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Anonymous
>>13385454 I thought you were talking about earth power
Anonymous
Anonymous
I'm leaving my Terrorcotta set as "Final" and going for a walk. we're done with him for now, unless someone comes up with another change that is well received. Sorry if that sounds really conceited. Its just the other suggestions have been met with extreme negativity, so they're not a good idea to include. We can survey things if needed, but not right now.
Anonymous
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>>13385307 >>13385317 >>13385340 >>13385408 Pigeon Killer is shitting up a bad fakemon thread
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
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>>13385464 >tfw patiently waiting and hoping Snomes and Koblins line gets confirmed If only...
>>13385498 O-Oh...okay.
Anonymous
so here i've replaced shell smash with cotton spore. although i am very very willing to take other suggestions for that move slot. does anybody have any other critiques of this set? it has needle arm and ingrain which are two things people wanted.
Anonymous
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>>13385505 >Sorry if that sounds really conceited apology accepted.
Anonymous
>>13385523 >cotton spore Extreme makeover pls go.
Anonymous
>>13385523 >Cotton Spore BUT
WERE
IS
THE
COTTON
It's seriously a cactus in a pot, I fail to see where anything remotely fluffy is coming out.
You goofed, we gave you a chance to redeem yourself, and you goofed harder.
Anonymous
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>>13385523 it could use
Tremor Anonymous
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>>13385549 but that isn't me
Anonymous
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>>13385552 >cacturne and maractus learn cotton spore by level up Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
Anonymous
>>13385552 lots of cacti are covered in both large spines and a secondary layer of very soft fur like spines which keep out bugs and stuff.
it varies by species
Anonymous
>>13385590 m-muh GF precedent!
Whatever, though.
Anonymous
>>13385549 >>13385552 this is why faggots like you shouldn't dabble in movesets
you have no idea what you are talking about
Anonymous
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>>13385663 Yep, and that's why I don't.
Anonymous
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>>13385655 you are welcome to suggest anything else if you think the gf precedent is dumb
after learning needle arm, wring out, and eq it would seem appropriate for them to learn a non-attack move though.
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>>13385655 >whatever, though But you understand, right?
Anonymous
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>>13385687 Yes, I do.
Sorry for stirring shit, carry on
Anonymous
I'll post this and be ignored once more. This link contains ideas for every poke currently missing a dex entry. Feedback is appreciated
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=365 Anonymous
>>13385523 I cant say I hate Cotton Spore, though
>>13385552 was my initial reaction until you proved it wrong. (That wasn't me, just how I felt) but I still think it doesn't really belong and we should keep Grass knot.
Changing mind mid-post. Pansage is literally the only thing to get it via level up. Get rid of GK for Cotton spore.
Anonymous
>>13385523 made some much needed edits
Anonymous
>>13385795 Did you see my entry on Crawglock? I forgot to save it so I fucking hope you saw it
Anonymous
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Is Tileanon here? I could use some help.
Ratatosk
I'm quite tired, but I would like to do at least something before going again. When I went through the threads earlier today I saw someone posting a better perspective for the Fortifry backsprite, but I stupidly forgot to save it. Might that particular anon repost it? It takes awfully long to look on the archive [aka I haven't found the right tactic yet]. Also nice work on the breeders last thread, though it seems to me that the head of the female breeder is too small in comparison to the head of the male. Makes it look slightly like a shrunk sprite.
Anonymous
>>13385813 replace constrict with vine choke and growth with cactus bloom
>>13385812 cotton spore would be pretty useful on a slow mon. i personally can't think of anything better either.
Anonymous
PROTAGONIST BAG SURVEY
Yes I know we did this before, I voted fore it. If pockets is the majority vote than it will win (and say something other than slippery slope). Whether support it or not just vote if you want your opinion to be counted.
http://www.survey monkey.com /s/53BV9BK Anonymous
Skele
>>13385858 Thanks Rata, the male still needs some work due to the body being Surge's but, I know what you mean. Net to the male the female Breeder is teeny tiny.
Anonymous
>>13385818 Oh but i have some old versions.
>>13385795 The wording on these is a bit awkward but its hard to write short enough dex entries
Anonymous
>>13385864 but seriously sand tomb is shit
at least give him QS
Anonymous
>>13385916 >not 1 billion degrees K >not spinning faster than black hole Anonymous
>>13385874 fuck you and your useless survey
Anonymous
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>>13385923 >give him QS QS isn't a thing. stop suggesting made up moves.
Anonymous
>>13385950 >black holes spinning fast what
Ratatosk
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>>13385910 The size is fine, just the proportions need adapting a bit.
Also nice too see so much discussion. And the final felt Erycoon looks brilliant.
Anonymous
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>>13385950 >degrees K Confirmed for knowing shit about science
Terra is an astronomy nerd. captcha: but rsearshe Anonymous
>>13385523 >no pin missile or spike cannon >a cactus not stockpiling to reference how they store water >not cotton guard over cotton spore Anonymous
>>13385953 Vote in it anyways
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13386005 no because no one will care about those results anyway
Anonymous
>>13385450 more work, getting much closer. fixed a bunch of proportions.
Anonymous
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>>13385995 i was tempted to add pin missile but couldn't figure out where to put it. spike cannon is a little less widely distributed.
perhaps either bind or constrict could be replaced with pin missile? they are sort of redundant to an extent.
Anonymous
>>13386040 the mask doesn't look like it's on the head.
also as always i don't support having a second elite4/gymleader/whatever with a mask considering we already have the grass ghost shaman.
Anonymous
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>>13385995 good
and give him skill link
and then give him quake storm Anonymous
>>13385635 >>13385635 >>13385812 It already has scary face at an earlier level which does the same thing but has more accuracy. Having both is a terrible idea.
Anonymous
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>>13386027 Well vote in it anyways
Anonymous
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>>13385874 stop trying to resurvey and gtfo, bagfag
Anonymous
>>13386102 you're so right, congrats on being the first person to notice. the accuracy is the same though...at least it is in gen v.
>cotton spore has four times as much pp though. i like the idea of it getting stockpile.
Anonymous
VOTE IT ONLY HAS 19 VOTES EVEN IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT OR WONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY JUST VOTE IN IT
http://www.survey monkey.com /s/53BV9BK Anonymous
>>13386232 >spoiling it and changing lines >still trying to push for your bag shit Anonymous
>>13386208 >stockpile without spit up or swallow don't bother
Anonymous
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>>13386232 >it has only 19 votes you should ask yourself some questions dickhead
Anonymous
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>>13386208 Level up levels should not be the same between evolutions
Anonymous
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>>13386265 If you don't like bags than vote for pockets.
Anonymous
so considering people have been fixing pottles moves and it learns mudsport by level up lets also talk about changing mudsport and watersport they have always been some of the worst moves. the best way to make them better would be to increase the types they effect. currently mudsport effects electric and watersport effects fire.>suggestions mudsport weakens electric, fire, and poison watersport weakens fire, ground, and rock they aren't going to be great moves still but it makes them slightly useful.
Anonymous
>>13386274 it could learn spit up and swallow at the same level, lots of pokemon do this. or do you think it should just learn one of them? it has a big enough mouth that the whole set makes sense.
Anonymous
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>>13386344 i think just swallow would be good
Kirn !grolemYmgg
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>>13386232 people do not vote on this survey
it has been surveyed before and no matter what happens in this survey it wont matter
these things are final and are treated as such
those 19 votes will not affect anything
Anonymous
>>13385818 yeah I remember you. I liked yours much better for the crawglock and prevo. Tiny eats mineral deposits, larger one protects them. Just FYI though, 7000F is about 2.5x hotter than magma, so if crawglock shot water at that temp, it would immediately evaporate. additionally, that's nearly hot enough to ignite air, so maybe dial it back some.
Anonymous
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>>13386306 Make it last 5-10 turns instead of until the user switches out, or make it work only for the team that used it. Adding more types that it protects from won't make a difference.
Anonymous
>>13386374 >doesnt know about pistol shrimp HAHAHA
look some stuff up bro
they are the real pokemon of this world
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Anonymous
>>13386091 it is a sideplot/npc. could even be a generic. i am a shaman supporter as well,
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13386374 haha you must not know about pistol shrimps.
Their real bubble shots reach up to 5000F.
If anything it needs to be more exaggerated to get to pokemon levels.
Anonymous
>>13386418 Have you started on any of these?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386455 been at work all day, bruv.
But i think ill start roughneck right now.
I'm in a pompadour mood.
Anonymous
>>13386406 >just watched 2 minute video on pistol shrimp >shits hotter than magma, immediate evaporation shoots that motherfucker over 100km/h in less than .5 seconds >cool enough to touch with bare hand >what the fucking fuck nevermind. continue on good anon.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386471 yep. Pokemon style exaggerations in real life. Those fuckers are awesome
Anonymous
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>>13386471 right fucking awesome
to be fair how it actually works, is they just live so deep that the heat is caused by all the water in the ocean crashing down to fill that little bubble Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13386469 Oh! Work on the male breeder too. Skele did good for a start, but its mostly surge.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Nimble !bdB08On366
Musicfriends who've messed with EW, how do you like it? figured out how to work it? any problems with it? you can ask me any questions about it and i'll try to answer to the best of my ability. Current Work: Andean Mountain Route Theme /r/ list: Industrial Area(Minor Tweaks) Desert Underpass Theme Clash told me but i forgot Farm(MusicGuy currently taking care of that) BigCity3(thought up a nice bossa motif, will attempt to flesh it out)lolvictoryroad lolcredits Anyone want to request a theme? it can be ANYTHING, as long as it's related to the project even if it never gets into the final product ;-; I only ask for requests because I want what you want guys want music-wise in the game.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386531 hot damn, that's like 90% surge.
>>13386540 I have no idea how to use EW Anonymous
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>>13386531 >that female breeder Shes so perfect, so cute so
me~ Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13386540 dive dive dive! nah, though, im just excited
>>13386549 yeah, but I mean, did you see the concept art for it?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386572 >did you see the concept art for it? probably at one point, but definitely forgot.
Anonymous
does this bother anybody? i will change anything you want. (except for adding made up moves)
>>13386442 she could be related to the shaman then?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
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>>13386506 Edited on the post. I've decided to to some more research on the pokes that have name origins.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13386611 well shit.
Then i hope you guys dont mind me taking some mild changes then.
Ratatosk
Took way too long to find that..
Ignoring obvious rushing errors, I reckon the direction it's facing is better on the left one?
Also any thoughts on an overall better positioning? I think it's necessary for the tail to be visible, since my attempts without it made it look far too insect-like.
Though that may have been just me. >>13386455 The roughneck that I've posted a few time didn't get any recognition, so I guess it didn't hit the spot? Is the idea for them to be reminiscent of the Hyekuza-line? [I'd like that.]
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>>13386611 Maybe it would help if he didn't have such a similar pose.
Ratatosk
>>13386611 >>13386689 Arms resting on his hips would look great.
Anonymous
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386679 I think yours is ok. The one i'm working on has the same pose as hyekuza.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13386679 also the left one is great
Anonymous
>>13386679 hey the thread got deleted but you got it. i keep doing rough backsprite things, because they suck so much, glad to see you fixed those fins. head shape is still a tad off, should we give it gills?
Anonymous
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>>13386605 I would vote for this.
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>>13386699 Either that or a pose of him working like the others.
Anonymous
>>13386689 I think we all know where to look for inspiration for poses.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386749 just noticed our one's head is a bit too small
Anonymous
>>13386763 Can this be the pose... Please..Can it?
Anonymous
>>13386785 Lel, it was a joke man.
Tfw no Part 3 anime Anonymous
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13386749 >>13386749 wow, apart from the colors, I think my breeder is one of my best matching designs.
Also, the pokemart/center tileset is almost done, I'll draw the picniker now and then work on the interior general after.
>>13386785 I'd buy it.
Ratatosk
>>13386733 Yeah, I had to skim through all threads, since not all of them have the same title. But I'm glad the Archive exists. [It also made me find out that someone tends to use the same name as me outside of this thread.]
I don't think it needs gills, that level of realism isn't necessary for Pokémon. I could alter the shading a bit to hint at them, if you'd like.
Do you think the angle of the head should be steeper? And what of the brown crown-y decoration? I reckon they stick out, but that's basically impossible to do from that angle. Does it look right as it is?
>>13386720 That would look brilliant, go for it.
>>13386749 I like the idea of him not working, but I guess he could wipe some sweat off his brow? Also, as mentioned before, the female breeders proportions need a little tweaking.
Chen !!nlrLrc/pgY6
>>13386767 Just another thing I can count on you to fix~
Nimble !bdB08On366
>>13386549 you want me to teach you through IRC or something?
this general needs an IRC Anonymous
>>13386805 For a joke, it's a great pose..
Anonymous
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>>13385795 Patama:
The guardian spirit of nature, she will protect humans that travel in her domain, as long as they respect the forest.
Machima:
A legendary ghost that wanders the desert. She is said to only appear to those who follow the winds deep into the desert.
Yacuma:
One of the legendary ghost sisters, she is feared for her reputation of drowning swimmers and sailors that encroach her territory. However, some believe the stories are mere legends.
Captcha: spirit dusraem
The ghost sisters needed better dex entries. Not that these are it
Anonymous
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>>13386890 Doesn't work for a Breeder, maybe someone else. JJBA prides itself on poses.
Anonymous
>>13386837 ruffles don't bother me, issue is it's lost alot of the triangle like head shape. maybe gap between feeler fins is too much and head should have more of a pronounced ridge.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13386851 oh babby >>13386868 That would be nice, yeah.
But isn't IRC a primitive chat program for hackers?
Anonymous
Ratatosk
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>>13386917 Thanks, I'll try around.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13386936 ooh mibbit.
I'm guessing that thing gets even less use than the forums.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Am I missing anything here?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Anonymous
>>13386978 sns some of those are going to actual run-offs, resurveying pushes them farther from a confirmation survey
Anonymous
>>13386605 niether cacnea or maractus learn stockpile/swallow/spit up
just give it cotton spore/cotton guard again
at least they can actually make use of those
Ratatosk
>>13386917 Better? Looks a little exaggerated now, especially with the ruffles being at the angle that they are, but I doubt I can do much more with just editing.
I also thought about adding the shine its helmet has, but likely making that visible won't look too natural. The same goes for making the right fin thinner to make it look like it's angled towards the screen.
RileyVace
So, what did people think of my Jaguile back sprite? Someone said they were going to tweak it but I had to go to bed.
Ratatosk
>>13387160 Ah, I remember seeing and liking it, but I don't have it saved.
You are gladly invited to modify Pounther, though.
Anonymous
>>13387132 yes it's a bit better. how's my touch ups on rifty
RileyVace
>>13387191 I was going to edit a few monsters that have some funky curves and set them forward for suggestion, see if people saw what I meant. I'll give them a go in a moment (eating my dinner right now - had a long day)
Anonymous
>>13387191 yes please do so. i started it, and the same issues still exists, face and ears.
Anonymous
>>13386978 i feel like there were more snogres...
but assuming youve gone through the dropbox it looks complete
Anonymous
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>>13387257 lot's of snogres died in the survey, like 2 weeks ago that we were waiting for the run-off on.
RileyVace
>>13387218 If you don't mind me saying, the front sprite's 'head' is perfectly round but the back sprite's not so much.
Was this intentional? I think it'd look better more spherical.
Anonymous
>>13386978 All of those koberus variations of the bottom left design of the top for are for a single voting choice, right?
Anonymous
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>>13386978 imagine if snome and snogre got culled after being made the first gym leader's sig poke. Would be too funny. Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13387347 Yup. There will be separate questions to narrow the small details down.
>>13387257 The "WoW" Snogres knocked all of the others out by a landslide.
>>13387056 This is how the surveys have always been run.
Ratatosk
>>13387223 >>13387237 Got the latest ones here, awaiting your magic.
Which ones were you thinking about editing?
>>13387218 A bit? What's [glaringly] missing? Is it wikiable or not?
And I think the darkest shade could be rounder on the bottom, going more in an S-shape than a 3-shape [if you know what I mean]. I'd also make the brightest shade more rounded, like the shine on an orb would be. Look at the Squink backsprite for reference, and maybe either adapt the lighting source to that or reedit the Squink backsprite.
Anonymous
>>13387391 >WOW snogre You mean the
best snogre
Anonymous
Just a question: Why do people confuse me with the bird hating guy? He's Pigeon Killer, i am Honch. Or are you guys calling him Honch to piss him off?
Anonymous
>>13387433 All I know is that you cause shitstorms.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13387433 Is it really necessary to derail a thread that is going so well?
And it was PK that was confused with you, not the other way. End of story.
Anonymous
>>13387466 Nah, i don't cause shitstorms, they guy hating on me causes shitstorms.
Anonymous
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>>13387466 >>13387483 >>13387491 You know you could like....not respond.
Anonymous
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13387432 I don't really have an opinion on it, thats just a common nickname
RileyVace
>>13387397 Thanks I'll get to work on it now!!
I was noticing just a few miss used colours that kind of just blend into nothing on certain monster smaking their form look a bit off - there's a few with bad curves (a spriting problem is often jaggies that occur from people not grading pixels along lines, breaking curves) and some aliasing errors.
Pic related.
This may be a bad sprite for an example as it's a rock type and may not NEED to be too curved.
But I've noticed it in a few sprites.
Anonymous
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>>13387327 i'm having issues getting it back to sphere. fix it if you can figure it out.
>>13387397 i could re-curve it. i tried to define the head shape a little.
Anonymous
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>>13383652 Battle won lines come a while after spotted lines, so they should make sense even if you don't totally remember thr initial line. Like, 2 can say "We can share this space" but shouldn't say "it" because you may not remember what "it" is.
Anonymous
>>13387218 >>13387327 Here's my attempt at gussying it up.
RileyVace
>>13387602 That looks a lot better to my eyes. Dunno if anyone agrees though?
Maybe the shading could use some rounding too?
Also here's my final Jaguile backsprite.
I removed some lines and fixed the outline to be smoother with the shading.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Anonymous
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>>13386531 Man, I'd breed with either of them.
Anonymous
>>13387635 god your so good at this, but... look...
it makes me really sad because that is my favorite sprite to so far
i think it needs to be sized up and lower
Anonymous
>>13386611 >to make sue thy oo well!" what?
Anonymous
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Ratatosk
>>13387602 The dark shade looks much better like that, but the bright one still lacks something. Let me have a shot at it.
>>13387583 I see what you mean, and I'm sure you'll stumble over many of mine. Just don't forget that some of the decisions may be intentional.
Also, since these edits are so minor, try to reduce yourself to the backsprites that don't need much editing otherwise. Otherwise we'll have too much spot the difference on the wikia.
>>13387635 Looks great. You may want to use the darkest colour on the left side of its body a bit, because it looks too bright if just the back leg has it. I really like the pose, though.
>>13387656 Something about the thumb and the front foot looks off. But I love it.
Anonymous
>>13387742 Now do the Ruin Maniac Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
Jesus, I just realized how dark it is. Here's one with proper colors.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13387742 oh yeah, forgot to say.
Move limit survey is at 80 votes and it's been a week. Closing it in a few hours, so get your vote in.
>>13387746 Tried some things but i think i made it worse
>>13387747 never Ratatosk
>>13387602 >>13387775 You were faster, but here's the lighting I would use.
>>13387783 Also tried something with the eyes, since I think Hyekuza has a dismissive rather than an angry/grim look. Not sure how it works.
I also forgot thumb and foot. The prior looks much better, the foot looks too squashed.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13387783 Pllleeeaaassseeee. if not, than the breeder.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Anonymous
Is there a reason Phantern's prevo is the only one that still lacks a name?
Anonymous
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>>13387883 Its Whispern/Whispurn/other spellings. We just haven't voted on a spelling yet.
And the Elephants don't have names either.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>13387883 There's 4 different spellings.
Anonymous
>>13387845 >1) For A, which eyes? >Left >Right Whose left and right, mine or the kobold's?
Anonymous
>>13387845 So, how will it work for the redesigns of the spikey fur koberus?
Anonymous
>>13387891 That seems like it would be pretty easy to survey and get the names totally done with.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13387825 Really? I think Hyekuza looks slightly angered.
Could always go to a vote.
Speaking of that...
>>13387845 Could you do multi-sprite surveys for trainers too?
Anonymous
>>13387602 >>13387775 >>13387825 wow you are all so fast. fixed this as per comments
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13387894 Yours. Sorry for the confusion.
>>13387897 How will what work exactly?
RileyVace
>>13387714 Hmmm. you could be right there.
I can probably make things a tad larger.
I would just need a while to do it haha
Here's my edit of that Squid thing, too. I don't know the name...
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13387903 I could, but it wouldn't be until the end of the week at the earliest.
Anonymous
>>13387917 I thought we were voting on the mouth, not the eyes?
Nugget
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>>13387635 holy shit. sprite everything. sprite jawgodon. sprite everything
Anonymous
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>>13387921 you know the wiki and the op has all the names
his name is squidrift~ Anonymous
>>13387934 The mouths are identical bro. The only difference is the eyes.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13387934 I changed it to "which expression", but like
>>13387954 said, the mouths are not very different at all.
Ratatosk
>>13387908 I prefer the outline of the darkest hue like this, but it does make sense for the roundness of the head to be accentuated earlier.
>>13387921 I see where you are going for, but the curve seems a little too round now. Nothing wrong with a little bit of edge since the angle there isn't round.
Also
Squidrift. >>13387903 Well, the question is if it works or not.
But I'd be curious how other people judge the expression. I'm probably just misinterpreting the eyebrow.
And how many multiple trainer sprites do we have?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Anonymous
>>13387917 >How will what work exactly? You didn't have it ask which of the redesigns of the spikey fur ones is the best
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13387991 The question asks "spiky or non-spiky?" How is that confusing?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13387977 >And how many multiple trainer sprites do we have? cold youngster has 2, Hiker has 3, both bug maniacs have 2, fembackpacker has 2, the contortonist and fem treasure hunter also have 2.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
Anonymous
>>13388003 can we have a follow up survey for Alpha and Beta?
who gets alpha, cubzero or pounther, who gets beta, ocurumi or pounther
Anonymous
>>13388003 anyone who doesnt vote for ...urn doesnt reaize that it also adds "urn" to the name which is used for storing AHSES (fire type) of DEAD (ghost type) people
Anonymous
>>13388003 So, for the record, is the name's origins up for debate or is it set in stone?
Assuming its Wisp + Lantern, only one choice makes any since.
I don't see how Whispers would be relevant to a festival lantern, and its not a jar so urn is out of the question as well.
Anonymous
>>13387997 The outline of the hair is spiky in all of them.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Done putting these together. we might want new walls and floors, but otherwise, i think we're good.
Anonymous
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>>13388003 Prepare for an almost even split among the four.
Anonymous
>>13387997 You didn't ask about mane or no mane, or the height of the fur
Anonymous
>>13388026 but the ghost lanterns are lanterns, not urns
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13388037 oh yeah, I'll draw the female picniker now, then I'll put together the interior general tileset and start popping out houses.
Ratatosk
>>13387998 My, I should pay more attention to the trainer sprites. Definitely warrants a survey.
Also foot edit. Any improvement? Or is the foot too big now?
Anonymous
>>13388033 >its not a jar so urn is out of the question Unless the pokemon is a container with a burned up dead person inside, which would be pretty appropriate for ghost/fire.
Anonymous
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>>13388051 But they have burning souls in them.
Anonymous
>>13387977 what do you mean by your criticism on
>>13387908 also i attacked a backsprite i found way too horse like. they buy the orang up on wiki. the whole zen-monkey line needs work by someone.
Anonymous
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>>13388033 wisp + whisper + lantern + urn
whispers is a ghost like quality, that fits well even if its not directly its origin
and ashes of dead people is very tied to ghost and fire
though you should also vote for what reads best, and pokemon likes to change the spelling of the words they combine
>>13388051 using urn in the name wouldnt make them any less lantern, its just a fun spelling that relates to the type
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
Anonymous
>>13388070 But its a lamp. Based on chinese lanterns. Well, we've officially gotten to the point where a survey is justified.
So where is the stat survey? I'll do it myself if I need to. Anonymous
>>13388026 >muh even more references >muh lanturn nahhh
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13388034 >>13388050 Oh ok, I understand what you mean, my bad. Should I add 2 questions to the survey? I'm not sure if people could go back and vote for those now.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13388069 i think it might be too big.
People in pokemon have tiny feet
Anonymous
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>>13388096 The lamp is also a container.
Anonymous
Finished craliber Any suggestions for any more?
Anonymous
>>13388112 Take a picture of them all together.
Anonymous
>>13388102 Just redo the survey, and ask out of 6, 7, and 8, which is liked best
Anonymous
>>13388112 Basilect would be cool if you could, but I'm not sure how difficult that would be.
Anonymous
>>13388098 not really a refrence
just makes the name have more to it
spelling it with a u also makes the name a corrupted spelling just like gf often does
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13388104 We could say he's wearing boots...
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13388127 Alright, alright.
Anonymous
>>13388112 does grolem have to many sharp angles to do?
because hes my favorite
very great job btw, its adorable
Anonymous
>>13388112 holycrap that's cool.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>13388112 Parapy, I wouldn't want to burden you with Mawasite.
Ratatosk
>>13388081 The Musbushel edit was very needed, thanks.
And all I meant is that while I prefer the S-shape for shading, it does make sense and look quite decent having the roundness showing so strongly through the rounder curve. Like in
>>13387775 >>13388104 Oh god, they do. I REALLY should pay more attention to trainer sprites. I'll try one more time, otherwise your first attempt may be perfect and just too small to my unaccustomed eye.
>>13388112 Wow, that was really quick this time!
Personally I'd love to see Leukoon or Maskoon [never noticed how similar the names were], and I think they would be possible. But do any you like.
Anonymous
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>>13388152 The shading under the tail is too harsh, and the dithering looks bad.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13388147 even with boots, they have tiny feet.
The only people without tiny feet are the really big motherfuckers like Hikers or Crasher Wake
Anonymous
>>13388135 you just rephrased everything I greentexted
youre giving the name more references
youre making it similar to lanturn
come on man
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13388104 also lucian looks like he's straight out of FE:Awakening
Anonymous
>>13388166 >>13388104 >implying this really matters >implying that's a stylistic choice by GF >implying we should follow it even if it was RileyVace
Pounther's Frotn Sprite I think looks nicer now I've edited to paws, made the lighting source all sensible and adjusted it's neck area a little. Thoughts? I'm not saying anything previous was bad or demanding these be the final thing, just proposing what looks good to me!
Anonymous
>>13388069 His legs are too short.
Anonymous
>>13388168 you know lantern is spelled with an e right?
u would make it more different
i feel like im missing something here Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13388187 >implying this really matters it does
>implying that's a stylistic choice by GF it is
>implying we should follow it even if it was we should
>>13388196 nice catch
Anonymous
>>13388104 I think it's fine.
>>13388166 >>13388147 It's not about what they're wearing so much as what should be aesthetically emphasized to convey the character well. Note how the only sprite posted just now wirh bigger geed is in flip flops. This is a punk, a fairly rough guy. He doesn't need the sleek lines of an ace trainer or anything like that.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Sorry about this everybody, but you're gonna have to vote again because I'm a retard.
Snome and Koblin survey:
https://www.surveym onkey.com/s/DTT2GSN Anonymous
>>13388191 still issues with front left shoulder/leg position
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
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>>13388204 I agree in general but that left foot is just too much.
>>13388196 You over did it a bit here though.
Anonymous
>>13388198 am I being softly trolled
Ratatosk
>>13388196 I tried again.
But those feet look good to me, ignoring the fact that I'd love to make them just a little bit bigger..
Oh, gameFreak. Anonymous
>>13388206 >didn't change "left or right" to something less confusing If you were fixing one problem you might as well have fixed all of them.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13388200 Give me one legimate, functional reason why we should have super small feet like that, besides just because it's like that in the official games.
Nearly nobody would notice if it wasn't pointed out to them.
Anonymous
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>>13388236 Why would it be Koblin's right? Nigga are you retarded? You're obviously the only one to have gotten confused by it.
Anonymous
>>13388217 >>13388219 OH!
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT FUCKER
god its name is stupid, acording to bulba its based on "turn-ing on a light" fucking stupid
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13388204 looking through official sprites, it seems to vart, leaning towards smaller feet.
The hoopster, Drayden and surprisingly N and Hilbert have bigger feet than the rest.
I was surprised to see Gen 5's hiker have tiny feet.
>>13388248 >Give me one legimate, functional reason why we should have super small feet like that, besides just because it's like that in the official games. That's all the reason i need. We're mimicking their art style, so we mimick their little nuances.
If we were making a DBZ fangame we'd give everyone the same face.
Ratatosk
>>13388191 Just for future reference, it would be really helpful if you added the unedited sprite together with the edited one.
The frontmost paw looks better now, the others still seem slightly off. And the head seems too far back now, as though it was trying to straighten up in order to be as intimidating as possible. It might just be me not knowing about the anatomy of felines, though.
>I'm not saying anything previous was bad or demanding these be the final thing, just proposing what looks good to me! Don't worry, this is the nature of editing. People won't misinterpret you unless you are cocky about your edits or don't respond to feedback.
Anonymous
>>13388262 >god its name is stupid thanks for advocating it then ya baka
Anonymous
>>13388271 >If we were making a DBZ fangame we'd give everyone the same face. That's different. That's something people expect of dbz's art style.
Anonymous
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>>13388271 >I was surprised to see Gen 5's hiker have tiny feet. I actually thought that while I was playing.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions. Plus, N is
N- torious for clown shoes
Anonymous
>>13388237 wait, somethings up. didnt we vote for two pokemon to get alpha beta total? meaning 1 for alpha one for beta. or did i read it wrong or something?
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Are you a spriter? Are you not doing anything right now? Well try working on one of the sprites in pic related that AREN'T on the wiki.
Anonymous
>>13388289 its stupid because its just lantern spelled wrong
turn on the light is bullshit
it only has one word its playing off of
wisp+whisper+lantern+urn is 4
Anonymous
>>13388231 getting real good
Anonymous
>>13388339 is this good enough to go on the wiki?
Anonymous
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>>13388341 Im lookin fo her too anon.
Anonymous
Pic is of all the wool colours I have
>>13388119 I've only done two so far though?
>>13388146 Sure! It's one of my favourite designs, actually
>>13388149 Thank you! Sharp edges are fine but they are more difficult to do
>>13388151 Thanks
>>13388163 I don't have the blue for leukoon but I could do maskoon
>>13388134 Bit too difficult, I think
>>13388243 Sure
Anonymous
>>13388339 >turkistador's sprite Oh god thats retrodex tier. That face anyway. Pic pretty related
RileyVace
>>13388288 I had the same thought just before I read this.
Added the previous now.
I've tried editing the front, left shoulder as suggested by
>>13388216 Anonymous
>>13388243 It has been done
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>13388338 I interpreted it as 2 for alpha and 2 for beta, I'm a bit confused myself.
Anonymous
>>13388365 Are those panties? Also, good luck beating top-tier dinky here
>>13388387 Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13388370 >the face anyway Wait a secon- FUCK. Thats an old design.
Guess what else we need a sprite for?
>>13388355 Looks good to me.
Anonymous
oops wrong version is THIS good enough to go on the wiki
Anonymous
Question about Xochi: Aren't those legendary names supposed to be aztec/nahuatl inspired? So the X would make the "ch" sound? Why are the spanish and the english spellings mixed?
Anonymous
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>>13388428 big version for your viewing pleasure
Anonymous
Ratatosk
>>13388339 >Cardinite I'd appreciate if somebody could smoothen Maskoon a little.
Also, Dog, whenever you're around please repost your Rocano. It would help immensly.
>>13388351 Is that a Dragonball style trainer or one we actually have?
>>13388385 Thanks. Its front right paw looks much better now, too. Perhaps the leg gets too thin towards the top, but the positioning is definitely an improvement.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13388458 >Cardinite God dammit I keep forgetting to remove that.
Anonymous
>>13388435 >implying there's more than one person here who knows anything about nahuatl RileyVace
>>13388152 I love what you did with the top of the tail.
>>13388458 Alrighty, I've made the leg less narrow at the top.
Anonymous
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>>13388482 Its the Ch-sound yes. Though Ive heard flip nurses pronounce it as Sh. So it's Chotec and Chochi pronounciation wise
Anonymous
Ratatosk
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>>13388458 Forgot Maskoon. >>13388428 There is a design with different hands around to fit the prevo better. It probably still needs a survey, but it won't hurt having this on the wikia.
Anonymous
>>13388515 In their picture
Local Moose Friend !isnn/AUU0c
>>13386531 Isn't that just an edit of Surge? I can't say I used reference when drawing Hal (lol that face).
I think to tie into a breeder you could give him a little waist apron. I thought about that when posting the image the other day.
Anonymous
>>13388417 orbatom has been added, you can take it off that sheet
and there is a jaguile backsprite, it just needs to be sized up, so you should put an * by it
Anonymous
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>>13388482 That's pretty basic though, it's just pronunciation.
Anonymous
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>>13388526 I know, I meant where in the picture
Anonymous
>>13388458 lol no rat, it was my steel gym concept. some people liked the idea, since it is a existing pokemon gym leader. my idea was he wore a bucket/helmet to train better with his poke
Anonymous
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>>13388435 Yeah, we're pretty inconsistent with our nahuatl transliteration. The same sound is "sh" in "Shibalbat.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13388535 it is, which is why he needs work. a lot of it.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13388536 Nice job, but I don't mark things that are being worked on because sometimes they tend to drop off the face of the Earth and no one would want to touch it until the person finishes (Taomarin)
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13388300 and small feet and big heads are a part of Pokemon's art style
Also noticed the subway bosses have clown feet. I think that's intentional though. Anonymous
>>13388237 So uh... what are alpha and beta exactly?
Local Moose Friend !isnn/AUU0c
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>>13387716 I have the worse handwriting. H's (or rather h's) get merged into the next letter, most often e. My 'the' looks like 'tle'
Anonymous
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>>13388565 i gave up on my taomarin. it was far too big and my lines were shit
Anonymous
>>13388571 THIS. I don't remember exactly what they are and they haven't had a description since the first one.
RileyVace
Does Erycoon have a backsprite? It doesn't on the wiki but it's not present on that picture list. I wouldn't mind doing that, I love cute fluffy Pokemon.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13388584 The picture only includes up to #100 in the Dex to keep it small and focused, but if you see something thats not on the wiki that you want to work on then by all means go for it.
Nugget
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>>13388081 yea the orangutao has back tits. it's really odd
Anonymous
>>13388583 Two very shitty versions of Plus and Minus
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13388601 >Two very shitty versions of Plus and Minus So plus and minus?
Anonymous
>>13388596 >The picture only includes up to #100 in the Dex to keep it small and focused That's unneeded, people focus on one or two pokemon at a time anyway.
Nugget
>>13388355 the halo is fucked. not round enough
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13388611 If every Pokemon that needed a back sprite was on there the picture would more than likely exceed 4chan's image limit. And once the demo hits, we're going to need the Pokemon directly after #32 to keep progressing and adding playable bits in.
Anonymous
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>>13388611 I think he means so that we get the things people will encounter sooner done sooner, since we're building the game roughly in order of play progression.
Anonymous
>>13388370 People didn't want it "standing there" like the art.
I don't know who made the colors shitty.
Anonymous
>>13388583 >>13388571 >>13388601 Alpha and Beta are abilities similar to plus an minus in that they activate in double battle.
Alpha prevents reduction of speed in regular battle, when in double battle with a pokemon with Beta, it increases attack by two stages and speed by one
Beta prevents reduction of speed in regular battle, when in double battle with a pokemon with Alpha, it increases attack by two stages and Defense by one
Anonymous
>>13388630 Oh okay. Add a line or two of text explaining this to the image.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13388636 That sprite is an old design, we need an entirely new sprite for it
Anonymous
>>13388637 >beta is speed in regular battle but nothing related to it in ab-double Why?
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13388645 Will do. I plan on going to 125 once we get a few more done, then 150, etc.
Ratatosk
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>>13388152 Perhaps do this for the lower shading?
>>13388496 A subtle move of the head, since it does seem a little to far back. Pardon the blackness, I'm currently too tired to redo the outlines properly.
>>13388558 Oh, sorry I missed that. That would actually be
funny .
We need at least one Gym Leader/E4 that's an oddball like that. Muddybuddy probably comes close.
Nugget
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>>13388647 man, the fire rabbit line has pretty bad sprites. the faces are all messed up
Anonymous
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>>13388650 in double battle it gets the other effects added to the prevention of reduction. also, thanks for catching that, meant for beta it cant reduce defense
Anonymous
So now that Wispern is getting his name that only leaves the grass elephants.
Anonymous
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>>13388647 >that shibalbat sprite It looks like something out of tiny toons.
Anonymous
>>13388692 We're waiting to see if we'll get Biophante.
Anonymous
>>13388724 this
it depends on the designs
though eleplant is pretty much set in stone for the prevo
Anonymous
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13388749 ive seen people say they dont like eleplant because it's too "obvious", so dont be too sure about that.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13388760 YOU DID IT!
nice work, anon
Ratatosk
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Okay, seeing as the flood of feedback is ebbing out I may follow my heads wish and retreat to bed. I feel like a lot of progress was done, though. Grerat work, guys. It's really nice to see team efforts like this working~
Anonymous
>>13388618 you raise a good point
alright, now i think its ready
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
is it safe to post movesets? Crits? Suggestions?
I'll do ruin maniac tomorrow Also, closing move limits in an hour if i dont fall asleep. Only at 81, so vote!
http://www.surveymonkey .
com/s/6XXTR6N
Tileanon !dJ6DTaYuFo
Ratatosk
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>>13388760 It seems like I'm the only one judging the expression as dismissive. Oh well.
The hand looks better, but it is also further away from Hyekuza.
That might be a good thing though .
Nugget
>>13388786 seems better. resolution is off though, so I can't tell
Anonymous
>>13388819 its exactly 400%
but heres the 100% one
Anonymous
>>13388786 Your foreshortening on the halo is a bit borked. You need to widen it slightly (very slightly!) on the nearer side (from about 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock) and make the lines smoother.
Sir Vay !yqity7zNyM
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Dump unique evolution ideas here
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=285&st=15 gonna survey them at some time
Especially for Koblin and the Carabugs
Nugget
Anonymous
>>13388868 l-like this?
you might want to take a shot at it yourself
Anonymous
>>13388959 fixed a little something
Anonymous
>>13388959 I think the problem was with the position of the orbs on the halo. Here's a few adjustments.
Anonymous
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>>13388991 yeah thats much better!
Anonymous
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>>13388977 Basically perfect. Only thing is the bottom right of the halo (the pokemon's left) narrows a bit suddenly.
>you might want to take a shot at it yourself If I thought I could do better by my own self, I already would have.
>>13388991 I'm not seeing an improvement.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Why is Cheshade a dusk stone if Howlequin is a normal evolve? Aren't they foils?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389072 seriously, stop
Kirn !grolemYmgg
>>13389072 reminder that this is a fake survey
this will not effect anything and voting in it will be a waste of your time
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Hey guys are we gonna have our own version of nurse joy? Nondell, we'll need you.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13389094 do you not remember our delicious brown nurse?
Anonymous
>>13389087 Oh no, not 10 seconds.
Anonymous
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>>13389094 >nurse joy you know thats just an anime character
the pokecenter nurse is just a two frame sprite
but naturally we would make our own nurse overworld sprite
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13389104 Holy shit. I was probably in china. I like it, but I think her hair should be dwrker. With that hat it reminds me too much of sakura right now.
Anonymous
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>>13389111 Not because it will take time, because it's results will be void
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389111 whats the point of even resurveying this if it doesnt count?
Why do you insist on disregarding the rules?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389128 we tried darker hair. Didnt look as nice.
I guess it's the contrast.
Anonymous
>>13389104 Our nurse is Nicki Minaj?
Anonymous
Alright think I am gonna try another batch of legendary golem designs. If you have suggestions throw em over, but I have a few I wanna sketch quick.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
>>13389094 >>13389104 Damn, when was that made?
March?
Anonymous
I think I've struck on something here. Tell me what you think.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13389161 Only last month apparently.
Anonymous
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
Anonymous
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13389232 huh. Mine says july 22
Anonymous
>>13389240 all of them ;_;
all of the ways
though the shading is a bit better
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Nondell !PJ.OdWT5NU
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>>13389242 There was a small debate over the hair color, I guess lighter hair won.
Anonymous
>>13389265 Man, that is so helpful. Clearly you are the person who always says this pointless shit.
Maybe try some actual constructive criticism.
Anonymous
>>13389341 jesus why are you so hostile
you tried to make the sprite better but it ended up worse
so the advise would be to go back to the sprite you edited
Anonymous
>>13389170 you should quite while you're ahead and just cull this design so we can get a real atom line in this game
Anonymous
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>>13389390 >thinks that we would have replaced the atoms if they got culled Anonymous
>>13389370 I suppose it's because I didn't make it worse. So your comment is noted, and disagreed with.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389390 and then there's this faggot
Anonymous
>>13389424 >I didn't make it worse you wanted opinions and now you are straight up saying those opinions are wrong
raptor/10
Anonymous
>>13389094 >>13389104 i thought we had male nurse and female doctor. i have been calling for cops and health people for months
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Move limit results. It was a close one, but 20-30 came out on top.thank god 7 people failed the filter this time. What is wrong with you people?
Anonymous
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>>13389472 >you wanted opinions and now you are straight up saying those opinions are wrong >Atom14Spriter/10 fix'd for you
Anonymous
>>13389490 What was the filter on that one?
Anonymous
>>13389490 >What is wrong with you people? Typing something into the wiki is hard :(
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13389474 Those are trainer classes. This is the nurse in the pokemon cente. Theres a difference.
Sir Vay !yqity7zNyM
>>13389490 Someone voted that Clash was our Ditto in my first egg survey. Actually I think a few people did.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389506 the % needed for a design to be confirmed.
>>13389509 IT'S IN THE FIRST POST OF EVERY THREAD AND THE OP IMAGE.
I DON'T GET IT.
Anonymous
>>13389490 >20-30 still not enough
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Anonymous
>>13385450 Why is Flairees spelled with an i?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389528 ok that's hilarious
Anonymous
>>13389490 Why so close? I don't get it. People are content with 10 new moves to fill GameFreak-holes with? And wouldn't 8 of those need to be Gym specific? Leaving only 2?
Anonymous
I think it would be cool if one of our mon evolved when a certain stat gets high enough as opposed to level getting high enough. Who would be a good candidate?
Anonymous
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>>13389545 I say we launch a revolution to get a higher move limit
Anonymous
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>>13389549 cause its got a lot of flair!
Anonymous
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>>13389534 The problem is there's too things here: a minimum and a maximum. Those aren't the same. We should have as many moves as we have both need and good ideas for.
Anonymous
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>>13389561 the people who voted have no idea how moves work
we've been trying to say that it isn't enough for days but no one listens
Anonymous
>>13388797 We really should keep Rapid Spin.
Do we have a dedicated hazard setter, like Forretress? and at the risk of being tentacruel, toxic spikes. Makes sense for a glass vial full of toxic fumes to be able to litter the field in poisoned glass shards
Anonymous
>>13387132 >>13387635 >>13387656 >>13387775 >>13387908 >>13388152 >>13388385 >>13388496 alot of this is good enough to wiki. formatting makes it hard for me to know what has been uploaded, but alot of this hadn't. upload you pretties sprite bros. I know you want to make small touches but get something up. so many "private" backsprites/edits these days. sketch had so many touch-ups that he didn't upload that i actually liked,
Anonymous
>>13389561 I believe the main concern is that if there's too many moves we'll end up with a bunch of "look at my cool original move!" bullshit, and/or needless moves made just to pad out the numbers. I agree that we definitely shouldn't have many new moves, but the actual numbers in place are a bit off.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13389604 I guess i could see rapid spin working.
Fumi has toxic spikes as a starting move though
Anonymous
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>>13389567 Atom at high speed?
Anonymous
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>>13389628 >we'll end up with a bunch of "look at my cool original move!" bullshit, and/or needless moves made just to pad out the numbers All moves would be have to be surveyed and confirmed, sp it's not like stupid shit would be allowed to get by
also we have the coders as a last check just in case anything stupid does get by
Anonymous
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>>13389628 I agree that we shouldn't overdo it, not because that would be bad, but because it would be very difficult to execute the way things are done here.
But the fear is completely unfounded, as only 2 'free' original moves would be possible with the smallest option. Now, it's only 12.
At least that probably means we'll have 20-30 really good (as in reasonable) moves.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
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>>13389628 It's like the people who are against new moves dont even look at the proposed move thread.
There's actually a good balance of moves from all different types of power levels.
A bunch of new, interesting moves and type-clones.
Pretty ignorant of them, i gotta say.
Anonymous
>>13389145 Posting concepts.
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Opinons?
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>>13388237 Can someone tell me what this survey was? I dun goofed and thought Xochi was our ditto, i wasn't keeping up on that survey as I didn't really care either way.
I'm really curious about what proposed pokemon would have Alpha and Beta, because I haven't heard of a pair that it would actually fit thematically like Plus/Minus & Plusle/Minum.
Anonymous
>>13389747 >eronze not a medieval knight iron age > bronze age
Anonymous
>>13389747 i always mix up their names
space age looks more like an 80s movie robot, i dont think thats worth continuing
industiral looks pretty cool but that body type doesnt work for how short he is, id make him either taller or give him a middle
bronze/iron is fucking rad, love that design really worth continuing
Anonymous
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>>13389747 Erion looks amazing. Erace could look a bit fiercer.
>>13389755 The only really fitting pairs were Chayan/Macuarrior and Chayan/Ocerumi.
Other options felt a little random, like Pounther/Cubzero for both, Hyekuza for Alpha, or Wendingo for Beta.
Anonymous
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>>13389764 Nobody agrees with you bto.
Anonymous
>>13389755 Also, if anything i think since its about pack animals the same breed of pokemon should have both, so the bonus would be if you're using multiple of them, such as Wendingo, Buckston, Koberus, the Grass Elephant or Indrolith.
But still i think its a weak ability and a gimmick so i'd personally think it should either go to a gimmick or early game/weak pokemon like Buckston over a late-game mon.
pic somewhat related.
Anonymous
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>>13389747 closer to pokemon
nice
Anonymous
>>13389747 holy fuck yes
but the arms need to be connected on erion
Anonymous
>>13389747 i kinda prefer this electric one, but the others are great!
Anonymous
>>13389747 Erion kind of looks like those stupid Despicable Me minion things. My only complaint, overall they look great
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE PUT ONE OF THOSE SHITTY MINION THINGS IN THE GAME COCKSUCKERS READING THIS AND LIKING THAT COMPAIRISON Anonymous
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>>13389858 I agree that the minions shouldn't be in the game...But the minions are pretty awesome.
Anonymous
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>>13389624 a hybrid styled squid
Anonymous
>>13389791 Ya I see where your coming from. I guess it sounds like Erace is the least like so maybe ill rework him.
>>13389832 Ya the arms are connected. Just my idea was fumes are exhasting from him so the smog coveres him up abit. I can always change it.
>>13389847 That was the one i designed yesterday actually. Still I will work on Eracer.
>>13389858 Noted. Erace will change then.
Anonymous
>>13389824 >that feel when the awesome knifebat line didn't make it Anonymous
>>13389755 The pair there that I really like is Macuarrior/Ocerumi.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13389751 it can't have zero physical attacks, can it? I mean, are there any non-gimmick pokemon that have exclusively physical or special moves?
Also, since it's glass, maybe its phys defense could be lower.
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>>13389885 Yeah I meant Erace, i always thought Erace was the space age one
legendaries are for pussies anyway >>13389824 I LOVE THE ONE SPECIES GETTING BOTH IDEA IT ACTUALY
MAKES FUCKING SENSE >>13389914 If only it was in the last survey it would have made it in like the rainbow dragons and
fucking atoms Anonymous
>>13389929 I thought ghost was mostly phsycial attacks
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13389940 it is.
Anyway, i think phlask should at least get astonish if it doesnt get tackle.
Anonymous
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>>13389953 Astonish would be a good early move instead of tackle
Anonymous
>>13389929 it's not strange for mons to learn only special moves or only physical moves
unless you consider Gardevoir a gimmick mon
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>>13389953 it's the only physical move lampent gets, so I don't see why not
Anonymous
>>13389747 I don't want to sound angry or mean; but god i hate Erace's look. He looks too amorphous and directionless. The two other golems have designs resembling the tools used during the times, but nothing used today looks like Erace.
He should resemble stuff used in space stations and other high-tech facilities. Like having some of the nuclear reactors they use in satellites, or instead of just floating for funnies, it could have an Ion engine on the bottom.
Anonymous
>>13389699 Okay but why is Toxic spikes a heart scale move? Can we stop giving everything good moves through relearners?
How do we even get heart scales? We dont have Luvdisc. Nurshary? Isn't that a bit ...forced?
Expressing every possible issue here, even if it means coming off as a dick.
Anonymous
>>13390023 A psychic type doesn't learn any physical moves? what a fucking surprise.
Compare that to an electric or water type, or
a fucking Poison type Question - Is Fumighast Ghost/Poison or Poison/Ghost? Yes, this matters.
In my opinion, the current design should be Poison/Ghost, the other design is more Ghost/poison. Again, yes this matters.
And it bears repeating - Yes, it does matter.
Anonymous
>>13390059 Haha no worries friend. As I said. I will be working on Erace again. I thought I would try something diffrent and it didnt work. Cant be helped right?
Anonymous
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>>13390103 It can be helped by
being Burning :c RIP you magnificent bastard Anonymous
>>13389751 stop posting that its shit
Sir Vay !yqity7zNyM
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gonna keep egg5 open till tommororow night
Anonymous
>>13390146 >stop being proactive! >stop being productive! >this is /vp/ makes a game for god sake! Anonymous
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>>13390103 ohno yeah, i understand, i just meant how i've been seeing him. i haven't been around for long, but he's always seemed have so less connection to what he's supposed to be than the others; fumes, a furnace, smoke stacks, all make Erion look the time; golds, browns, fire, that skirt, make Eronze a respectable fit and representation of the bronze age.
but there are so few things today that involve electricity arching through the air, and such odd shapes. he just reminds me of my least favorite pokemon designs.
Anonymous
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>>13390190 yeah weve never heard that before
its still shit
Anonymous
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>>13389824 >>13389824 >>13389824 Is anyone reading this?
Or am i going to need to spam it each and every thread.i will. Anonymous
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>>13390099 it doesnt matter im kidding, officially he is poison ghost
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>>13390023 well whadda ya know
Anonymous
sorry to repost this but i want to see this decided by days end. any other suggestions or problems?
>>13387112 the problem is that cotton spore is the same as scary face which sort of fits the design better
stockpile and swallow work because the sucker has a huge fucking mouth like carnivine, swallot, pelipper, or mawile.
if it gets cotton spore it would have to lose scary face, which is an option, but it's more of a giant face than a cactus.
cotton guard is mostly for the fluffy mons like mareep and altaria. it's more of a stretch than cotton spore which is sort of a cactus signature.
i'm not saying no, i try not to make choices like that, but if it is gonna get cotton spore it needs to replace scary face with something.
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>>13390063 Good point. Where do you think it should go?
As for heart scales, i'm sure we can come up with something like that woman that asks to see certain moves in gen 5.
Anonymous
>>13389824 i'd prefer one species getting both. mainly because i don't like the gimmick and want to see it confined to one species.
it would be cool to give it to kobalt and koberus though.
Anonymous
>>13390257 Maybe cotton spore can be the egg move and Scary Face the level up move or vice versa. I'm sure there have been redundancies before.
Anonymous
>>13389747 Quickly tried a clean up of Eronze. Not good at shading so im sorry.
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>>13390295 ok fuck, that's kinda cool
Anonymous
>>13390295 at least try a medieval knight design
I mean it wouldn't hurt to try right?
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13390345 but that would break the concept.
Also kill yourself.
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>>13390345 For now i dont want to deviate from the orginal concept of gladiator. And to be honest in some ways this design i feel looks the least like a gladiator compared to most of the designs ive seen so for now Im gonna leave it and work on the other two.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13390295 I I really really like this . He looks badass and pokemon.
Anonymous
>>13390345 why don't you draw it as a knight
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>>13390292 yeah either of these would be fine i think...cotton spore is slightly better.
i literally couldn't begin to tell you which of these identical options it should get via level.
i guess cotton spore to make it more unique? but man it has a scary face.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13390369 Cause hes a gladiator and alwas has been
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>>13390285 That would be cool, Kobalt getting one that boosts defenses and Koberus getting one that boosts Speed. Maybe rename them to fit better, like Flanker for Koberus with the idea that he flanks the enemy pokemon while Kobalt soaks the damage.
Or just give the abilities to the same species like the other anon said.
Anonymous
>>13390397 i was telling the guy requesting the drawing that he should do it himself
we will all shoot it down but at least then he will stop hassling artists
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13390482 Or, sorry, I thought you were him.
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>>13390295 can you give him a bit more of a bdoy
just move his face up
Anonymous
So Loneleaf are they lonely ghosts of the shy kind or lonely ghosts of the *come play with us* variety
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13390844 Lonely like amumu
Anonymous
>>13389747 Eh Erion. I tried to give him limbs in this one but I dont think it turned out as well.
I will work on Erace tommorow
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>>13390988 They are a bit toy like.
But they look like pokemon for once
so I'd say I want 87% this.
Anonymous
>>13390868 i like you.
we should play some time. silvansmith Anonymous
>>13391026 >>13390868 Play Dota. You can't win $1.6 playing LoL
FUCK YEAH ALLIANCE 4LIFE Skele
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>>13390356 Hey QB, are you going to tackle my Breeder blunders?
Anonymous
>>13389927 You mean the ones that get hyper cutter and iron fist? Theyre not even pack animals theyre god damn warrior fighting styles
DURRtle !!SUDJMflPZTZ
>>13391054 this mah nigga
Dat split push was awesome. But Navi gave a great game too. Anonymous
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Wiki doesn't have any evolution levels for Luchito or Barracute
Anonymous
>>13391229 god it was so close, dedndi's monster streak and triple kills, and fucking bro-tier alliance started throwing merch into the crowd, so fucking crazy That last tie-breaker match was the greatest game i've ever seen, so fucking competitive and even, what a perfect end to the tournamentBarracute should evvolve ~40 like other fossils
assuming he even is still a fossil mon because i have certainly staying the fuck outta that argument Anonymous
>>13391321 Dinky and Calphite are the fossil mon
there were several contenders, but that's what was settled on. Just to clear things up.
Anonymous
>>13391321 he isn't a fossil.
assuming he is as late in the game as his dex entry would imply i think he should evolve at around 35
luchito could go as high as 40-45.
Anonymous
>>13391345 Oh shieeeeeeeeeet, i don't think i ever realized they werent the same fucking line. Maybe it's just late
or i'm fucking crazy since i've been here since like november oh my god how have i never noticed or differentiated them Still i'd say late 30s then, maybe 37? He seems like a tough mofo
DURRtle !!SUDJMflPZTZ
>>13391321 It made me remember their Roshan trap against EG 8 month ago. Their strategis are just way too awesome. Gotta be there next year
Anonymous
Why is the Youngster with the poncho the warm weather variant? Ponchos are cold weather garments, like jackets. Also, Poncho youngster is huge.
Anonymous
>>13391366 37 would be fine. how about 46 for luchito?
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>>13389927 >>13391204 honestly i dont know why they're on the list, they dont fit at all.
Anonymous
>>13391417 Ponchos are a warm weather garment also.
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>>13391417 >Why is the Youngster with the poncho the warm weather variant? because he hasn't anything on under it
Anonymous
>>13391391 To be honest since i'm such a casual player i never thought i could end up as immersed in the whole event as i ended up being, but holy shit. I need to be there next year too.
>>13391417 Pic related son.
Anonymous
>>13391204 I think the whole thing is stupid, but it's not like it's named after pack hunters or anything.
They should have just been combined into one ability.
Anonymous
>>13391361 >>13391366 >>13391437 I'm not really confortable changing it. Dunno why. just bringing it to the groups attention
im also tired as shit
Anonymous
>>13391473 >They should have just been combined into one ability. Pack Animal:
this pokemon gets a boost to attack for every other pokemon in your party with Pack Animal.
there would have been an NPC with 6 of them at some point in the game and he would tear you apart.
Anonymous
Can we get some more variety in the early game mon? Doesn't have to be almost exclusively ice just because it is snowing.
Anonymous
what if he was sentient fire controlling the armor
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>>13391483 it's fine, i'll add them. if it's blank right now nobody would argue our numbers are worse than nothing. if it is a problem later it will be changed. little details like this will get smoothed over as the region is mapped and we know what levels our pokemon are going to be appearing at.
Anonymous
>>13391500 who would you add. we have more once you get rod, but what would you include
Anonymous
>>13391499 dunno if that can be done.
But while we're pissing in the wind,
I think it should be either
>boosts this mon and allies >boosts this mon and allies with (same ability) >Boots this mon and allies when fighting alongside someone with (same ability) First one is best imo
screw this some assembly required where you need both pieces just to make it work.
Anonymous
>>13391499 >>13391499 God this is so much better than Alpha and Beta. This should be surveyed honestly, it solves the whole "who should get these lame ass super situational abilities because THERE AREN'T EVER EVEN THAT MANY FUCKING DOUBLE OR TRIPLE BATTLES IN THE GAME" and that reminds me:
do we have triple battle capabilities?
Anonymous
>>13391470 I agree. Ponchos are great for those cold desert nights. But, aside for Clint Eastwood and other characters in Italian-made westerns, you don't see too many people wearing woolen blankets as shirts in the middle of the day, unless it's a cold day.
>>13391452 If they're thin, I suppose it's an interesting fashion statement. But, traditionally, ponchos are the South American equivalent of a cloak; meant to keep you warm while traveling or sleeping outdoors.
Plus, we've got the poncho youngster line (about how much he likes ponchos) at the beginning in the cold mountain town. Shouldn't that be where the poncho youngster goes?
Anonymous
>>13391502 That'd be great if it were a fire type.
Anonymous
>>13391417 >I like ponchos! They're comfy and easy to wear! Get that hat shit outta here
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>>13391517 dunno
i guess it is built pretty solid
maybe i'm just tired and grumpy
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>>13391500 the early mons are dominated by normal and ice but there is flying, dark, and bug in there too. also cowatti...the lack of diversity isn't that unprecedented.
Anonymous
>>13391533 But they'r-
>>13391539 >>13391539 >>13391539 I FUCKING HAD THAT HALF TYPED
nice one Anonymous
>>13391536 >that be great if it were fire type Anonymous
>>13391536 ...
>>13391531 Not to mention wasting two instead of one of our limited custom ability slots
>>13391499 >this pokemon gets a boost to attack for every other pokemon in your party with Pack Animal. Would be really interesting if it only counted unfainted mon.
Anonymous
>>13391527 >>13391531 gen6 inspired the "pokemon in party" change.
swirlix ability works even when it's not in battle. i think we are going to see a lot more abilities which reflect the party composition.
Anonymous
>>13391547 You're my favorite here have a cute picture I drew
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since somebody brought up evolution levels i looked through the dex...a lot of them are ridiculous i thought comossus was going to be our volcarona? it evolves at level 32. a lot of the late dex mons evolve at 32. what. a lot should all be going into the 40s. comossus should be mid 50s at least. it's stats are stupid.
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>>13391604 was the massive flames from his back not a give-a-way?
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>>13391573 Thing about gen6 inventions is there is no guarantee we can McGuyver them with essentials. just food for thought
Anonymous
>>13391599 Sweet, is it bad the reason i like Leukoon is the all consuming void in its belly?
i think that was the edgiest thing i ever typed on this board To show my thanks have a picture i drew of me licking moosey goose's antlers.
Anonymous
>>13391619 I HEREBY PROMOTE DISCUSSION OF THIS TOPIC!
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Pokemon_Evolution HAVE FODDER!
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>>13391639 your mom has a all consuming void in its belly... cus she keeps eating... cus shes fat all the pieces are there someone make a joke Anonymous
>>13391619 Basilect evos at 50 but Diamat at 60.
Is this a because bugs evolve sooner thing?
Shouldn't their BFF status overrule that?
also
>>13389083 this
Anonymous
>>13391642 >http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Pokemon_Evolution Okay Koblin and Koberus. First off, NO SPESHAL AREA LEVEL UP EVOLUTION like that mt. coronet shit, shits stupid.
Tradings also outta the question, so i guess we'll have to get
creative Anonymous
>>13391533 >But, traditionally, ponchos are the South American equivalent of a cloak Shit; really? i thought they were like desert robes, meant to keep you cool by blocking the sun, but not being thick enough to insulate you.
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>>13391658 I think its a combination of bugs evolve early and diamonds taking a long fucking time to form. I'd vote keep as is personally. Maybe have Basilect learn a great dragon move at 60 and Diamat too like some draco meteor typa thing if you want them paired more
Anonymous
>>13391671 >speshal not sure if intentional
Anonymous
>>13391674 No, most functional ponchos are made of thick wool or alpaca. They're meant as traveling garments to keep you warm and protect you from the weather.
The only other ponchos I've heard of are thin ones that were popular fashion wear for 70s moms and chamantos, which are formal silk poncho that I doubt a kid would be allowed to wear while traipsing through the wilderness.
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>>13391691 totes, ya'know like super speshal snowflake
i'm from /tg/ and have met roleplayers more autistic and mary sue than chris chan mixed with a down syndromed brony autist who sleeps with Pamperchu Anonymous
>>13391671 i think the koblin evolution should be based on outside/inside of a cave. kobalt is evo inside of cave. koberus is evo outside of cave. people have been saying this for a while.
>>13391658 basilect and diamat don't have matching type progressions either.
>>13389083 we need to calculate how many stone evolutions we need to have in the game to justify stones...existing...
i see no reason why howlequin couldn't evolve by dusk stone too...
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>>13391642 we have discussed some things
>koblin evolves into kobalt if reaches x level while sealed off from sunlight (indoors, in a cave, etc.) and into koberus if outside >flowger should be able to evolve by EITHER a water or a grass stone Anonymous
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>>13391705 i guess it just goes to show that 'murricans don't know shit about foreign clothing.
Anonymous
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>>13391674 They're common among Andean tribes because of the cold weather at high altitudes.
Anonymous
Here, have a less enormous poncho youngster without a hat.
Anonymous
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So who wants to make a wiki page/image showing all the item/special evolutions we have so far so we dont have no fire stone pokees and 5 water stone pokes and figure out those au-fucking-tistic shiny/bright/rainbow/adhd/dusk/dawn/sun/jenkem stones and which we'll use/avoid Especially because one of the points )i think) of getting a water stone for example is having 2 pokemon to choose from to evolve and then having a second one be rarer/won in the casino
Anonymous
>>13391723 stone count:
fire-2
thunder-2
water-1
dusk-2
shiny-1
dawn-0
grass-0
moon-1
sun-0
Anonymous
Anonymous
are there going to be shiny pokemon?
DURRtle !!SUDJMflPZTZ
>>13391674 on the Andes, ppl use them to cover themselves from the low temperatures.
however, on certain desertic places, their use is, as you said, to cover from the sun.
Anonymous
>>13391759 I say we have ~2 for each we use
>>13391774 yeah theres some done but dont you fucking dare start spriting any because we need to confirm which sprites are actually done/usable since many will be tweaked
Anonymous
>>13391769 >smoke weed 420 sorry i'm tired. we shoud make trikotta evolve into terrorcotta by leaf stone. especially considering it's current evolution method will be invalidated by it's proposed move changes.
>>13391774 yeah
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>>13391794 ************two pokemon evolve by that stone i mean
Anonymous
>>13391794 >>13391795 alright, just asking because i've been here a few days and it just hit me i haven't heard anything about it.
are the colors for the shiny pokemon at least decided?
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>>13391790 I've only ever seen thin sun ponchos on women from the US living in cities like LA and San Antonio.
It makes more sense to make the winter youngster the poncho one, because the "I Like Ponchos" kid is right outside your cold, mountainous home village. And in the area that village is analogous to, ponchos are worn for warmth and protection from weather.
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>>13391755 Really dig this hatless version.
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>>13391759 we could make fortifry->oarwish a dawn stone evolution. it's sparkling quality would reflect how it evolves from a frumpy fish into a beautiful sea babe.
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>>13391755 this isn't bad but i like the hat version too
could we have both? why not have variations amongst trainers? i could easily see some other trainer types receiving minor variations.
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>>13391813 Some are, they're usually so easy/fast for spriters to do that its hardly worth planning. Check the forum, there might be a post about it, i wouldn't know since i can't into sprites/art
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>>13391794 >>13391813 sprites are never done, shinies wait because they are easy, fun and not a substantial part of a normal play through. If you want to make shinies, open up paint and try making back sprites.
Anonymous
>>13391759 i say we make moon and shiny use the same
make one more use water
and just dont include the other 4
Anonymous
You are to make a team of only gen vp and gen VI, there must be at least 2 from each. What do you choose?
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>>13391856 i think we should diversify our mons a bit.
currently flowger needs a water stone to evolve but it could use a leaf or water. hopanero uses a fire stone but it could use a leaf or fire. if we had several of these dual stoners it could be interesting.
Anonymous
>>13389490 >yfw every vote mattered GLORIOUS DEMOCRACY
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>>13391759 biophante line can evo through leaf stone
pybex could evolve via dawn stone
if we tweak the design a little bit pueblant could evo via sun stone
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>>13391874 vivillion
flabebe
grolem
tozeko
hydranticus
ocerumi
my choice changes dramatically through out making this game and through out gen 6 mons being shown
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>>13391874 baboom, Hyekuza, Skrelp, Pancham+everstone, Orangutao, Lumishroom.
Totally would trade those gen 6s though for Phanturn and Mosshroom though.
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>>13389549 Fl-Aries, God of Flwar.
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>>13391921 >pybex could evolve via dawn stone I actually really like this idea.
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Good job on the sprites everyone.
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>>13391874 Take these six, and replace Chillnobyl and Thoraxe with Honedge and Mega Blaziken
Anonymous
>>13391642 have an idea for dopple, maybe evolves if you have multiple dopple in your party.
also for captured poke in wild, doppole should have a random chance for nearly every item in the game.
Anonymous
>>13391921 i like biophante and psybex. not into pueblant.
sun stone is a tricky one.
Anonymous
>>13391963 doppole should be a stone evo. because i want to keep mine a doppole.
Anonymous
>>13391978 >I want to keep mine a dopple everstone
>>13391969 we don't really have any mons that directly relate to the sun in any way. I'd say make a new mon but that's not an option
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>>13391919 If one person changed there vote it would be a tie.
therefor: EVERY VOTE MATTERED GLORIOUS DEMOCRACY
Anonymous
>>13391993 what about sunduke
Anonymous
>>13391993 >we don't really have any mons that directly relate to the sun in any way. Solacari. Not that it's relevant in this case.
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>>13391978 well my reasoning is doppole is kinda badass while artifish is derpy but big. so if you have enough doppole in a party one evolves into the larger tankier amphibious doppole attack vessel that is artifish.
Anonymous
>>13391921 >Dosire/sunduke leaf stone or sun stone
>kobold could do day/night, we dont have that yet
>Necrotie Evolves when it learns future sight. though this isnt completely necessary, just throwing an idea out there
>Cairup I think we could go with like dawn stone
>Perishroom forgive me, but i feel like level up when fainted is just unmanageable, it would work better if leveled up when poisoned
Anonymous
>>13392019 how about when using a revive?? so you can avoid getting type by going to pokecentre
Anonymous
>>13392019 >forgive me, but i feel like level up when fainted is just unmanageable rurr candy dog
sunduke is the only one i agree with here btw
Anonymous
>>13392019 >level up when fainted rare candy
>cairup fine as is
psybex is getting the dawn stone
>kobold supposed to evolve depending on whether you are inside or outside
>Dosire/sunduke not actually related to the sun. just a coincidence
>necronite doesn't make sense
Anonymous
>>13392019 >a poison type >leveling up when poisoned Not possible. Rare Candies work when fainted, but there could be a supply issue.
Maybe if it leveled up in a battle and then fainted before it ended it would be workable.
Anonymous
>>13392028 stop
he evolves when given a rare candy while fainted
>>13392005 >>13392042 sunduke has no relation to the sun
Sunduke is a combination of Sundews (carnivorous plants) and the title of Duke.
no relation
Anonymous
>>13392047 >supply issue what is battle tower
seriously
Anonymous
>>13392058 Something that that not very many people actually do. And would take a buttload of grinding on top of that. It's far from ideal.
Anonymous
>>13392054 >>13392043 while it's true that sunduke is based on a sundew which isn't specifically tied to the sun
it is also a grass type...which are the ones who usually evolve via sun stones.
Anonymous
>>13392076 we can make sure there is a rare candy somewhere near or before the mushrooms are generally encountered.
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>>13392047 supply issue may not exist, there are alot of new mechanism proposed for game, could use auror berries or process auror berries into rare candies. but we need to establish lots of berry costs
Anonymous
>>13392076 Oh, and I forgot to mention that it's post game only, so if you had to use your rare candies before then you would have to wait a long time before being able to evolve the pokemon.
Anonymous
>>13392081 it also has chlorophyll so it clearly likes the sun
Anonymous
>>13392047 you're right, i forgot it was poison rather than pure grass. my bad. but again, rare candy isnt really viable. because when you revive it with a rare candy it just is alive again. though if you were to program it to evolve when a revive is used, thats plausible
>>13392043 I for one am against inside and outside, and seeing as day/night happiness evolutions dont exist in our dex, id rather see an established evolution method over a super special snowflake method.
also, its not 100% that psybex is getting the dawn stone yet. also, why not two pokemon evolving with dawn stone?
I also assume we'll end up having a survey about some of this stuff eventually?
Anonymous
>>13392083 or what if in the town after, a kid will give you a rarecandy if you have one, like;
"Oooh, a Kertruffle!? I heard they can evolve really cool like if you give them a rare candy, here have mine!"
Anonymous
>>13392096 >>13392081 >stretching it this much just stop
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>>13392094 nobunatas will have a 5% chance to hold a rare candy
Anonymous
>>13392112 seems a bit heavy handed
>>13392113 why do cottonee and petili evolve via sunstone other than the fact that they are grass type pokemon with the ability chlorophyll?
Anonymous
>>13392112 this
just have hints to it's evolution method like a trainer that has all four
when you beat him he tells you about the evolution methods and gives you a rare candy
Anonymous
>>13392107 You are mistaken. Rare candies DO level up fainted pokemon.
Anonymous
>>13392130 yeah; i'm not good at writing lines, but it would make sense and be easy for it to just be a kid giving it to you, while hinting at it. Most people don't go into everyone's house when entering a city, so it's not like everyone will get the RareCandy.
>>13392132 he shouldn't tell you the evolution methods at all, or hint to hard at how it's done, just a light hint that they're related.
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>>13392107 i will start keeping track of suggestions and put together a survey tomorrowish
Anonymous
>>13392130 why do cottonee and petili evolve via sunstone other than the fact that they are grass type pokemon with the ability chlorophyll?
it's not because of chlorophyll. its because of their designs
they are clearly immature buds that open and mature when exposed to the SUN
same with sunkurn being a seed that sprouts into a plant through the help of the SUN
sunduke doesn't have that aspect to it. it just sort of gets bigger
Anonymous
>>13392153 thats not what im saying. Im saying have it evolve when a certain item is used. its revived after the leveling takes place when you use rare candy, and so would never go off.
if you make it evolve when a rarecandy is used, it could be use alive or not
if you make it evolve when a revive is used, it would evolve after fainted
Anonymous
>>13392166 then why not forgo the level up with attract for growmeo and tuliep for sunstone evolutions?
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>>13392170 Actually it's quite easy to put a staus affect as a condition for evolution, Fainted counts as a status affect you would just need to put it as the condition: Fainted,+1 level
>>13392177 They fit a lot better.
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>>13392177 Because the Attract thing is an important part of their concept.
Anonymous
>>13392170 you can have a pokemon evolve while fainted.
if it reaches the correct level and faints in battle it will still evolve
Anonymous
>>13392155 Yeah, something like starting a battle by saying "Did you know that a REVIVE can give a fainted pokemon a second wind?" and on your win saying "I heard that a RARE CANDY can revive fainted pokemon too. If I wad one I would have been able to keep battling with KERTRUFFLE"(caps are for oldschool swag)
Anonymous
>>13392190 not really anon. ive had pokemon reach the right level and faint in battle. afterwards they dont evolve.
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>>13392177 because it's a crucial part of the design
>>13392006 then just give that nigger an evo that's fire/flying or something
Anonymous
>>13392200 well the same happened to me and it did evolve
Anonymous
>>13392194 why not just a kid with a kerfuffle who says "i know that kerfuffle evolves into perishroom if it levels while fainted but i can't figure out how to do that..."
let people figure the rest out for themselves. also people can always just check the wiki.
Anonymous
>>13392200 >>13392207 must be a gen thing then, i've been playing emerald, and i couldn't evolve my shroomish twice because it fainted.
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>>13392207 what generation? it might have been a thing they did in gen 5 that i didnt know about
Anonymous
>>13392166 ok i see what you are saying.
the "biophante" designs for the crass elephants have the first stage as a bud.
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>>13392214 mine was in gen V. as long as it hits the required level during battle and then faints it will still evolve and will still be fainted after it evolves
this should solve the rarecandy problem
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>>13392211 >you didn't get the subtle joke that the kid wouldn't be battling with a kertruffle anymore. Anonymous
>>13392225 that will only work if the right design is chosen, and it's far from confirmed
Anonymous
>>13392233 hmm maybe the survey should wait until then. because that would be perfect for a sunstone.
Anonymous
>>13392245 or only do it for confirmed designs nigger
Anonymous
>>13392250 with exception to kobolds. dat shit needs evolutions
Anonymous
>>13392250 >>13392258 we don't need to know the evolution methods of pokemon who won't be in the demo.
kobolds should be figured out sooner and then the survey for the rest will be later. it's important to have it all in one survey because people probably don't want to have too many lines with stone evos.
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>>13392250 except there are no confirmed designs suitable for a sunstone evolution
Anonymous
>>13392275 we only need one line for each stone
extras can be turned into normal evolutionary lines
Anonymous
>>13392284 >we only need one line for each stone Then what's the point in having the stone? You'd just use it for that one line, there's no trade off.
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>>13392291 maybe they are rare/must be won in the casino
but i agree that having multiple is good.
Anonymous
>>13392291 >no trade off and? we only have so many mons. we can't afford to give any more than 1 line per stone otherwise they will start clogging up the dex
Anonymous
>>13392321 gen 1 had three mons per stone. i realize they had half as many stones but we have a lot more mons.
Anonymous
>>13392321 >we only have so many mons We have 229, more than any gamefreak game. We can do it just fine.
>>13392331 To be fair eevee filled a lot of those slots by itself.
Anonymous
>>13392331 maybe we should try and have at least 2 mons for all of the original stones and then one mon for each of the new stones with the newer stones being only available through casino/other means.
Anonymous
>>13392339 Or we could just leave out certain stones, we don't need to meet a fucking quota.
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>>13392345 true but what about my raging ocd
Anonymous
>>13392345 Yeah, but then we have to pick which we use and which we don't. Sun seems like one to leave out. Leaf kind of does but it's one of the core ones and easy to apply.
Anonymous
>>13392338 5% of the entire gamefreak pokedex evolves via evolutionary stone
in comparison, if we were to have two lines per stone, that would be 18 pokemon that evolve via evolutionary stone'
that's around 7%
I think it'd be better to do as
>>13392339 says and give 2 lines only to the original stones
Anonymous
>>13392359 just keep the originals
we can leave out the other ones
Anonymous
>>13392438 i...kinda actually agree with this.
fuck dawn stone
fuck sun stone
fuck shiny stone
Anonymous
>>13392394 so for the new stones we have
dawn-gnuru line (new idea that is well liked)
shiny-royjibiv line
dusk-vultrygyst & cheshade line
sun-potentially the grass elephants or shit something else (new idea that isn't anywhere near final)
we could even drop the dusk stone evo from cheshade considering people are concerned it doesn't match up with howlequin
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>>13392438 We'll keep the ones that fit. Bright stone is good for light wave rainbow dragon, and dusk would be good for Cheshade and Howlequin. Fire and Water are already good too, lets make sure we look at
>>13391759 for which ones we should use.
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>>13392466 we already have a pokemon which evolves by shiny stone.
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>>13392466 >>13392438 how about no
we already have the mons lined up. we just need to wait for the elephants to be confirmed
Anonymous
>>13392480 how about we move vulter and cheshade to moon
and make either gnuru use moon/shiny or have royjibiv use use dawn
then we have the original 5 and one extra
Anonymous
>>13392530 the way we have it planned right now is fine
Anonymous
>>13392530 cheshade makes a lot of sense with dusk, royjibiv makes a lot of sense with shiny, and gnuru makes sense with dawn.
i don't really know why the vultures would have dusk. it kind of fits.
Anonymous
>>13392544 >>13392547 yeah i agree
it just seems to me like there isnt enough uses for each stone
gen one had
3, 4, 3, 2, 4
uses for each of its original 5
Anonymous
>>13392547 how does gnuru make sense with dawn? im sorry that im not seeing it, could you explain the reasoning?
Anonymous
>>13392563 again, look at the actual statistics here
only 5% of the gamefreak dex evolves via stone
if we have even TWO lines per stone, we would far surpass that percentage
no one wants to have 10+ percent of the dex evolve by stone. more importantly, we don't even have enough suitable mons for that many stone evolutions
at most we can have 1 line per stone plus a little extra. any more would be ludicrous
Anonymous
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>>13392591 yeah, BUT if we had two lines each for only 4, 5 or 6 of the stones, then it wouldnt be so crazy but each stone would still be just as valuble
and imo, i think gf should add more stone evolutions, gen 1 had a good amount, they should have stuck with that this of course isnt priority
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>>13392564 there is no set reasoning for evolving with the dawn stone
it's pretty much random considering that only two pokmon evolve using it, neither are remotely related
it just seems to fit though, for whatever reason
Anonymous
>>13392591 >we must stay within the bounds of gamefreak at all costs! that said, i agree
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I USED THE MAX REVIVE
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>>13392601 looks great to me!
go ahead and add it to the wiki
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>>13392610 I wasn't saying it was an iron clad percentage, just as reference
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13391759 Terrocotta should get the leafstone since it can't evolve while learning heart power anymore
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>>13392955 also loneleaf could evolve via happyness
Anonymous
>>13392955 or we could just give it tremor
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>>13393449 you are only making people hate those moves behaving like this
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>>13393449 Don't be the move version of quarkfag
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>>13393449 You keep forcing it and people will vote against it. Stop being a faggot.
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Starting a new thread
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