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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:19:34 No.13614462 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13614491 >>13615897 >>13615970 >>13616432

>shift gear metagross
>shell smash salamence
>contrary hydreigon

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:22:40 No.13614485 Report

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Simple volcarona

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:24:22 No.13614489 Report

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>Reckless Slaking
>Magic Bounce Fennekin Final Stage
>Sheer Force Infernape

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:24:31 No.13614491 Report

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>>13614462
>contrary victini

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:25:33 No.13614498 Report

Quoted By: >>13614529 >>13614530 >>13614541

>shell smash Salamence
>Gamefreak purposely gives it to Shelgon at level 100 so this can never happen

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:27:43 No.13614522 Report

Quoted By: >>13614534 >>13614535

>swift swim swampert

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:28:30 No.13614529 Report

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>>13614498
>what is breeding

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:28:31 No.13614530 Report

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>>13614498
But if it learns it upon level-up att 100, it'll still evolve at that level.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:29:20 No.13614534 Report

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>>13614522
I like Sap Sipper Swampy better.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:29:28 No.13614535 Report

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>>13614522
>not sap sipper

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:29:33 No.13614536 Report

Quoted By: >>13614779 >>13616382

>levitate Magnezone

The worst part is that it makes sense...

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:29:44 No.13614541 Report

Quoted By: >>13614677

>>13614498
>level up a shelgon to level 100
>it learns shell smash
>exit battle
>What's this? Shelgon is evolving!

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:32:22 No.13614556 Report

Quoted By: >>13614577

>Huge Power Slaking

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:33:47 No.13614568 Report

Quoted By: >>13614718

>regenerator Blissey

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:34:49 No.13614577 Report

Quoted By: >>13614901

>>13614556
>Moxie Slaking
>Moxie [Psuedo Legendary]

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:47:10 No.13614677 Report

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>>13614541
>GF makes Shelgon only learn Shell Smash from a tutor when it is at level 100.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:53:31 No.13614718 Report

Quoted By: >>13614738

>>13614568
I did some theorymonning and I found that Poison Heal Blissey is a fuckin beast. Poison Heal is basically strictly better than Natural Cure, as you won't get harmful statuses anyways. That, and you get basically double leftovers. Any Trick users are themselves crippled. And, if they use Knock Off, you already have Poison, so it doesn't affect you.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 14:56:34 No.13614738 Report

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>>13614718
Woah, that'd be ridiculous.

I was thinking that having Regenerator would allow Blissey to pass wishes while healing itself, but Poison Heal makes it unonstopable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:01:28 No.13614779 Report

Quoted By: >>13614805 >>13614821

>>13614536
it's already got magnet rise tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:04:18 No.13614805 Report

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>>13614779
Not a half as good.

Magnet Pull is still better, tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:06:49 No.13614821 Report

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>>13614779
So does Eelektross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:09:44 No.13614843 Report

Quoted By: >>13615025

>Brine on Bibarel
>Super Fang + Brine combo shenanigans.
GF pls

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:16:36 No.13614901 Report

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>>13614577
What were they thinking giving Salamence moxie?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:35:02 No.13615025 Report

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>>13614843

What is Walrein

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:40:16 No.13615068 Report

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>huge power regigigas

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 15:43:13 No.13615090 Report

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>impostor blissey

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:01:12 No.13615826 Report

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>>13615025
I had no idea. Thank you sir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:05:04 No.13615849 Report

Quoted By: >>13615870

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/balanced-hackmons.3463764/

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:07:59 No.13615870 Report

Quoted By: >>13615887 >>13615902

>>13615849
>you can use everything!
>except for these because we hate fun

Fucking dropped.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:10:23 No.13615887 Report

Quoted By: >>13615892

>>13615870
There is also Pure Hackmons where everything is unbanned

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:11:16 No.13615892 Report

Quoted By: >>13615910 >>13615913 >>13615937

>>13615887
What's it like?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:11:25 No.13615897 Report

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>>13614462

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:11:55 No.13615902 Report

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>>13615870
you want to play original hackmons
enjoy every battle being no-guard deoxys speed with fissure+something with moldbreaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:12:39 No.13615910 Report

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>>13615892
No Guard + OHKO, Wonder Guards, Huge Power Slaking/Regigigas, anything you can imagine pretty much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:13:01 No.13615913 Report

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>>13615892
Worse than balanced hackmons. Unplayable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:17:32 No.13615937 Report

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>>13615892
Completely revolves around No Guard Sheer Cold Deoxys-S and Magic Guard pokemon and their counters.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:20:39 No.13615954 Report

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>>13615937
To add. Those counters are hazards, ability changing moves, and spore spam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:22:28 No.13615970 Report

Quoted By: >>13616391

>>13614462

and not of them is even remotely as broken as Dragon dance garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:26:45 No.13616001 Report

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>Slack Off Snorlax
>Nasty Plot Gengar
>Acrobatics Scyther

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:28:52 No.13616021 Report

Quoted By: >>13616026

>Sand Stream Shedinja

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:29:32 No.13616026 Report

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>>13616021
>killing himself

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:30:25 No.13616033 Report

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>>13616026
That's the joke

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:30:46 No.13616038 Report

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>Stall Ninjask

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:31:00 No.13616040 Report

Quoted By: >>13616048 >>13616094 >>13616110 >>13616174 >>13616499

Speed Boost Alakazam

Huge Power Machamp

Sap Sapper Starmie

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:32:22 No.13616048 Report

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>>13616040
Those are all terrible, nigger

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:33:33 No.13616060 Report

Quoted By: >>13616139

>Gluttony Slaking
>Reckless Archeops
>Sturdy Regigigas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:38:24 No.13616094 Report

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>>13616040
>implying alakazam isnt perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:40:36 No.13616110 Report

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>>13616040
>Removing Magic Guard from Alakazam

You're dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:41:25 No.13616117 Report

Quoted By: >>13616144 >>13616168

>Sturdy Alakazam
Lots of people run Sashes, so it would be nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:43:55 No.13616139 Report

Quoted By: >>13616157

>>13616060
>Reckless Archeops
>Head Smash a Blissey
>OHKO self

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:44:17 No.13616144 Report

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>>13616117
That's terrible. People run Sash because magic guard means it won't get broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:45:25 No.13616157 Report

Quoted By: >>13616181 >>13616272

>>13616139
I'm fairly sure a minimum HP Rampardos can already do that, assuming it OHKO's a max HP Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:46:25 No.13616168 Report

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>>13616117
>Pointed rocks dug into Alakazam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:47:22 No.13616174 Report

Quoted By: >>13616224 >>13616235

>>13616040
The whole appeal of Machamp is that he's the only pokemon in the game that gets 100% accurate STAB Dynamicpunch.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:48:18 No.13616181 Report

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>>13616157
>minimum HP Rampardos
But who even does this?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:50:55 No.13616205 Report

Quoted By: >>13616226 >>13616571

>Tailglow Simple Porygon-Z

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:52:48 No.13616224 Report

Quoted By: >>13616256

>>13616174
But Huge Power CC would destroy absolutely everything and easy trumps No Guard Dynamic Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:53:06 No.13616226 Report

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>>13616205
>Choice Scarf Close Combat

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:54:00 No.13616235 Report

Quoted By: >>13616261 >>13616265

>>13616174
Go lurk more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:55:54 No.13616256 Report

Quoted By: >>13616278

>>13616224
Actually it would be Huge Power Drain Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:56:10 No.13616261 Report

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>>13616235
Actually, don't mind this post. I forgot about the STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:57:00 No.13616265 Report

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>>13616235
>What is STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:58:18 No.13616272 Report

Quoted By: >>13616279

>>13616157
I know Brave Bird/Double Edge Staraptor can OHKO itself against Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:58:55 No.13616278 Report

Quoted By: >>13616352

>>13616256
Nope. Look up what moves Machamp learns and doesn't learn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 17:59:09 No.13616279 Report

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>>13616272
Same for Wood Hammer Abomasnow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:01:20 No.13616294 Report

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Skuntank with Levitate

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr

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Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:03:44 No.13616321 Report

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>Shift Gear Excadrill
>With all its Abilities active. Sand Rush, Sand Force, Mold Breaker, Shift Gear Excadrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:07:40 No.13616339 Report

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Multiscale Snorlax

Shed skin Snorlax

Prankster smeargle

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:08:31 No.13616347 Report

Quoted By: >>13616367 >>13616370

>Flare Blitz Flareon

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:09:02 No.13616352 Report

Quoted By:

>>13616278
That's retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:09:49 No.13616356 Report

Quoted By:

No Guard Glalie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:10:51 No.13616360 Report

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>Sturdy Shedinja

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:11:47 No.13616367 Report

Quoted By: >>13616372 >>13616373 >>13616406

>>13616347
>Flare Blitz
>Not a Fire-type Extremespeed

Leafeon could do more with Flare Blitz than Flareon could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:12:17 No.13616370 Report

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>>13616347
That is a thing already. Arcanine does it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:12:38 No.13616372 Report

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>>13616367
Most pokemon could do more with Flare Blitz than Flareon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:12:43 No.13616373 Report

Quoted By:

>>13616367
>Leafeon with Flare Blitz
Yes pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:14:18 No.13616382 Report

Quoted By: >>13616415

>>13614536
It would lose any effectiveness as a steel trapper, which is its sole purpose in the current metagame.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:16:05 No.13616391 Report

Quoted By: >>13616417

>>13615970

>implying DD Garchomp would be broken now.

It would only be broken in 4th Gen because Garchomp had such a retarded base speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:17:20 No.13616406 Report

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>>13616367
Leafon with Flare Blitz would actually be extremely good.
>Chlorophyl
>Sun
>Leaf Blade
>Flare Blitz
>Swords Dance
>Synthesis/Baton Pass
Viable in OU sun offense, and usable in the lower tiers with Sunny Day instead of Swords Dance.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:17:35 No.13616407 Report

Quoted By: >>13616424

You wanna fix flareon?

Give it
V - create
and
contrary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:18:32 No.13616415 Report

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>>13616382
It would probably still be in OU, as many things wouldn't be able to touch it at all.

But it's still better as a steel trapper, anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:18:38 No.13616417 Report

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>>13616391
It still has the best base speed of any Dragon Dancer.
It wouldn't be broken but it would be damn good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:19:39 No.13616424 Report

Quoted By:

>>13616407
Still RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:20:43 No.13616432 Report

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>>13614462
>Huge Power Mawile
>Wonder Guard Sableye/Spiritomb
>Speed Boost Gallade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:27:14 No.13616493 Report

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These threads are so stupid.
>sunkern with 1000000 in every stat

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:27:50 No.13616499 Report

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>>13616040
>Hi guys do I fit in yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:35:47 No.13616545 Report

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>Shadow Tag Chandelure
The wait continues

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:40:07 No.13616571 Report

Quoted By: >>13616585

>>13616205
>he thinks hes a game dev lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:41:43 No.13616585 Report

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>>13616571
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:42:14 No.13616591 Report

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>Contrary Serperior

Oh wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:46:24 No.13616614 Report

Quoted By: >>13616728

>Technician Weavile

And then everything was fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 18:48:02 No.13616631 Report

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>Spinda with Overheat, Leafstorm, VCreate, CC, etc
Its stats are shit enough that you could give it absolutely everything to abuse Contrary and it would never be broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 19:01:00 No.13616728 Report

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>>13616614
god dammit that would help with all those times i tried to pursuit trap a starmie for it to stay in and barely live

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 19:13:21 No.13616844 Report

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>MegaAmpharos still doesn't get Tail Glow

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