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Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:09:56 No.13431884 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13431959 >>13432628 >>13432666 >>13436082

What is the worst type combination possible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:10:55 No.13431903 Report

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Grass/Dark or Ice/Rock I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:11:12 No.13431905 Report

Quoted By: >>13432332

Fire/Flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:13:27 No.13431928 Report

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fire/water?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:14:31 No.13431933 Report

Quoted By: >>13431939 >>13431946 >>13431971 >>13431990

Defensively, ice/rock.

Offensively, normal/poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:14:35 No.13431934 Report

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Fire/flying Ice/flying Bug/flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:16:08 No.13431939 Report

Quoted By: >>13431952 >>13432011 >>13436283

>>13431933
normal/dragon would be pretty terrible offensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:16:57 No.13431943 Report

Quoted By: >>13436981

Bug /Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:17:11 No.13431946 Report

Quoted By: >>13432016

>>13431933
>Not monotyped Normal offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:17:58 No.13431952 Report

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>>13431939
wat ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:18:39 No.13431959 Report

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>>13431884
fire/fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:19:03 No.13431964 Report

Quoted By: >>13431990

What about a low defence grass psychic pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:19:45 No.13431971 Report

Quoted By: >>13431993

>>13431933
normal give you STAB return and explosion, I think poison/steel is the worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:21:44 No.13431990 Report

Quoted By: >>13431997 >>13432001

>>13431964
>>13431933

surely ice/grass would be even worse

4x weakness to fire, which is more common than bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:22:01 No.13431993 Report

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>>13431971
offensively, defensively it's a fucking beast (even better if it has levitate).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:22:30 No.13431997 Report

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>>13431990
Genesect has 4x weakness to fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:22:58 No.13432001 Report

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>>13431990
ice/rock has Fighting 4x weakness, so it's worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:24:13 No.13432011 Report

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>>13431939

>normal/dragon type used outrage

Good enough for me, at least until gen VI

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:24:15 No.13432012 Report

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>>13431997

yeah but ice/grass has 6 other weaknesses as well

>>13432001

yeah true

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Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:24:22 No.13432016 Report

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>>13431946

>type combination
>monotyped

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:24:33 No.13432019 Report

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>>13431997
But it's steel typing also lets it resist a lot of other types to compensate for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:25:57 No.13432029 Report

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>>13431997
So has scyzor, the king of fucking overused pokes.
Some weaknesses are less worse than others. It all depends of how said weakness work.
Before stealth rock was introduced, nobody would care about a weakness to rock.
weakness to bug was also not that bad before Uturn.
Priority moves also change the balance a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:26:16 No.13432031 Report

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http://jetlogs.org/sandbox/pokemon_type_calc.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:31:58 No.13432073 Report

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Normal/Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:34:23 No.13432101 Report

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bug/grass. poor parasect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:34:27 No.13432104 Report

Quoted By: >>13432150

ice steel basically has no resistance against things most people use.
rock/steel also scream "pls rape my face"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:41:18 No.13432150 Report

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>>13432104

Although steel typing gives weaknesses to common attack types, there's no way the worst combination contains steel. Steel has more resistances than any other type, and is aguarbly the best defensive type in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:43:54 No.13432171 Report

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Anybody saying Steel is flat out wrong. Steel automatically gives too many useful resistances to be nullified by a secondary typing, including the all-important Dragon resist. Ice/Grass and Bug/Grass both have some great resistances and neutralities (resisting Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt whilst being neutral to Ice Beam, in the former case), despite their flaws. In fact, pretty much any Grass type is let off the hook because of this; that's why they're so vital in OU. I'd have to agree that Ice/Rock is possibly the worst, as the Ice typing nullifies the one good resistance Rock does have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 15:55:25 No.13432266 Report

Quoted By: >>13432335 >>13432420 >>13432422 >>13432475 >>13432537 >>13432567

I made a program to run through all type combinations and score them against each type.
+3 for immunity, +2 for quad resists, +1 for resists, -1 for super effective, and -2 for double super effective.

the worst defensive type combination is a 5 way tie at -1 points with

Rock/Flying
Rock/Fire
Rock/Water
Rock/Ice
Rock/Dragon

the best type combination is a 7 way tie at 9 points with

Normal/Poison
Normal/Ghost
Normal/Grass
Normal/Electric
Poison/Grass
Poison/Electric
Grass/Electric

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Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:01:16 No.13432332 Report

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>>13431905

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:01:27 No.13432335 Report

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>>13432266
>Poison/Grass
Feels Venusaur, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:12:54 No.13432420 Report

Quoted By: >>13432509

>>13432266
isnt the best type combo ghost/steel because it resists/its inmune to a lot of thing and just have 2 weaknesses? (unless you put levitate on account, so its only weak to fire)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:12:57 No.13432422 Report

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>>13432266
The only problem with your program is that some weakness are worse than other and some resists and immunity are better than other and your program doesn't take that in consideration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:20:05 No.13432475 Report

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>>13432266
That's nice, though some weaknesses are worse to have that others, and some resistances are more useful.
For exaple, resisting Poison is almost meaningless, while resisting Fighting is incredibly useful.

Even then, Ice/Rock is probably the shittiest possible typing. It's got a great offensive combination, but death to most priority, entry hazards, and all those weaknesses combined means no safe switching in...
Yeah, Ice/Rock is most likely the shittiest type combo overall.

Edges

Edges Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:23:09 No.13432501 Report

Quoted By: >>13437104

Ice/Rock or Bug/Ice.

Hopefully if we ever get those, they will either be fast as fuck with really high attack or sp. Attack, or they will have unholy defensive stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:24:05 No.13432509 Report

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>>13432420
It can't hit other Steel-types very well, so walls fuck it up. Dragon/Fighting is another good one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:24:57 No.13432518 Report

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fire bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:27:57 No.13432537 Report

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>>13432266
oh shit i fucked up, i had my 2d array variables switched, i know that list didn't look correct. after the fix the new list is this.

worse types
Ice/Rock: -4
Ice/Grass: -4
Ice/Psychic: -4

top 3 best type combinations
Steel/Ghost: 16 points
Steel/Flying: 15 Points
Steel/Normal AND Steel/Fighting: 12 Points

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:29:40 No.13432551 Report

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Fire/Flying because Stealth Rock everywhere

Fire/Flying might as well bend over and take the pounding the moment it leaves its pokeball

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:29:57 No.13432554 Report

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Rock/Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:30:29 No.13432558 Report

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>>13432537
No wonder Skarmory is so good.

Then again I think that means those are only good on defensive 'mons, so Honedge is going to probably suffer from stats that don't jive with its typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:30:54 No.13432567 Report

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>>13432266
Surely dark/ghost is pretty boss defensively

No weakness, immunity to three types, resistance to one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:38:54 No.13432628 Report

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>>13431884
psychic/grass, rock/psychic and ice/grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:39:58 No.13432640 Report

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Normal/Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:42:39 No.13432665 Report

Quoted By: >>13432706

Rock/Ice is the worst I can think of defensively. 4x Fighting weakness, 2x Ground weakness, 2x Rock weakness, 2x Water weakness, 2x Grass weakness, 4x Steel weakness. And most of those are common attack types in the metagame right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:42:47 No.13432666 Report

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>>13431884
Source on OP pic? He looks familiar somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:43:51 No.13432671 Report

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Water/Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:46:48 No.13432692 Report

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Ice/Normal

Resists one type, immune to one type, and weak to a shitton of stuff, including 4x fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:47:32 No.13432700 Report

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Ice/Poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:48:07 No.13432706 Report

Quoted By: >>13432730

>>13432665
grass/psychic still has more weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 16:51:07 No.13432730 Report

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>>13432706
It has more weaknesses, but the weaknesses it has aren't as bad as Ice/Rock because they are aren't as popular attacking types. Plus it has Fighting/Ground/Water resists, which could be pretty useful.

Slendro

Slendro Fri 16 Aug 2013 20:47:46 No.13435077 Report

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bug/flying and normal/flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 22:25:51 No.13436082 Report

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>>13431884
Bug/Ice

The rocks. The fire.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 22:40:23 No.13436283 Report

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>>13431939
>dragon
>horrible offensively

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:01:51 No.13436556 Report

Quoted By: >>13436614 >>13436661 >>13436891

Is Bug/Steel the best type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:05:59 No.13436614 Report

Quoted By: >>13436857

>>13436556
Ghost/Steel is pretty fucking powerful
3 immunities and like 9 resistances

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:07:04 No.13436631 Report

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The math's been done on this, and I believe it's bug/grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:08:56 No.13436661 Report

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>>13436556
Only one weakness but potentially good type coverage. The real dealbreaker for this typing boils down to stats and a movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:24:54 No.13436857 Report

Quoted By: >>13437110

>>13436614
Isn't Honedge that type?
Holy shit, Hopefully he has good stats and a good moveset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:27:07 No.13436891 Report

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>>13436556
yeah as long as you don't let it out on a hot day or it'll melt

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Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:33:02 No.13436981 Report

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>>13431943
Get a load of this guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:42:15 No.13437104 Report

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>>13432501
It would have to have shuckle's Def and Sp Def, and Blissy's HP, and Solid Rock to even have a hope of being useful defensively

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2013 23:42:43 No.13437110 Report

Quoted By: >>13437394

>>13436857
As long as he low accuracy/high power moves he'll be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 00:05:50 No.13437394 Report

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>>13437110
According to Serebii, he can learn Shadow Sneak, Swords Dance and Aerial Ace. Aerial Ace is fucking useless though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 00:17:34 No.13437515 Report

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What about Bug/Psychic?

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