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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:14:53 No.13976375 View View Reply Original Report

>ITT little things you hope theyll fix/change in xy

The fucking huge level curve in gen 5's pokemans.

No pokemonn that isnt an uber should take until the 40 or 50's to evolve. Getting a bisharp was a bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:17:48 No.13976419 Report

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Speaking of Gen 5; actually earning xp from wild Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:19:23 No.13976448 Report

Quoted By: >>13976479 >>13978580

>trying to add a Pawniard and Bisharp to my team late in BW

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:20:41 No.13976473 Report

Quoted By: >>13977070 >>13978497 >>13978545

>Trying to get braviary
>trying to get hydreigon
>trying to get volcarona

WHY would a pokemon need to evolve at level 6 fucking 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:20:48 No.13976475 Report

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HM's being a passive ability and making it so I don't have to slot an HM slave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:20:55 No.13976479 Report

Quoted By: >>13976516 >>13976534 >>13976941 >>13977361

>>13976448
>Catch Durant
>"Oh shit yes I fucking love ants!"
>4 hours later
>No moves
>Poor stats
>Slow leveling
Why Gamefreak? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:22:22 No.13976495 Report

Quoted By: >>13976582 >>13976596 >>13976641 >>13976740

If Pokebeach is right, it'll be even worse, with the change in Exp. share. Expect someone evolving at 75, maybe even 80.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:24:01 No.13976515 Report

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It was a fun worthwhile journey in B/W..

But now there in NO reason whatsoever to train my fucking Deino 60+ GODDAMN LEVELS to get eaten alive by a Wigglytuff.

Bring his shit down NOW

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:24:02 No.13976516 Report

Quoted By: >>13976613

>>13976479
>Heatmor's availability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:25:15 No.13976534 Report

Quoted By: >>13976751

>>13976479
>poor stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:28:14 No.13976582 Report

Quoted By: >>13978176

>>13976495
>If Pokebeach is right, it'll be even worse, with the change in Exp. share. Expect someone evolving at 75, maybe even 80.

Oh god what did I overlook something in the new leak fuck fuck fuck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:29:31 No.13976596 Report

Quoted By: >>13976616

>>13976495
>Expect someone evolving at 75, maybe even 80
What the fuck Gamefreak? This is around the time you need to be finalizing their EVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:30:49 No.13976613 Report

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>>13976516
Jesus fuck, this pisses me off the most.

Heatmor was legitimately one of my favorite designs, and the fact that you can't even get him until WAY late is just an insult. He appears later than Deino does, even. What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:30:52 No.13976616 Report

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>>13976596
>finalizing ev's
>level 80

You mean gaining them from battle or ev's actually beggining to show up in the stats? Back in gen4 my gallade and frosllass had all thier ev's by the time they where in thier 20's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:31:39 No.13976626 Report

Quoted By: >>13976646 >>13976655 >>13976662 >>13976688 >>13976747 >>13976774 >>13976894 >>13977516

On the same note of Gen V fuck ups (because everyone is finally starting to realize it was the worst gen, just like so many of us knew) I want AVAILABILITY fixed.

I want to be able to go on an adventure with the pokemon I want to use. Not wait for it to appear 5 minutes before the end of the game, during or right before victory road. Or god forbid in the fucking post game.

I'm looking at you Pawniard, Rufflet, Heatmor, Durant, Deino, and Afrobull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:32:19 No.13976633 Report

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I was pretty ok with it in B/W, but I hope they don't do it again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:32:57 No.13976641 Report

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>>13976495

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:33:24 No.13976646 Report

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>>13976626
Every single game has pokemon like that/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:33:51 No.13976655 Report

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>>13976626
>because everyone is finally starting to realize it was the worst gen, just like so many of us knew

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:34:29 No.13976662 Report

Quoted By: >>13976829

>>13976626
Not as shitty as D/P

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:36:15 No.13976688 Report

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>>13976626
>(because everyone is finally starting to realize it was the worst gen, just like so many of us knew)
I enjoyed Gen V. Then again, I've enjoyed all the other gens as well.

But then again, opinions and all that jazz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:39:55 No.13976740 Report

Quoted By: >>13978176

>>13976495
Wait which leak was this in?
I saw no mention of EXP recently on Pokebeach except for the catching pokemon thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:40:22 No.13976747 Report

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>>13976626
Gen 5 WAS pretty shit.
I admire it for trying to do a soft reboot more or less; but its flaws outweighed the good stuff. And yes the selection was shit up until the 4th gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:40:30 No.13976751 Report

Quoted By: >>13976862 >>13977392 >>13979266

>>13976534

in-game, he dies in 2 hits to ANYTHING, 1 shotted by any half decent special move.

Think ralts, while trying desperately to evolve it to kirlia. SLOW AS SIN exp gains. Also, by the time you get a durant, you lack the TM's/ tutors to give him any good moves besides ironhead.

Nerffie

Nerffie Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:40:59 No.13976767 Report

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Bring back Explosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:41:24 No.13976774 Report

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>>13976626
I still think V is the best gen. Although they really fucked us over with the evolving levels for certain pokes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:44:36 No.13976829 Report

Quoted By: >>13977008 >>13977291

>>13976646

>Gen I

Not really. After you got surf you had pretty much free range of what you wanted.

>Gen II

The only ones I can think of would be in Mt Silver with fucking Sneasel/Murkrow/Larvitar.

>Gen III

Nope.

>Gen IV

Only if you count Pokeradar.
All the problems really had to come down to the root of all Gen V's shittiness: linearity. Hopefully they've stopped this freakish experiment with Kalos.

>>13976662

>calling the most immersive games in the franchise the shittiest

So I'm guessing you eat up every opinion /vp/ tells you to? I bet you started to like Mega Lucario's design after denialists on here told you it was good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:45:20 No.13976839 Report

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>ITT little things you hope theyll fix/change in xy
No more timed event exclusive pokemon/ items

Not getting that wish though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:46:40 No.13976862 Report

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>>13976751
Not to mention once operational it doesn't even really do anything better or even as good as any of its competitors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:48:48 No.13976894 Report

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>>13976626
>because everyone is finally starting to realize it was the worst gen, just like so many of us knew

unova was such shit don't even remind me. glad it was such a short gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:51:31 No.13976941 Report

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>>13976479
Because reusable TMs. Remember how Gen 1 had awful movepools? It's because they wanted you to use them, but no one did at first because they were 1-use only. Now that they're reusable they want you to use them more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:55:15 No.13977008 Report

Quoted By: >>13977110

>>13976829
>>Gen II
>The only ones I can think of would be in Mt Silver with fucking Sneasel/Murkrow/Larvitar.

Not being able to acquire the pseudo-legendary/a dark type that isn't Umbreon/ The one new ghost type before 90% of the game is over is a pretty big deal m8e

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 01:59:36 No.13977070 Report

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>>13976473
you can't just split up large numbers like that dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:02:20 No.13977110 Report

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>>13977008
Ya I remember playing it through the first time and wondering when the two new types would show up so I could catch them...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:12:15 No.13977291 Report

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>>13976829
>Houndour only exists in a single patch of grass outside fucking CELADON. AT NIGHT.

Fucking WHY? It's not like he was incredibly powerful or anything. There was 0 fucking reason to lock him behind the E4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:16:22 No.13977361 Report

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>>13976479

>no moves

It has Dig and X-Scizzor, which is more than enough for anything ingame.

>poor stats

didn't know being the fastest steel type was poor, tying with Cobalion and being faster than Salamence, Garchomp and Landorus to name a few.

>slow leveling

even though it has the average leveling curve.

You never used a Durant, have you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:18:06 No.13977392 Report

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>>13976751
>>13976751
>he dies in 2 hits to ANYTHING

Obviously something with weak sp. defense is going to die easily.

Hint: when facing against a special attacker, DONT FUCKING USE DURANT!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:19:11 No.13977409 Report

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Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:23:57 No.13977490 Report

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>>13976646

But that's wrong.

In every Victory before Gen 5's you could literally obtain every Pokemon there by catching it earlier or evolving it.

Since most people don't count GSC's Kanto as Post Game I guess you can count GSC/HGSS with that. Fucking Houndour and Sneasel, that's just not right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:25:28 No.13977513 Report

Quoted By: >>13979021

add L=A back in

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:25:33 No.13977516 Report

Quoted By: >>13977540

>>13976626

Sorry bud, nothing will be worse than Gen 2.

Sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:26:59 No.13977540 Report

Quoted By: >>13977643 >>13977846

>>13977516
*Gen 3
Sorry, typo everybody.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:33:08 No.13977643 Report

Quoted By: >>13977774

>>13977540

>trying to masquerade as me

What a desperate gentuner.

Gen 2 had lots of great Ideas, but executed them fucking horribly.

Night/Day system was barely anything special and made catching rare pokemon nearly impossible because you probably wouldn't see them.

Item system being broken as the only items worth using was Leftovers which made the Stall Metagame even more stally

Introducing 2 new types and you cant even use the coolest and most useful ones till almost MT FUCKING SILVER

2 regions, but it completely fucked over the level scaling which made grinding to red worse than being stabbed in the testes. Oh and Kanto was a barren as the Saharra Desert

Breeding mechanics were cool, but nearly useless outside of completing the Dex and giving Snorlax Curse as most egg moves weren't even worth it.

Still like the games though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:37:11 No.13977707 Report

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>>13976375
Not exactly what you're talking about but I hope the Trainer levels don't suddenly jump from 50 to 65 like they did in BW's Postgame. I almost got wrecked by a fucking PKMN Ranger ten levels higher than Ghetsis just walking out of Opelucid for the first time
I love the higher leveled encounters but make it gradual jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:41:32 No.13977774 Report

Quoted By: >>13977798

>>13977643
Hyperboles, hyperboles everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:42:49 No.13977798 Report

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>>13977774

>I don't know what a hyperbole means

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:44:38 No.13977846 Report

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>>13977540
The only new Pokemon in Gen 3 I can think of that you couldn't get before the league was beldum. Aside from events and legends of course.

Gen 2 and Gen 4 were pretty bad that however. Sneasel/Misdrevous/Houndour/Larvitar/Murkrow, hell all dark types but umbreon were locked away until you beat the game for whatever reason.

In D/P all the new evo's were pretty much restricted to the Pokeradar which was post game or you had to trade.

B/W's problem as already stated had too many Pokemon that were only available very late in the game. Couldn't be arsed to use Pokemon like Deino, Heatmor, Rufflet or Afrobull. Especially with high as fuck evolution levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:44:49 No.13977850 Report

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I wouldn't shed a tear if a lot of the new pokemon got their evolve levels raised to the 50-70's range IF They fucking made wild pokemon actually worth fighting. Fuck. Gen 3 don't even wildpokemon. just grind those stupid ass reporters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 02:54:41 No.13978030 Report

Quoted By: >>13978805

>Levels scale fast, hard and smooth in Kalos
>Champion's team is capped by Kalos's Psuedo-Legendary at Level 70
>Their whole team has perfect IVs/EVs and uses brutal competitive strats

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:00:48 No.13978127 Report

Quoted By: >>13978186 >>13978213 >>13978305

>>13976375
I'm really hoping they take out TMs being reusable. TMs only being one use was kind of the whole point of them even existing before the newer games ruined it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:03:53 No.13978176 Report

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>>13976582
>>13976740
It's from a Game Freak interview, not Pokebeach:

http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/mechanic-changes-155907/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:04:30 No.13978186 Report

Quoted By: >>13978257

>>13978127
>I like to pretend that pokemon is hardcore, also the post-game is for faggots

dumbest nigga on the board

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:05:58 No.13978213 Report

Quoted By: >>13978257

>>13978127
It didn't make the games any harder being one use, they were just a huge pain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:09:36 No.13978257 Report

Quoted By: >>13978293 >>13978324 >>13978393

>>13978186
>>13978213
Making them infinite use just encourages players to be lazy and makes an already easy game even more easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:12:01 No.13978293 Report

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>>13978257
Nigger my teams in bw2 wherr 4 to 5 levels higher than irisis strongest and I STILL had trouble keeping my mons alive they've been making shit harder since gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:13:27 No.13978305 Report

Quoted By: >>13978318

>>13978127
One-use TMs was literally fake difficulty, especially later in the series. Multi-use makes them much more useful and giving the player more options means that opponents can be made more difficult to compensate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:14:35 No.13978318 Report

Quoted By: >>13978360 >>13978378

>>13978305
Should revives be infinte use as well then? Is making them one use fake difficulty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:14:58 No.13978324 Report

Quoted By: >>13978349

>>13978257
>building teams for pvp or challenges should be more cumbersome again

only retards actually used TMs during the playthrough before gen 5

removing one of the really stupid obstacles from the actually good part of the game was an improvement you luddite

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:16:41 No.13978349 Report

Quoted By: >>13978367 >>13978371

>>13978324
>pvp
Back to smogon with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:17:43 No.13978360 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978318
>Slippery slope fallacy
u can't hook me tonight b8master

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:18:14 No.13978367 Report

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>>13978349
Have you no real argument here do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:19:09 No.13978371 Report

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>>13978349
so you are saying the multiplayer part should be disregarded?

seriously, this is stupid even by /vp/'s standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:19:45 No.13978378 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978318
Can be easily rebought and aren't a pain in the ass to get/there wasn't only one of them in the entore game

I fucking hate that tms where still kept feom is on the goddamn subway. If thwy wanted to do that atleast make it so we can get more points on higher difficulties

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:20:50 No.13978393 Report

Quoted By: >>13978456 >>13978472

>>13978257
>you have to grind to get basic moves
It doesn't make an easy game easier. It makes a tedious game less tedious. There is a distinct difference between actual challenge and meticulous gameplay fodder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:25:55 No.13978456 Report

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>>13978393
>There is a distinct difference between actual challenge and meticulous gameplay fodder.
See: Level grinding/ breeding

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:27:30 No.13978472 Report

Quoted By: >>13978534

>>13978393
the joke is that pokemon games have no challenge whatsoever because robots can't into strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:28:43 No.13978483 Report

Quoted By: >>13978573

What they did in Gen 5 was fucking stupid. 40% of the dex is nothing but cripples that evolve at a ridiculous level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:30:11 No.13978497 Report

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>>13976473
fucking this. it was such a stupid fucking decision in b/w

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:33:35 No.13978534 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978472
Right, so you go play multiplayer because PvP is infinitely better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:35:13 No.13978545 Report

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>>13976473
Hydreigon is fine because it has a mid evo
Larvesta and especially Rufflet are inexcusable, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:36:58 No.13978573 Report

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>>13978483
It's more like 7%, bro
Check yourself before posting shitty, incorrect ratios

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:37:12 No.13978580 Report

Quoted By: >>13978622

>>13976448

>Pawniard- Fuck nut who isn't worth a shit
>Obtains 1 level
>becomes Bisharp
>Sweeps elite 4 like there a bunch of pussies
>my fucking face when the biggest pussy on my team became a powerhouse goddess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:42:02 No.13978622 Report

Quoted By: >>13978683 >>13978819 >>13978886

>>13978580
>goddess

you are a huge faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:46:58 No.13978683 Report

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>>13978622
Why, because he raised a female pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:58:37 No.13978805 Report

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>>13978030

>children's game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 03:59:49 No.13978819 Report

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>>13978622

Says the person who likes penis

>b-but I don't l-like manly bodies

That doesn't mean you're not a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:00:08 No.13978825 Report

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If it isn't a psuedo, it shouldn't be evolving more than 5 levels later than a starter.

Inb4 starters evolve at level 50 now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:04:56 No.13978886 Report

Quoted By: >>13978930

>>13978622

Bisharp's body seems pretty neutral gender wise. Thick thighs are actually kinda feminine even though they're suppose to look like clothes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:08:19 No.13978930 Report

Quoted By: >>13978976

>>13978886
It's a glaring bishop with deadly prongs all over it
That isn't inherently manly but it's still far from feminine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:10:01 No.13978963 Report

Quoted By: >>13979026

>the worm pokemon being shit until it evolves at level 10, where it learns one good move and is good for 10 more levels until it is outclassed by everything else
I really wish the had an early caterpillar/cocoon/buterfly with better possibilities than being a Jeigan unit equivalent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:10:44 No.13978976 Report

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>>13978930

I was refering to the hips/thighs specifically, kind reminds me of lucario.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:13:02 No.13979008 Report

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>my mienfoo didn't evolve into mienshao until postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:14:14 No.13979021 Report

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>>13977513
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:14:43 No.13979026 Report

Quoted By: >>13979048

>>13978963
Being a Jeigan implies they were ever good comparitively in the first place, the bugs are all terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:16:25 No.13979048 Report

Quoted By: >>13979119 >>13979120

Also, I wish more good or cool pokemon were available earlier. They did a good thing by putting Riolu extremely early in BW2

>>13979026
It's almost like you didn't read my greentext. Go back and try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:20:53 No.13979119 Report

Quoted By: >>13979153

>>13979048
different anon but that's still not a jeigan

they're early game crutches and you never have to work on them and function as your nuclear option for the first few maps when you really need shit done and can afford to waste the exp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:20:53 No.13979120 Report

Quoted By: >>13979153

>>13979048
If they're like Jeigan, it means that they were usable from the beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:22:55 No.13979153 Report

Quoted By:

>>13979119
>>13979120
Oh, I misunderstood the "in the first place" part. I see what you meant.

Is there a pokemon Jeigan then, if you describe it that differently? Rattata perhaps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:29:44 No.13979266 Report

Quoted By: >>13979297

>>13976751
Durant should be fast than almost everything in game...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 04:31:14 No.13979297 Report

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>>13979266
Maybe he just cacthed one with terrible IVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Sep 2013 05:05:28 No.13979768 Report

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What if they made it so that Pokemon like Pawniard and Rufflet and Mienfoo still evolved at level 50 when caught in the wild, but evolved earlier when hatched from an egg?

I suppose the reason the level for evolution is so high is because the minimum level you find all those guys in the wild is around 35, and they probably want you to spend a little time with the pre-form before getting it to evolve, which is why the egg thing that I just mentioned would work fine.

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