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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:47:07 No.13848721 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13848782 >>13849092 >>13849454 >>13850602 >>13850632

what does /vp/ think about Helioptile?

personally, he is my favorite pokemon this gen so far. I hope he loses that useless normal typing upon evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:48:00 No.13848739 Report

Quoted By: >>13848748 >>13848783

it's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:48:31 No.13848748 Report

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>>13848739
:(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:50:33 No.13848782 Report

Quoted By: >>13848831 >>13848882 >>13849080

>>13848721
>Useless normal typing
>Not wanting normal type STAB
>Not wanting to be immune to best offensive typing this gen
>Being weak to a type walled by the fairy generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:50:34 No.13848783 Report

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>>13848739
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:52:59 No.13848831 Report

Quoted By: >>13849794

>>13848782
>Not wanting to be immune to best offensive typing this gen

Actually, the Ghost buff in this Gen kind of explains why more pokemon are dual-Normal-types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:56:16 No.13848882 Report

Quoted By: >>13850745

>>13848782
normal has no good special moves except for hyper voice, which he will likely not get.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 19:59:55 No.13848926 Report

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It's adorable and I love it.

Will probably be a monster in the rain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:14:13 No.13849080 Report

Quoted By: >>13849443

>>13848782
In theory you are right. It works for Pyroar, for example, who's obviously going to get a lot of Normal type moves, he's already got Echoed Voice and I think Hyper Voice and Extremespeed will be among them.

But Helioptile? It appears to have a Rock basis going on, and has not been shown to know a single Normal type move besides Tail Whip. It's typing would really only make it worse when it comes to Fighting types.

As I said, it can be a good thing, but not in Helioptile's case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:15:00 No.13849092 Report

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>>13848721
I like it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:27:03 No.13849265 Report

Quoted By: >>13849303 >>13850291

Definitely using one on my in-game team.

Hoping it evolves into a Electric/Dragon Jurassic Park-style Dilophosaurus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:29:54 No.13849303 Report

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>>13849265
We can only hope...
Even if it gets another typing besides Electric/Normal I doubt it will be Dragon. Probably Ground, or Rock.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:30:31 No.13849313 Report

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:33:41 No.13849360 Report

Quoted By: >>13849388 >>13849429

Helioptile was the Pokemon that got me excited for Gen 6. Before it was revealed, I honestly didn't give a rat's ass about XY. Now, he's a definite spot on my team. Him, Chespin, and Skrelp. Even though there are a lot of other Pokemon I'd like to use, I'm saving the last three spots in my party for Kalos Pokemon we haven't seen yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:35:57 No.13849388 Report

Quoted By: >>13849429

>>13849360
My team is yours, replacing Chespin with Fennekin and adding a female Meowstic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:38:12 No.13849429 Report

Quoted By: >>13849504

>>13849388
>>13849360
The three with guaranteed spots on my team are Froakie, Helioptile and Litleo. Probably Noivern too, and Honedge if it still turns out good and gets an evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:39:10 No.13849443 Report

Quoted By: >>13849600

>>13849080
There's always STAB Hyper Beam for lols in-game.

Even tough, I think that it's worth having the fightingweakness in exchange for the ghost immunity.

Do we know if he'll bel physical or specialbased, by the way? If he physical then there's some nice toys he'll have in the form of normal moevs..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:39:41 No.13849454 Report

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>>13848721
even if he proves to be useless (dat typing) i'm probably gonna have one anyways. coolest pokemon theyve shown for gen VI so far in my opinion

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:41:14 No.13849496 Report

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I expect it will learn Thunder, and that plus Dry Skin should make it a great counter to rain teams, or a good rain abuser itself. Then with Parabolic Charge healing it, I can definitely see this thing being tough to take take. Hopefully it'll have some bulk to make use of all that healing.

That and it's cute. Definitely going on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:41:32 No.13849504 Report

Quoted By: >>13849622

>>13849429
I was going to use Honedge, but it's a big bummer now that instead of neutral damage he's weak against ghost and dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:47:55 No.13849600 Report

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>>13849443
Hyper Beam with STAB is pretty good, but there is the drawback of skipping the turn afterwards.

And as I said, it is worth it for most cases to get an immunity to Ghost in exchange for weakness to fighting, but I don't think Helioptile will be physical, and not that many Normal moves are special, and of those that are I doubt Helioptile will learn them.

That's why I hope it doesn't turn out Normal in this case. But with Pyroar it's a good thing. The only other possibilities were Fire/Fighting for a super shitstorm and Fire/Dark, which is pointless with Houndour in the same region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:49:36 No.13849622 Report

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>>13849504
Dark is the only one that is really a problem though. If it is fast enough, then the weakness to Ghosts won't matter, it can just use a Ghost move beforehand.

This of course doesn't apply for a non-Ghost type using a Ghost move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 20:54:09 No.13849686 Report

Quoted By: >>13849773 >>13849791

Did anyone else think it was a Mawile pre-evo the very first moment they saw it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:01:17 No.13849773 Report

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>>13849686
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:03:56 No.13849791 Report

Quoted By: >>13850078

>>13849686
only half of /vp/. I really don't/didn't understand it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:03:57 No.13849794 Report

Quoted By: >>13850048

>>13848831
agreed
Perhaps this is Gamefreak's choice to make normal, a type we all thought was doomed, better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:24:25 No.13850048 Report

Quoted By: >>13850099

>>13849794
If they really wanted to do that, they would have made it super effective against another type.

But correct me if I'm wrong, ghost is only resisted by dark now, right? So basically dark and other ghosts can stand up to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:27:33 No.13850078 Report

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>>13849791
The colour scheme is identical, there isn't really anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:28:46 No.13850099 Report

Quoted By: >>13850313

>>13850048
resisted by steel and rock

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:32:00 No.13850162 Report

Quoted By: >>13850191 >>13850319 >>13850383

>GHOST IS THE BEST OFFENSIVE TYPING THIS GEN

would you faggots stop spouting this shit. Let me make this clear. There has not been a revelation of any new offensive ghost moves. As of now offensive ghosts moves are confined to Shadow Ball, a base power of 80, and shadow claw a base power of 70. These are pathetic numbers that even heavy hitters like Gengar, and nasty plot cofagrigus deplore. Shadow claw is so shit no one uses it even for coverage.

Unless there are new moves for ghost type it will still be terribly underwhelming. Draco meteor spam will still be present, so will fire moves, so will fighting moves. I mean, fighting already has an offensive immunity, and yet fighting attackers like mienshao, terrakion, keldeo, heracross dominate their tiers. What will happen to dragons? A nerf, but be careful switching into salamence, you might catch an iron tail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:33:46 No.13850191 Report

Quoted By: >>13850233

>>13850162
>implying Ghost won't get a 100-120 BP move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:36:42 No.13850233 Report

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>>13850191
it could but until it does stop saying that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:41:35 No.13850291 Report

Quoted By:

>>13849265
I heard the noise it makes the second the image loaded.

Awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:43:26 No.13850313 Report

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>>13850099
Rock never resisted Ghost, and Steel won't anymore as of X/Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:44:07 No.13850319 Report

Quoted By: >>13850341

>>13850162
I always run hex
ALWAYS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:46:24 No.13850341 Report

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>>13850319
not a sweeper's move, but Im sure it's viable. Maybe not on gengar because of how valuable sub disable is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:50:02 No.13850383 Report

Quoted By: >>13850438

>>13850162
Having a ghost and a fighting move will give you unresisted coverage...
Dragon 2; Ghostly boogaloo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 21:54:50 No.13850438 Report

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>>13850383
>muh unresisted!

go back to gen III, no one cares if you can hit everything neutrally when youre running HP fighting and shadow ball because your damage output is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:05:10 No.13850602 Report

Quoted By: >>13850983

>>13848721
>I hope he loses that useless normal typing upon evolution.

Litleo doesn't lose its when it evolves into Pyroar.

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:07:30 No.13850632 Report

Quoted By: >>13850650

>>13848721
I thought little of it at first but this Drawfag made me love it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:08:53 No.13850650 Report

Quoted By:

>>13850632
HOLY FUCK KAWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:09:01 No.13850654 Report

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I adore it! Definitely one of the best so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:11:09 No.13850686 Report

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I love it, honestly my favorite pokemon of Gen 6 so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:11:30 No.13850690 Report

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>supposed to gain energy by lying out in the sun
>ability hurts it in sunlight

What. The. Fuck.

I really hope it's got a second Ability that actually makes sense, and a decent evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:14:25 No.13850745 Report

Quoted By: >>13851002

>>13848882
>normal has no good special moves except for hyper voice

Since when has Tri-Attack been terrible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:31:07 No.13850983 Report

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>>13850602
>muh patterns

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:32:43 No.13851002 Report

Quoted By: >>13851022 >>13854007

>>13850745
I forgot that, actually. But we don't know if it can learn it.
Any others I forgot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:34:21 No.13851022 Report

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>>13851002
Now that I think that might not have even been my post... I ca't remember, but it sounds like some shit I would say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:36:29 No.13851053 Report

Quoted By: >>13851073

I love Elikiteru (I hate the English name).
That beautiful typing.
>all those movess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:38:09 No.13851073 Report

Quoted By: >>13851115

>>13851053
Why do you hate the english name so much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:40:41 No.13851115 Report

Quoted By: >>13851234

>>13851073
I don't know. I just think it sounds dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2013 22:46:32 No.13851234 Report

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>>13851115
ur dum lol fukken #rek'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Sep 2013 01:40:40 No.13854007 Report

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>>13851002
Well, it probably can't learn Tri-Attack. The only other special ones are Razor Wind, Spit Up, Uproar and that's it. You know, I never realized how much Normal is lacking in Special moves like Rock.

Unrelated to the thread:
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Dunsparce

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