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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:03:21 No.13491559 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13491647 >>13491652 >>13492026 >>13492647 >>13493592

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLo0Fz_9f8Q

>Weather animation now plays throughout the entire battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:04:17 No.13491568 Report

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sure beats
>rain continues to fall

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:06:50 No.13491595 Report

Quoted By: >>13491652 >>13492017 >>13492073 >>13492488 >>13492637

>Sylveon tanks a rain-boosted STAB critical hit Hydro Pump

Jesus

Not a trip

Not a trip Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:10:15 No.13491647 Report

Quoted By: >>13491819 >>13492017

>>13491559
Does that mean it's safe to say Sylveon is quick and Pangoro is slow considering trick room???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:10:37 No.13491652 Report

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>>13491559

Shows rain for the entire battle? Fuck yes!

>>13491595

I know right? Sylveon may have amazing Special Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:23:12 No.13491819 Report

Quoted By: >>13491853 >>13492017

>>13491647
Yeap.

Also, nice use of that Malamar attack on the dobbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:24:13 No.13491853 Report

Quoted By: >>13491885

>>13491819
yep. Noivern pretty much wrecked shit.
Considering that his stats got reversed and trick room... does that make him a naturally speedy pokemon???

SLS10 !!M+VOCCm7uhz

SLS10 !!M+VOCCm7uhz Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:27:34 No.13491885 Report

Quoted By: >>13491901

>>13491853
His stat changes got reversed, meaning he had 2x sp. attack after that draco meteor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:28:13 No.13491901 Report

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>>13491885
OHH okay makes sense thanks for clearing that up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:36:43 No.13491978 Report

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Fairy also confirmed to be neutral to Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:37:00 No.13491986 Report

Quoted By: >>13492012

>Moon Blast looks like the logo of the Mother series
Well, I guess that makes sense, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:37:01 No.13491987 Report

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The arena battle stadium thing looks so, so much better than the one where your pokemon stands on grass patches that come out of nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:38:44 No.13492003 Report

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I'm glad they've finally done this. Also dat Power Whip animation

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:39:30 No.13492012 Report

Quoted By: >>13492032

>>13491986
hue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:39:53 No.13492017 Report

Quoted By: >>13492037 >>13492166

>>13491647
So, it's safe to say that Pangoro's base speed is anywhere between 20 and 70, then; assuming it wasn't scarfed or had something slowing it down

>>13491819
Yeah, that was terrifying.

>>13491595
Rain Boosted, STAB, Life Orb'd Critical Hit 120 Base Power attack.

130 Base Special Defense confirmed?

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:40:48 No.13492026 Report

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>>13491559
Fucking Power Whip looks so goddamn good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:41:21 No.13492032 Report

Quoted By: >>13492740

>>13492012
top hue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:41:38 No.13492034 Report

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>>13492026

Fucking this. It looks so damn intense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:41:55 No.13492037 Report

Quoted By: >>13492093

>>13492017
yep yep.
also any calculations on its attack?
remember it has iron fist too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:43:24 No.13492050 Report

Quoted By: >>13492089 >>13492093

>not a single attack missed
Looks like no one was befriending their pokemon in Pokemon-Amie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:46:04 No.13492073 Report

Quoted By: >>13492198

>>13491595

Depends. What were the EVs and all that shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:47:02 No.13492089 Report

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>>13492050
Or they all had max Amie stuff and it just cancelled each other out. Or it doesn't affect online battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:47:14 No.13492093 Report

Quoted By: >>13492156

>>13492037
I couldn't do much there; it's much easier to guess at speed than other stats

>>13492050
The entire thing was probably staged, I'd imagine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:48:34 No.13492110 Report

Quoted By: >>13492145

>Bonemerang
>Marowak just turns and a bone appears out of him
Like... come on... at least make it swing its arm or something. The other attacks had really good animation, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:49:04 No.13492115 Report

Quoted By: >>13492122 >>13492274 >>13493706 >>13504108

>hydro pump

Are you telling me froakie was using hydro pump the whole time in that other video? The one where it couldnt even kill fennekin in one hit with it?

Froakie must have abysmal special attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:50:00 No.13492122 Report

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>>13492115
Yeah, that's immediately what I thought too. This entire time I thought it was water gun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:51:41 No.13492145 Report

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>>13492110
I was hoping pokemon would have different animations for their signature moves. Oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:52:50 No.13492156 Report

Quoted By: >>13492171 >>13492220 >>13499223

>>13492093
true.
So it's safe to assume Sylveon is pretty fast, and Pangoro is slow as fuck. What about the other two: Malimar and Noivern?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:53:42 No.13492166 Report

Quoted By: >>13492208

>>13492017
>130 Sp.Def.
very likely. I'm okay with that as long as its attack stats don't suck.
What was its base HP again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:54:18 No.13492171 Report

Quoted By: >>13492206 >>13492220

>>13492156
Malimar has over 80 speed since he went before gallade, and probably shitty defence/health since he died in one hit (well, two technically.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:54:19 No.13492172 Report

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Sylveon too swole

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:56:02 No.13492187 Report

Quoted By: >>13492220

What is this, a new Stadium game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:57:15 No.13492198 Report

Quoted By: >>13492220

>>13492073
Usually in these, 0 EVs, 0 IVs, neutral nature on every pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:58:06 No.13492201 Report

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>Sableye

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:58:29 No.13492206 Report

Quoted By: >>13492223 >>13492234

>>13492171
Bonemerang hitting twice did base 100 damage (same as earthquake) which was stab from Marowak at base 80 attack. I would assume his defense is bad.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:58:33 No.13492208 Report

Quoted By: >>13492248 >>13492253

>>13492166
>95hp
>130spDef
Psuedo Confurmed
best Eeveelution already!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:59:32 No.13492220 Report

Quoted By: >>13492240 >>13492264

>>13492187
Might as well be.

>>13492156
I don't think we got to see Malimar in action.
-Turn 1
Marowak Protect
Noivern Draco Meteor on Gallade
Malimar Topsy-Turvy on Noivern
Gallade Trick Room
-Turn 2
Marowak Bonemarang Malimar for the kill.

All we can infer from that is that it's Slower than Noivern, and that Marowak is slower than it normally

>>13492171
Nope. Trick Room has Negative Priority

>>13492198
Is that the case?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 00:59:35 No.13492223 Report

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>>13492206
Im going to assume he had thick club equipped, or that is just pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:00:55 No.13492234 Report

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>>13492206
He was probably holding a Thick Club. His Politoed had a Life Orb, so items aren't out of the question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:01:11 No.13492240 Report

Quoted By: >>13492272

>>13492220
>Negative Priority

My bad, malamar does seem like a slow pokemon so it would be weird for it to have decent speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:01:55 No.13492248 Report

Quoted By: >>13492265

>>13492208
Well then fill that last one in as Speed on 110.

It's outsped Salamence, Gabite, and Politoed. All signs point towards it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:02:28 No.13492253 Report

Quoted By: >>13492265

>>13492208
I'd guess 95/60/65/110/130/65 then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:03:42 No.13492264 Report

Quoted By: >>13492272

>>13492220
>>13492220
>Might as well be.

What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:03:44 No.13492265 Report

Quoted By: >>13492274

>>13492248
>>13492253
Shit, so it's more like 95/60/65/65/130/110 then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:04:31 No.13492272 Report

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>>13492240
I agree with Malimar looking like it should be slow.

With Marowak at 45 Base speed, we know it would normally be faster than that; but slower than Noivern still.

If I recall, Gallade went before Noivern during Trick Room, so Noivern should be above 80 Base Speed?

>>13492264
I mean the way it looks, it's as nice as any of the Stadium games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:04:44 No.13492274 Report

Quoted By: >>13492295

>>13492265
>>13492115

Looks like it doesn't necessarily have 130 Sp.Def. after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:05:08 No.13492278 Report

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Dat fucking moves animations, trick room, draco meteor, that rain... I want this game NAAAO!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:07:28 No.13492295 Report

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>>13492274
This might be relevent.

http://veekun.com/dex/gadgets/compare_pokemon?pokemon=Flareon&pokemon=Vaporeon&pokemon=Jolteon&pokemon=Espeon&pokemon=Umbreon&pokemon=Glaceon&pokemon=Leafeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:16:29 No.13492368 Report

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maybe rain got nerfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:20:20 No.13492412 Report

Quoted By: >>13492426 >>13493451

More demo footage tomorrow, this time in english. Hopefully we see some more shiny pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:21:22 No.13492426 Report

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>>13492412
You sure it won't be in german?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:26:05 No.13492474 Report

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Damn politoed is so adorable. Looks like you can control the camera too.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:27:43 No.13492488 Report

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>>13491595

That's thanks to the friendship between the trainer and Sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:34:57 No.13492570 Report

Quoted By: >>13492643 >>13495116

pangoro confirmed NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:36:13 No.13492590 Report

Quoted By: >>13492643 >>13492661

Keep in mind that Pangoro probably only attacked first in Trick room after using hammer arm to lower its speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:39:46 No.13492635 Report

Quoted By: >>13492661 >>13492670

>that Draco meteor + Topsy Turvy combo
Imagine the possibilities. V-Create, Leaf Storm, Superpower... Doubles will never be the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:39:55 No.13492637 Report

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>>13491595
Sylveon confirmed to be best wall

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:40:26 No.13492643 Report

Quoted By: >>13492655 >>13495116

>>13492570
>>13492590
>one of my favourite pokemon revealed is a fat piece of shit

Abzu

Abzu Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:40:31 No.13492647 Report

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>>13491559
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLo0Fz_9f8Q
>uses topsy turvy to make draco meteor improve stats
Oh god, malamar for best teammate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:40:50 No.13492650 Report

Quoted By: >>13492670

I need to see a triple battle. I need to see if the 3DS can take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:41:09 No.13492655 Report

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>>13492643
lets hope you don't participate in those pokeporn threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:41:21 No.13492661 Report

Quoted By: >>13495116 >>13497042

>>13492590
Underspeeding a Ferro at -1 is still pretty slow.

>>13492635
Basically, it's gonna be used with Draco Meteor if people use it all.

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:41:58 No.13492670 Report

Quoted By: >>13492687 >>13492738

>>13492635
V-Create is the one I'm excited for.
Things are going to get dumb.

>>13492650
Why couldn't it?
We've already seen Horde Battles, which are 5v1
3v3 is the same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:43:16 No.13492687 Report

Quoted By: >>13492728

>>13492670
True, but the demo was freezing a lot when sycamore sent out his pokemon, and that was only 1v1.

Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ

Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:46:37 No.13492728 Report

Quoted By: >>13492760

>>13492687
Where'd we see that at? The video I've seen looked nice and smooth, considering

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:47:21 No.13492738 Report

Quoted By: >>13492754

>>13492670
Smogon will ban it even in Singles because they is against complex banz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:47:38 No.13492740 Report

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>>13492032
>8 directional movement
>Wild monsters on the overworld

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:49:19 No.13492753 Report

Quoted By: >>13492762 >>13492946

Holy shit sylveon is a boss
>Takes a crit life orb specs in the rain hydropump likes it's nothing
>in another demo it was faster than a fucking salamence

Bow down to your fucking fairys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:49:23 No.13492754 Report

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>>13492738
Imagine if Topsy Turvey goes past Subs.
>Sashed Malimar
>Ultimate Baton Pass Chain Breaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:49:57 No.13492760 Report

Quoted By: >>13493024

>>13492728
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgAJ0MJo2f4

For example when fennekin is fighting froakie and froakie does his idle animation it freezes for a good second.

But mostly in the sycamore fight when he sends out pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:50:02 No.13492762 Report

Quoted By: >>13492793

>>13492753
what if 130 in all stats since because special fairy typu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:52:09 No.13492793 Report

Quoted By: >>13492921

>>13492762
>Slyveon
>Higher BST than Arceus

Pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:59:23 No.13492921 Report

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>>13492793
Fairys confirmed to be god killers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 01:59:57 No.13492930 Report

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>topsy turvy teams.

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elibump !ZIyqdy8k0. Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:01:16 No.13492946 Report

Quoted By: >>13493023 >>13493024 >>13493795

>>13492753
I wanna say then its got 130 SpDef, with 110 Speed or HP, with 95 in the other. Attack, Def, and SpAtk are all 60/65.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:05:43 No.13493015 Report

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Since Sylveon is pretty fast and bulky it's safe to say it has something along the lines of 95 HP, 130 Sp. Def. and 110 Speed but it's Special Attack looks too good to be something along the lines of 60 or 65 which leads me to believe that they might have changed the stat distribution with Sylveon making it severely lacking in either Attack or Defense...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:06:16 No.13493023 Report

Quoted By: >>13493064

>>13492946
I hope not. I want to be able to use it ingame. Also, it 2 Hit KO'd Politoed. It's got to have some kind of SpAtk prowess

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:06:24 No.13493024 Report

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>>13492760
Huh. Yeah, that's odd, first video I've seen it in though.

>>13492946
That seems about right. Seeing as Salamence is Base 100, it's probably going to be
95 HP, 110 Speed, 130 Special Defense, 65 Attack/Special Attack, 60 Defense
That's my guess, at least

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elibump !ZIyqdy8k0. Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:08:46 No.13493064 Report

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>>13493023
Politoed was at 80% due to the Life Orb recoil, I don't think he was hit by any other moves. If that Politoed was Max SpAtk + Speed, it could easily take that much damage off of just two moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:10:26 No.13493089 Report

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3D battles are much more fun to watch then 2d.

I tried to watch the world tournament but it was so bland to look at, maybe next year I'll be able to actually watch it and enjoy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:11:58 No.13493103 Report

Quoted By: >>13493117

That Politoed is adorable. <3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:13:01 No.13493117 Report

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>>13493103
I like how he is actually standing on two legs this time, unlike in all the other 3D games he was sitting down and doing some weird shit with his feet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:37:46 No.13493434 Report

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Is Fairy Kiss an special attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:39:28 No.13493451 Report

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>>13492412
It's in German, actually. That's where Gamescom is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:45:26 No.13493512 Report

Quoted By: >>13493709

>Pangoro confirmed for being slow as shit like every other fucking bear pokemon.
>Sylveon confirmed for being a high HP/high defense punching bag just like everyone thought Fairy types would be instead of the bulky Jolteon /vp/ was predicting.

Why can't my bros ever have some good fucking stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:51:47 No.13493592 Report

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>>13491559
is there a closer video for this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 02:53:52 No.13493609 Report

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What was with malamars entrance animation, it looked like it glitched out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:02:37 No.13493676 Report

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So ferrothorn does not float anymore? Awesome

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:03:06 No.13493680 Report

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>dat draco meteor animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:07:17 No.13493706 Report

Quoted By: >>13493729

>>13492115
Confirmed for high atk high speed

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elibump !ZIyqdy8k0. Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:07:32 No.13493709 Report

Quoted By: >>13493751 >>13493778

>>13493512
Bulky Jolteon? You mean like Glaceon was? Assuming that Sylveon follows Eeveelution stat distribution, we knew it wasn't going to have 130 SpAtk (overlaps with 2 instead of 1)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:08:05 No.13493720 Report

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>tfw can't view videos on 3ds barebones browser

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:09:12 No.13493729 Report

Quoted By: >>13493748

>>13493706
Lets hope. He has shit special defense according to the demo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:11:22 No.13493748 Report

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>>13493729
He better. It makes sense with the prediction of water/fighting though. If not gg froakie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:11:36 No.13493751 Report

Quoted By: >>13493907 >>13496966

>>13493709
This is what I meant by bulky Jolteon:

95
60
65
110
65
130

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:13:15 No.13493767 Report

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>politoed+froakie evo+toxicroak triple battle

I don't care if it's shit, Im using this crap online day one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:14:26 No.13493778 Report

Quoted By: >>13493907

>>13493709
The fuck? Glaceon isn't even remotely like Jolteon. It's a slow and bulky Espeon, if anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:17:45 No.13493795 Report

Quoted By: >>13493907

>>13492946
I'm personally hoping for 65 HP, 60 attack, 65 defense, 95 Sp. Attack, 130 sp. Defense and 110 Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:22:15 No.13493833 Report

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Is this a better video from the less replied thread we had in the 1st page?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:24:55 No.13493848 Report

Quoted By: >>13493851 >>13493859 >>13493870 >>13493892

Can we choose which types of battle we want in online battle? Like single, double, triple and rotation? Hopefully all those types of battle will continue on in XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:25:35 No.13493851 Report

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>>13493848
I wonder what's going to happen to the sims

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:26:14 No.13493859 Report

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>>13493848
Considering you can choose the music track, not letting you choose the battle style would be absolutely retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:27:11 No.13493870 Report

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>>13493848
We've seen both single and doubles multiplayer battles already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:28:41 No.13493892 Report

Quoted By: >>13493931

>>13493848

Hopefully they allow 6v6 random

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elibump !ZIyqdy8k0. Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:30:06 No.13493907 Report

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>>13493778
Glaceon is a strong special attacker which focuses on large defenses, with lower speed and HP. Though >>13493751 made more sense I suppose.
>>13493795
Politoed's Hydro Pump in rain deals 50-60% to 252/252+ Umbreon, assuming Politoed was 252 SpAtk and Modest. Even with 0 EVs and a non-boosting nature, Politoed is gonna deal 35-40%. Sylveon either has 95 HP or they went out of their way to make that Politoed suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:31:51 No.13493927 Report

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> Dat Draco Meteor
> Dat Power Whip
> Dat constant rain animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:32:17 No.13493931 Report

Quoted By: >>13494262

>>13493892
do you mean 6v6 at once? 3DS can't handle that I'm pretty sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:32:35 No.13493933 Report

Quoted By: >>13493954

More importantly though!

> Dat Bonemerang animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:35:20 No.13493954 Report

Quoted By: >>13493959

>>13493933
Are you kidding? It was almost as bad as chespins wood hammer animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:35:33 No.13493955 Report

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All these competitive jargon, all I know is that I just learned EV training and that's all good for me. Using Items? I'll learn that later. But for now, I'm interested in playing XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:36:18 No.13493959 Report

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>>13493954
I-I didn't say it was good. Maybe they will improve on that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 03:37:38 No.13493972 Report

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>dem graphics
Sylveon is a rape train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:00:25 No.13494164 Report

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That wasn't Power Whip. That looked more like a tentacle assault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:10:23 No.13494262 Report

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>>13493931
No I mean 6v6 singles on random wi-fi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:15:46 No.13494310 Report

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BASED SYLVEON

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:24:47 No.13494423 Report

Quoted By: >>13494493 >>13494736

It seems fair to assume that Fairy Kiss has a base power of 75, like all the other three draining moves. And it appears to do slightly over 30% to Politoed.

That's the upper end of base 65 in the relevant offensive stat with a boosting nature and full EVs vs a Politoed with no EV investment. Or the lower end of base 95.

So, yeah, that doesn't really narrow it down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:27:09 No.13494456 Report

Quoted By:

So if you look at the best speed you can have to underspeed a Level 100 Ferrothorn at -1 with 0 IVs or EVs, you'd have to have a speed stat of 66. Pangoro shit speed confirmed.

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:29:35 No.13494493 Report

Quoted By: >>13494521

>>13494423
We already know that Draining Kiss is Base 60; or at least it's safe to assume so

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:31:19 No.13494521 Report

Quoted By: >>13494534 >>13494736

>>13494493

Why 60? You know Giga Drain and Drain Punch got bumped up from 60 to 75 last gen, right?

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:32:07 No.13494534 Report

Quoted By:

>>13494521
I do know that; but when the move was first leaked, we were told it had 60 Base Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:46:52 No.13494736 Report

Quoted By: >>13494764

>>13494423
>>13494521
Draining Kiss is 60, and is not 75 (like Giga Drain, Drain Punch) because Draining Kiss restores 100% of the damage it does (instead of 50% like Giga Drain, Drain Punch).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:49:10 No.13494764 Report

Quoted By: >>13494977

>>13494736
[citations needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 04:58:29 No.13494900 Report

Quoted By: >>13495084 >>13495140 >>13495275 >>13495333 >>13498346

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jG0V8F0NY0
Better video if anyone needs it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:05:39 No.13494977 Report

Quoted By: >>13495058 >>13495068

>>13494764
Pokebeach leaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:14:20 No.13495058 Report

Quoted By: >>13495068

>>13494977
I did not say that it restores 100% in the leaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:14:54 No.13495068 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495058
>>13494977
That would be beyond OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:15:54 No.13495084 Report

Quoted By: >>13495124

>>13494900

So Politoed has max HP evs and takes 64 damage.

Sylveon has base 95 HP.

Draining Kiss restores HP equal to damage done, Sylveon has full HP investment - Restores 32% of its HP

Draining Kiss restores HP equal to damage done, Slyveon has no HP investment - Restores 38% of its HP

Draining Kiss restores HP equal to half damage done, Sylveon has full HP investment - Restores 16% of its HP

Draining Kiss restores HP equal to half damage done, Slyveon has no HP investment - Restores 19% of its HP

My best guess would be it's the final option.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:18:48 No.13495116 Report

Quoted By: >>13497012

>>13492570
>>13492643
>>13492661
No that can't be right.
H-he'll at least be UU right? I'll make it work, it has to work. Such a cool looking Pokemon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:19:50 No.13495124 Report

Quoted By: >>13495150 >>13495175

>>13495084
I'm pretty sure all of the Pokémon they used have no investment, 0 IVs, and neutral natures.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:21:54 No.13495140 Report

Quoted By:

>>13494900

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:22:24 No.13495146 Report

Quoted By: >>13495159

>dem fainting animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:22:49 No.13495150 Report

Quoted By: >>13495166

>>13495124

Politoed has 197 HP. That's only possible with Max IVs and EVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:23:45 No.13495159 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495146

>no sinking through the floor
0/10 preorder cancelled

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:24:38 No.13495166 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495150
Oh shit. Then I hope Sylveon has max investment in bulk. I really want it to have at least 95 SpAttack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:25:04 No.13495172 Report

Quoted By: >>13495309

Is Pangoro holding Life Orb? Because it managed to get damage twice (one from Iron Barbs, and then one from something else)

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:25:15 No.13495175 Report

Quoted By: >>13495286 >>13495318

>>13495124
Any source, or reference for this at all?
I'm legitimately curious

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:26:29 No.13495191 Report

Quoted By:

Pangoro is not slower than Ferrothorn, since Ferrothorn moves first over Pangoro in Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:35:38 No.13495275 Report

Quoted By:

>>13494900
Thanks. The in-game pokemon models are looking great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:36:49 No.13495286 Report

Quoted By: >>13495307

>>13495175
I don't think what he said is true...Politoed has 197 HP and that's the maximum it can have at lv50 in gen 5. Unless they changed stats calculation then that Politoed has 31 HP IVs.

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:38:36 No.13495307 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495286
That's what I'm thinking as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:38:41 No.13495309 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495172
I think Ferrothorn had Rocky Helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:38:49 No.13495311 Report

Quoted By: >>13495326 >>13495346

Shit. Either I've gone wrong somewhere or Sylveon has Multiscale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:39:27 No.13495318 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495175
They tend to do that in trailers and whatnot, but another anon proved me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:39:52 No.13495326 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495311
It has Cute Charm
.......but that doesn't mean it couldn't have another ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:41:04 No.13495333 Report

Quoted By:

>>13494900
Thanks. The in-game pokemon models are looking great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:42:47 No.13495346 Report

Quoted By: >>13495412 >>13495445

>>13495311

I was confused too.
first a crit brings him to half
next turn a regular hit does 3/4ths
how else other than multiscale? new ability maybe?
fairy dust

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:48:22 No.13495412 Report

Quoted By: >>13495425

>>13495346
Draining Kiss didn't fully restore Sylveon; I feel like the second hydro pump did about 40-50%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:49:47 No.13495425 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495412
But the first was a crit and the second wasn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 05:52:08 No.13495445 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495346
The second hydro pump does around 1/4. Check your fractions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:00:54 No.13495511 Report

Quoted By:

To my eyes it looks like Sylveon takes 55%. Then it heals 20%. Then it takes 35%.

However, if it really does have no HP investment, then base 130 Sp.Def, 252 EVs, 31 IVs, boosting nature, against a Politoed with 0 Sp.Atk IVs and EVs and a hindering nature should still take a minimum of 69.41% from a Life Orb Crit Rain Hydro Pump.

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:12:51 No.13495599 Report

Quoted By: >>13495683 >>13495708 >>13496805

Been playing around with the Damage Calculator on Showdown
I've gotten

252+ SpA Life Orb Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD (custom) in rain: 105-125 (51.98 - 61.88%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

That was with "Sylveon" set to Normal Type, assuming neutral interaction with Water; And running 130 SpDef , 95 HP; Both with 31 IV and 252 EV; and Calm Natured

Have I missed something; or are there things going on here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:23:43 No.13495683 Report

Quoted By: >>13495698

>>13495599
could sylveon have had an item?

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:25:27 No.13495698 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495683
As Far as I know the only defense boosting items are Eviolite, which I don't even want to consider; and Berries that trigger when you take a specific kind of damage. But far as I know, you have to be weak to that for them to trigger.
And it's not a new defensive choice item, as Sylveon uses different attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:26:11 No.13495708 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495599

All these calculations are a bit meaningless when we don't know what they're changing and adding. Crit damage scales with Speed? New defensive items to match the 10%/20%/30%/50% offensive items? We've no idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:27:11 No.13496765 Report

Quoted By: >>13496939

Guys, maybe they nerfed rain and it no longer boosts water type attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:35:21 No.13496805 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495599
I doubt demo pokes have any evo and anything else than neutral nature, though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:37:50 No.13496823 Report

Quoted By: >>13496835 >>13496842 >>13496899 >>13496907 >>13496933 >>13497065 >>13499245

I just ran a calc and I'm confused as balls.
Umbreon has 95 HP and 130 Sp.Def with a water neutrality. assuming everything is 0 IV/0 EV/neutral nature Lv.50, there's no way sylveon should've been able to take that crit at half HP. Even with 130 HP/110 Sp.Def or 110 HP/130 Sp.Def I don't think it would be taking that much.
Either:
>a: things were EV'd (or at least sylveon was)
>b: rain was nerfed
>c:sylveon has some ability that prevents the rain boost or crit boost (I believe it was confirmed for having Cute Charm, but I guess it could be a dream world ability, though I don't think they would do that just after revealing it's ability)

what do you guys think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:39:51 No.13496835 Report

Quoted By: >>13496841

>>13496823
it could also have some kind of multi-scale-esque ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:40:51 No.13496841 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496835
Its ability is confirmed to be Cute Charm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:40:52 No.13496842 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496823
So Sylveon is a Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:42:15 No.13496852 Report

Quoted By: >>13496913

Wait are these ingame graphics? How does it look so great if the 3ds is only 240P?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:53:39 No.13496899 Report

Quoted By: >>13496910

>>13496823
whart if cute charm was boosted to also reduce damages made by pokes of the other sex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:55:20 No.13496907 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496823
double battle damage reduction applied to even moves that don't hit multiple targets?
politoed having a nature reducing its spe attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:55:50 No.13496910 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496899
Does not make sense, the second hydro pump seemed to deal more damage than it should have, only ability that makes sense is multiscale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:56:42 No.13496913 Report

Quoted By: >>13496932

>>13496852
u wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:01:11 No.13496932 Report

Quoted By: >>13499162

>>13496913
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:01:19 No.13496933 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496823
I'd go with they're EV'd, personally

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:04:22 No.13496939 Report

Quoted By: >>13496991 >>13497048

>>13496765

This is what I'm leaning towards for now.

Rain no longer increases the damage of water attacks, Politoed had no Sp.Atk EVs.

Fits better than anything else I can come up with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:13:12 No.13496966 Report

Quoted By:

>>13493751
>bulky
>65 in both defenses
wot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:19:29 No.13496991 Report

Quoted By: >>13497027

>>13496939
Well if it has the same HP and Spd as Umbreon then it would still do 75ish%. Something is wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:24:57 No.13497012 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495116
Speed isn't everything, bro. It can tank pretty well it looks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:27:26 No.13497027 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496991

>0 SpA Life Orb Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD (custom) on a critical hit: 187-222 (56.49 - 67.06%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Life Orb Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD (custom): 94-110 (28.39 - 33.23%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Politoed is Serious, Sylveon is Calm with 95HP, 130Sp.Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:31:03 No.13497042 Report

Quoted By: >>13497064

>>13492661
>Not using Topsy Turvy in conjunction with defensive fighting types with Close Combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:32:24 No.13497048 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496939
That's unlikely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:39:33 No.13497064 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497042
It'd be better to use with offensive fighting types. That would let them shore up their weakness pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:40:05 No.13497065 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496823
The Politoed in that battle had 197 HP which is what it has with 31 IVs and 252 EVs. Run the calcs again with EVs/IVs in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:40:59 No.13497068 Report

Quoted By:

Topsy Turvy works on your partner pokemon!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:41:11 No.13497069 Report

Quoted By: >>13497111 >>13497116 >>13497118

Man, Topsy Turvy is going to be crazy in doubles.

Mega Lucario + Adaptability + Topsy Turvy + Close Combat = Wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:50:53 No.13497111 Report

Quoted By: >>13497116

>>13497069

it can be used as a sweep killer too. any mon that has stacked a few dances or any other stat boosting move will get fucked if it gets TT'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:51:58 No.13497116 Report

Quoted By: >>13497122 >>13497133

>>13497069
>>13497111
Based on the battle, though, it seemed frail as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:52:30 No.13497118 Report

Quoted By: >>13497124

>>13497069
Or simply Choice Specs Latios

>Draco Meteor + Choice Specs + Modest Nature + Topsy Turvy = Unlimited Death works

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:53:48 No.13497122 Report

Quoted By: >>13497126

>>13497116
To be fair, Marowak is a strong fucker with Thick Club

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:54:36 No.13497124 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497118
Choice users aren't common in doubles. Probably Dragon Gem Latios. Potential for better coverage for even more lethality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:55:09 No.13497126 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497122
I know, but it couldn't even take one hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:55:54 No.13497129 Report

Quoted By: >>13497140

Noivern or whatever it's called impressed me more than I thought it would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:56:33 No.13497133 Report

Quoted By: >>13497145

>>13497116
>seemed frail as hell

how?

also we have yet to see if it effects screens

if it does you can guerentee it being used in OU all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:58:07 No.13497140 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497129

same here

that Draco meteor TT boosted Boomburst was sexy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:59:04 No.13497145 Report

Quoted By: >>13497155 >>13497157 >>13497182

>>13497133
It got OHKO'd by Marowak. I know Marowak is strong as hell, but you would think it could live at least one hit, especially since it's a support set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:01:06 No.13497155 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497145

it did live one hit. just not two

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:01:24 No.13497157 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497145

If its EVs were invested elsewhere, its stats could be as good as 95 base HP, 90 base def.

But, yeah, it's probably about as durable as a paper bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:06:27 No.13497182 Report

Quoted By: >>13497185

>>13497145

Thick Club boosted STAB SE Bonemerang can most likely only be walled by very durable walls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:07:25 No.13497185 Report

Quoted By: >>13497189

>>13497182
It wasn't super effective...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:09:29 No.13497189 Report

Quoted By: >>13497206 >>13497208 >>13497239

>>13497185

You dumb? The squid bitch is Water/Poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:11:11 No.13497206 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497189
He's Dark/Psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:11:32 No.13497208 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497189
Psychic/Dark
And Bonemerang has as much total BP as Earthquake. So imagine a STAB EQ coming from that kind of Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:20:01 No.13497239 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497189
>mfw you're an enormous faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:33:02 No.13497301 Report

Quoted By:

Aw man, psycho cutter looks different than I thought it would look

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 12:55:15 No.13497650 Report

Quoted By:

>dat bonemrang animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 16:45:49 No.13498346 Report

Quoted By: >>13499079 >>13499132

>>13494900

Requesting GIF of the dramatic close-up on Politoed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:04:29 No.13499079 Report

Quoted By: >>13499114 >>13499132

>>13498346
>>13498346
>>13498346

THIS SO MUCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:08:32 No.13499114 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499079
I think it was at 6:35

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:11:07 No.13499132 Report

Quoted By:

>>13498346
>>13499079
it's here >>13496097

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:14:25 No.13499162 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496932
¡

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:23:25 No.13499223 Report

Quoted By:

>>13492156
But in another demo, Sylveon was outsped by a Gabite of the same level, so we know it's slower than base 82, which means its speed is either 65 or 60. Also, since it took the hydro pump surprisingly well, I think it's safe to say its sp. def is its 130 stat. We know it was 95 base hp, moonblast actually did damage, and given that all eeveelutions have 65 base attack, I think it's a fairly safe assumption that it's stat distribution is 95/65/60/110/130/65

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:27:38 No.13499245 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496823
What if Drizzle no longer boosts the power of water moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 01:05:48 No.13504071 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 01:08:38 No.13504108 Report

Quoted By:

>>13492115
Fighting type confirmed

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