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Double Battles

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:49:41 No.13552057 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13552082 >>13553311 >>13554581

Why aren't double battles more popular than singles?
Is it a balance issue?
What do you think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:52:21 No.13552082 Report

Quoted By: >>13553016

>>13552057
I think I need to pee, I'll be right back..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:53:46 No.13552093 Report

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>Is it a balance issue?
3v3 is more balanced than 6v6, but 6v6 is popular
doesn't have to do with balance, people just don't like the format that much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:53:48 No.13552095 Report

Quoted By: >>13553158 >>13553909

Almost zero focus in-game, and when there are trainers in double battles it's almost always gimmick pair Pokemon or weak unevolved Pokemon.

Now Rotation Battles, those are fun. I hope they remember to keep it in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:54:04 No.13552098 Report

Quoted By: >>13553576

The majority of battles encountered ingame are single battles. Double battles involve different strategies, and a lot of people prefer to stick with what they've had the most experience with than learn something new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 06:58:41 No.13552123 Report

Quoted By: >>13553049

Thanks for the replies. I was just wondering since I saw my first VGC tournaments this year and was wondering why the hell they were double battling. Did some research and watched all the previous years matches and got intrigued on the subject.
Really wish I saw more of them. They just seem more interesting to me than singles.
But that's just one noobs opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 09:54:19 No.13553016 Report

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>>13552082
Done yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:00:19 No.13553049 Report

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>>13552123
I'm a VGC veteran, and doubles have always been far more interesting to me. It requires more synergy between team members, ideally so that every member of your team functions well alongside every other member, and there are loads of gimmicky strategies that become viable in doubles. By comparison, singles is largely about making sure your team has a counter for everything that other members struggle with, besides a few themes like weather or baton passing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:02:30 No.13553058 Report

Quoted By: >>13553084

I think VGC format is doubles because the abttles are faster.

I mean, it would be bad if two faggots were stalling each other for hours in a tournment

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:05:47 No.13553064 Report

Quoted By: >>13553103

almost non-existant while playing through the games and its poor popularity makes it less competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:12:36 No.13553084 Report

Quoted By: >>13553137

>>13553058
You can still stall in doubles.
SkarmBliss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:16:37 No.13553103 Report

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>>13553064
>games and its poor popularity makes it less competitive
too bad cause tons of pokes ends up in never Used solely because they are made to shine in double.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:29:47 No.13553137 Report

Quoted By: >>13553204

>>13553084
The physical attacker attacks Blissey
The special attacker attacks Skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:36:00 No.13553149 Report

Quoted By: >>13553232

I've been playing with the Smogon formats for several years now, and I'm actually a little interested in having a go at VGC, does anyone have any decent cookie cutter team, so I can sort of get my feet wet in showdown?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:39:33 No.13553158 Report

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>>13552095
>Now Rotation Battles, those are fun. I hope they remember to keep it in XY

This so much. I didn't like when when I started White but during the World Tournament in White 2 I had so much fun with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:53:24 No.13553204 Report

Quoted By: >>13553215

>>13553137
>What is prediction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:56:13 No.13553215 Report

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>>13553204
He's saying that they have definate checks, counters even. Meaning that stalling isn't just that easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:59:18 No.13553230 Report

Quoted By: >>13553655 >>13554255

I had lots of fun with double battles in Emerald but then the games after has much less and changed the effects of moves. Such as earthquake and surf hitting everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 10:59:27 No.13553232 Report

Quoted By: >>13553237

>>13553149
Something incredibly standard and boring I whipped up in a few moments:

Cresselia (F) @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Psyshock
- Trick Room
- Helping Hand
- Ice Beam

Hitmontop (M) @ Fighting Gem
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Fake Out
- Sucker Punch
- Protect

Tyranitar @ Chople Berry
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Crunch
- Rock Slide
- Low Kick
- Protect

Gastrodon @ Rindo Berry
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Protect

Garchomp @ Focus Sash
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Protect

Thundurus (M) @ Electric Gem
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Taunt

Based mostly around what was popular a year or so ago. Hitmontop and Garchomp aren't nearly as popular any more, but that might work to your advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 11:00:55 No.13553237 Report

Quoted By: >>13553255

>>13553232
Thanks, anything I need to keep in mind when using it? (threats, specific synergy?) This format is 100% alien to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 11:06:25 No.13553255 Report

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>>13553237
If in doubt, lead with Hitmontop, and switch it around a lot. Repeated Fake Outs and Intimidates are useful.
Gastrodon is a rain counter, but you'll still probably struggle with Politoed+Kingdra. Thundurus can help a little with that; sub to weaken the Draco Meteor, then paralyse it or something
Try to plan out what your first turn will be. Fake Out a threat while Cresselia sets up Trick Room, or Earthquake with Garchomp alongside Thundurus or Cresselia, who's immune, or something like that. Helping Hand + Earthquake will probably be nice.

There are loads of gimmicky strategies you might come up against, like Divecats (Which I guess you can just fake out until they die?), WhimsiRakion (prankster taunt the fluffball) and stuff, which you just need to get used to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 11:15:55 No.13553281 Report

Quoted By: >>13553670 >>13553843

For the same reason people watch single tennis matches and not doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 11:22:24 No.13553311 Report

Quoted By: >>13553508 >>13553525

>>13552057
that pic... I think I missed that battle
any link? can't find it anywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 11:36:29 No.13553363 Report

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I prefer the single battles honestly because they are easier, singles is so much more casual its ridiculous.
doubles is a completely different game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 12:10:02 No.13553508 Report

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>>13553311
never mind, found it
here's the link for who may be interested
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vXA8BnlqX8#t=31
polite sage to avoid bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 12:14:21 No.13553525 Report

Quoted By:

>>13553311
Sorry I got it off google searching "double battle," don't have the link myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 12:25:38 No.13553576 Report

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>>13552098
Pretty much this.

Another reason people prefer singles is because they are popular already and it's much easier to find someone to play against than in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 12:32:52 No.13553622 Report

Quoted By: >>13553945

because smogonfaggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 12:37:14 No.13553655 Report

Quoted By:

>>13553230
Earthquake always did hit everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 12:39:56 No.13553670 Report

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>>13553281
Doubles are more fun and interesting to watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:03:43 No.13553832 Report

Quoted By: >>13554193 >>13554385

2 vs 2 is "popular" in that Gamefreak uses it a lot to show off.

This is because it's the standard tournament format. It is the standard tournament format because it's way faster than singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:05:08 No.13553843 Report

Quoted By:

>>13553281
To hear /fit/ girls moan for 3 and half hours?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:12:18 No.13553909 Report

Quoted By:

>>13552095
>Now Rotation Battles, those are fun

Fuck yeah, shit can get so intense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:16:42 No.13553945 Report

Quoted By: >>13553984

>>13553622

Oh look, someone talking about something they have no understanding of. I'm definitely surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:20:20 No.13553984 Report

Quoted By:

>>13553945
Oh look, an autistic faggot replying to bait. I'm definitely surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:28:03 No.13554032 Report

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I love double battles.
The best thing is when you use thunder armor on swellow, that thing becomes unstoppable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 13:53:00 No.13554193 Report

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>>13553832

It'd be nice if there were more in-game doubles battles to get you used to that, then. Hell, what if they had "doubles mode"? Every trainer battle is a doubles battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 14:01:43 No.13554255 Report

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>>13553230
Yeah but Surf hitting everyone sucks. Unless your partner Pokemon has Water Absorb/Storm Drain then it's probably going to get knocked out by Starmie or whatever.

At least Earthquake makes sense to hit everyone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 14:14:50 No.13554367 Report

Quoted By: >>13554414

Ever played double rock paper scissors? It just doesn't work out too well. People have designed 3-way, 4-way, even 6-way Chess, but there's a myriad of errors that just fuck it up. Pokemon was meant to be one on one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 14:16:45 No.13554385 Report

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>>13553832
It is faster than 6 on 6 singles, but GBU singles (team preview, bring 3 choose 6) takes just about as long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 14:19:36 No.13554414 Report

Quoted By: >>13556473

>>13554367
What sort of errors happen in doubles Pokémon? A wider array of moves being viable? More complex strategies emerging? Outrage sweep being less overpowered?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 14:41:40 No.13554581 Report

Quoted By: >>13556536

>>13552057
It's because people in the competitive community don't like new shit. That's why they always ban things that deviate from the previous generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 18:29:04 No.13556473 Report

Quoted By: >>13556481

>>13554414
Shit like Beat Up + Justified

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 18:29:58 No.13556481 Report

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>>13556473
That's actually a neat usage of game mechanics imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2013 18:35:04 No.13556536 Report

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>>13554581

Probably bait, but Karenfagsactuallybelievethis.jpg

Things different from prior gens that were never banned:
Special split
Held items
Natures
Abilities
Weather
Formes
Etc.

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