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Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:42:07 No.13453032 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13453045 >>13453051 >>13453085 >>13453891

>5 complete generations
>Freezing implemented in Gen 1
>Still no Freezing Status move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:43:20 No.13453045 Report

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>>13453032
That would be brok-
>always insta-thawing
That would be useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:43:27 No.13453047 Report

Quoted By: >>13453058

yeah can't wait for not being able to move for 10 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:43:41 No.13453051 Report

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>>13453032
Good
I lost my Arcanine in B2 because Zoos or whatever his name was froze it with a Weavile
I was frozen for like 8 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:44:51 No.13453058 Report

Quoted By: >>13454160

>>13453047
This

At least with sleep, you can either have an ability that wakes you up, or have the off chance that you have Sleep Talk in your moveset.

Being unable to move and only having limited things to free you from it, is bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:45:03 No.13453060 Report

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It's like you WANT to get fucked in the ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:47:03 No.13453085 Report

Quoted By: >>13453091

>>13453032
10% accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:47:43 No.13453091 Report

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>>13453085
Recoil every time you use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 22:55:47 No.13453179 Report

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this could be made balanced with some other effect added onto it

maybe if you tack a future sight style Fire move onto it, forcing the frozen pokemon to unfreeze if they stay in for enough turns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:35:46 No.13453802 Report

Quoted By: >>13453873

Freeze should have a set number of turns before it thaws. Balanced enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:39:22 No.13453870 Report

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Why can most fire types being frozen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:39:26 No.13453873 Report

Quoted By: >>13453933 >>13454183

>>13453802
I'm thinking it should add up to the chance of thawing out.

First turn, 10%. Second turn, 20%. Third turn, 40%. Fourth turn, 80%. Fifth turn, 100%. Something like that. Or maybe 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 60%, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:40:31 No.13453891 Report

Quoted By: >>13453916 >>13453923 >>13453931

>>13453032
I do agree

Why is freeze any more unbalanced than sleep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:42:23 No.13453916 Report

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>>13453891
Because it's much easier to put something to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:42:57 No.13453923 Report

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>>13453891
Because there's a chance that freeze will never go away, while sleep always goes away in 5 turns or less

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:43:35 No.13453931 Report

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>>13453891

Because at least you KNOW you'll wake up after 3 turns at the worst. That's not how it goes with Freezing.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:43:44 No.13453933 Report

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>>13453873
That's not a bad idea.
>>13453916
I think that's what he meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:47:55 No.13453984 Report

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>>13453916
Yeah, that's what I meant: why is it easier?
>>13453923
>>13453931
Are you quite sure? I swear they changed it after gen I....ok, Bulba here I come

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:51:16 No.13454026 Report

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The whole point of freezing is to be a unbalanced alternative to sleep though. If it was made balanced and given a status move, it would be no different from sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:56:52 No.13454106 Report

Quoted By: >>13454134 >>13454146 >>13454558

>Sleep: Make the Pokemon unable to move for 1-3 turns
>Poison: Makes the Pokemon take damage each turn, with the damage taken increased with each turn.
>Burn: Pokemon's attack is halved and the Pokemon takes damage (with a flat rate).
>Paralysis: Has the possibility of making a Pokemon immobile, also halves its speed.
>Freeze: Makes a Pokemon immobile, and does not have a set amount of turns for when it goes away.

I really can't tell if it is balanced or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:58:48 No.13454134 Report

Quoted By: >>13454176 >>13454266

>>13454106
I was thinking the other day, maybe poison should half defence, sleep should half special defence and freeze should half special attack....maybe not though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Aug 2013 23:59:42 No.13454146 Report

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>>13454106
>with the damage taken increased with each turn.
That's badly posioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 00:01:01 No.13454160 Report

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>>13453058
With Freeze, you can be ice type. There are more Ice types than there are pokemon with Insomnia.

Also you could run Flame Wheel, Sacred Fire, Flare Blitz, Fusion Flare, or Scald on all your pokemon to prevent it

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Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 00:02:13 No.13454176 Report

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>>13454134
>poison haves defence
>mfw Toxic Spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 00:03:06 No.13454183 Report

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>>13453873
0, then 30, then 60, then 90, then 100
4 turn maximum

I think that would be the best way

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Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 00:03:40 No.13454191 Report

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>>13454176
I know that feel

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Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 00:09:23 No.13454266 Report

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>>13454134
>freeze should half special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 00:32:17 No.13454558 Report

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>>13454106
More like
>Sleep: Makes the Pokemon unable to move from 1 to 5 turns, halves Sp.Def.
>Poison: Halves Sp. Attack, fixed damage every turn
>Toxic: Increases damage, however ups attack and sp.attack by one stage. The damage done by the first turn of Toxic is higher than before however.
>Burn: Same thing as before
>Paralysis: Same thing as before
>Freeze: Every Fire attack and Scald thaws it, decreases Defense, Can go from 2 turns to forever. 30% chance to thaw when switching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2013 01:15:24 No.13455181 Report

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Hey guys, what if
>While frozen, pokemon can use Rollout with greater power but less accuracy
>Using moves like Bulk Up, Growth, Shell Smash, etc. end the frozen status, but don't have their usual effect
>A frozen pokemon hit with a punching move/Rock Smash has a chance to no longer be frozen, but take bonus damage

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