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Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:04:32 No.13936398 View View Reply Original Report

>gen 2 introduces a new type that is immune and strong against the best type
>that type becomes worthless within a gen

Are Dragons finished?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:07:51 No.13936439 Report

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but it also introduced another type that resisted psychic and buffed bug and ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:08:45 No.13936452 Report

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>>13936398
le wat

GSC guy

GSC guy Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:09:06 No.13936458 Report

Quoted By: >>13936482 >>13936514

Let me tell you that this is absolute bullshit. Starmie was OU for 5 gens, Alakazam and Exeggutor are huge threats in the Gen 2 OU metagame, and Mewtwo is the strongest mon in Gen 2 Ubers. So please stop talking shit when having no idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:11:15 No.13936482 Report

Quoted By: >>13936555

>>13936458
>starmie lived off its boltbeam combo
>mewtwo had the most ridiculous stats and movepool
>alakazam had great stats and movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:13:28 No.13936514 Report

Quoted By: >>13936616

>>13936458
>calls himself GSC guy
>thinks alakazam is a "huge" threat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:15:28 No.13936546 Report

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But Normal was the best type.

GSC guy

GSC guy Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:16:22 No.13936555 Report

Quoted By: >>13936637

>>13936482
funny thing is that barely any starmies in gen 2 carried boltbeam
funny thing is that all of the ones i mentioned have psychic in their standard movepool
funny thing is that alakazams stats were not considered "great" in gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:18:26 No.13936581 Report

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You can't press the button anymore, at least.

Dragons deserved it, though, gen IV was only rescued by Smogon intervention and five overpowered dragons coming down from Ubers to join OU just ruined everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:19:05 No.13936593 Report

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>>13936398

no, dragons are not finished.
1 immunity!=automatic good

dragons still have plenty of things to work with. They also inherently have better stats than the fairies we have seen whose stats we have already known. Honestly the only fairy I can see going to OU right now is Mega mawile, and that's only if Smogon doesn't give megas their own tier

Dragons may not be on top any more, but by no means are they finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:19:09 No.13936595 Report

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In gen one, nothing resisted psychic except for itself. Which meant that if you could grab any psychic pokemon and expect it to pretty much rip through any pokemon your opponent sent out. Ghost and Dragon dragon were similar but at the time had no actual strong moves to use (thats besides the fact there was really only one ghost and one dragon).

When dark and steel came in to resist psychic however, there became more options to switch into ghost types. Especially with steel resisting so much it was pretty easy to block psychic. And since psychic actually didnt really super effective that much you now had to actually look at what psychic pokemon were worth using. Alakazam had insane special attack and good speed. Starmie had amazing speed and gained a really good movepool etc. While pokemon like Hypno really didnt gain all that much and simply lost the ability to hit anything that switched in for neutral damage.

This is speculation, and I havent even really gone over the fact that most dragons are in OU or just powerful bastards simply because their outrageous stats and move pool build them that way. I think people are over reacting abit at fairy types ruining dragons but then again we dont really know how strong they will be or how common their attacks will be so you really cant do much else but speculate i guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:20:00 No.13936616 Report

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>>13936514
well, alakazam does have extremely minmaxed stats which is not the best for the gen 2 metagame, but psychic + elemental punches + recover and being able to live pretty much every special attack anyways does make it a threat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:21:30 No.13936637 Report

Quoted By: >>13936701

>>13936555
>best SA in the game outside Mewtwo
>outsped by 5 pokemon in the entire game, most of which specialize in speed
>stats aren't great

Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:26:11 No.13936692 Report

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Thing is Dragon type usually have
A huge as fuck movepool
Really high stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:26:47 No.13936701 Report

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>>13936637 in a bulky meta like gen 2 a 45 base defense and low hp stat is not great, it is this huge threat like you mentioned under certain circumstances (if you manage to bring it in safely). Alakazam is great if you aren't facing a fullstall team, there is a reason it's "only" BL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2013 16:30:50 No.13936754 Report

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what are you doing here niggy

Nerffie

Nerffie Sun 22 Sep 2013 18:24:56 No.13938340 Report

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Dark was always shit
Dragon isn't good because it's Dragon.
Chomp and Pals™ will still shit on the game by virtue of being better than everything else.

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