting wings and becoming a Pegasus, but we never imagined legendary pokémon getting one too, which is why Mewtwo is something I didn't expect. I... am happy.
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I hate. I'm not forcing my opinion but I hate it. Hopefully it will never return and hopefully the old Mons will still get proper evos.
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>>13327696 Didnt they say that you cant get the items in-game?
And in the end if they do end up overpowered people will just ban them.
We already have had bullshit naruto/bleach asspull power ups in the series, so i think people are giving this way too much thought.
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>>13327714 >that don't compromise the essence But it didn't?
Wow, they gave new forms to old Pokèmon, WHAT A SHOCK, NOW I CAN'T USE THEM ANYMORE.
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>>13327739 But don't address this as a 4th stage evo since it's not. The word 'evolution' throws us off and I hope they chose another term since it is just a temporary power surge.
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>>13327725 True but when you realistically look at what is most likely to happen....it is time for worry. Then when the most probable happens, we can grieve. Truth is I actually like the way some of them look but the thing is, I know that what they've done was take peoples' favorite final stage mons and devalidate them. I know plenty of my favorites will be as well and not being selfish I can see that this idea, being totally unwarranted, will do more harm that good. I gotta call it like it is, this is a cheap trick, a paradigm shift for the sake of having somehting new and shiney, but is it worth the powersink? Is it worth subjective basterdization of favorites even if you like a particular mega better? Is it worth pokemon become indistiguishable with every other mon franchise?
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>>13327771 The concept is still the same.
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>>13327739 It has been in the back of peoples minds since Gen 1 and people were skeptical of whether or not gf would cave to the whim since gen 2. And I understand some of you like this but honestly I think that is kind of a selfish sentiment. This didn't need to happen.
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>>13327494 >people have a different opinion to me so they must only be doing it to try and be accepted Pokemon has had form changed for three gens already, it didn't ruin the game nor the anime
the anime did a good job of ruining itself without it . Heck it even had in battle form changes in gen 5. I barely even see why this is a big deal, except for more of a non-legendary distrobution than before.
I would understand your complaints if Mega forms were all around better than every other fully evolved pokemon, similar to how digimon levels work where an ultimate and a champion can rarely compete. Also if they were easily available in any situation, so battles would be full of entire teams where each pokemon mega-evolves to compete, but I am almost certain this would not happen, it would be rediculous.
I see it as just another gimmick some pokemon will have, some might get more use with it, some mega forms won't be viable (since it's rumoured to take up the item slot), and some will be shit on by normal fully evolved pokemon.
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>>13327773 >what they've done was take peoples' favorite final stage mons and devalidate them. ITT: my opinions is God's word
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>>13327773 >Is it worth pokemon become indistiguishable with every other mon franchise? So are you saying that pokemon was unique because it didnt have in-game power ups?
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>>13327780 Will they stay the same after battle? No. The concept is usable in a battle only.
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>>13327749 >Hopefully it will never return I hate to break it to you and I've heard people on here say they think it will just be a thing that will go along with Gen 6's story but ask yourself if you really think GF would spend the time creating these and then decide to cut these pokemon creations in later games? Does that match the pattern of how GF handles pokemon creations? GUYS, THIS IS CANON NOW.
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>>13327784 this was a very shallow form of interpreting my post and definitely saw it coming
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>>13327773 I'm afraid I don't see what you're saying. You're inferring that a new forme means immediate devalidation. In what way? Having 3rd stage evos doesn't devalidation 2nd stage evos and these aren't even evolutions. It also isn't inevitable that a power sink will ensue either and although its happened I have to say I ink Pokemon will know where to draw the line. I understands many think the line has been crossed but frankly this doesn't seem like the harmatia that will lead to the franchises demise.
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>>13327792 Which I find better. I was looking for ways to restrict such evolution, since it was unnatural and somewhat secret.
Anything Ithey add to make them less stable as a concept pleases me.
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>>13327800 And your OP post was a very shallow form of interpreting /vp/s opinions
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What's funny is that i didn't have any problem with Oshowott and was actually my favorite starter. Hell i have an oshowott plush right next to me on my shelf. I also actually like the fairy type quite a lot. Finally I think these mega evolution are cool as fuck. In about a weeks time, maybe a bit more people will calm down about this.
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>>13327788 That's not what I'm saying. Let's try to be mature. You have to understand, even if you like Mega Blaziken, even if I like it, it has devalidated someone's favorite somewhere. This is just a fact. I know some of you don't care about these things but these are the kinds of things the developers must consider. These characters don't belong to just you and your opinion or just GF, they belong to the entire fanbase now. You have to imagine the tension of making decisions like these at GF. In this case, I dissagree with what they've done.
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>>13327494 OP, you post it like if he was displeased.
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>>13327815 OP was shallowly responding to a single greentext line of someones response without caring for the actual arguments.
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>>13327819 At the same time, it just made the life of an hardcore Blaziken fan 100 times better.
Doing anything would have changed things for people. Doing nothing would have also changed things.
It's just the way it is, dude. People are NEVER happy.
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>the year of our lord Arceus 2013 >caring about what Serebii thinks
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>>13327806 I hate to invoke the slippery slope argument but that has been suspected with GF for some time. This is kind of like the nail in the coffin. Powersink has taken over pokemon whereas it has narrowly avoided this pitfall in lou of it's opposition and peers. Think about it, first the legendaries 1-upping each other every gen, then the gimmicks and special attributes given to newer pokemon, the competitive abilities and design of later pokemon and lack of updating old mons, and now this. I ask you, what is now stopping pokemon from fussion evolutions, 3 typins, 4 typings, dual type moves, ultra evolutions? Where is the line in your opinion?
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>>13327816 Hey, I remember you.
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>>13327849 Sorry to disappoint you but that's not me.
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>>13327819 >You have to understand, even if you like Mega Blaziken, even if I like it, it has devalidated someone's favorite somewhere. This is just a fact. Blaziken is my fav pokemon and I personally dont like the new design, but its really not that big of a deal as youre trying to make it seem.
Some people will always complain and not like all changes, but thats the price we must pay if we want any change at all.
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I am honestly fine with whatever GameFreak want as a feature. Honestly I really hate the idea but then again I also hate trading to evolve and then they added more and more trade requirements over the years and even combining some of them. I have accepted the fact there will be features that I will hate ever since the Unown dex was a thing. I kinda just deal with it and move on.
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>>13327854 Curses, foiled again.
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>>13327832 >Doing nothing would have also changed things. I dont follow.
>it just made the life of an hardcore Blaziken fan 100 times better Not necessarily. You are assuming every blaziken fan likes the mega evolution.
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>>13327848 >fussion evolutions, 3 typins, 4 typings, dual type moves All of those would actually be what people have wanted since gen1 and some of those would make the meta game more interesting.
I can understand if people would get bored when we get 8 stage evolutions but thats not gonna happen anytime soon.
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>>13327870 >I dont follow. If a Pokèmon gets an evo in a following gen, some fans are happy, some have complaints.
If a Pokèmon doesn't get an evo in a following gen, some fans are happy, some have complaints.
At the end of the day, whatever you do, people are going to complain or be happy about things.
>Not necessarily. You are assuming every blaziken fan likes the mega evolution. You're assuming that every Blaziken/Pokè that received Mega- fan doesn't like the mega evolution.
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>>13327856 >price we must pay if we want any change at all. I do definitely agree with you but can we at least agree that there are differences in weight between the kind of change that sees new pokemon types, new mechanics, horde battles and the like and the kind of change that sees changing important characters? I just think some changes don't make sense in a risk vs reward sense.
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>>13327773 >I know that what they've done was take peoples' favorite final stage mons and devalidate them Invalidate. The word you are looking for is invalidate.
>Is it worth subjective basterdization of favorites even if you like a particular mega better? And 'bastardization', while we're at it.
God, if you're going to rant, at least do it with correct spelling.
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>>13327898 >If a Pokèmon gets an evo in a following gen, some fans are happy, some have complaints. If a Pokèmon doesn't get an evo in a following gen, some fans are happy, some have complaints.
At the end of the day, whatever you do, people are going to complain or be happy about things.
I agree but that isn't really a change.
>You're assuming that every Blaziken/Pokè that received Mega- fan doesn't like the mega evolution. I'm not and that's the point. People were fine with old blaziken. Some will see this as an improvement while others won't like it. If they had just left it alone, everyone would have still been fine with it.
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At first, this morning when I thought it was this gen's gimmick evolution method I supported it. seemed a bit weird that blaziken and ampharos to get an evo but I thought they were split evos, alternate stage 3's they could switch between. I could see the reasoning behind wanting to give level 100 pokemon and legendaries a way to evolve. Now that I know it's temporary I think the whole thing is garbage. I'm really disappointed that mawile and absol won't be getting an evolution because Gamefreak will instead be pushing these lame temporary formes as their evolution in stead. These are pokemon that need a real evolution badly. Instead they are getting a gimped pseudo evo at the cost of their item slot. I never liked formes, I always hated that pokemon could be knocked out of a forme by a slight breeze and I hated how you could never really train for them. It seems Gamefreak decided they wanted to push formes in a new way and tried to fix their diaphanous nature by sacrificing the pokemon's item slot. It just means that these pokemon are now gimped by the lack of that slot. I honestly now think the whole mega pokemon thing is kind of a lame gimmick and its just pushing more forme shit on me that I already didn't like before. I wish they had just stuck to evolutions. I think the actual design of them is pretty cool. I was angry at first, now I'm just disappointed. It's just such wasted potential.
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>>13327900 >I just think some changes don't make sense in a risk vs reward sense. I would agree if this change was in a scale of turning the serie into a Call of Duty fps clone.
As it stands, this just a new gimmick for making your mons stronger/different, wich is one of the main focuses of the entire serie.