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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:18:39 No.13495636 View View Reply Original Report

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welp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:19:53 No.13495646 Report

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knight chespin here I come!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:21:33 No.13495663 Report

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>>13495636
This makes me happy.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:21:58 No.13495666 Report

Quoted By: >>13495684 >>13495690 >>13495710

>Underhanded assassin ninja
>Fighting type
>Valiant Chestnut Knight
>Dark type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:22:41 No.13495676 Report

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>>13495636
And it uses foam shurikens

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:23:49 No.13495684 Report

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>>13495666

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:24:20 No.13495690 Report

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>>13495666
Satan confirms

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:24:21 No.13495691 Report

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Mage Fennekin incoming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:26:02 No.13495703 Report

Quoted By: >>13495812 >>13495829 >>13495887 >>13497465 >>13500241 >>13501031 >>13509732

>Fennekin mage
>Chespin Knight
>Froakie Ninja
we final fantasy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:26:22 No.13495710 Report

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>>13495666

Ninjas aren't "evil" though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:31:28 No.13495754 Report

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>>13495710
Yet they really on deception and are usually cunning which is better suited for Dark type than fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:32:49 No.13495770 Report

Quoted By: >>13495825 >>13495830 >>13495832 >>13495852 >>13498694

>>13495710
They were spies, assassins, and saboteurs.
Knights were chivalrous warriors who fought directly in battle.
How are ninjas more Fighting than Dark

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:38:03 No.13495812 Report

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>>13495703
Fire/Psychic or Fairy
Grass/Fighting
Water/Dark
I'm perfectly fine with this and am eager to see it happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:39:43 No.13495825 Report

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>>13495770

How is a zebra electric

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:40:11 No.13495829 Report

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>>13495703
I love it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:40:34 No.13495830 Report

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>>13495770
Some knights abused their stance in the social hierarchy for their own gain, forsaking the code of chivalry.

Ninjutsu and such began from farmers defending themselves from dishonorable samurai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:40:55 No.13495832 Report

Quoted By: >>13495922 >>13495932

>>13495770

But we've had multiple ninja Pokemon that weren't Dark. Why would this be any different?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:42:43 No.13495843 Report

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Froakie is gonna be an improved Sharpedo.
Pretty hype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:42:47 No.13495844 Report

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>>13495825
Well lighting in a lot of popular media is often scene as white so it plays with the strips of a zebra. Though what you are comparing is apples and oranges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:42:55 No.13495846 Report

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>>13495830
>Froakie becomes Fighting type in order to defend itself from the dishonorable Dark-type Knight that is Chespin

shit

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:43:30 No.13495852 Report

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>>13495770
Water/Fighting Froakie Evo focuses more on the technique and disciplinary behind the idea of Ninja

Grass/Dark Chespin evo calls back to Knights that did as their kingdom commanded, no matter what that command was

Alternatively, what >>13495830 suggested

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:45:15 No.13495868 Report

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Frokki will bee wader/fighting typ
Chespen will bee grass/dark typ
And Fenikin will bee fyre/psykic typ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:46:44 No.13495878 Report

Quoted By: >>13495907

Personally I think the starters should evolve into a double triangle rather than a reverse triangle. The whole point of the rival picking the stronger starter is to make you catch other Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:47:12 No.13495887 Report

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>>13495703
All of my want

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:49:03 No.13495907 Report

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>>13495878
Triangles don't matter since all Pokemon can learn a move that covers their weakness/weaknesses.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:51:26 No.13495922 Report

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>>13495830
>>13495852
Given the whole "Kalos is France" thing and the huge influence France had on the concept of chivalry and the popular concept of a knight, mainly through King Arthur's tales, it's pretty unlikely the starter Pokemon based on a knight is going to be a huge dick
Also, [citation needed]. Samurai were dicks but ninja techniques were developed by professional killers, hence their use by assassins to better infiltrate and kill things.

>>13495832
Because we know there's going to be a Psychic/Fighting/Dark trio.
Ninjask and Accelgor focus on the "go fast" aspect, not the assassin aspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:52:51 No.13495932 Report

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>>13495832
The Pokemon are based on ninjas aesthetically, not conceptually.

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Phyrro 1765 3505 7271 !wJaxeehRtQ Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:55:24 No.13495956 Report

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>>13495922
I'll openly admit it doesn't make as much sense as having a Grass/Fighting or Grass/Steel type knight in France; but going off of all the information so far, it definitely seems the most liekly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 06:55:37 No.13495958 Report

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I'm gonna name ma nigga chespin Cecil on some real real

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:00:27 No.13496023 Report

Quoted By: >>13496046 >>13496047 >>13496050 >>13496053

I seem to be missing how Froakie being confirmed a ninja makes Chespin a knight in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:02:58 No.13496046 Report

Quoted By: >>13496359

>>13496023
http://pokejungle.net/2013/07/19/kalos-starters-evolutions-come-to-light/
Chespin evolves into a knight with armor made out of his chestnut shell
Froakie evolves into a ninja boss

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Abzu Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:03:08 No.13496047 Report

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>>13496023
inb4 chespins a pirate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:03:12 No.13496050 Report

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>>13496023
Chespinplebs are weird, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:03:43 No.13496053 Report

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>>13496023
The trademarked names and the emphasis on its armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:08:02 No.13496095 Report

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>>13495830
And yet ninja in pop culture is about deception (which fits Dark).

I honestly think Chespin is Steel than Fighting or Dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:09:38 No.13496114 Report

Quoted By: >>13496150 >>13496152

>>13496095
Except most of society today has had their perception skewed by naruto and think it's more about going fast and using big awesome attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:13:09 No.13496150 Report

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>>13496114
And yet even Naruto admits about using deception and trickery (multiple clones, replacement, illusion etc.)

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:13:16 No.13496152 Report

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>>13496114
>Most of society
Spend less time on /a/

>>13496095
>Grass/Steel with huge bulk and attack
>Gets Chlorophyll when it Mega Evolves
Holy shit it's Excadrill 2: Uber Boogaloo
please Gamefreak I will buy 5 copies

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:15:20 No.13496164 Report

Quoted By: >>13499443 >>13500247

>>13495710
Neither are a lot of dark types, they just rely on underhanded and dirty maneuvers to gain an upper hand.

Pick related, Fighting/Dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:17:57 No.13496182 Report

Quoted By: >>13496200 >>13496216

>>13496152
My cousin works at a furniture store moving shit, played soccer, basketball, and football all his life, goes out partying every night and gets drunk/laid, and spends his afternoons/mornings watching Naruto and One Piece

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:20:21 No.13496200 Report

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>>13496182

Your cousin isn't "most of society".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:22:05 No.13496216 Report

Quoted By: >>13497080

>>13496182
That's a nice story but it doesn't change that if I do a Google search of "ninja" I get the stereotypical guy in full black showing only his eyes duo wielding katanas, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and a ninja MLP original character long before I see any Naruto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:40:06 No.13496339 Report

Quoted By: >>13496359

>chespin is suddenly a knight
source? I haven't been in the know lately

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:44:19 No.13496359 Report

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>>13496339
see >>13496046

There's a name in that trademarked list that suggests chestnut and knight connotations. That same list also leaked Dedenne and Bunnelby's Japanese names before they were even announced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 07:52:52 No.13496395 Report

Quoted By: >>13497158 >>13497259

Chespin
Chesquire
Chesknight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:20:47 No.13496494 Report

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>>13496359
The post is gone. Source again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:27:25 No.13496535 Report

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>>13496494
http://pokejungle.net/2013/07/19/kalos-starters-evolutions-come-to-light/

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:40:18 No.13496584 Report

Quoted By: >>13496587 >>13496606

>>13496535
>Ice Wolf is not real

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:40:57 No.13496587 Report

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>>13496584
>wanting ice wolf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:41:50 No.13496593 Report

Quoted By: >>13496599 >>13496606

>>13496587
>Not wanting a proper Wolf Pokémon in the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:43:15 No.13496599 Report

Quoted By: >>13496621

>>13496593
>wanting any specific animal represented as a pokemon and not just being content with what you've got

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:43:48 No.13496606 Report

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>>13496584
>>13496593
>capitalizing greentext

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:45:36 No.13496621 Report

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>>13496599
>being a bitch with no desires

You're the kind of guy that would suck GF's dick if they ever made a literal turd pokémon with a pokédex description that goes >This used to be regular Bouffalant turd until X-RAYS FROM DA MOON made ir alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:48:15 No.13496631 Report

Quoted By: >>13496633

>>13496621
>suggesting a turd pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:49:12 No.13496633 Report

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>>13496631
>not being content with the possibility of a turd pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:50:43 No.13496640 Report

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>>13495636

Frog Ninja - Water/Dark

Pirate Squirrel - Grass/Fighting

Uhh...

Alien Fox - Fire/Psychic

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 08:53:04 No.13496644 Report

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>>13496640
Pokébeach rumours have been rigth so far so it's more Grass/Dark, Water/fighting and Fire/Psychic

>yfw Chespin is a Dark Knight
>yfw Chespin is Batman

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:05:10 No.13496692 Report

Quoted By: >>13496695

>>13496644

>His natural armor turns out to be combat-armor

Chespin: Tear resistant?
Professor Sycamore: This sucker will stop a metal claw.
Chespin: Fireproof?
Professor Sycamore: Anything but prolonged exposure.
Chespin: Why didn't they put it into production?
Professor Sycamore: Bean counters didn't think a grass type's life was worth three hundred thousand Pokedollars. So, what's your interest in it, Chespin?
Chespin: I wanna borrow it. For, uh, spelunking.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:06:58 No.13496695 Report

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>>13496692

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:08:49 No.13496703 Report

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>>13496640
>no mention of robots
Not my popular theme.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:13:27 No.13496727 Report

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>>13496644
>Chespin is a Dark Knight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:28:10 No.13496771 Report

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>>13495636
That's it. My starter is a ninja. Thanks OP.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:35:53 No.13496808 Report

Quoted By: >>13497117 >>13497355

>The Unova starters were all based around Japanese, European and Chinese myths, as such it’s possible to interpret Froakie as a ninja (Japanese origin), Chespin as a knight (European origin), and Fennekin as a huli jing from China.

Well, cool. We Naruto now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:38:46 No.13496830 Report

Quoted By: >>13496911

How do we "know" Froakie will be water fighting and Fennekin will be Fire/Psychic? The same way we "knew" Tepig wouldn't be fire/fighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 09:55:51 No.13496911 Report

Quoted By: >>13497218

>>13496830
Pokébeach rumours said that Chespin would become Grass/dark, Froakie would becoe Water/Fighting and Fennekinw ould become Fire/Psychic

The guy predicted a bunh of stuff right (Like Pancham's english name, as well as the typing and english name of his evolution, Malamar, Sky Battles, the name of the new professor etc.) so it's fair to assume that the typings are a fair shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:13:33 No.13496968 Report

Quoted By: >>13496979 >>13500291

If the rumors are true then any starter is able to counter any starter?

Fire/Psychic
Grass/Dark
Water/Fighting

Fire>Grass>Water>Fire ect...

Psychic>Fighting>Dark>Psychic ect....

What is the point of your rival having the type advantage if your starter also has the type advantage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:16:22 No.13496979 Report

Quoted By: >>13497034

>>13496968
Well, we have two rivals now, so it's an even playing field on both sides.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:28:03 No.13497034 Report

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>>13496979
>mfw my Pokemon are still dicking their asses thoroughly

Challenge mode at start, pls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:43:48 No.13497080 Report

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>>13496216
That's because of how google works, retard. Images that have ninja in its name get shown further on top. Naruto pictures will more likely have Naruto in its name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:49:47 No.13497105 Report

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>>13496621
But that already exists. It's Grimer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 10:51:58 No.13497117 Report

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>>13496808
>What is Ninetales
>Naruto invented ninetailed foxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:01:28 No.13497158 Report

Quoted By: >>13497259

>>13496395
>Holy shit, chesknight, alost as bad as talonflame
>try reading it
>it actually sounds decent, and not too big of a stretch from chestnut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:12:08 No.13497213 Report

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>>13496644
What if he was right on his earlier account and not the second "correction" (which came after Mageleif stating that they mixed false info)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:13:24 No.13497218 Report

Quoted By: >>13498276 >>13498352 >>13500145

>>13496911
No he got some right, he got some wrong, and he got some scrambled.

For instance, Patrice isn't "the" professor but Sycamore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:26:23 No.13497259 Report

Quoted By: >>13501365

>>13497158
>>13496395
it would have to be written as Chesnight since leaving that k in there is awkward. but then people would think it's night like "night time" rather than "knight," which would be annoying and turn into hat vs hair all over again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:44:54 No.13497353 Report

Quoted By: >>13501268

>>13495710
But I thought ninjas referenced to poison type.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:45:31 No.13497355 Report

Quoted By: >>13497361

>>13496808
>ninjas and knights
>myths

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:47:24 No.13497361 Report

Quoted By: >>13497375 >>13497389 >>13497407 >>13497414 >>13499428

>>13497355
When was the last time you ever saw a real life knight or ninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:49:42 No.13497375 Report

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>>13497361
The era of Feudal Japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:52:02 No.13497389 Report

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>>13497361
People get knighted all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:55:07 No.13497407 Report

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>>13497361
Ninja who were before being romanticized into being mystical were usually farmers and other poor folk.
Knight the medival era and we still knight people to this day.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:56:49 No.13497414 Report

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>>13497361

>I've never seen a knight or ninja before therefore they never existed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 11:59:43 No.13497426 Report

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I'm LOVING Froakie and Chespin. Might use Fennekin too, just for the heck of it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 12:02:12 No.13497437 Report

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Are we going through a medieval theme with the Starters this time around? Yes, I was generalizing there to include Froakie (obviously a Koga-ryu practitioner lel). This is interesting!

SO!

Mage Fennekin it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 12:07:37 No.13497465 Report

Quoted By: >>13501335

>>13495703
I don't mind this tbh. Final Fantasy is still enjoyable to a degree. I'm getting XV btw.

Anyways! I'm using Froakie as well, but tempted to try Chespin and Fennekin. This will be difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 12:56:53 No.13497657 Report

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>>13495636
you're looking waaaay too much into it.
here's a suggestion. why don't we all just wait and see? that way you don't make fools of yourselves by stating half baked opinions and claiming them as facts ahead of time AND you'll get your answers either way

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 13:07:53 No.13497697 Report

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>Chespin will be Dark Knight
>Dark Knight

His chestnut hat becomes a cowl

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 13:08:20 No.13497698 Report

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gateway anime of the worst kind

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 13:25:06 No.13497778 Report

Quoted By: >>13498361

Frogs and toads are often associated with ninja because of the Jiraiya legend, so it's no surprise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 13:37:34 No.13497841 Report

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>Assasin Froakie
>Mage Fennekin
>Warrior Chespin
>Horde battles

Seems like they're going for a typical JRPG theme this time around

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 13:55:58 No.13497960 Report

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>>13496606
>Being This Stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 14:01:46 No.13497985 Report

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>>13496095
The Ninja in Pop Culture is Ninja Turtles and they're good guys

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Abzu Wed 21 Aug 2013 14:55:44 No.13498276 Report

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>>13497218
>Another professor is named sycamore.

Abzu

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Abzu Wed 21 Aug 2013 16:46:16 No.13498352 Report

Quoted By: >>13499233 >>13508777

>>13497218
>This much in denial.
>Another professor named Sycamore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 16:46:48 No.13498361 Report

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>>13497778
TIL that Naruto is nothing but re-interpreted folk legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 17:25:41 No.13498694 Report

Quoted By: >>13498772 >>13498817 >>13499233

>>13495770

>Knights
>chivalrous

I-I'm afraid there's more to history than what you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 17:32:27 No.13498772 Report

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>>13498694

Yeah, knights were more like modern day gangsters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 17:38:03 No.13498817 Report

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>>13498694
We're talking about the pop culture idea of knights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:25:42 No.13499233 Report

Quoted By: >>13499401

>>13498352
Froakie and Chespin's reported final types were switched in the initial leak info, so that information is already unreliable. Not everything in that leak is entirely accurate either, especially since most of it is from February. For example, Professor Patrice seems to no longer be in the game - I suspect they originally intended to have him be the Professor in your hometown, while also keeping Sycamore in Lumiose City, but decided to just have Sycamore to make it less complicated. In addition to Gogoat, you can also ride Skiddo and Rhyhorn, in locations other than Lumiose City. Mewtwo having another form isn't impossible, but it seems strange to me that one form would have gotten a huge amount of hype while the other remained completely unmentioned.

>>13498694
see
>>13495922

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:36:09 No.13499303 Report

Quoted By: >>13499336 >>13499379 >>13499535 >>13501407

There have been evil knights lol and even if pokemon aren't really evil, there have been dark knights in popular culture. Just look at Guts from Berserk and Cecil Harvey, two protagonists who aren't evil but are dark. Froakie would also fit into the good guy ninja theme that appeals to kids today like naruto and ninja turtles. I can definitely see this happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:38:06 No.13499317 Report

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if fennekin is psychic, which is obvious, chespin would have to be dark to maintain the triangle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:39:54 No.13499336 Report

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>>13499303
>>>/a/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:42:11 No.13499358 Report

Quoted By: >>13501423

Froakie's moveset seems to focus on some athletic/fast moves, such as Quick Attack, Bounce, and Acrobatics/whatever move it used on Patrat in the first trailer. Also it outsped both Fennekin and Chespin. A Water/Fighting ninja would make sense if it focuses on the fast/athletic aspect of ninja rather than the underhanded sneaky aspect. Also we already know Chespin can learn Aerial Ace, and if it's dark type there's a good chance it can also know Night Slash, which would make sense for a knight inspired Pokemon since knights mostly use slashing attacks with swords.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:45:12 No.13499379 Report

Quoted By: >>13499396 >>13500201

>>13499303
The game is based on France
There are a number of already-confirmed Pokemon with Celtic influences
I don't see why a knight Pokemon wouldn't be based on one of the Knights of the Round Table who were certainly not "dark knights"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:47:52 No.13499396 Report

Quoted By: >>13499407 >>13499429

>>13499379
But dark doesn't necessarily mean evil...so you would have a grass/fighting chespin go up againsts fire/psychic fennekin? A double effect triangle? What kind of shit is that?

Abzu

Abzu Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:48:32 No.13499401 Report

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>>13499233
>>13499233
Mega Mew is probably a secret like mew was.
I'm hoping the chespin and froakie typings are a mix up, I want more Water/dark types.

The whole patrice thing is speculation until we see him ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:49:30 No.13499407 Report

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>>13499396
The normal triangle is useless because most starters have a move that's super-effective against the starter it's weak against, so a double-triangle would emphasize it even more and return to the "diversify your team, faggot" approach

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:49:40 No.13499411 Report

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>Implying froaki is ninja
>Implying not honorable monk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:51:27 No.13499428 Report

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>>13497361
>When was the last time you ever saw a real life knight

Teyy Pratchet was knighted in 2009.

Oh and "myth" implies that they aren't real and just stories.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:51:38 No.13499429 Report

Quoted By: >>13499443

>>13499396
>Dark doesn't necessarily mean evil
A double effect triangle makes a lot more sense than a reverse triangle, the Pokemon are already supposed to counter each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:52:49 No.13499443 Report

Quoted By: >>13499473

>>13499429
see >>13496164

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:55:32 No.13499470 Report

Quoted By: >>13499492 >>13499496

>>13495922
King Arthur's tales were deliberately made to fool the masses into believing that knights were all good people while they were getting fucked in the ass by the upper hierarchy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:55:47 No.13499473 Report

Quoted By: >>13499492 >>13499532

>>13499443
>>13495922
>Given the whole "Kalos is France" thing and the huge influence France had on the concept of chivalry and the popular concept of a knight, mainly through King Arthur's tales, it's pretty unlikely the starter Pokemon based on a knight is going to be a huge dick
Dark type Pokemon use Dark type moves which revolve around dishonorable fighting tactics. It is literally the complete opposite of what would be expected of a knight, and entirely what would be expected of a ninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:57:37 No.13499492 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499470
Doesn't change that it's what pop culture knights are based off of.

>>13499473
Agreed, I was just pointing out that dark doesn't always mean evil, regardless of what the Japanese name is. Just underhanded. Yeah, it probably should be the ninja and not the knight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:57:48 No.13499496 Report

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>>13499470
That doesn't change the fact that in popular culture your standard knight will be a Knight In Shining Armor who protects the innocent and abides by strict rules of honor and conduct

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 18:59:44 No.13499508 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496644
>Chespin
>Batman
Disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:02:30 No.13499532 Report

Quoted By: >>13499582

>>13499473
I think you guys are coming at this from a Western point of view. To us, ninjas seem sneaky and evil and knights are the paragon of goodness because that's the culture we grew up in. In Japan, I'm sure they glorify their own traditions, and thus Ninjas are seen in a much more positive light. The reality is that neither perception is exactly "true," and you can make arguments from either side. If you think the feudal system itself was an immoral system that we've moved away from, it's pretty easy to argue that Knights themselves represent an authoritarian arm of that underlying evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:02:39 No.13499535 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499303
>lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:08:09 No.13499582 Report

Quoted By: >>13499753

>>13499532
No one is arguing that knights were chivalrous pillars of morality or that ninjas were evil super assassins in real life. Pokemon is not going to make a moral commentary on the historical accuracy of knighthood and the immoral nature of the feudal system in a children's game about catching cute monsters. The pop culture version of knights is that they are are chivalrous pillars of morality, so that's what Pokemon will use. The pop culture version of ninjas is that they're sneaky super-assassins, so that's what Pokemon will use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:08:47 No.13499588 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496644
this sears portraits like picture lol

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!XjiGR5CLPo Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:17:05 No.13499682 Report

Quoted By:

>Wahh Ninjas are dark
He'll stay a ninja for one stage and evolve into a shogun. The art of ninjutsu itself is a fighting style.

>Wahh Knights are chivalrous
Recruit -> Fencer -> High Nobility
He starts off as an eager boy and slowly becomes corrupt as he evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:24:16 No.13499753 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499582
>The pop culture version of knights is that they are are chivalrous pillars of morality, so that's what Pokemon will use. The pop culture version of ninjas is that they're sneaky super-assassins, so that's what Pokemon will use.
Yeah, but that's what the first part of my comment is about. That's the pop culture perception of Knights and Ninjas in the WEST, but I don't know if it's exactly the same in the East. Can't say I know enough about the perception of Knights, but to my mind in Eastern pop culture ninjas are as readily associated with goodness and honour as they are with evil, as in Naruto for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:26:42 No.13499770 Report

Quoted By: >>13499887

why is everyone arguing about chespin being a dark type knight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:38:20 No.13499887 Report

Quoted By: >>13500288

>>13499770
Because muh rumors

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:42:40 No.13499931 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495754
>Yet they really on deception and are usually cunning which is better suited for Dark type than fighting.
>Yet they really on
>they really on

You mean "rely"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:44:22 No.13499959 Report

Quoted By: >>13501312

>>13495812
>Fire/Fairy
>Fennekin SE on both other starters
How about no?
And for the love of god will you faggots quit trying to make every single goddamn thing Fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:52:36 No.13500098 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495907
This. Never did understand why people complained about the Sinnoh starters being a reverse triangle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:56:57 No.13500145 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497218
Mage probably mixed up their names, I'll bet anything Patrice gives you the Kanto starter.

SilverHammer !hUBu45lw52

SilverHammer !hUBu45lw52 Wed 21 Aug 2013 19:58:12 No.13500157 Report

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>ninja frog

"Jiraiya" will be a good name for him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:01:41 No.13500201 Report

Quoted By: >>13500494

>>13499379
>I don't see why it wouldn't so therefore it can't
Stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:05:44 No.13500241 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495703
Muh nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:06:06 No.13500247 Report

Quoted By: >>13500325 >>13500385

>>13496164
The only Dark-types I've ever considered evil regardless of what's said are Darkrai (despite its ability supposedly acting as a defense mechanism) but mostly Spiritomb. Some like Drapion and Bisharp I don't consider evil at all; just vicious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:08:12 No.13500288 Report

Quoted By: >>13500395 >>13500423 >>13500537

>>13499887
well, I know it was a rumor and all, but isnt it being drak type ok? Even if it is a knight, no one said it wasnt a dark knight. And plus, i think chespins char is dope. It starts out this happy go luck lil nigga, then realizes the worlds a messed up place, and become dark . So dope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:08:16 No.13500291 Report

Quoted By:

>>13496968
>as if Barry still couldn't kick your ass with his Torterra despite your Empoleon having Ice Beam at hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:11:18 No.13500325 Report

Quoted By: >>13500531

>>13500247
>Darkrai
>evil
No. Misunderstood, yes, but evil no. The movie and dex entries back this up. If some incarnation of him is evil, that's just that particular darkrai. The pokemon itself tho is just misunderstood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:14:49 No.13500385 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500247
Spiritomb maybe, but darkrai? The only time it was bad was in mystery dungeon and even then it turned out to be good in the end. No pokemon are really evil, no matter what the name is in Japanese. They're misunderstood, and like all pokemon it's up to the trainerZ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:15:27 No.13500395 Report

Quoted By: >>13500435

>>13500288
>Having one metric shit-tonne of weaknesses
>Including 4x against Bug
>ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:17:11 No.13500423 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500288
>And plus, i think chespins char is dope. It starts out this happy go luck lil nigga, then realizes the worlds a messed up place, and become dark . So dope
No that is terribly cliche and really retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:18:11 No.13500435 Report

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>>13500395
>Implying no pokemon has ever had a 4x weakness before
>implying it wont be able to wreck shit like it did in the demo tenfold when it evolves

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:22:50 No.13500494 Report

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>>13500201
"I don't see why" here meaning "it wouldn't make sense for it to be that way" and "it seems very unlikely"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:23:11 No.13500500 Report

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Oh boy oh boy idc what type he is I just want my glorious knight pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:24:56 No.13500531 Report

Quoted By: >>13500549 >>13500652

>>13500325
That's what women in their 40s say about serial killers too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:25:20 No.13500537 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500288
It apparently great stats are going to be wasted because Grass/Dark is a shit typing, especially if they're going to make it defensive or bulky

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:26:05 No.13500549 Report

Quoted By: >>13500565 >>13500617

>>13500531
Except they don't. Enjoy your aspergers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:26:09 No.13500550 Report

Quoted By: >>13500563 >>13500568 >>13500576

>Fire/Psychic
>Water/Fight
>Grass/Dark

Each starter would have an attribute super effective against both others...fully balanced starters!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:27:14 No.13500563 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500550
>sinnoh starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:27:24 No.13500565 Report

Quoted By: >>13500610

>>13500549
You do know that there's a ridiculous amount of middle aged single women who for some godforsaken reason have the hots for serial killers and write them love letters?
There's documentaries about that shit and everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:27:40 No.13500568 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500550
Thanks for realizing what everybody else realized months ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:28:32 No.13500576 Report

Quoted By: >>13500676 >>13500976

>>13500550
>Fully balanced
Dark is immune to Psychic, not resistant.
The reverse triangle is a pants-on-head retarded idea, what's the point of having a triangle at all if you can ignore a weakness? It just means the fastest starter will be best among them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:31:07 No.13500610 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500565
Never in all my life have I heard of that. Even if they do, it has nothing to do with people's perceptions of Darkrai. Jeffrey Dahmer fucked, killed and ate his victims. That's not misunderstood, that's fact, and he's evil. Darkrai gives people nightmares as a defense mechanism, and has been painted as a hero/misunderstood outcast in most forms of media he appears in especially his own movie. Once again, enjoy your fucking apsergers pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:31:38 No.13500617 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500549
Except they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:33:58 No.13500652 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500531
>comparing darkrai to a serial killer
I've seen some stupid shit in my day but dear God man...it's apples and oranges

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:36:15 No.13500676 Report

Quoted By:

>>13500576

Well, it depends. Water starters always had the advantage of learning Water moves and Ice moves to take our Fire and Grass respectively. The fastest Pokémon may lack the Attack or Sp.Attack necessary to OHKO the other starters.
However, if Froakie does become a Water-type Infernape, it won't really matter

>Good enough Sp. Attack to down a physically Defensive starter
>Good enough Attack to down a Sp.Defensive starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 20:58:42 No.13500976 Report

Quoted By: >>13501062

>>13500576
>Dark is immune to Psychic, not resistant.
That's why you use a fire type move on the grass type, you fucking dipshit

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:04:10 No.13501031 Report

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>>13495703
I like this idea.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:06:18 No.13501062 Report

Quoted By: >>13501183

>>13500976
If one Pokemon has an additional advantage compared to the other two then it's not "perfectly balanced," friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:14:23 No.13501183 Report

Quoted By:

>>13501062
It doesn't need to be perfectly balanced to be a reverse triangle, Psychic still hits Fighting supereffectly, Fighting still hits Dark supereffectively, Dark still hits Psychic supereffectively. If you want it to work the other way around, use their fucking primary types you mongoloid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:20:17 No.13501268 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497353
No, you just have Koga and Janine on the brain. Poison tactics were things ninja would implement to disable or hinder faoe whom they may have considered stronger than them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:23:30 No.13501312 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499959
>will you faggots quit trying to make every single goddamn thing Fairy?

This 1,000x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:24:43 No.13501335 Report

Quoted By:

>>13497465
>I'm getting XV btw.
Same here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:26:58 No.13501365 Report

Quoted By: >>13501414 >>13502850 >>13505068

>>13497259
But if it's a Dark-type then "night" would actually be befitting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:29:47 No.13501407 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499303
For a moment you made me think of Cecil Harvey from Final Fantasy IV... before he became a Paladin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:30:33 No.13501414 Report

Quoted By:

>>13501365
IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 21:31:29 No.13501423 Report

Quoted By:

>>13499358
Then it looks like Froakie will be the first Water starter that's ever been my first choice to pick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Aug 2013 23:29:23 No.13502850 Report

Quoted By:

>>13501365
Chesnight?
It's punny, the armor could be pointy, it works pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 02:27:23 No.13505046 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 02:29:01 No.13505068 Report

Quoted By:

>>13501365
I want this now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 11:26:48 No.13508750 Report

Quoted By:

made a screen for futurereference

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 11:32:04 No.13508777 Report

Quoted By:

>>13498352
Link please and want Hoenn starters not kanto starters. Shit GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 14:28:11 No.13509724 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495676
or bubble smoke bombs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Aug 2013 14:29:36 No.13509732 Report

Quoted By:

>>13495703
because only FF has mages, knights, and ninja

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