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>>13875628
Honchkrow is pretty mediocre now and with that new weakness it's going to be even more mediocre, specially now that it can't spam Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:23:42 No.13875712 Report

Quoted By: >>13875728

>>13875685
It has a 125 atk, access to roost and brave bird along with moxie. That's never going NU.

He's far from great, but something that strong would wreck in NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:25:46 No.13875728 Report

Quoted By: >>13875746

>>13875684
Because it can't spa one of its best STAB moves and has a new weakness added to its already shtty defensive typing.

>>13875712
>implying honchkrow has enough bulk to make good use of roost
>implying honchkrow isn't also slow as fuck and weak to stealth rock
>implying things with 120+ attack don't exist in NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:26:24 No.13875734 Report

Quoted By: >>13875749

Full powered Brave Bird

Steel Wing over Superpower

Dark hitting Steels neutral and heat wave.

Nothing will happen to him, He'll stay as a mediocre UU poke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:27:45 No.13875746 Report

Quoted By: >>13875776

>>13875728

Nothing with 70 speed, 120+ attack, and Moxie with STAB Sucker Punch and Brave Bird exist in NU, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:27:52 No.13875749 Report

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>>13875734
>implying honchkrow's special attack is good
>steel wing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:29:55 No.13875776 Report

Quoted By: >>13875827

>>13875746
71 speed with 100/52/52 defenses is pretty bad, even for NU.
Also, there's Braviary, but it doesn't has Sucker Punch and Moxie, but it has Bulk Up, which is better than Moxie anyway because of the defense boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:33:33 No.13875827 Report

Quoted By: >>13875861

>>13875776

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Bulk Up costs a turn. Moxie kills the opponent (not hard with STAB Sucker Punch and Brave Bird) and gets the attack boost. He also has Steel Wing, Superpower, and Heat Wave.

You have no place in this argument if you do not realize how valuable a turn is. It would be like me saying a Pokemon with Rock Polish is better than a Pokemon with Speed Boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 17:36:00 No.13875861 Report

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>>13875827
>steel wing
>honchkrow's special attack
>good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2013 18:29:36 No.13876329 Report

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>>13875583
Choiceband honch still packs a punch. We're not even sure if Fairies will really be a necessity to teams, I mean there are surefire counters for dragon and dark pokes

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