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Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:24:40 No.13900654 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13900682 >>13900725 >>13901041 >>13903470 >>13905473 >>13905676

/vp/ water and trumpet jokes aside, in what ways could EMERALD as a whole, improve?
Maybe the region I guess. Maybe add secret islands to make it seem like an archipelago?
More routes?
Just taking in a bunch of opinions on this Emerald edit I'm doing.
thanks.

>Pic somewhat related
it's route 129 one of the routes i'm going to change because the whole bottom right side is fucking terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:27:00 No.13900682 Report

Quoted By: >>13900711

>>13900654
bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:29:03 No.13900711 Report

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>>13900682
bump #2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:29:25 No.13900715 Report

Quoted By: >>13900763 >>13900779

More dive spots with more things to do under there. Hell if I know what else you could do though, I guess just cave/whatever exploring. Can't really think of anything else though, maybe increasing the encounter rate for Chimechoes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:29:40 No.13900721 Report

Quoted By: >>13900760 >>13900763 >>13906212

>lel water
>le ebin pokeman may may

There were already a bunch of hidden dive spots. No ones fault that casuals didnt look for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:29:49 No.13900725 Report

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>>13900654
Even though it's a still image I can see the water moving like it's Merriweather Post Pavilion or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:32:17 No.13900758 Report

Quoted By: >>13905296 >>13905335

To be fair, isn't that corner where Mirage Island pops up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:32:25 No.13900760 Report

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>>13900721
The dive spots need to be more than a square with one item hidden in it for them to be interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:32:33 No.13900763 Report

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>>13900715
yes, I added a ton of underwater routes that connect to each other and lead to different places and in a lot of custom routes. It's like a maze. I really like the underwater.

>>13900721
cool, but not exactly what i was asking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:33:52 No.13900779 Report

Quoted By: >>13900834

>>13900715
I like this idea, adding dive spots and caves.

In addition, how about a small tropical island. Maybe like Master Roshi's place. Make sure each of these places have interesting or unique pokes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:37:47 No.13900834 Report

Quoted By: >>13900888

>>13900779
well I'm importing some music from liquid crystal, crystal dust, and some LOZ music and inputting them in routes.

All the pokemon are available and a lot of pokemon like bedrill and relicanth got buffs.
so did trainers and gym leaders but not a huge level creep but not underpowered crap like fighting zigzagoons right before the final gym. the champion and elite four and the rivals get buffs.

I also put gen 4 and 5 moves but they replaced a lot of stupid moves like snatch, etc.

I was thinking of moving a couple things like the trainer tower and putting it into a route you have to go through.

also i was thinking of moving the regis location so you actually have to find it.

i'm definitely going to make a lot more routes and caves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:42:49 No.13900888 Report

Quoted By: >>13900912

>>13900834

Is this your first hack? I'd be careful fooling around with Emerald if I were you.

Also, do you have LaZ and Diego's permission for their music?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:44:47 No.13900912 Report

Quoted By: >>13900974

>>13900888
I was going to ask LaZ and Diego actually.
Technically, no it is not my first hack but I've already have edited a Crystal version and finished it. But it's basically just buffs for crap pokemon and a better level creep.

I've actually messed around with ROMS and crap for about a year and four months and now I feel like I want to improve Emerald.

Why be careful fooling around with Emerald?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:45:30 No.13900924 Report

Quoted By: >>13900948

>Underwater secret bases
>Better dive exclusive pokemon. Not just clamperl
>Improved contests
>An island that just had berry patches so you can farm poffin ingredients better
>Faster surf speed/surf use

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:47:28 No.13900948 Report

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>>13900924
I'm going to see how I can edit this contest thing.
I don't think I'm experienced enough to edit something like that.. I'm not even sure if it's possible??

>an island with just berry patches
wow I didn't even think about this... this is a great idea and I will definitely put this into the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:49:48 No.13900974 Report

Quoted By: >>13900992 >>13901060

>>13900912

It's very fragile compared to the other 3rd gen ROMs. If you don't do too much, you'll be fine. I don't think adding a few features will hurt the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:52:14 No.13900992 Report

Quoted By: >>13901051

>>13900974
Really?
Like what exactly?
I'm doing Emerald because there is actually things you can do after the game is over.
Battle frontier, trainer tower, navel rock, etc.

I mean I'm not going to put like lvl 100 mewtwos in route 101 and add random tiles where it doesn't even exist... I've seen the custom towns some people make and quite frankly... if it's not overdesigned, it's crappy and makes no sense...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:57:05 No.13901041 Report

Quoted By: >>13901060

>>13900654
I honestly just hated Hoenn because most of the Pokemon were just, >hur durr I have a counterpart.

My advice to you is to focus on not having things like Volbeat/Illumise, Solrock/Lunatone, etc. Too much god damn double battle gimickery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:57:24 No.13901045 Report

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MORE TRUMPETS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:57:52 No.13901051 Report

Quoted By: >>13901096

>>13900992

I'm honestly not too familiar on the subject, this is just what I've learned on ROMHacking sites. I'm more of a FireRed hacker, and that's what I learned as to why Emerald shouldn't be hacked for newcomers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 04:58:15 No.13901060 Report

Quoted By: >>13901113

>>13900974
also what do you think would "break the game"

>>13901041
Well I can't exactly "leave" a pokemon out of a pokemon game since my goal is to have every pokemon catchable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:02:43 No.13901096 Report

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>>13901051
I see.
Well I guess as long as I don't do something extremely crazy, It'll be fine.
and probably I'll get a bunch of backups

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:05:09 No.13901113 Report

Quoted By: >>13901148

>>13901060
Ah, nvm. Disregard me and carry on. Good luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:07:22 No.13901148 Report

Quoted By: >>13901163

>>13901113
I kind of see what you mean though.
I actually buffed volbeat and illumise and I'm debating whether they should get an electric type secondary type...
but thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:09:03 No.13901163 Report

Quoted By: >>13901209

>>13901148

Give one fire and the other electric. Give one flamethrower and the other thunderbolt. Give Illumise Tail Glow. Watch rape occur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:09:43 No.13901170 Report

Quoted By: >>13901209

I guess off the top off my head-
>better selection of electric pokemon
>a lot more islands, maybe something like sevii islands
>more variety of pokemon while surfing. like more than tentacools and wingulls
>may/brendan doesn't quit
Other than that some of the kind of shit that Gen 5 had in postgame.
Another crazy idea I had- you know the hiker that said that if he can't go through Verdanturf Tunnel, he'll just hike over it? Well in a remake, the tunnel has collapsed, and you have to hike over it, and battle hikers and shit on top of there. It can be a part of that route on the map.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:13:35 No.13901209 Report

Quoted By: >>13901308

>>13901163
that sounds like a great idea thanks!

>>13901170
I was thinking of making a small route climbing the top of Sootopolis.
that sounds like a good idea too.
I already changed the water pokemon selection
>more electric pokemon
I gotta work with what i got gens 1-3 but It's not too bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:22:30 No.13901299 Report

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crazy trick house levels
with level 100 pokemon trainers and master balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:23:02 No.13901308 Report

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>>13901209
I also thought of that for Sootopolis as well.
I was thinking for a hypothetical remake/sequel, so other Gen pokemon could be included. Fire types too, the only Gen 3 non-starter fire types are Camerupt, which takes a while to get it strong enough (I wound up boxing a Numel because I got impatient) and Torkoal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:27:19 No.13901346 Report

Quoted By: >>13901379 >>13905210

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=7465618&postcount=163

do it faggot

remember to

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=7661786&postcount=193

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:30:01 No.13901379 Report

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>>13901346

wait shit

ignore the second link, the first post is updated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 10:46:00 No.13903470 Report

Quoted By:

>>13900654
Seriously? All the fucking water. Just make it canon that Groudon dried shit up or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:17:45 No.13905210 Report

Quoted By:

>>13901346
definitely doing that
thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:26:12 No.13905296 Report

Quoted By:

>>13900758
Nah. Mirage Island shows up just east of Pacifidlog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:30:22 No.13905335 Report

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>>13900758
no Mirage island appears to the left of this route.
this kind of crap is all over emerald.
most of the maps are all water and you could only navigate through a little bit.

that gap might seem small but in game it's really big

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:41:39 No.13905473 Report

Quoted By: >>13905577 >>13905837

>>13900654
>remixed music (trumpets are ok i gues)
>Ever Grande City should be the new host for Battle Frontier.
>Make a few new routes and a Safari Zone.
>Integrate PSS with VS Seeker.
>All overworld areas in 3D with B/W graphics.
>Pokemon battles in 3D with Colosseum/XD graphics.
>So pretty much like FF7.

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imertalklr !1cq5mZKmyY Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:43:58 No.13905508 Report

Quoted By: >>13905567

fucking faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:49:42 No.13905567 Report

Quoted By:

>>13905508
xDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 15:50:45 No.13905577 Report

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>>13905473
>like ff7
you're fucking kidding right?
horrendous

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 16:00:43 No.13905676 Report

Quoted By: >>13906175

>>13900654

>include the unused islands on the Hoenn map to create a few more towns/cities.
>have a Gym where you have to use Dive to reach the Leader.
>have more battles with Wally and Brendan/May

A personal hope for the game:
>expand Dewford Town to include a route or two south of Granite Cave - make the whole island traversable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 16:18:05 No.13905837 Report

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>>13905473
u wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 16:44:22 No.13906064 Report

Quoted By: >>13906175

Expand on the empty areas on the map first.
You could do a swamp area on the shortcut between Oldale and the trickhouse.
A forrest area south of Littleroot accessable after beating the 2nd gym. An area above Vendanturf tunnel (devote it to flying and fire types). An area right after Fortree citty with deeper jungle and eventually an icy mountain.

But before that check if there's a good rombase for your project.
Something that organises the data, has the phys/spec split and added slots for the moves that can be done with the regular engine is the thing that you need.
After that you still need OW scripts for events.
You'll probably need to expand the ROM for that to work properly.
Projects like ROMhacks shouldn't be taken lightly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 16:54:54 No.13906175 Report

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>>13906064
i just implemented the Phys/spec split like five minutes ago
I'm meh at script editing, the most i can do at the moment is make a trainer battle script and a random person talking script.

>>13905676
I was actually going to expand Dewford town at the cost of making the gym stronger so you ACTUALLY have to train rather than sweep the gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 16:58:26 No.13906212 Report

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>>13900721
And they were boring as all heavens

Most of them were just a tiny area with an item.

Unova only had one diving spot and that one spot was easily more interesting than anything of RSE underwater bar the Regi cave

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 17:00:46 No.13906246 Report

Quoted By: >>13906336

Throw in a few more underwater cavern mazes and maybe an abandoned town/island/lighthouse in the middle of nowhere and it'd be more interesting. Abandoned stuff are cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 17:09:46 No.13906336 Report

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>>13906246
Yeah, fill it with Shuppets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2013 17:23:00 No.13906479 Report

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Add more land and variety to the routes without going overboard.
Add more underwater routes and undersea variety as well.
(Sharpedo, Wailmer, Gyarados above water)
(Clamperl line, Staryu line, Wailord, Horsea & Seadra underwater)
The main problem with Hoenn's water was its lack of variety.

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