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Bug Gym leader survey will be out sometime soon hopefully sorry about the long wait! Anonymous
Have a Route 4 concept to kick off the thread
Anonymous
Reposting the suggestion from last thread to make an unofficial survey for plot and backstory elements, rather than surveying full plot ideas.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13961201 it seems too foresty to me, but i might borrow a few elements if thats alright.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
Walk into the thread like whaddup I gotta big sprite
Anonymous
>>13961128 Oh fuck i forgot that guy exists. Good idea.
>The shaman would be the closest to knowing the Spirit trio and Quetzar actually exist, and would give you hints to finding the trio post-game. Perhaps his gym would reference Xochi/Xotec as well
And Xotec needs a better name Anonymous
>>13961230 Most routes in Pokemon are very foresty.
Personally, it has a Route 101/102/103 feeling to it
Anonymous
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>>13961240 Thanks for correcting all my typos. I can't type very well.
Anonymous
>>13961240 Repost because Dunky hated that name ;_;
http://pastebin.com/bnsmaR8h Anonymous
>>13961269 we suck at choosing fitting names. Anonymous
I fffinally finished Macuarrior for the guy who requested it. Aaaaaaaa hope it's okay.
Anonymous
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>>13961234 Isn't the bluebelt Iguadium a prime case for sprites as minor redesign? We should survey it before changing it back.
It's been long since news from rat. Hope condition didn't worsen. Sam Spade !XozFbW8qqw
>>13961293 Taomarin or coloured Roy next?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13961253 While this is true, i was going in mor of a route 12/16... well, route.
Anonymous
>>13961269 stop crying over dunky he could come back if wanted to it's not like he died. the only person to blame for his absence is him. don't mourn the lazy. his plot isn't even good. at all.
Anonymous
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>>13961320 >his plot isn't even good. at all. That's harsh. But everything else you say is absolutely correct.
Anonymous
>>13961293 Do chimcholio next
Sketcher
>>13961293 Fantastic anon! Thanks for doing this, you are a fantastic artist and your art is lovely.
Anonymous
>>13961291 No, we're great at choosing great names.
A hoard of idiots vote everything because "muh aztecs" when the aztec weren't even south american. They're uneducated imbeciles.
Anonymous
>>13961311 I'll be colouring Royjibiv next I think but first,
some League. >>13961358 I can't find a Mon called Chimcholio. Is it Chimpoca, the little blue monkey?
>>13961375 Thank you! I'll be sure to colour all the sketches I do and post them in the thread on the forum eventually too!
Anonymous
>>13961234 Posting this from foolz for a semblance of progress.
Anonymous
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>>13961394 Ur mom was an uneducated imbecile when I fucked her last night.
Anonymous
>>13961394 the bottom part of your post contradicts the top.
Also Erion.
Anonymous
>>13961394 the game doesn't take place in south america
Anonymous
>>13961423 The shading on the head could use a little work and it could be a little darker.
Anonymous
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>>13961412 >I can't find a Mon called Chimcholio. Is it Chimpoca, the little blue monkey? hue it's an old joke.
Anonymous
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>>13961412 Leukoon would be absolutely fantastic. In your own time though.
Pueblant or Enigmite, or Coltergeist are a few I can think of that rarely get any love or attention. Just hints, not requests, btw.
Anonymous
>>13961437 Okay let me rephrase it;
We're great at coming up with great names, but uneducated imbeciles vote for shitty ones because muh aztec, without having any idea WHAT they're voting for. For instance; Xotec couldn't be less Aztec and still be ancient American.
Dunky can correct me if I'm wrong, but the culture its from predates the aztecs by thousands of years. That's like naming something after the Eiffel tower, when it's intended to be the tower of Piza
Anonymous
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>>13961445 I can't sprite, just reposted one of those sprites everyone said they rememberd but was only posted once.
As far as I remember, it was the first wip, so somebody cleaning it up would be nice.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>13961442 The western half of our region is literally the andes mountains and the Amazon. It's partly central american, but the design of the region doesn't convey it much.
>inb4 desert I mean more with shape than anything. Kyushu doesn't have a giant desert either.
Anonymous
>>13961476 it's not from south america or north america
it's from uroboros. it's a pokemon.
Sam Spade !XozFbW8qqw
Anonymous
>>13961476 >That's like naming something after the Eiffel tower, when it's intended to be the tower of Piza like erion being named after the iron age when its intended to be the industrial age. Anonymous
>>13961503 , but the culture the deity ts based on is from predates the Aztecs*
>>13961520 Also that. Erindus is a perfect name.
Erig more like it hue hue Anonymous
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>>13961534 We can still battle the oil rig even though it's not a Pokemon, right?
Right?
Anonymous
>>13961534 what diety? whatever it is it's not in our dex.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13961234 Cain't hep mahsef. Gotta mess.
Anonymous
im rarely happy with how my own stuff works out
Anonymous
>>13961570 It's based on el dorado, which is quimbayan and muisca in origin.
The muisca also were the people who had the El Dorado myth.
Dunky said it enough figured I'd look it up.
>>13961320 >dunky >lazy He spent the last four months doing everything from an ipod, the fact that he did anything should speak otherwise. Im torn on that backstory though
Anonymous
>>13961570 I think you're trolling at this point, or something.
Xotec shouldn't be named after the Aztecs, because its not based on an aztec god.
Anonymous
Sofia's overworld sprites still need to be updated. She also needs proper surfing and biking sprites like Simon has.
Anonymous
>>13961616 What did you mess? It looks more squashed now.
>>13961648 Thanks for changing the frame. Now all you need to do is center the type information and it's good to go.
Anonymous
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>>13961648 What the hell is up with that Cubzero? Was that an old sprite?
Anonymous
>>13961476 not dunky, but this is true. xotec was based on the quimbaya and muisca culture, specifically their goldwork (the el dorado legend comes from the muiscas btw). if you want more examples just look up museo del oro on google images.
Anonymous
>>13961676 people can suggest new names and we can survey them. this much should be obvious.
>>13961651 why did he post from an ipod? nigga should buy a computer.
>>13961678 wouldn't the surfing sprite just be her on a surfboard? wait have we decided what kind of surf sprite we are gonna have?
Anonymous
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>>13961651 Ahh, thanks for clarifying that for me, by the way. (I'm
>>13961676 , though i dont think thats relevant.) Couldn't find anything specifically mentioning it on the wiki.
Though I prefer Eidoll, Doradol would be the best name, though it needs something to connect it with Xochi in some way. Also, we have -two- different dragons named Quetz, which "Quetzal" means feathered, whereas Coatl is the serpent. I only know this because of Coatlicue, and well, quetzal is a colorful bird. ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13961723 he meant on the blob, but eventually a well liked idea is for us to be able to surf on pokemon ow's
Anonymous
>>13961750 why are its feet so stupid
what fighting style is it supposed to use?
Anonymous
>>13961723 Idk ask him. I heard his laptop broke though. Dont think he was as rich as his namefuck image suggested.
>>13961719 This.
>>13961723 Only if a survey says we should. Macabrao, the portuguese word for bastard, is up for it too
Anonymous
>>13961752 >surfing on Overworld's Yes, let's release this game in 2019, just in time for Generation 11
Anonymous
>>13961752 The surfing sprite and the blob sprite can be separate. Mostly just the crouched down pose is what I mean. I got all of Simon's sprites set up and game-ready today and I was about to do the same with Sofia until I realized how out of date they were...
I miss Wedges and Nondell Anonymous
>>13961694 actually, i figured we needed some space to add something so it doesnt count as a repost
(like that little pokeball at the bottom right of the current op)
Anonymous
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13961750 Oops. Horn of the right one got fucked up. Fixed.
Anonymous
>>13961750 Probably because of the changes on the head and arms. I can't put my finger on it, but I can't unsee it being more squashed than the right.
Anonymous
>>13961769 honestly i think we should just have a few different surf sprite options. it wouldn't be very hard. i could do it even though i suck.
we'd just have to split all surfable pokemon into groups and each group would have a basic outline.
fish - reptiles - birds - etc.
Anonymous
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i would prefer her laying down on the shadow
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13961761 Punch Things In The Face Style.
Anonymous
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>>13961774 Oh, good idea then. Nothing to add.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
>>13961769 would be prety easy edit of all the surfable pokemon ow's. anyhow, just a thought
>>13961773 ah. i miss them as well. Poor nondell
Anonymous
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>>13961764 Macabra you mean. Macabra really needs to be name changed to Macabrao though.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13961761 >>13961789 It never fails. The only things people say are wrong with the sprites are things I just don't see.
Anonymous
>>13961814 Waht happened to Nondell?
Hit by a bloody car? Anonymous
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>>13961814 Just a thought though - what if someone tries to surf with a Pokemon that cant normally know it?
Anonymous
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>>13961839 It's better with the different horn, so it's just the way I see things. Don't bother. This time I'm fine with you not seeing it.
Other times it's kinda frustrating to be honest Anonymous
>>13961843 No that was Rat. Nondell just went AWOL over a month ago and hasn't been back since.
Anonymous
>>13961797 >fish - reptiles - birds - etc. ....that's actually doable
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13961867 Nondell AWOL, Rat ded, and Dunky quit.
Man fuck this month
Anonymus !30fAJFel4o
>>13961867 >>>13961723 Maybe they just blocked 4chan for a little until X and Y came out?
Anonymous
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>>13961867 Oh? Hope he'll return then. Getting a break may not be a bad thing anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13961920 yeah...and it would just be black and dark grey with very slight dimensionality. compared to everything else in this project it is a minor thing. i'm surprised gamefreak has never given it any effort.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
Anonymous
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>>13961922 Aw. I really like it.
Anonymous
>>13961867 The joke was probably that Rat was hardly the first person this happened to.
Moose burned his hand (and several other drawing-preventative injuries, within a short time frame), someone got hit by a car (not as severely as rat iirc)... etc.
>>13961797 You're a genious.
Anonymous
>>13961930 What has Dunky even done in the last three months for people to be morning him in the first place?
Anonymous
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>>13961955 Actually, it may be because the dark blue reaches up so far. Try angling it a bit more and lowering it slightly.
maybe Anonymous
>>13961932 maybe they got banned?
Anonymus !30fAJFel4o
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>>13961986 Maybe? I have no idea.
Anonymous
>>13961922 can you work on the koblin line rather than the starters
Anonymous
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>>13961978 mourning. Fuck.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13961953 I like this idea. a lot actually.
Anonymous
>>13961978 Survey, do the census, help with plots and mons, redesigns, stats, movesets, he did a lot. He just didn't namefag but he was very active
Anonymous
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>>13961797 Know it isn't high priority, but it would be nice if an overworld wizard could do that. Maybe after the demo pile is done
Anonymous
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>>13962015 >>13961978 He also criticqued and commented on anything and everything he saw, and participated in many discussions (but not ones that turned into heated shitstorms)
Anonymous
>>13961978 yeah this. i like the guy and i don't believe that people need to necessarily sprite or anything to contribute. as long as you are taking surveys at least to me you are a valuable member of our community. but i don't think any single person needs to be mourned. if i stop posting tomorrow, and i should, nobody needs to say anything.
just please keep moving forward so my death won't be in vain.
Anonymous
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>>13961978 All of this
>>13962015 and he helped a lot behind the scenes and gave guidance to a lot of people. He helped a lot as an anon, its a shame he'll only be remembered from his days as a tripfriend.
Anonymous
>>13961797 For flying and surfing, I'd almost prefer if we saw and controlled the pokemon instead of seeing you ride a blob. Like a reverse of what happens - you glow, turn into a little black blob, and disappear on the back of the pokemon.
Anonymous
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>>13962032 By Grabthar's hammer, you shall be avenged.
Anonymous
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>>13962050 Seeing the Pokemon would be cool, but controlling it is going too far from gf style
Anonymous
>>13962000 Someone else was doing Koblin in the previous thread.
Anonymous
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>>13962082 so then koberus
Anonymous
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>>13962032 Thats not true at all. Theres a difference between actively contributing (spriting, mapping, etc.), having no talent but still contributing (surveying), taking surveys and leaving HELPFUL critique, and taking surveys and leaving NO critique. The latter isn't helpful in any way and I know for a fact there's a large portion of the project who falls into that category.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
Would it be valuable if another person started taking up the slack on surveys? I could sign up to SurveyMonkey.
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>>13962050 I know we cant, wont, and I doubt Essentials would make it possible, but maybe
in gen 2 I'd like to see Flying routes.
Note; I think XY has these, or something. I dont follow it, so if it does thats pure coincidence and I just thought of it. I know Fly is supposed to be a quick escape button, but I kinda want that to be Teleport's thing (retooled to how Fly works) and make fly similar to that Pelipper game in the Dream World, except instead of damage balls or clouds slowing you down, you get encoutners (immediate ones showing overworld sprites?) or encounter-tiles (clouds acting as grass)
Anonymous
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>>13962113 Talk to the tripluminati
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962113 I say this mostly because sprite surveys are running so slow.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13962113 We could always use more surveyors, although I'm not sure what niche we need surveying right now. I've got a multiple sprites survey coming out tomorrow (I was just waiting on that Iguadium).
Anonymous
>>13962143 Can you add the belt one as a redesign? It would be a simple yes/no question.
And speaking of niche.
Plot Though everyone is scared of it. Surveyors to plot is like spriters to back sprites.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13962140 See
>>13962143 . I was just waiting on that Iguadium so I could get this done and I think Gun could start confirmation. Its never a good idea to run more than one survey of something at the same time.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13962177 Sir Vay has kinda sorta been doing it, and I know Dualonymous would love to do it. But as for your question, I guess that would work.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962143 Is there any reason we shouldn't survey as many sprites as we can?
And the Iguadium sprite is wiki'd.
Terra !4dLvBoNE..
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>>13962140 >>13962113 Before you said sprite surveys, i was just about to suggest asking me to take some on.
I would love to get back into the survey game but I have nothing to survey. The stat issue is basically solved now. And I will wring your goddamn necks if you bring it up and its not as bad as Magnitogre.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
>>13962221 Kind of. The more questions in a survey, the less people make it to the end of a survey before quitting, and if there's more than one survey people get confused and won't take one.
Anonymous
>>13962197 dualonymous seems very argumentative and biased i don't know if he should be surveying
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962238 What if they were numbered, or said "Cont'd"? Has there been a problem before of people not being able to discern between surveys?
Anonymous
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>>13962291 The only thing biased I've noticed is that he dislikes the old surveys. For a new surveyor I wouldnt call that a bad thing.
but plot is a sensitive subject.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13962291 I think he was just a little too eager at first. Talking to him it seems like he wants the best for the project and everyone in it, but you'd have to take it up with him.
>>13962296 Usually a "Part 2" or "continued" sees significantly less votes than the part 1. And they usually get less votes in general, probably because some of the voters who care less see it as more work to get involved with a 2-part survey
Anonymous
Why were these replaced with thicker-outline versions?
Sir Vay !yqity7zNyM
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>>13962296 the ability ones even have silly names in the link. but one still has like a dozen more votes than the other
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13962177 Plot suggestions are a lot harder to keep track of than images.
Anonymous
>>13962354 Somebody argued that it was GF style to have multi-thickness backsprites and replaced them all I think. In my opinion, regardless of whether or not GF does it, it is pointless and only detracts from the aesthetic quality of the sprite. Fitting shading and drawing style in other ways for the sprite does more than enough to make up for variable line thickness being foregone.
Sketcher
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>>13962113 I'd love another surveyor! I don't run the sprite surveys, though, so I guess you'd have to organize it with them.
Anonymous
>>13962570 So how/why did they get replaced before going to survey?
Some GF sprites use it, but not all of them and certainly not randomly.
Anonymous
>>13962620 ...is it really a big enough deal to survey?
Come on. This is exactly what that one guy was talking about the other day about the project being bogged down by surveys.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962570 Did that guy actually replace them on the wiki? God damn it.
Anyway, Here's an adjusted Koblin sprite. Got rid of DAT PILLOWSHADING.
Terra !4dLvBoNE..
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>>13962620 >how Its a wiki.
>why It's a wiki and someone thought they were above us all
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962630 It sets a precedent of saying fuck it to everyone else and just doing whatever you want without consulting the project. It's a simple yes/no survey anyway.
Should we have thick-lined backsprites? Y/N
Anonymous
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>>13962630 When it's a noticeable change that distracts from the quality of the sprite, it is a big deal.
You can't just allow edits (good or bad) to replace everything like that.
Terra !4dLvBoNE..
>>13962670 Sounds like a waste of our goddamn time and we could decide by multi-sprite and QC surveys. If there's a thick-lined version and a thinner lined version, we could vote against each other. 85% of the people voting in said surveys wont see the difference but might think one is better than the other for an unknown reason.
Anonymous
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>>13962670 I think it was Dog, and I think he just thought it was generally accepted to match gen4 style.
A survey like that may help though.
Anonymous
>>13962632 there wasnt any pillow shading on the old one...
All you did was remove the highlights.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13962689 I suppose that's another option, but I don't see how it wastes any less time. Unless you want a mix of styles where some backsprites have tick lines and some have thin.
Anonymous
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>>13962713 oh, but the lines and eyes are better though, i gotta say.
Anonymous
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962713 I'll politely disagree. When highlights get large enough, especially on a small sprite, it muddies up the sprite. Why would there be a highlight on the chest when it's leaning forward? Why would there be a highlight on the thigh when it's shaded by the arm? The extra color is unnecessary.
I also did some form adjustments.
Anonymous
>>13962780 that's not pillow shading though.
This is.
Cmon nigga, this is spriting 101.
Terra !4dLvBoNE..
>>13962291 Holy shit that sprite. Without the head making it obvious its Rosa, her body looks just like a bunch of random colors from something shrunk down way too far, or just kaleidoscopic.
How do people make this crap?
My metaphorical hat is tipped to you spriters.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962832 Perhaps it's a poor choice of word, but it's still a useless color. Could you point out the highlights on the pokemon for me, please?
Anonymous
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When I see those double lines it just makes me think someone made a sketch and didn't bother to clean it up, especially when there's no rhyme or reason for the lines being thinker there in the first place other than "just because."
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13962859 misdreavous's necklace. Could you point out the highlights on these pokemon for me, please?
Anonymous
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>>13962859 Gen4 is not without highlights, though. But I do agree Koblin looks better without them, its purple shade just needs more contrast.
Sketcher
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Alright, I believe I've updated all of my sprites to the wiki. Other glauqua backsprite guy, make sure to upload yours as well. I don't see yours there.
Anonymous
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Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13962957 >>13962957 what is this, I like it.
Anonymous
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>>13962849 yeah spriting is magic
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13962916 Oh, you mean the shiny, non-furry beads around it's neck? I also notice that there is a highlight in the shiny, non-furry metal parts of the Houndour sprite too. Boy, if only Koblin had anything shiny and non-furry on it. Other than it's eyes and claws, I suppose.
>>13962940 None of those are furry. All of those highlights (with the exception of Banette) are meant to represent a smooth, shiny surface.
Anonymous
Decided to work on Nurshary's TM/Tutor moveset because lord knows no one else is going to remember the guy. Thoughts? Opinions?
Anonymous
>>13963011 >None of those are furry. youre right.
But all of these are.
Anonymous
I've been playing League up until now. Oops.
Clash !dErycoonJw
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963071 So you're saying it needs a faint highlight on the top of its head?
Because it seems like what you were saying before was that I shouldn't have bothered working on it, and this doesn't convince me that I shouldn't have.
Is this better?
Anonymous
>>13963115 what kind of music?
Sam Spade !XozFbW8qqw
Sketcher
Anonymous
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>>13963115 id be down for a stream
its been ages since ive been in a stream with you all
Anonymous
>>13963128 Anything soft and trancey, Pokémon music but I also let you guys tell me what music to put up too.
http://www.livestream.com/requestfag Anonymous
>>13962940 what is the point of this exercise? what are you guys doing? most of them don't have true highlights.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
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>>13963188 MUCH better
id keep playing with it, still not as good as your others imo
Anonymous
>>13963172 Ah, love that image.
Anonymous
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13963188 mhm, i'll take an critique and play with it more in the morning. Thanks.
Anonymous
>>13963015 p-please respond
Anonymous
>>13963124 yes, actually it does look better.
Maybe it could work on the arm, but it works fine without it.
I was just saying there was no real need to remove the highlights in general.
Anyway, as i said earlier, you did good work with the linework.
Anyways i did some edits.
>>13963182 >true highlights what?
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13963222 oh, old one was last thread, and I saved over it. oh well
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963248 I still prefer it with just the head spot.
Anonymous
>>13963276 well then its just up to the voters now..
Anonymous
>>13962957 maybe now I can get some sleep.
Anonymous
>>13963284 The stupid, stupid voters...
Anonymous
>>13963015 u-turn doesn't really make sense. rock slide is a bit of a stretch but not a big deal.
this thing would be a good place to put a custom move. thank god custom move submissions are closed for some reason.
Anonymous
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>>13963015 >>13963238 Can't say I'm an expert. But can't say I see a glaring issue either.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963188 Miles better! I love it. Do you have a clean copy of those rocks I could fiddle with a bit?
Anonymous
>>13963219 I'm glad you do!
>>13963188 asdfghnjmk I love that. It just looks so nice and I want to walk in it
Anonymous
>>13963248 swampert doesn't have a true highlight. meaning a lot of it's body is in direct light. technically half of the sprite is the highlight.
Anonymous
>>13963297 yeah i dont know what goes through their heads when voting on sprites.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963188 Also, those red trees make me think of "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego" every time I see them.
Anonymous
>>13963302 Uturn makes sense to me. If it is good enough for Lumineon it is good enough for me.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
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>>13963314 si, and thank you
>>13963328 Aww! thanks!
>>13963350 lol, now, now I'lllkeep thining that.
And now, i'm off!
Anonymous
>>13963330 >swampert doesn't have a true highlight. then what the hell are these?
cause i'm definitely seeing 3 tones of blue and navy on those parts.
Draik !sgg1MEH.f2
Anonymous
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>>13963371 actually, 4 on its tail.
Anonymous
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>>13963302 Rock Slide is kind of a stretch, but I got it from Mantine who seemed really similar from a body type perspective.
Anonymous
>>13963015 calm mind from cuppy, aquaring from chlorofin, rest from glocto, mist from boarealis, heal bell and swift from erycoon, protect from doppole, sweet/lovely kiss of dreamdery
just ideas
Anonymous
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
I am sorely tempted to put this on the wiki. I know the damn thing's been surveyed to death, but I despise the lumpy current sprite with a passion, and I think I've resolved the issues people had with the previous one.
Anonymous
>>13963421 looks good to me.
Anything to fix the piece of shit we have now.
Anonymous
>>13963354 lumineon is a "butterfly fish" which is why it gets several bug moves by level up.
the move u-turn really implies flying more than bug though. the japanese name is "round trip". you might have noticed a lot of birds learn it.
the only other pure water pokemon that can learn u-turn is the manaphy line and they are based on "sea angels" which is presumably the justification for that. (angels=flight)
Anonymous
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963434 The scary thing is, the one we have now seems to have won by a relative landslide. Something like 25 out of 32 votes. I don't understand it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13963404 Calm Mind, Protect, and Rest are TM. Swift is a tutor. Aqua ring and heal bell are level up moves.
Mist seems like a good one. I'm weary of putting Lovely Kiss on things because of how powerful sleep is and it is Jynx's signature, but I'd add it if it gets more support.
Anonymous
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>>13963459 man i dont even know.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13963434 >>13963458 >>13963465 I suppose that's enough support for me to post it. Don't nobody yell at me.
Anonymous
>>13963459 i remember the guy who made it being kind of a dong. he posted it and everybody told him it was awful and he fought us all about it.
i wouldn't be surprised if he jacked with shit. i dunno. yours matches the art better.
Anonymous
>>13963449 It isn't learned by just flying mons though as plenty of grounded mons get it. I think it is really important for the moveset to give it a niche.
Anonymous
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>>13963332 You can just... replace the old one. Nobody will know.
Just joking, don't do it. ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
It appears someone has removing the losing sprites and not putting them in the sprite graveyard.
Anonymous
>>13963506 well shit. which ones?
Anonymous
>>13963495 nurshary is so slow it's not even a good option though. it'd be better to switch.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963512 Looks like all the ones from the last survey, at least. Maybe the one before, too.
Anonymous
>>13963540 Rat cleaned up the wiki on the second to last sprite survey, pretty sure. Did a vigilant job, too.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963492 That's worrying. If there is reasonable suspicion that the surveys can be/are being tampered with, that could be a problem.
I'm not sure that's what happened, but it would make more sense to me than people liking that derpy thing.
Of course, a bunch of people windged about it being changed from the farting one before, so I suppose it's possible that there is simply no accounting for taste.
Anonymous
>>13963538 Slow is what makes it good. It gets the next mon in unscathed. So your mon gets wish passed to it easily and things like that. It is a reason people run volt switch on fortress. And consider a traveling nurse if you want more flavor reasoning.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963573 Okay, cool. Someone definitely mucked up the most recent cleanup, though.
Anonymous
>>13963583 but it learns dragon tail so why not just use dragon tail if you are going to go second.
slow, fat, water pokemon just don't learn u-turn. the potential for it to tank in a switch doesn't really change that.
Anonymous
>>13963577 I personally voted against that pose because it bothers me it's just a triangle head-on where
>>13963421 is in a slightly different angle that makes it look more dimensional.
Anonymous
>>13963617 Dragon tail switches the other person's mon.
Anonymous
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>>13963469 Basically, as far as movesets go, I'm a major proponent of "everything should have some niche", and if possible "something only it can do."
We all know Aguanauts already. I voted Skink for Sand Stream because I feel like Kairoglyph can get a useful function on its own, whereas skink is ... well, a small monotype with not much going for it. And it made logical enough sense, anyway.
So, Lovely Kiss sounds good to me.
But I'm also keen on making some signatures lose their status, if the case is fitting enough Anonymous
>>13963617 >Nurshary >fat Don't be talking shit about my waifu
Anonymous
before i make a faggot of myself, Is vectol surveyed and still unconfirmed as well as having no redesigns in the running?
Anonymous
>>13963015 Remove the inklings of Psychic-typing (i.e. Psyshock, Calm Mind, Telekinesis, what the fuck, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast and Bulldoze)
Take out U-turn too. Rock Slide is really pushing it, it can stay or go I guess.
Anonymous
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13963619 Well, thank you. That's what I was going for.
I'm trying to shrink it a bit, since it's so gigantihuge.
Anonymous
>>13963632 yeah i know. i'm just saying nurshary should be a phazer instead of a u-turner like most fat water pokemon
>>13963655 it has like 125 hp man
>>13963674 post it. regardless of survey status the current vectol is not gonna get confirmed.
>>13963738 it should keep the psychic moves. just because you don't understand how movesets work doesn't mean we need to change things.
Anonymous
>>13963674 Do it man. No one else is working the poor thing.
>>13963783 I'm saying it should be able to do both so it isn't generic balky mono water type #10 and can uturn out to get wishes passed better, give more moves to sweepers after using one of the "room" moves, and just generally get a more frgile pokemon in unscathed.
And just look at this slow uturn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjKQxg5-FM8 Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
Well here we go. I attempted the impossible sprite.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963878 I like the colors, but what happened to the eyes?
Anonymous
>>13963878 Dude! You nailed it!
Anonymous
>>13963783 it shouldn't keep the psychic moves. just because you don't understand how movesets work doesn't mean we need to change things.
Anonymous
>>13963863 i am familiar with slow u-turn. we should give it one of our other mons. it could be good on nobunata. i understand the desire to make our pokemon stand out but a shark just doesn't make sense with u-turn.
i'm unaware if we even have any phazers in our dex tho. anyways, nurshary has a niche already. it is the chansey of our game. it is the audino. it takes hits and passes wishes. chansey can't use u-turn and it has quite a niche for itself.
we should just aim for nurshary to fill that role as best as it can. it's an important role.
Anonymous
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>>13963936 The contrast makes the eyes look like gems, which is how I've always imagined them. The leftmost one could probably use some adapting, but I think it looks great like this.
Anonymous
>>13963878 Yay you made it not puke-colored!
Anonymous
>>13963783 Are you just saying that because you can't think of a reason to give it those moves? It can't make use of them and Alomomola, Sharpedo and Milotic are all incompatible with those moves. It doesn't need them at all because it's special attack stats are shit. You're looking at moves that
>do not match the pokemon >do not make sense for the pokemon >have zero precedence on similar pokemon >are completely unnecessary for balance Which part of movesets don't I understand? You know, since you're the fucking expert, obviously.
Quality Bro !JOo5CGFAf.
>>13963936 this any better?
>>13963941 thanks. any problems though?
>>13963957 haha. I always said, take your palette from the official sprites. It'll make your job a million times easier.
Yet nobody listens to me.
Anonymous
>>13963953 Wish + U-turn is a boss as fuck role, bro. It kind of sucks that it's slow but Tailwind and U-turn is also boss as fuck, so you can see where I'm going with this.
Anonymous
>>13963936 Surprised you didn't feel like polishing
>>13961423 Anonymous
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>>13963992 the gems need to be outlined better
Anonymous
>>13963946 really man. just go look at real pokemon movesets for ten minutes and then come back here. psychic, calm mind, shadowball, focus blast, etc. are all very widely distributed moves.
you think it's weird that a nurse shark can learn shadowball? well i think it's weird that surskit can learn shadowball along with a bazillion other pokemon.
don't talk shit about things you don't understand. srsly go to bulbapedia and read up on how pokemon works before coming in here and pretending to discuss things like you have an educated opinion.
Anonymous
>>13964023 really man. just go look at real pokemon movesets for ten minutes and then come back here. psychic, calm mind, shadowball, focus blast, etc. are all very widely distributed moves among Ghost, Psychic. Normal and Dark-types.
you think it's weird that a surskit can learn shadowball? well i think it's weird that adding random stupid shit along with a bazillion other pokemon would give us a quality game.
don't talk shit about things you don't understand. srsly go to bulbapedia and read up on how pokemon works before coming in here and pretending to discuss things like you have an educated opinion.
Anonymous
My go at designing Vectol.2
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13963992 The eyes are just getting lost in the shine.
>>13964006 I posted an updated front sprite on the wiki. The backsprite hasn't been in the thread in weeks, and I didn't see it when it was posted here. I'll definitely take a shot.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13964051 ah ok i see it.
But the eyes shouldnt have an outline.
No pokemon sprite ever has a full outline around the eyes.
Anonymous
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>>13964051 I prefer the black of the eyes to be sporadic rather than centered. Anonymous
>>13964023 >focus blast >widely distributed Not really, but its wider than some moves.
At least hes not complaining about say, Thunderbolt or flamethrower (which, for the record, it should probably not get because usually Pokemon dont learn conflicting moves, like Typhlosion not getting Ice Punch. Maybe this only applies in limited instances)
>>13964038 >ever criticizing someone for opening up a movepool with anything thats blatantly wrong >expecting to be taken seriously or allowed an opinion Anonymous
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>>13964057 At this rate we will have following pokemon confirmed before 2 more maps are done.
Anonymous
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>people wanting to limit a poor monotype mon's movepool even more
Anonymous
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964063 In this case, the outline is the translucent shading in the eye gems.
Anonymous
>>13963985 >It can't make use of them and Alomomola, Sharpedo and Milotic are all incompatible with those moves. what does this mean? those three pokemon all learn some of the moves in question
>am i the only person with access to bulbapedia? >>13963996 there are lots of good move combinations but you can't just put them on any pokemon.
there is no logical reason for nurshary to learn u-turn.
Anonymous
>>13964044 Put it in the poll.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13964083 *Shiny Back Gems*
Anonymous
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>>13963996 Slow Uturn and Trick room is pretty cool too.
Anonymous
>>13964089 >there is no reason for a nurse shark to attack something and then retreat >there is a reason for a nurse shark to have telekinetic powers or to weaponize ectoplasm Anonymous
>>13964083 not even vibrava, flygon or ledian, all who have translucent eyes have a full solid coloured outline around their eyes.
Flygon is kinda close though.
Anonymous
>>13964038 Look at how many things learn strange moves, like Outrage, Struggle Bug, most TMs.
>Ampharos can learn Outrage >Cryogonal can learn Attract >>Nincada can't >Steelix can learn Gyro Ball >Gorebyss learns psychic. by level up. Let that last one sink in. You'll see why you're a fucktard and need to not talk about moves ever again
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13964129 No shit. It says it in the filename.
Anonymous
>>13964081 Thank you. I've been saving this image for months in hopes of the chance to post it at a fitting scenario, in hopes someone would see that.
It was supposed to be "Oh wait you're serious let me laugh even harder", but i couldn't find it. Anonymous
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>>13964067 a quarter of all pokemon can learn focus blast
Anonymous
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>>13964153 That filename is doing it wrong. There is no joke, just misnaming.
Anonymous
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>>13964147 anyway, last edit for the night.
Dont shitpost too much, friends.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964108 None of them have GEM eyes, though. If you ignore this (maybe) rule, does it look good? I think that's more important.
Also look at Sableye's peepers.
Anonymous
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>>13964119 Nincada can become genderless, it's a special case there.
Anonymous
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>>13964168 yeah, but cahokisect's eyes are round and smooth, making them more like flygon's
goggles and ledyan's eyes rather than sabelye's eyes or starmie's "eye"
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964152 Their joke was okay. Your "joke" was so mundane and unfunny, it doesn't even read as a joke.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13964107 are you applying real world logic to a pokemon game right now?
>>13964119 ampharos is a dragon type pokemon and half of gorebyss moveset is psychic. it has implied psychic typing. lots of pokemon are like this.
Anonymous
>>13964185 No you just explained something super obvious (no shit it is a digimon) which ruined the joke and then got made at being called out on it. Go to sleep.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13964147 I think that works with a bit of tweaking.
Anonymous
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>>13964152 >>13964185 >>13964198 Guys, can't I just post a digimon without starting an argument?
Anonymous
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>>13964196 huntail learns dark moves and gorebyss learns psychic moves.
it is an allusion to some retarded asian fable about pearls.
both huntail and gorebyss are supposed to be pearl based although you would never ever ever ever ever figure that out by looking at them
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964198 No, someone made a joke, you tried to add to it, and it failed to register as a joking addition. There's enough of both people dumb enough to be fooled and people who would draw something that terrible as an honest submission in these threads to create reasonable doubt.
The whole joke's a pretty pointless and unfunny, in the long run.
Anonymous
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>>13964255 >The whole joke's a pretty pointless and unfunny, in the long run. just like my mother in law
Anonymous
>>13963674 well I...um...had this idea at work today, and it sounded cool...but now i see it really doesnt work for vectol and it's concept. Sorry.
I'll make a few edits if people think its salvageable, but if not i'll just go.
Anonymous
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>>13964324 shit thats cool.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>13964324 >still no power symbol eyes or USB claws/tails c'mon
Anonymous
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>>13964324 looks bretty gud
Anonymous
Hey guys. Just quickly dropping by before work to say that Ratatosk can take the eyeband off for sure starting today. I will take the laptop to the hospital today and if all works out well there should be posts starting again soon. No promise, unfortunately.
Anonymous
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>>13964324 Terrible. Definition of jgb.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>13964324 I likes it, def cool
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964324 Dude. I like that A LOT. What is it about it that doesn't fit?
Anonymous
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>>13964363 hey buddy hope you get well soon and your bad luck streak ends!
Anonymous
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>>13964324 I like the old prevo more (except the detached legs) but you got a great evo there!
>>13964363 Great to hear he's recovering.
Anonymous
>>13964324 Give it bacillovirus legs and give the end of the arms the little holes on top the USB prts have
Anonymous
>>13964051 here my stab at it
Anonymous
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>>13964382 The absurd amount of lines awful axew colors and jgb
Anonymous
>>13964401 >those colours why do you do this
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13964401 I think most of us agree that the lighter colors are perfect.
Anonymous
>>13964397 *bacteriophage
for reference
dme
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>>13961234 Shucks weren't someone working on a Fowattle backsprite, that was the only reason I didn't make one to go with the turkistador and quibble, now tat looks stupid with it being alone there
Anonymous
>>13964409 color palette is the reason it has issues. 2 shade blue is dumb when it makes up that much of body. the brown didn't fit at all, i merged red with pink to ditch a color so i could give shade to green. then i added more black lings and added hardlines for more of the ornate bits
Anonymous
Clash !dErycoonJw
>>13964445 This was a fun stream... Anonymous
>>13964397 >>13964429 i know it's cool looking, but the physical virus end always ruins this design, it looks too janky and get people making chains for dna all over the place. every time it's brought up reinforcing failed designs of the past 6 months
Anonymous
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>>13964445 cutest couple i've ever seen
they look so adorable Anonymous
>>13964445 >>13964449 the funny part is even the artist agreed shizune is better than lilly
have fun with your tea clash
good luck showing her our pokemon
me and shizune will play chess and sign below the stars all night
Anonymous
Well, that stream was fun. Here's Royjibiv in all it's coloured glory, like a mirror to Hydranticus.
Nighty night, /vp/. Stay awesome! Great work today!
For Clash, so the world can see it; http://i.imgur.com/iW29OJg.png Anonymous
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>>13964453 Really the legs look more like spider legs than anything else, and it's just a subtle thing. I wish the capsid tail spike looked good, but sadly it just doesn't. Legs are definitely doable
Anonymous
>>13964460 ok i really need to stop this competitiveness
since i already won the waifu wars >>13964471 i prefer the version with
clash -k-i-r-n- is lillys buttslut~
Anonymous
>>13964437 colour limit, nigga.
And you're over it.
The yellow is disgusting and the highlight has absolutely no contrast.
Merging the mid tone red and the pink were definitely a bad idea. They're too close in tone and kinda clash.
>brown u wot m8?
The eyes are pretty bad too. Have pretty much no contrast.
And im not sure why you replaced half of the red with the dark yellow outline colour.
Clash !dErycoonJw
>>13964460 Why do you need to remind me... >>13964471 Night! Thanks for the fun stream and amazing drawings!
And making me sad occasionally... >>13964483 I don't think it was saved other then my screencap.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964437 What? The extra shade of blue described the segments of the underlying body. If the brown you're referring to is the outlining brown I don't know what you mean by it not fitting. The green doesn't need extra shading, the black outlining you added is too dark, And you obviously changed the gold colors to something much less pleasing.
I'm gonna have to go with the colors the other guy did.
Anonymous
>>13964471 >those glorious transparent wings Royjibiv is love.
Expect Chegrin to be your next request. Anonymous
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>>13964324 I think most people like that the first for is a computer mouse. But the second form is just a random thing. It should be a scorpion/computer gadet hybrid like the prevo. I don't think your redesigns do much of the line.
dme
>>13964471 >no shading on the little beige balls under the red fins you fucked up Anonymous
>>13964429 > give the end of the arms the little holes on top the USB best
suggestion
ever
i hope this is better?
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964500 >>13964437 Also, I don't know why you got rid of the white, it's a part of the 16 color limit.
Anonymous
>>13964511 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- will fix and post it again next time I post.
>>13964501 I love Chegrin. Glad you like it!
>>13964497 Urabutt. Anonymous
>>13964497 >And making me sad >that image aww you know i didnt mea-
ok well its just because she-
ok i guess i was just a jerk, i am truly sorry that the truth hu-
...
sorry clash
Anonymous
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>>13964522 >I love Chegrin Mah nigga status granted on my Chen o' meter.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13964544 >>13964522 >>13964497 this is why /vp/ doesn't like us
stop being gigantic faggots and derailing the thread with this bullshit
Anonymous
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>>13964557 lol sorry
back to focusing on pokemon
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13964557 Dude, it's gonna be ded hours in like 40 minutes. Lighten up.
Anonymous
>>13963015 Before critique, as a fellow movepool maker I appreciate your efforts.
First of all, there are too many tutor moves, even Nidoking only gets 17 (I'm pretty sure that is the most) and this movepool has 24. Try to cut out 10 moves.
Having psychic isn't bad, but psyshock, telekinesis, skill swap psych up, and trick room is a little out there. Outside of those, retaliate, flash, bulldoze, dig and maybe rock slide seem out of place. The only TM move that I think should be added is roar.
My suggestions for egg moves:
hydro pump (fettlekish, oarwish, mawasite, jawgodon, lavoon)
tickle (chlorofin, dreamdery)
take down (dunkywunkr, mawasite, nobunota)
like a psych nurse Scary face (Artifish, dunkywunkr, jawgodon)
recover (oarwish, erycoon)
sing (lavoon)
yawn (dreamdery)
Baton Pass (Erycoon, viipii)
Charm (paramoth)
along with the 3 you already have.
Anonymous
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>>13964486 no white. i am in the color limits. yeah they class bu di-tone segments and innate shit all looks too flat. it's a brown, a very heavy brown which is multiused like it's a damn trainer sprite and you have purple. switch my colors, it's the color choices i made that are important. if you can get a better yellow do so. no contrast? the eyes stick out very harshly??
Anonymous
>>13964514 you can ditch white. look at second stage starter. for two useless pixels of jarring eye shine where a bit of pink makes it fit better it's a good idea. what you missed in mine is how everything has bright spots on it. the lighting is whack in the other version. round highlight dots in every surface no matter where it is from light source
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13964587 >me in charge of posting before the thread is dead oh well
may as well post the moves that I think should be removed from the nurshary tutor movepool as well:
iron defense
gravity
pain split
wonder room
mudslap
recycle
secret power
role play
avalanche
knock off
swift
Anonymous
>>13964745 the lines on the feet are good, but the lines around the eyes are too much.
the first stage isn't giving off the computer vibe that it could
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13964640 It seems silly to make a pokemon made of jewelry LESS shiny. Also, I think white and black are required in the pallette.
And the missing white is the least of that sprites problems.
Anonymous
>>13964745 No, make it a cyclops where the one eye is the power symbol
this entails changing the face around
Anonymous
>>13964749 >iron defense Stopped reading there.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964640 You can post it to the wiki and see if anyone votes for it. I'm just telling you what I think doesn't work in it.
I hate it when people say a sprite I worked on isn't good without explaining why they think that.
And of course, I always reserve the right to think they're completely wrong. A right you are also free to exercise.
Anonymous
>>13964745 >>13964765 >>13964770 yeah, if you go powersymbol eye, its gotta be cyclopsian style
Anonymous
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>>13964777 Why? it makes no sense to have it in the movepool. All of the pokemon that learn it have a hard body or a hard shell of some sort and nurshary does not.
Anonymous
>>13964745 line around eyes and feet may bot show up in sprite form. try not to get too inate detail is destroyed.
Anonymous
>>13964791 the issue we have comfy, and you have it with others, is you can't understand why people get back at you. the light sources are off and you take the criticism wrong. also the palette makes the jewelry flat no matter how you stylize it there is no dimension. we have pokemon without white in our wiki. only black and transparent are needed though white is sometimes omited(pyroat). you can't have shine without a gradient, look at metal looking poke, always more shades to give things shine. now my use of black and choice of colors may be wrong and my shading wrong. but the legs on the left side of that should not look like that. the light is not directly on top and in front of out poke. it's front and left.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
I'm starting to get a little obsessed with anticipating QC size complaints.
Anonymous
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>>13964845 do it more often
Anonymous
>>13964845 hilarious that all you did was make it lean back more and that it will actually work in shutting up autistic faggots.
dme
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wish I had the patience for stuff like this, so beautiful.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964826 By get back at me, do you mean get mad at me? Because that usually happens when people are rude turds.
I'm not trying to be pompous, I just genuinely think your version of the sprite is as good as others. Am I not allowed to think that way?
I didn't say anything about the shading on the leg. It actually is more correct. I just didn't notice it over the other things I didn't like.
And you yourself have made the gradient in the gold almost indistinguishable. There is almost no difference between your lightest yellow and the next shade down.
And super shiny things have bright, defined highlights when in bright light. Hence the white.
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>>13964891 All I did was make it smaller. It actually isn't leaning back any more than the other.
I also changed the white shades to match the Pengliff sprite.
Anonymous
>>13964904 yes i have got annoyed with you in the past freaking out about your sprites getting taken down but they had be removed after losing a multi-sprite survey and then reuploading them all to the sprite page. i meant the insects left legs, or the legs on the right. they have way too much light on them and whatever that blue-red thing is looks wrong, mine wasn't any better. but get back isn't mad, it's get you to understand my complaints, they aren't unconstructive. the yellow i choose was just to try to get something that fit, the dark shade is a bit off from the yellow(they aren't a gradient, neither is the hardline, get the yellows inline at least), and they only kinda work together and the really light yellow is too spotty, should be smoother and mixed on other surfaces a bit better.(use it more and make it darker or w.e necessary) the 2 reds, 2 greens and 2 blues mess with image for me, especially with how much of a role blue and red have in shaping the poke. they don't show the shape well enough especially without any hardlines.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13964964 I've never done that. When my sprite loses, that's it. End of story. I don't like it, but I don't pitch a fit, and I definitely don't re-upload losing sprites.
I think you're currently experiencing the thing I get a lot, where you've made edits to a sprite which you see as improvements, and someone else thinks are unnecessary. I can relate. Best to just wiki it and wait for a survey.
That being said, I don't agree with you. I just do not see the problems you're seeing. Sorry. It's probably just best we stop arguing about it, because we're never going to convince each other.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
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>>13964988 And now I realize that's what you were saying before. But still. Might as well stop arguing.
Anonymous
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>>13964845 you are so fucking good at spriting comfy
>>13964513 >>13964324 and we have a pokemon
i like the current first stage more though. but that second stage is a winner.
Anonymous
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>>13964964 Jesus this was hard to understand.
Anonymous
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>>13964988 well at least we can agree to that. i'm not putting mine up, still not satisfied with the sprite, don't think it will ever get right too much clashing too much ornate in too small an area. and i got the warriors evos to work. just had hope that if you could understand me you could make the changes that finish it for good. but it happens. I know what mine got wrong, and some i don't get.(your love of light spots on poke, we argue about them once a week) same happened with the capulily. you made one piece dramatically better but as much as we told you you couldn't understand what we meant by what you messed up in the rest. it has since been further touched up, so it may be fixed now.
long story short. we can never communicate very well comfy, i miss rat. he kinda understood us both. even if he always had a goofy proportion somewhere. he can understand our complaints.
Anonymous
>>13964904 >>13964904 >>13964904 Your sprite is a little off model and has some shading and proportional issues.
in point form:
-the gold circle appears concave rather than convex
-the green and gold pattern on the back should be yellow ovals that touch with only a small amount of green in between
-it should be made obvious that the shell opens up like wings
-the green gems around the red one should also reflect light
-the back section seems a little too small for the perspective
-the back legs on the right (its left) should not have so much light on them, as the front legs would cast a shadow and so would the body
-there is some mistakes in how the light hits the gems. It looks like you took their shading right from the source art that has a different light source.
Anonymous
>>13965028 the design is ridiculous. so much detail beyond sprite resolution.
Anonymous
>>13965028 I just noticed it has 6 legs
Why
Anonymous
>>13965053 I don't envy those who take up the challenge of cahokisect's sprite.
>>13965028 On second thought, the green gems may just be a pattern.
Anonymous
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>>13965082 To be harder to sprite. ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13965028 -Um... No it doesn't?
-Good luck showing that at this resolution.
-See above.
-The green around the back gems aren't gems. They are just color spots which look like flower petals.
-I don't think it's too small.
-It's left legs (on the right) are in line with each other and at almost the same level as the back, so the light would be shining on the top of them.
Anonymous
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>>13965053 >>13965083 it might be time to say "fuck it, this sprite is never gonna look good, time to just let bagons be bagons and just throw whatever sprite in the game."
not like anyone is gonna use it
captcha: Wastemon Square
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
Anonymous
>>13965111 those colors are blinding. cant you take like...shiny pikachu's colors?
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13965121 It's made of gold and gems.
Anonymous
>>13965133 could you just try it? I'd like to see how it looks. if it still looks like shit, then by all means stick with the blinding yellow
Anonymous
>>13965094 Jeez, that other guy is right. You really do have a stick shoved right up your ass.
The gold circle appears concave because the red outline is bigger on the side that turns away (and is therefor further away) than the side that is turned towards the viewer, you have the red and gold pattern as side by side squares and should at least make an effort to make it more accurate even if it doesn't end up perfect, a one pixel thick black line would be sufficient to make the wings obvious(though I'm not 100% sure they are wings as the art could just be off), and the shading on the legs is off (look at donphan's sprite for example, the back leg is heavily shaded. with the angle you had to make the sprite it should have even more shading on the back legs.)
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13965139 Here it is with Electabuzz's official HGSS yellow.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13965187 that actually looks a lot better to me. Thanks for doing that
Anonymous
>>13965187 >doing the opposite as suggested to make a point that's not very good of you
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13965168 Have I gone insane? I'm being very polite. Just because I don't think you're right doesn't make me rude.
You're right about the red on the circle. I was looking at the yellow, which doesn't look concave. You didn't mention the red, so I wasn't looking for that specifically.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13965197 That's surprising. It's even more glaring and bright than the previous one.
>>13965199 Oh my god, this is ridiculous.
Anonymous
>>13965208 its more yellow than it was. its still blinding as fuck, but at least now its yellow. try shiny steelix or arbok...or pikachu. it'll look better
Anonymous
>>13965203 please refer to
>>13965094 This was not polite.
That came of as VERY VERY dickish.
And again.
>>13965203 >It's not my fault. It's everyone else. Stop this.
Anonymous
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>>13964324 I like the design by itself a lot, but what is it?
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
>>13965220 All I could say was that it didn't look concave because it didn't. Now that more detail has been brought to my attention, I see it.
It's like you're looking for things to be mad about.
I'm so very sorry, dude who told be about the red part. Can I do anything to make it up to you? I know that everyone in this thread reads so much bile and hate in my posts that me frankly discussing the work being done has the chance of completely ruining the rest of their day, so I want to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.
So please, everyone make a list of every little thing that is going to make you even more needlessly pissy at me so I can avoid doing those things.
Perhaps I should just quietly accept this nonsense and be okay with you all acting like wilting violets, misconstruing every fucking thing I say and acting like I'm fucking bullying people when all I'm trying to do is communicate my feelings about the work being done! Perhaps everyone is so keyed up to hear sarcasm and dismissal in a person's posts that anything I say is going to be treated like a fucking hissy fit!
And now that you've all driven me to fucking distraction, you've all got a perfectly valid reason to continue this annoying bullshit until I just give up and tell you all to fuck yourselves.
Grow a fucking spine, you twats. Good fucking night.
Anonymous
>>13965263 and nothing of value was lost
Anonymous
>>13965271 no he is a good spriter, he did actually see a thing or two by the end. patience is of value. activity was lost. tempted to show my real shitty wip nurshary back
Anonymous
>>13965325 yet he was an uppity cunt, I'd rather a handful of nice newbie spriters willing to learn than 1 egotistical asshat who thinks the ground he walks on is paved in gold
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13965356 too profile, too big. lighting a bit funky too
Anonymous
>>13965391 I'll fix the shading in a bit, for now I'm more interested in the general shape.
Does this head suit it better?
And what do you mean too big?
It's the same size as pidgey.
Also too profile?
Anonymous
>>13965418 i don't mind, but others don't like the head in profile, even though half the front sprites have the same. most of the time you have to mash the face a bit so it looks like it's looking at it's opponent.
speaking of i wish we had a really dumb pokemon. who just stares at it's trainer instead of it's opponent.
Anonymous
>>13965434 Uhh, Kairoglyph's sprite's tail looks at the trainer I guess?
I see what you mean about facing the opponent though, I'll fix it up and post it tomorrow.
Anonymous
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>>13965443 yeah i guess. but i mean full dumb, turned around waving at it's trainer. like a puppy, or a 6 year old on a sports team
Anonymous
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>>13965344 if i had to chose between you dying and comfy cushions continuing to sprite for this project i would have to choose you dying. he is good and he is a nice guy. you seem mean and petty and i would bet money you can't sprite as good as him.
understand where i am coming from here. i want this project to turn out well.
Dia !7zfFcmVqWQ
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>>13965263 awww, comfy, come back, I still love you!
just read the plot survey, heres the combination of the best plot points
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13964765 >>13964770 >>13964793 >>13964800 More stuff. Tried to make prevo more computer wirey. It looks bad. I realise.
Anonymous
>>13965855 Go back before the needless lines version of 2.0 and make 1.0 look more like the one now that people like.
Anonymous
>>13965855 leave the prevo as-is.
Anonymous
>>13965948 Agreed. The yellow lines don't look right and I doubt they'll sprite well.
>>13965960 This face is good.
Anonymous
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>>13966063 added the same legs to the prevo
Anonymous
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>>13965121 it's chingling's colours.
One of the few pokemon that are actually gold coloured.
Anonymous
>>13963188 There are 2 trees you could be using to transition from the green to yellow better,
>>13964044 Oh god yes
Anonymous
>>13966215 that face in the tree, you can never unsee it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>13966258 goldix or chingling.
Pikachu is a 100% no.
Anonymous
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>>13966243 eh, I unsaw it until you brought it back up
dme
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Does both male and female viipii really need backsprites on their own I don't think the red lines that are their gender difference would be visible on a backsprite
Anonymous
>>13966258 That steelix version.
That'd get my vote.
Anonymous
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>>13966258 >>13966342 Looks more like brass than gold. Still, it's a toss up between that and the chingling color.
dme
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13966395 I still don't know what I want to evolve my koblin into.
But god damn I know I want one now.
dme
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>>13966409 Kobalt all the way for me, I am getting flarrapin as my fire type
Anonymous
How about this?
Anonymous
dme
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>>13966439 why don't we tweak the design so we can get rid of the tiny red spots the furtherst back on it's shell
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13966439 keepin it within the limit yo
Anonymous
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>>13966548 The limit can suck my ass Seriously though, the point of the limit is to keep sprites GF style. If it's preventing us from displaying a mon correctly, we should bypass it
Anonymous
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>>13966548 That's actually the best I have seen yet
>tfw cahokisect down Rat, Nondell, and Dunky would be proud
dme
>>13966548 So much better than the lardfat sprite that is on the wiki right now
Anonymous
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>>13966891 anything is better than what we have now.
Shitty New Surveyor !.vcAfdSp5U
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>>13963589 That was me because no one else could be bothered to do anything (like always) they should all be there, just not formatted right.
And nice job to those working on Cahokisect
Anonymous
>>13963188 Looking much better, but do what
>>13966215 suggests and mix some of those in, like pic related, tree wise?
Also, it still needs to be extended width wise by like 40 tiles Anonymous
>>13966258 Shiny must be silver.
Anonymous
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So, mapguy here.
Anything that needs to be fixed or changed on the map?
See
>>13961497 Anonymous
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>>13966994 Or platinum with diamonds?
Anonymous
>>13964196 >Ampharos is a dragon-type Pokemon I'm sorry but what the fuck are you smoking, I got a friend who needs some of the strong stuff.
>inb4 mega form Ampharos has been pure electric for 13 years.
>Half of gorebyss' moveset is psychic So you're going to complain about a pink water type having a few psychic moves and then defend a pink water type saying "half its moveset is psychic".
Anonymous
>>13967249 >ampharos isn't a dragon because I say so okay buddy
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>13966991 umm you edited the older one by the looks of it
Anonymous
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>>13967274 Yeah, but the tree color is what I am pointing out
Anonymous
>>13967266 >A sheep is a dragon because of something 13 years later Ampharos is a fucking lighthouse. This much is incredibly obvious. It's mega is dragon because of a pun on its Japanese name. This is the one and only reason.
Anonymous
>wake up >people are still arguing about nurshary
Anonymous
>>13967324 >A sheep is a lighthouse because of a part of a game. Ampharos is a fucking wool-less sheep. This much is incredibly obvious. It's job is light because of the plot in the game. This is the one and only reason.
This is you.Going to sleep now. Tata. dme
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>>13967343 It's neck is striped like a lighthouse Anonymous
>>13967343 Well, yes and no. Gamefreak took the "static electricity" thing to "wool falling out" and took the "sheep with no wool" thing to an extreme and transformed it into something else, much like they did with Charmander. But thats an argument for another day (or a bulbagarden "On the Origin of species" article)
Ampharos' design is based on Lighthouses, and the Olivine plot was designed around this. Going by names, Amp + Pharos, a famous lighthouse. But anyway,
>>13967337 sorry about that, I was just scrolling down past 125 unread posts from while I was sleeping and had to comment something.
Anyway, all that needed to be said was
> criticizing someone for opening up a movepool with anything thats not* blatantly wrong >expecting to be taken seriously or allowed an opinion I'd like to see your revisions, please. Get us back going
Anonymous
>>13966991 As for the extension needed, something like this, but less boring?
Anonymous
>>13967508 >I'd like to see your revisions, please. Get us back going Alright I made it a couple hours ago, but wanted the shitsorm gone. Never expected such controversy over such a low key pokemon especially after my previous submissions were accepted very well.
Anyways, I took out calm mind and focus blast as they were a little TOO psychic flavored. Removed U-turn as Heal Order is works to give the free turn to trick room guys or to ensure health being passed while being more risk/reward than uturn. Added HMs and another Egg move. I really want Haze as an egg move, but nothing gets it.
Anonymous
>>13967592 Jesus was Kanto awful, map-wise.
Anonymous
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>>13967749 GF just sucks at exterior maps. 4/5 of them are trainer halls. Kanto has some of the best dungeon design though.
Local Moose Friend !isnn/AUU0c
>>13961962 Sub was hit by a car saving a hedgehog. I don't think it was as severe as a hit and run, though.
I'd post my comic but
>school computer How is everyone this noon?
Anonymous
>>13967872 Essay due in 4 hours, math club meeting in 1.5 hours, browsing /vp/ from the shitter, need to wipe soon, poop starting to fester in buttcrack, smelling a little bit nasty.
Local Moose Friend !isnn/AUU0c
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>>13967893 At least you have 1.5 hours to get ready for the meeting?
Anonymous
>>13967872 Saving... a hedgehog?
Local Moose Friend !isnn/AUU0c
>>13964363 >Eye bandage Woah what. When I hear ' hit and run' I think 'broken hip/leg. possible shoulder/arm dislocation'. did glass fly in his eyes? D:
>>13967942 He was walking down the street at night and saw a baby hedgehog in the road and the driver said he 'dove' to save it. He didn't realize how fast he went to scoop it up because he was distracted by musics.
Anonymous
Sir Vay !yqity7zNyM
>>13961149 also have signature ability surveys
https://www.surveymonkey .com/s/S8RD9L6 https://www.surveymonkey .com/s/SVMFLNF Anonymous
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>>13967749 You think THATS bad?
Look at the FRLG version. It's actually worse.
Anonymous
>>13967639 We could give Haze to something in its egg group(s), like vipii.
Really I think EM lists should wait until we have a decent grasp on everything's movesets in the first place. And besides, from what I usually see on Bulbapedia, 4 moves from EMs is ridiculously small. Sure, there's not as many Pokemon as GameFreak's, but I'd guess nurshary to be Fairy/Water#, which should both be substantially large breeding pools.
Anonymous
>>13965765 I'm kind of worried about the find the golems part. That sounds a bit like a quest, which isn't exactly what pokemon is usually about. Unless you mean you can't encounter the spritis until you defeat their golem. that sound cool.
regardless
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=382&st=0#entry22097345 Anonymous
>>13968055 Water 2 is pretty small in this dex. It only has 4 because it is just a start. Most pokemon have about 10. Alomomola only has 6 though so they don't have to be that expansive. Especially something like Nurshary which gets most of its useful moves elsewhere.
Sir Vay !yqity7zNyM
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>>13968082 Planning on releasing another set of plots to be evaluated. So if you want something included, now would be a good time to put it on the link.
ComfyCushion !!wEpYnpclEDq
Resized Macabra and touched-up Dreamdery. I was looking at Macabra and noticed that it was SO HUGE!!!!
Anonymous
>>13968111 >>13967639 you probably already know this, but this is a good resource for egg moves.
has a list for each group
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Egg_Groups Anonymous
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>>13968139 really wanted arjibi to be fairy dragon.
and yet nobunata gets it Anonymous
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>>13967995 wait, you fucked up Quickdraw.
It ingores priority, but doesnt always go first.
Anonymous
Can I post this here?
Anonymous
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>>13968398 >I hope you guys are still taking ideas. Anonymous
Durrtle !!SUDJMflPZTZ
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>>13968137 without his big limbs, actually looks like a mon
Nice job
Anonymous
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>>13967967 hewas wearing glasses that broke
