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>>13618259
>not wanting to be immune to electric
>not wanting to get rid of toxic spikes
>not wanting to be immune to toxic
>implying STAB EQ isn't the best thing ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:08:25 No.13618627 Report

Quoted By: >>13618684

>>13618259
Typing is actually pretty good. Speed is Nidoking's sole isshu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:09:58 No.13618648 Report

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My team got totally raped by a Weavile/Nidoking who hit me with a 100% crit ratio. Fuck you, Nidoking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:10:10 No.13618652 Report

Quoted By: >>13618675

No Life Orb damage and STAB EQ is preety-neato.

My favorite that can abuse no Life Orb damage is still Clefable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:13:35 No.13618675 Report

Quoted By: >>13618687 >>13618690

>>13618652
EQ does give you LO recoil, imbecile. Earth Power doesn't, assuming Sheer Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:14:26 No.13618684 Report

Quoted By: >>13618695 >>13618713 >>13618739

>>13618627
Choice Scarf is your friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:14:59 No.13618687 Report

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>>13618675
I don't think it does, man. Why would it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:15:10 No.13618690 Report

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>>13618675
I'm pretty sure no attacks give LO damage with Sheer Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:15:36 No.13618695 Report

Quoted By: >>13618739

>>13618684
Then his varied move set kinda goes down the toilet though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:16:58 No.13618713 Report

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>>13618684
Choice Scarf would have to replace Life Orb, which when going for max damage from Sheer Force, isn't a good idea, also being able to switch between moves is such a boon for Sheer Force LO anything, would hate to give that versatility up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:18:31 No.13618739 Report

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>>13618684
>>13618695
just ninjask baton pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:18:53 No.13618741 Report

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>>13618687
>>13618690
Only moves affected by SF don't give you LO recoil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:19:40 No.13618752 Report

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>>13618690
The move only negates LO damage if it's affected by Sheer Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:19:43 No.13618753 Report

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If only its Attack and Sp Attack were switched, since it uses special moves more often despite it being the lower stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:22:19 No.13618773 Report

Quoted By: >>13618788 >>13618831

If nidoking was gen 6, people would say its he edgiest thing ever and require a dragon typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:22:34 No.13618778 Report

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>>13618741
Oh, forgot about that. My mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:24:04 No.13618788 Report

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>>13618773
I think he's cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:26:22 No.13618812 Report

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>>13618603
>implying you would run physical Nidoking

just no...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:27:48 No.13618831 Report

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>>13618773
I wouldn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:33:26 No.13618884 Report

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>>13618812
>what is mixed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:36:12 No.13618901 Report

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>>13618884
a terrible set that you should be ashamed for using

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:37:29 No.13618910 Report

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>>13618901
Cute, did Smogon tell you to say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:38:28 No.13618925 Report

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>>13618910
no, you're sacrificing the little power that nidoking has, to run something that isn't usefull at all anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:39:31 No.13618930 Report

Quoted By: >>13618949

>>13618884
mixed nidoking is terrible. if you want it to do damage go max spatt and max speed. Earth Power does the same job as EQ, on nidoking even better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:39:45 No.13618931 Report

Quoted By: >>13618953 >>13618965 >>13618966 >>13624567

>>13618925
>little power

Nidoking is the strongest special attacker in UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:40:09 No.13618934 Report

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>>13618910
>losing max EV boost
>not utilizing Sheer Force
>taking LO damage
Yeah, physical moves are great on Nidoking. Gotta have that Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:41:40 No.13618947 Report

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>>13618524
>BalloonTran
Actually the King can carry Focus Blast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:41:47 No.13618949 Report

Quoted By: >>13618968 >>13618983 >>13618985 >>13618999

>>13618925
>>13618930
>not having fun choosing your own sets and instead copy-pasting the same, predictable, run-of-the-mill moves from smogon.

It's like the buzzword was invented for your kind.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:42:07 No.13618953 Report

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>>13618931
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:42:18 No.13618954 Report

Quoted By: >>13618970 >>13618975 >>13618978 >>13618984 >>13619169 >>13619195

People actually take Nidoking seriously? I have a Gallade set that could tear him apart easily, and Gallade is a tier below.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:43:20 No.13618965 Report

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>>13618931
Really, nothing has more than a measley 85 Special Attack? I mean, I get that it could be considering Sheer Force and Life Orb, but on its own, its Special Attack stat really is low.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:43:21 No.13618966 Report

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>>13618931
if you want nido to actually kill something with non stab moves you need max power, even with sheer force and life orb. why do you think smogon suggests Fire Blast over flamethrower? it's to 2hko bronzong, a premier uu wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:43:39 No.13618968 Report

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>>13618949
I do have fun making my own sets
it just so happens that the sets are similar to what smogon recommends, because they use the best standard set

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:43:48 No.13618970 Report

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>>13618954
>a pokemon can be countered
>it sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:44:24 No.13618975 Report

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>>13618954
Every Pokemon has it's counters, many in lower tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:44:32 No.13618978 Report

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>>13618954
>this Pokemon is bad because a Pokemon with a type advantage can beat it
Look at this moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:45:03 No.13618983 Report

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>>13618949
have fun losing then. As for me, i will stick with earth power, ice beam, t-bolt and whichever fourth move i choose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:45:04 No.13618984 Report

Quoted By: >>13619000 >>13619011

>>13618954
Darkrai is countered by Primeape. Does that mean Darkrai should be NU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:45:05 No.13618985 Report

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>>13618949
>get told
>bbbbbut you're stupid for being efficient

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:45:39 No.13618995 Report

Quoted By: >>13619006

>>13618978
I could tear apart a nidoking without even touching psycho cut/Zen Headbutt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:46:01 No.13618999 Report

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>>13618949
dude there is a difference between copypasting sets and simply being not retarded and use moves that work best on nidoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:46:11 No.13619000 Report

Quoted By: >>13619011

>>13618984
No. Primeape should be Uber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:46:54 No.13619006 Report

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>>13618995
Wow, you're right. Nidoking totally sucks. Gallade da best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:46:57 No.13619007 Report

Quoted By: >>13619019

Speed and Def is the only thing stopping Nidoking from sweeping.
i dont like using choice scarf instead of Life Orb, so... baton pass him some speed and have fun killing almost everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:47:30 No.13619011 Report

Quoted By: >>13619033

>>13618984
exactly what
>>13619000
said. Gallade should be at least UU, I don't care where Nidoking sits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:48:45 No.13619019 Report

Quoted By: >>13619034

>>13619007
or go easy mode and paralyze or sleep things that are faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:51:24 No.13619033 Report

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>>13619011
Tiers are determined by usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:51:24 No.13619034 Report

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>>13619019

Speaking of, I always wondered if Nidoking could work well with Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:54:32 No.13619057 Report

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>>13619034
nah, it is too fast to be a trick room sweeper and too slow to be a regular sweeper. there are many things that underspeed it, especially in UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:54:32 No.13619058 Report

Quoted By: >>13619074

>>13619034
too fast IMO. i usually go doubles often, so i lead with whimsicott and nidoking, use protect and tailwind. its pretty predictable , but its a rape wagon if you get the tailwind off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:55:01 No.13619060 Report

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>>13619034
He's 2fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:55:52 No.13619067 Report

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>>13619034
I'd rather it get Rock Polish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:57:13 No.13619074 Report

Quoted By: >>13619080 >>13619089 >>13619121

>>13619058
Why use Protect? Whimy goes first and gives your team the boost, then Nidoking is fast, no? Wouldnt King go next?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:58:16 No.13619080 Report

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>>13619074
not how it works mate

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:58:53 No.13619085 Report

Quoted By: >>13619095

>Two Nidoking threads on the same page

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 22:59:44 No.13619089 Report

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>>13619074
Tailwind doesn't take effect until the turn after it's used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:00:21 No.13619095 Report

Quoted By: >>13619121 >>13619136 >>13619143

>>13619085
Nidoking is the shit is why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:01:18 No.13619102 Report

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>>13618259
What about one with a hasty nature?
Then later, pump it up with some protein to compensate for Atk being down

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:02:05 No.13619106 Report

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>>13619102
Do you understand how the games work at all?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:03:07 No.13619111 Report

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>>13619102
>this much casualfagging

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:04:03 No.13619121 Report

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>>13619095
i was about to start screaming at you, but then i re-read what you said
>>13619074
the other dudes kinda answered it for me

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:06:17 No.13619136 Report

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>>13619095

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:07:07 No.13619143 Report

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>>13619095
I fucking love Nidoking

>Catch Hustle Nidoran in the Dream World
>About to box it
>Modest Nature
>Above Average IV's
>Ehh, why not
>Becomes an unholy death machine hat hasn't left my team in over a year

sage

sage Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:09:19 No.13619158 Report

Quoted By: >>13619162 >>13619164 >>13619166 >>13619173

>>13619111
>>/a/

sage

sage Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:09:52 No.13619162 Report

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>>13619158
whoops saged wrong here we go

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:10:21 No.13619164 Report

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>>13619158
>sage in name field

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:10:42 No.13619165 Report

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>>13619162
I just did it in another thread. But I'm drunk, so I have an excuse.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:11:16 No.13619166 Report

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>>13619158
YA GOOFED

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:11:36 No.13619169 Report

Quoted By: >>13619183 >>13619230 >>13619233

>>13618954
A pokemon has a counter, and it's counter has a type advantage?
With that mentality, fuck your Gallade with my Honchcrow. Gratz, you just got killed by a fedora.
Fuck off, faggot, Nidoking would wreck you. I bet you didn't even get that feel when in Gen I Giovanni gave you Fissure, before it was nerfed, and your Nidoking ruled all.
Sit the fuck down and shut the fuckup.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:11:53 No.13619173 Report

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>>13619158

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:13:05 No.13619183 Report

Quoted By: >>13619219

>>13619169
Ice Beamu
Ice Punchu
*ground type move here*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:15:32 No.13619195 Report

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>>13618954

>not knowing Parasect counters ubers

it's like you've never played the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:16:01 No.13619200 Report

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THE KING
of tiny bunnies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:17:59 No.13619216 Report

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Been mah bro since I was 5 and got a Nidoking toy from Burger king. A few weeks later was my birthday and I got a pokemon game and a gameboy. I caught a Nidoran and had one in every game since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:18:26 No.13619219 Report

Quoted By: >>13619234

>>13619183

Honchrow is immune to Ground moves though. Also Gastrodon can't learn Ice Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:19:06 No.13619224 Report

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That feel when Giovanni has one of these destructive mother fuckers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:20:00 No.13619230 Report

Quoted By: >>13619239 >>13619329

>>13619169
I didn't run shit tier pokemon in Gen 1 either, so I never had a nidoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:20:42 No.13619233 Report

Quoted By: >>13619251 >>13624428

>>13619169
Also, my gallade runs ice punch and Justified, unless you're planning on wing attacking like a huge faggot

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:20:42 No.13619234 Report

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>>13619219
10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:21:05 No.13619238 Report

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>>13619173
>dat Akari

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:21:49 No.13619239 Report

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>>13619230

Isn't it fairly good though? It learns basically every move and has Double Kick. Plus you get him at Mt Moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:23:32 No.13619251 Report

Quoted By: >>13619266

>>13619233

Doesn't the Fighting type push Dark types down a step, meaning Flying would be better to use anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:24:30 No.13619266 Report

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>>13619251
correct, though most people don't seem to get that, at least from my experience, they're like OH YISS DARK ATTACKSSSSS.... +1 attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:25:27 No.13619273 Report

Quoted By: >>13619431

>>13618243

Nidoking has been a bro since gen 1 and I'm happy about the boost he got. I'm hoping gen 6 will be to poison as gen 4 was to bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:27:15 No.13619284 Report

Quoted By: >>13619305

>>13618524
>shellpass

How? Smeargle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:29:35 No.13619305 Report

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>>13619284
Clampearl and its evos get it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:33:34 No.13619329 Report

Quoted By: >>13619339 >>13619355

>>13619230
How's 6th grade going?

I'm a casualfag, but nidoking is my fav mon of all time, so I'm just here to praise the king.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:34:40 No.13619339 Report

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>>13619329
ask me 9 years ago, thanks.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:36:07 No.13619355 Report

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>>13619329

I'm an idiot, I should be dumping Nidoking pics.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:37:15 No.13619362 Report

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>>13619355

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:38:35 No.13619375 Report

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>>13619362

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2013 23:44:29 No.13619431 Report

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>>13619273
Considering what poison does to fairy now, I'm optimistic.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 02:09:04 No.13620832 Report

Quoted By: >>13624361

Just going to leave this here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 02:11:56 No.13620849 Report

Quoted By: >>13620863

>>13619431
Not exactly confirmed that Poison is SE, I'd be severely butthurt if it didn't though. They can't seriously introduce a new type and then just leave a type that has only one strength alone.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 02:13:37 No.13620863 Report

Quoted By: >>13621190

>>13620849
Oh really? Sorry, I'm not on top of this. Where's everyone getting the implication?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 02:48:44 No.13621190 Report

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>>13620863
The leaks that have been right so far, but I've read about inconsistencies with the Fairy type effectiveness, so that part of the leak may be wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:10:20 No.13624353 Report

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Is the Life Orb + Sheer Force thing intentional or do you think it's getting changed in Gen 6? As far as I know Sheer Force isn't supposed to remove things like recoil or stat penalties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:12:57 No.13624361 Report

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>>13620832

333edgy666me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:18:53 No.13624394 Report

Quoted By: >>13624432

Oh man I just looked Nidoking up, I didn't realize its stats were so terribly low. None of them even stand out as being that great at all. No wonder I've never seen a Nidoking used.
Also why would someone use a special Nidoking over a physical one? I haven't ever seen them used but physical seems like the obvious choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:22:25 No.13624412 Report

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>>13618544
Too bad legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:25:56 No.13624428 Report

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>>13619233
>what is brave bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:26:43 No.13624432 Report

Quoted By: >>13624752

>>13624394

Sheer Force boosts his special moveset a lot more than his physical moveset

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 14:56:18 No.13624567 Report

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>>13618931
Chandelure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 15:30:52 No.13624752 Report

Quoted By: >>13624774

>>13624432
I can see it as a gimmick, but...
Nidoking @ Life Orb
Naive nature, SAtk/Spe
-Hone Claws
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Blizzard

or even
Nidoking @ Life Orb
Jolly, Atk/Spe
-Hone Claws
-Gunk Shot (Poison Jab if it doesn't get)
-Ice Punch/Fire Punch
-Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 15:34:02 No.13624774 Report

Quoted By: >>13624783 >>13624784 >>13624795

>>13624752
>naive nature
>hone claws
>no physical moves

u wot m8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 15:36:03 No.13624783 Report

Quoted By: >>13626554

>>13624774
sry mate, swapped Ice Punch for Blizzard (when I remembered it gets the move) at the last moment and forgot to change it to Timid.
Basically, the idea is to get the accuracy boost to spam FB/Blizz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 15:36:11 No.13624784 Report

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>>13624774

Not same anon but obv for accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 15:37:44 No.13624795 Report

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>>13624774
Hone Claws raises accuracy too, brah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 19:15:58 No.13626554 Report

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>>13624783
Use Poison Jab, it gets boosted by Hone Claws and it have an effect, so its boosted by Sheer Force too. Actually, Poison Jab is stronger than EQ assuming that. And Poison is not so terrible, it's alright as Neutral coverage, Steel being inmune to it is the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2013 19:52:27 No.13627005 Report

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>>13618243
wait for the meganidoking

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