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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 08:12:31 No.13677483 View View Reply Original Report

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How does it feel to know that no matter how much they rebalance the game, players will figure out how to break X and Y within weeks and then we'll be stuck with another samey metagame for the rest of the generation?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 08:19:45 No.13677526 Report

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There's plenty of ways to win in this metagame once you git gud
Consider generic teams training wheels and use that to your advantage once you know what everything's typically capable of.
Besides, UU is the best tier for balance imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 08:29:59 No.13677580 Report

Quoted By: >>13677593 >>13677831

I wonder what will replace sneaky pebbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 08:32:51 No.13677593 Report

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>>13677580
Sneaky Fairy Dust

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 08:33:31 No.13677599 Report

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:39:02 No.13677818 Report

Quoted By: >>13677874

>Gamefreak announces they'll be releasing a Pokémon with an ability or attack it couldn't previously have every Thursday to keep the Metagame fresh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:42:16 No.13677831 Report

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>>13677580
Floating Icicles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:43:23 No.13677834 Report

Quoted By: >>13677874 >>13677890 >>13678113

I would really like if they could remove team preview. I can't be the only one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:49:42 No.13677866 Report

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I don't really mind seeing the same old teams all the time. It only motivates me to use unique teams and find uses for Pokemon that i don't see getting used a lot. Though i'll occasionally let myself slip an OU Pokemon on my team, my favorites end up being mostly UU Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:52:10 No.13677874 Report

Quoted By: >>13677889

>>13677818
>Gafefreak
>giving a shit about the metagame
pick one

>>13677834
This so much. It would also make Zoroark at least viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:55:16 No.13677889 Report

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>>13677874
>Introduce Ruse: the ability
>Introduce Anti-Ruse IN THE SAME FUCKING GENERATION
That was so retarded, oh god it hurts so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:55:34 No.13677890 Report

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>>13677834
I wouldn't mind team preview staying, now that we got megas. Since there is now way to know if something is a mega or not before it's sent out and transforms, I guess you could play a few mindgames with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 09:57:14 No.13677894 Report

Quoted By: >>13677922

It's GameFreak's fault. IV's are a broken mechanism and that's why people cheat, and if they're respecting what a pokémon can achieve normally through breeding or RNG, then there's nothing they can do.

What they should do for stopping this bullshit is max every IV to 31 or reduce them to 0 only for online and multiplayer battles. The IV's should only work in-game, and with those values they should calculate the hidden power and such as usual.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:02:40 No.13677914 Report

Quoted By: >>13677930

Feels indifferent, since I mostly play NU and RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:05:26 No.13677922 Report

Quoted By: >>13677944 >>13677989

>>13677894
>if they're respecting what a pokémon can achieve normally through breeding or RNG

RNG isn't "a normal way of achieving stats" and Gamefreak acknowledged it as cheating by fucking up with the way RNG works in B/W2.

Other than that,I agree with your point about online battles,putting everyone on even grounds would reduce cheating by a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:07:39 No.13677930 Report

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>>13677914
>implying they don't have copypaste teams either
please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:11:10 No.13677944 Report

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>>13677922

basically, EV train is a thing everyone must learn, and with super training, it's even easier. But it wasn't that hard in the first place. There was actually not need to change that.

Go to a cave with 90% low level Geodudes or Zubats. Got to the sea and fight tentacools and cruels. Find a patch of grass with SP.At giver, like Natu... Get a poke with PokeRus and with Macho brace. In 2 hours you've got every EV you wanted maxed out.

I think GF are just a bunch of faggots for ignoring the real problem, IV's.

People cheat because IV's are bullshit, not because EV training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:19:22 No.13677971 Report

Quoted By: >>13678059

>>13677944
I didn't say a thing about EVs. Besides seeing how they make breeding easier with each gen,I'm pretty sure they'll soon make IVs as easily attainable as EVs are now.

Also always EV train in an area that has only one or two species. Desert resort for the atk,litwick cemetery for sp.atk,basculin for speed etc. That way it's much faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:24:54 No.13677989 Report

Quoted By: >>13678000

>>13677922
The RNG works perfectly fine in BW2., it works exactly the same as BW's, which is the wasiest RNG to date.

They fucked up RNG breeding, but according to the guys who know what they're on about, that was a coding error not intentional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:27:14 No.13678000 Report

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>>13677989
Really? Then pardon my mistake. Last time I've heard of it everyone was still thinking that was intentional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:42:37 No.13678059 Report

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>>13677971

They're an extra effort that it's really not worth it. You still have to match Natures and perfect IV's. And Pokemon that cannot be breed are just a "fuck you".

The best solution is to keep them in game, for compatibility issues mostly, and ignore them in online and local multiplayer battles.

It's really retarded that they autolevel your pokemon to level 50, and don't make every IV 0, 15 or 31 for battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 10:56:06 No.13678113 Report

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>>13677834

Team preview should go. Stealth Rocks should be changed to a neutral damage hazard that does x amount to every type instead of factoring in weaknesses, if they have to keep it in. Get rid of critical strikes on every attack, allow some moves to have crit chance. Get rid of IV's, I'm sure there's they can figure something out for hidden power. Speaking of hidden power, let someone choose what type when a pokemon learns it. Bring back old sleep mechanics, not this reset on switch in bullshit. Let me burn sleep turns if I want to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2013 12:31:56 No.13678519 Report

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Fine because when I play competitive games I play games with competitive value. Thats not what I come to Pokemon for.

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