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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:21:22 No.13788727 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13788770 >>13789064 >>13790172 >>13791903

>Grass gets Buffed
>Electric gets Buffed
>Ghost getting Super Buffed

>Bug getting nerfed
Unless you're going to reveal some kind of Bug Exclusive item that raises all the users stats by 50% during battle Gamefreak, this is bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:22:12 No.13788738 Report

Quoted By: >>13788754

Bug/Fairy legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:23:12 No.13788754 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788738
It'd be good because of it's Fairy Typing, not it's bug typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:24:12 No.13788770 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788727
>other types get buffed
wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:24:16 No.13788775 Report

Quoted By: >>13788805

>Ghost getting Super Buffed
As a ghost trainer this is great news.
bugs can go suck it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:24:46 No.13788784 Report

Quoted By: >>13788835

They've nerfed Dragons and Steels, clearly they want Scizor to be especially nerfed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:25:16 No.13788792 Report

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I wanna use Poison or Bug

Hoping one day...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:25:48 No.13788799 Report

Quoted By: >>13788845

Why does Gamefreak hate Bug and Ice so much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:26:09 No.13788805 Report

Quoted By: >>13788835

>>13788775

>mega buffed

Not really. Just one less type that resists you, and immune to mean look and shit. Not confirmed to being immune to trapping abilities, but most likely will.

Which still isn't even that big of a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:27:17 No.13788817 Report

Quoted By: >>13788841 >>13788849

A Bug/Ground type with the moves to cover its 4 weaknesses and a mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:28:07 No.13788835 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788784
Except Scizor has suffered nothing from all these nerfs and only gained.

Nerfing Steel types gave it the fucking Monopoly on Fairy fucking and the nerf to Bugs does nothing because Scizor IS a steel type too.

>>13788805
>Underestiming the value of Ghosts no longer being resisted by Steel

They don't have to carry Focus Miss anymore. This is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:28:32 No.13788837 Report

Quoted By: >>13788857

am I just really out of the loop or something? how exactly did bug getr more nerfed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:28:43 No.13788841 Report

Quoted By: >>13788870 >>13789063

>>13788817

Bug ground doesn't have a 4x weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:29:17 No.13788845 Report

Quoted By: >>13788898

>>13788799
>u-turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:29:26 No.13788849 Report

Quoted By: >>13788870 >>13789063

>>13788817
What 4x weakness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:29:45 No.13788857 Report

Quoted By: >>13788888

>>13788837
Fairy resists Bug attacks.

Because it's a okay for another type to resist Bug BUT GOD FORBID ANYTHING MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR WATER TYPES

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:30:40 No.13788870 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788849
>>13788841
Are you fuckers illiterate?

He said 4 weaknesses not his fucking 4x weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:31:50 No.13788888 Report

Quoted By: >>13788984 >>13789217 >>13789381 >>13790635 >>13791500

>>13788857
Just for bitching bug is now weak to water.

-gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:32:19 No.13788898 Report

Quoted By: >>13789010 >>13789400 >>13789598

>>13788845
Then why not lower the BP than nerf the entire fucking type? Scizor being half Steel isn't even nerfed nearly as much as poor Heracross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:37:25 No.13788984 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788888
quints confirms it. top kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:38:44 No.13789010 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788898

Abloo bloo bloo, Heracross isn't good against fairy. abloo bloo bloo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:42:09 No.13789063 Report

Quoted By: >>13789073

>>13788849
>>13788841

Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:42:10 No.13789064 Report

Quoted By: >>13789283

>>13788727

>Ice not losing its Rock Weakness (it's just stupid, there are many solid ices that can be much harder than rock)
>Rock not losing its Ground weakness (seriously rock being weak to ground barely makes sense)
>Grass not resisting Fairy
>and maybe give Ice a resistance to Dragon, just because

That's all you needed to do Gamefreak. Good thing the 3DS accepts updates and Gamefreak will be willing to change the type chart in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:42:51 No.13789073 Report

Quoted By: >>13789109 >>13789312

>>13789063

Bug isn't weak to ice.

Shocking I know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:44:57 No.13789109 Report

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>>13789073
Everything I know is a lie.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:51:33 No.13789217 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788888

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:52:53 No.13789233 Report

Quoted By: >>13789274

Ice is still the shittiest type ever, even more so now that Fairy type exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:54:47 No.13789274 Report

Quoted By: >>13789312

>>13789233
Ice needs to loose its weakness to rock and gain resistances to rock, ground, and grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:55:08 No.13789283 Report

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>>13789064
>(seriously rock being weak to ground barely makes sense)
You do realize what earthquakes do to gravel, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:57:01 No.13789312 Report

Quoted By: >>13789371

>>13789274

>Ice needs to loose its weakness to rock
>Ice weak to rock

>>13789073

>bug isn't weak to ice
What the fuck, is my entire life a lie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:00:13 No.13789371 Report

Quoted By: >>13789411

>>13789312
Ice is weak to rock you fucking dunce check the chart http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Type-Matchup_chart_EN.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:00:45 No.13789381 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788888
WAT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:01:41 No.13789400 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788898

You'd have to make the base power about 40 or less, otherwise Scizor would actually benefit or not see any major loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:02:17 No.13789411 Report

Quoted By: >>13789438

>>13789371

I wasn't saying you were wrong. It's just really surprising and it makes no sense. Sorry for the confusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:03:56 No.13789438 Report

Quoted By: >>13789563

>>13789411
Ahh understandable. Sorry for the dunce comment. I am not sure why ice is weak to rock since ice is that thing that FUCKING DESTROYS rock all the time. I think they threw it like that because they couldnt come up with another good weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:05:27 No.13789468 Report

Quoted By: >>13789483

How did grass and electric get buffs?? I don't remember hearing anything about them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:06:22 No.13789483 Report

Quoted By: >>13789535 >>13789662

>>13789468

Grass immune to powder and spore type moves.

Electric immune to paralysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:09:35 No.13789535 Report

Quoted By: >>13789599

>>13789483
completely missed that update

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:10:58 No.13789563 Report

Quoted By: >>13789685

>>13789438

you mean like through weathering? Also-

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bug_(type)

>7 types resistant to bug

Why do they only do half damage to ghost, fighting, poison and fairy?

They should make bugs deal super effective damage to ground and poison type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:13:13 No.13789598 Report

Quoted By: >>13789668

>>13788898

So I can't reliable STAB a Fairy-type with Heracross.

BIG FUCKING DEAL!

That's what coverage is for numb-nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:13:21 No.13789599 Report

Quoted By: >>13789616

>>13789535

Can ice types get frozen?

Can fire types get burned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:14:20 No.13789616 Report

Quoted By: >>13789647

>>13789599

They haven't been able to for ages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:16:44 No.13789647 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789616
Maybe if they release a reliable freeze move then that will actually matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:17:25 No.13789662 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789483

>Electric immune to paralysis.

PURE BULLSHIT

Its one thing to have abilities that bypass electric attacks but to be immune from a status effect period simply because of your type is trolling.

Seriously it's going to be gen 1 all over again with electric pokemon spamming thunderwave everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:17:43 No.13789668 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789598

>Heracross

I was always more of a fan of pinsir even though.

>Worse move pool
>worse typing
>No stab

It's heracross's unloved older brother

Ever body hates pinse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubXlQ0cGzLc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:18:31 No.13789685 Report

Quoted By: >>13789731

>>13789563
>Ghost, fighting,
These go with that ghost, fighting, dark, psychic, bug interaction they have going on

>Fire, flying
These are because they take double damage from this.

>Fairy
Fairies are pretty powerful in the natural world supposedly so I guess thats why?

>Steel and poison
I have no idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:21:14 No.13789731 Report

Quoted By: >>13789775

>>13789685

>These go with that ghost, fighting, dark, psychic, bug interaction they have going on

So it's suppose to be like a rock paper scizor between those types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:24:27 No.13789775 Report

Quoted By: >>13789817 >>13790033

>>13789731
well its like

bug beats psychic
dark beats psychic
ghost beats psychic

psychic beats fighting
ghost beats fighting

fighting beats dark
bug beats dark

dark beats ghost

pretty shitty game of rock paper scizors i think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:27:27 No.13789814 Report

Quoted By:

bug is meant to be a shitty type, get over it bugfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:27:32 No.13789817 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789775

It's sad even bulbapedia knows that bug types are shit

>Offensively, they are somewhat flawed

>Defensively, Bug types are still flawed

So basically, they have 0 use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:30:22 No.13789856 Report

Quoted By: >>13789896 >>13790477

>faggots caring about balance

GF threw balance out of the window post-gen 4 with the physical / special split. Stop whining if the meta changes. Learn to abuse it to your advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:32:16 No.13789891 Report

Quoted By:

>Dark buff
>Ghost buff

Gengar just got a lot more powerful

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:32:27 No.13789896 Report

Quoted By: >>13790477

>>13789856
The phys special split saved pokemon like Gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:40:57 No.13790033 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789775
Don't forget that Ghost beats Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:50:33 No.13790172 Report

Quoted By: >>13790189

>>13788727
wait, how did grass get buffed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:51:37 No.13790189 Report

Quoted By: >>13790208

>>13790172
spore and powdermoves dont work on them anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:53:22 No.13790208 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790189
huh. that's neat. Also fixes that problem they had at worlds where there wasn't a sleep clause and spore was all over the place. Now just bring ferrothorn.

I wonder if powder snow counts as a powder move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:53:52 No.13790213 Report

Quoted By:

>bug
>nerfed

its not ineffective against ground, people were purporting that, just so you guys know. Check the official chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:54:26 No.13790219 Report

Quoted By: >>13790253

grass is only buffed against itself, its a nerf at the same time and cancels out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:55:32 No.13790239 Report

Quoted By:

bug is indirectly boosted by Grass buff. You will want more bug moves in your team now if you want to use sleep at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:56:11 No.13790253 Report

Quoted By: >>13790272

>>13790219
not really, it depends on how far they want to take this immunity to powder moves.

What exactly counts as a powder move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:57:32 No.13790272 Report

Quoted By: >>13790314 >>13790319

>>13790253
sleep powder, spore, poison powder, stun spore

list end

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:00:02 No.13790314 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790272
Sweet scent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:00:19 No.13790319 Report

Quoted By: >>13790392

>>13790272
what about powder snow? What about sand attack? what about sandstorm?

there's lots of moves that could count as "powder" moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:04:35 No.13790392 Report

Quoted By: >>13790424

>>13790319
who the fuck uses those moves. How is sandstorm "powder" related.

The list I made is what it's going to be 100%, only grass types ever use those moves, so it's a slight nerf to grass types as well. IT cancels itself out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:07:02 No.13790424 Report

Quoted By: >>13790478

>>13790392
>NO I PUT MY FOOT DOWN! I AM RIGHT AND THIS IS A NERF AND I KNOW BETTER THAN GAMEFREAK WHAT GAMEFREAK IS DOING!

Face it anon, Gamefreak just made a whole new classification of moves with this, like they did with punching moves and jaw moves and not all powder moves will be grass.

Stop being such a baby about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:10:15 No.13790477 Report

Quoted By:

>>13789896
Gyarados was pretty high tier to begin with in Gen 3.

>>13789856
They care about balance, but they only balance out the 4v4 doubles metagame. Hence why shit like Encore and Explosion got nerfed, because they were so relevant over there. They just don't care about the American metagame.

That being said, nerfing Bug seemed really weird, because while Bugs were more common in the nip metagame, they weren't good enough to really justify a nerf.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:10:20 No.13790478 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790424
>punching moves
which all have the word "punch" in the name

jaw moves are yet to be seen. It's exceedingly obvious what is effected by iron fist. Exceedingly. Just like the "powder and spore immunity".

>muh sucker punch
read the japanese name of the move, now read the japanese name of fire punch, mach punch, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:19:04 No.13790635 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788888
check dem quints

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:28:02 No.13790743 Report

Quoted By: >>13790845

At least you faggots are still doing better than the fucking ice type.

The worst thing is that Gamefreak has the balls to say that they are making all these changes "for balance" and everything is still the same shit. The thing that were strong are still strong, with some of them even stronger than before and the thing that were shit keep being shit.

And don't get me started on the damn Megas. That's the worst attempt at balance I have ever seen in my whole life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:36:18 No.13790845 Report

Quoted By: >>13790887 >>13790906 >>13791071

>>13790743
We can't say how balanced the game will be before it actually comes out.

In pre-G4, everyone thought that Gengar and Porygon-Z were going to be king, and absolutely no one expected Scizor or Kingdra to be top tier.

In pre-G5, everyone thought that volt switch/u-turn spam was going to dominate the metagame. That didn't keep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:39:07 No.13790887 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790845
scizor was UU before it got bullet punch in platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:39:41 No.13790900 Report

Quoted By:

>Ghost can escape how they want
>Honedge can escape Magnet Pull

I'd feel quite happy if it works like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:39:52 No.13790906 Report

Quoted By: >>13790911

>>13790845
biggest gen 5 hype was

>Excadrill
>keldeo
>terrakion
>genesect
>chandelure

You know how those played out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:40:25 No.13790911 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790906
also persistent weather of course

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:41:55 No.13790937 Report

Quoted By: >>13791022

ice not getting any buff...

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:44:53 No.13790991 Report

Quoted By:

>my three favorite types are ghost, electric and grass
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:46:30 No.13791022 Report

Quoted By: >>13791090 >>13791145 >>13791192

>>13790937
ice now cant be frozen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:49:11 No.13791065 Report

Quoted By: >>13791136

>Electric outright can not be paralyzed
That really makes no sense.
Elecrtic type inflicted paralysis I can understand, but stun spore?

How did others get buffed and nerfed aside from statuses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:49:50 No.13791071 Report

Quoted By:

>>13790845
volt switch and u turn do dominate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:50:53 No.13791090 Report

Quoted By: >>13791142

>>13791022

Such a huge buff
Frozen is the status condition that appears the least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:53:10 No.13791129 Report

Quoted By:

Just got home, can I get link to source to all these changes I'd like to see everything that's being changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:53:31 No.13791136 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791065
Ghost is now immune to trapping moves and no longer resisted by Steel
Bug, Fighting and Dark are resisted by Fairy
Dragon weak to Fairy and doesn't affect it
Fighting, Dragon and Dark are weak to Fairy
Dark no longer resisted by Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:53:41 No.13791142 Report

Quoted By: >>13791175

>>13791090
>yfw new Ice-type move that induces Freeze
>yfw 100% accurate
>yfw Water-types get it instead of Ice-types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:53:45 No.13791145 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791022
ice only Defensive ½× are ice, so using an ice attack on ice type are already pretty stupid

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:55:42 No.13791175 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791142

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:56:23 No.13791192 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791022

Ice didn't get buffed

It has always been this way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 17:58:07 No.13791220 Report

Quoted By: >>13791268

Would you rather have a fairy/ghost
fairy/steel

ghost/steel

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:00:29 No.13791268 Report

Quoted By: >>13791364

>>13791220
>Ghost/Fairy Mismagius

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:05:19 No.13791364 Report

Quoted By:

>>13791268
Maybe mismagius could finally leave UU. It really does deserve better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:14:54 No.13791500 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788888

>Quints confirms
>New tier below NU just for bug types to get some usage

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 18:39:26 No.13791903 Report

Quoted By:

>>13788727
>Electric weak to only one type
>Becomes immune to paralysis
>Steel didn't get nerfed due to being strong vs fairy
>No additional ice resistances

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