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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 13:11:56 No.13786677 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13789965 >>13790068 >>13791241

>Get plenty of power out of the Dragon-type move Dragon Claw, which benefits from Mega Garchomp's type and its high Attack stat.
>high attack stat
>Sand Force
THERE ARE NO STOPS ON THE RAPE TRAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 13:20:01 No.13786771 Report

Quoted By: >>13789614 >>13789643

It's speed is going to drop. Just outpace it with a fast ice or fairy type and he won't be an issue.

Anon

Anon Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:10:52 No.13789561 Report

Quoted By: >>13789643

It can be killed by a mamoswine ice shard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:11:43 No.13789579 Report

Quoted By: >>13789643 >>13789723

Mega Garchomp's speed is lower than regular garchomp.

No one is going to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:14:13 No.13789614 Report

Quoted By: >>13789627 >>13789659 >>13790074

>>13786771

How much will it drop though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:14:15 No.13789615 Report

Quoted By:

where is garchomp on the site?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:15:09 No.13789627 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789614
only a little

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:16:28 No.13789643 Report

Quoted By: >>13789658 >>13789660 >>13789665

>>13786771
>>13789561
>>13789579
>what is choice scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:17:21 No.13789658 Report

Quoted By: >>13789751 >>13789854

>>13789643
megas can't hold items silly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:17:21 No.13789659 Report

Quoted By: >>13789827 >>13789845

>>13789614
"only a little"

Read: Down to 80 speed.

This is going to make him worthless. He was only good because he had 102 speed.

Eg !GPlanttyCw

Eg !GPlanttyCw Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:17:24 No.13789660 Report

Quoted By: >>13789751 >>13789854

>>13789643
Something you can't use on a Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:17:33 No.13789665 Report

Quoted By: >>13789751 >>13789854

>>13789643
what is megastone to evolve using the choice scarf slot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:18:56 No.13789692 Report

Quoted By: >>13789718

>muh speed main stat glass canon high dps logic

Seriously I know it's the problem of current gen but people should stop using current smogon to judge an upcoming gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:20:22 No.13789718 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789692
when people talking about smogon and stuff like that we're talking about competitive battling specifically, not the whole game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:20:46 No.13789723 Report

Quoted By: >>13789782 >>13789811

>>13789579
Just like Landorus-T, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:21:37 No.13789735 Report

Quoted By: >>13789776 >>13789942

Where are you guys seeing information on mega chomps stats???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:22:46 No.13789751 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789665
>>13789658
>>13789660

get told

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:24:28 No.13789776 Report

Quoted By: >>13789942

>>13789735
I know, it must have been up for a couple of minutes and then removed for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:25:23 No.13789782 Report

Quoted By: >>13789801 >>13789808

>>13789723
garchomp has neither the movepool nor the ability of landorus T

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:26:43 No.13789801 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789782
Nor the ability to hold items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:27:15 No.13789808 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789782

it doesn't have 145 attack either, but that's not going to stop people

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:27:16 No.13789809 Report

Quoted By:

>lower speed
>gets bulkier
it's the giratina of OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:27:18 No.13789811 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789723
it often runs rock polish and can actually hold a scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:27:20 No.13789812 Report

Quoted By: >>13789992

They should have given it Sand Rush for ultimate trolling.

>We reduced it's speed to raise it's attack
>OH IS THAT SAND?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:28:18 No.13789827 Report

Quoted By: >>13789855 >>13789951

>>13789659
>Down to 80

Garchomp's originally 108. Expect 90

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:29:09 No.13789840 Report

Quoted By:

Speed probably dropped to 100

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:29:29 No.13789845 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789659
If "a little" is a drop of 22 points, I'd like to see what "greatly" looks like. Because 180 Attack is nothing to laugh at, even with a speed drop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:30:13 No.13789854 Report

Quoted By: >>13789951

>>13789658
>>13789660
>>13789665
oh. this is something I legitimately did not know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:30:14 No.13789855 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789827
garchomp is 102

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:31:01 No.13789868 Report

Quoted By: >>13789935

HP: 108
ATT: 150
DEF: 95
SPA: 110
SPD: 85
SPE: 101 92
BST: 640

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:34:12 No.13789932 Report

Quoted By: >>13790012

Don't forget that you turn mega when you want, don't act like you'll start the fight with a slower m.garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:34:20 No.13789935 Report

Quoted By: >>13789975

>>13789868
Garchomp has always had low special attack, speed and special attack should be reversed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:34:54 No.13789942 Report

Quoted By: >>13789952 >>13789954

>>13789735
>>13789776

It's still there. Says his Sp.Atk and Atk get a big boost, but it loses a bit of speed.

In other words, expect Weavile to shoot up in usage as a Mega Garchomp counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:35:38 No.13789951 Report

Quoted By: >>13789975

>>13789854
The held item is the mega stone, the stat boosts and stuff comes from it. So think of it like the Scarf providing speed to Garchomp, or The Megastone giving it boosted attack and ability.

>>13789827
Where does it say the speed drops? Is there info on the other megas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:35:39 No.13789952 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789942
So he's going to be a poor mans mixmence

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:35:48 No.13789954 Report

Quoted By: >>13789975 >>13789989

>>13789942
link pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:36:26 No.13789965 Report

Quoted By: >>13790161

>>13786677
LOOK AT HIS FUCKING JAW.

JESUS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:37:21 No.13789975 Report

Quoted By: >>13789996 >>13790001

>>13789935
The website says its Attack and Special Attack both "improve greatly", with a slight speed reduction
I gave its attacking stats a boost and reduced Speed by 10

>>13789951
>>13789954
http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/
The official website tells you things too guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:38:21 No.13789989 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789954
http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/

Scroll down to Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:38:29 No.13789992 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789812
sounds awesome, pity that would be way to overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:38:37 No.13789996 Report

Quoted By: >>13790037 >>13790053 >>13790076

>>13789975
there is no garchomp on that page for me, I've checked it several times

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:38:45 No.13790001 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789975
I know sorry I didn't catch it, I read the picture captions and completely ignored the heading text.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:39:32 No.13790012 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789932
this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:41:15 No.13790037 Report

Quoted By: >>13790135

>>13789996
Check again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:41:27 No.13790042 Report

Quoted By:

>Gliscor
>Landorus-T
>Balloon Azumarill
>Rain Teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:41:58 No.13790053 Report

Quoted By: >>13790135

>>13789996
there definitely is im in the UK though, maybe its not on the other versions of the website

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:43:04 No.13790068 Report

Quoted By:

>>13786677
>That jawline
would tang

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:43:23 No.13790074 Report

Quoted By: >>13790116 >>13790130 >>13790166

>>13789614
one stage
offenses increase by 2 stages

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:43:29 No.13790076 Report

Quoted By: >>13790135

>>13789996
What? It's right there, check again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:45:22 No.13790107 Report

Quoted By:

>LOWER SPEED

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:45:55 No.13790116 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790074

Pretty lame then. That's like one turn with Moody.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:47:21 No.13790130 Report

Quoted By: >>13790148

>>13790074
sauce pls, John Gamefreak-sama

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:47:42 No.13790135 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790037
>>13790053
>>13790076
it's there now.. I think I started scrolling before the page loaded completely and it fucked it up or something. I wish I took a screenshot, it was weird.

John Gamefreak-sama

John Gamefreak-sama Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:48:52 No.13790148 Report

Quoted By: >>13790166

>>13790130
I'm just guessing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:49:55 No.13790161 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789965
Jawsome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:50:07 No.13790166 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790074
>>13790148
An entire stage is a huge change in either direction
It will probably be around a 10 point drop in Speed and a 20-30 point increase in Attack/Special Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:03:35 No.13790374 Report

Quoted By:

Even if chomp's speed only decreses by 10 points it's worthless now except as a surprise twist in battle. You expected speedy strong garchomp? How about slow but OHKO everything garchomp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:05:55 No.13790410 Report

Quoted By: >>13790433 >>13790443 >>13790513

Now watch as GF throws in a Fairy/Ice type that has the perfect stat distribution to OHKO Megachomps

Its not that hard. Imagine a fairy type move that does damage based on the opponent mon's attack stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:07:19 No.13790426 Report

Quoted By:

>complaining about speed nerf
Nothing a little agility + baton pass couldn't fix

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:07:51 No.13790433 Report

Quoted By: >>13790453

>>13790410

You don't need a Fairy/Ice, you need a Ground/Ice with 130 base attack and ice shard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:08:33 No.13790443 Report

Quoted By: >>13790508

>Mega Evolution occurs mid-battle, before attacking
>Garchomp can move first with his 102 base Speed, then Mega Evolve before actually attacking with its monstrous Attack stat
For the first turn at least, the lower speed won't matter

>>13790410
>Ice/Fairy Psuedo Legendary
Or just use Ice Shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:08:59 No.13790453 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790433
But mammoswine's only purpose is being chomp-killer. anything else and he's fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:12:14 No.13790508 Report

Quoted By: >>13790539

>>13790443
>Evolves at begining of turn
>His new speed makes him go after his opponent
>BAD END
How it's really going to go down

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:12:19 No.13790513 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790410
>ice fairy

enjoy catching an iron head on the switch in, or sacking something to get a switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:13:38 No.13790539 Report

Quoted By: >>13790983

>>13790508
Mega Evolution occurs during a Pokemon's turn, after Speed calculations have already been made

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:21:37 No.13790663 Report

Quoted By: >>13790746

>Fairy/Flying
or
>Fairy with levitate
Enjoy relying on StoneMiss

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:28:18 No.13790746 Report

Quoted By: >>13790802 >>13791517

>>13790663
sand
boosted
iron
head

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:33:32 No.13790802 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790746
How much power will it be, can someone calculate?
It's 80 base, 30% from Sand Force, Mega boost to maybe 150-160 Attack.
30% Flinch is just a nice bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:44:37 No.13790983 Report

Quoted By: >>13791243

>>13790539
>source

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:59:02 No.13791241 Report

Quoted By: >>13791441

>>13786677
>THERE ARE NO STOPS ON THE RAPE TRAIN
yeah but Its so slow I got plenty of time to derail it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:59:12 No.13791243 Report

Quoted By: >>13791274

>>13790983
gameplay videos
have you actually watched them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:00:45 No.13791274 Report

Quoted By: >>13791417

>>13791243
Mewtwo's normal form has the same base speed as Crobat
When Mewtwo mega evolves, I have seen no video of Crobat going first
Therefore, they calculated speed AFTER Mewtwo got his boost. Otherwise, there would be at least ONE speed tie where Crobat goes first.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:07:18 No.13791394 Report

Quoted By: >>13791467 >>13791475

>Garchomp Killer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:08:44 No.13791417 Report

Quoted By: >>13791474

>>13791274
When did he ever face a crobat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:10:28 No.13791441 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791241
10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:12:38 No.13791467 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791394
>eq

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:12:58 No.13791474 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791417
I only have one of the videos of the demo, but there are others like the german version demo and such
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4c7n6WUO8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:13:02 No.13791475 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791394
>implying implications

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:16:15 No.13791517 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790746
Then he gets walled pretty hard by Skarmory.

Assuming he's carrying:
Swords Dance/Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake

The fourth move is either Iron Head, Rock Slide, Fire Fang, or Poison Jab Whichever one it is, Chomp will be able to deal with one check but not others.

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