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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:27:50 No.13788828 View View Reply Original Report

>Adaptability
>80 BP Bullet Punch after STAB
>suddenly becomes more viable than Extremespeed because it can hit Fairies hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:29:24 No.13788846 Report

Quoted By: >>13788964

no life orb or focus sash though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:29:29 No.13788851 Report

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SCIZOR IS BETTER AT IT
WHO
CARES

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:32:50 No.13788907 Report

Quoted By: >>13788935 >>13788942 >>13788948

>>13788828
On a related note, do you guys think this guy right here will become more useful this gen? Fighting moves against steel, Poison moves against Fairies, Ice punch against Dragons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:34:21 No.13788935 Report

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>>13788907
I think he really needs a sub and bulk up to be more useful so I think he's gonna stay around the same place he was before

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:34:37 No.13788942 Report

Quoted By: >>13789006

>>13788907
>MegaCharizard on every team

lolnope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:34:59 No.13788948 Report

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>>13788907
Stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:35:52 No.13788964 Report

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>>13788846
that's fine dude. the increase in attack will probably go up to 130 and x2 STAB makes up for lack of life orb.

>240 BP Close Combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:38:32 No.13789005 Report

Quoted By: >>13789057

It's 90 after stab. It's calculated kind of funny, at least that's how it works with Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:38:33 No.13789006 Report

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>>13788942
>Implying anyone will use that filth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:39:38 No.13789024 Report

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MegaLucario is basically a Fairy killer.

An attack boost AND Adaptability? Jesus christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:41:55 No.13789057 Report

Quoted By: >>13789130

>>13789005
No, it's 80.

Adaptability just makes the STAB 2x instead of 1.5.

Meaning, Scizor is still better at it if the increase to Lucario's attack isn't big enough to make up for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:46:04 No.13789130 Report

Quoted By: >>13789182

>>13789057
He only needs 15 base attack points more to match Scizor's BP output.

Also, Lucario has a better typing for offense. Both benefiting from adaptability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:49:38 No.13789182 Report

Quoted By: >>13789208

>>13789130
You're also forgetting that almost every Scizor runs Choice Band, which MegaLucario won't be able to make up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:50:45 No.13789208 Report

Quoted By: >>13789239 >>13789254

>>13789182
You're also forgetting that Fighting > Bug type.

So Scizor is stuck as a one trick pony while Mega Lucario and bullet punch rape things and slaughter things with Close Combat.

Scizor was rendered a niche player in one fell swoop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:53:11 No.13789239 Report

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>>13789208
>U-Turn
>using Scizor as a sweeper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:53:44 No.13789254 Report

Quoted By: >>13789310 >>13789337

>>13789208
>Implying Pursuiting the shit out of the Ghost-types everywhere means it still isn't the breast pocketmonster

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:57:01 No.13789310 Report

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>>13789254
>Implying Lucario doesn't have Crunch for ghosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 15:58:16 No.13789337 Report

Quoted By: >>13789628

>>13789254
Nope, it's a one trick pony. But you'll see Scizorfags are still in denial. With the presence of this thing and the nerf to bug and steel, its position will drop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:06:43 No.13789491 Report

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My favorite pokemonis about to get better, aw yeah!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:09:52 No.13789543 Report

Quoted By: >>13789577

I'm pretty ecstatic that Lucario is getting such a nice bump. Let's hope he gets cool moves as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:11:36 No.13789577 Report

Quoted By: >>13789597

>>13789543
I just hope he gets something that makes up for his now neutrality towards Ghost moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:13:09 No.13789597 Report

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>>13789577
He already has crunch, dark pulse, and IIRC Shadow Punch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2013 16:15:13 No.13789628 Report

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>>13789337
It's cool. As a long time Bug type fan, I'm glad usage on Scizor and other "goood" bugs will go down. All the better for me to use.

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