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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:03:06 No.14017676 View View Reply Original Report

Hey /vp/ I'm not too keen on the competitive scene, but I'm getting there. I remember seeing everybody here mentioning Gengar being good in Gen. VI, can I get an explanation on why he's improved?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:04:23 No.14017686 Report

Quoted By: >>14017701 >>14017706

>>14017676
Ghost can no longer be trapped
and Steel lost it's resistance to ghost

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:05:43 No.14017701 Report

Quoted By: >>14017719 >>14017728 >>14017740 >>14017741

>>14017686
That's all? I mean, it'll just do normal to ghost. Is that really that big of a difference?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:06:15 No.14017706 Report

Quoted By: >>14017721 >>14017728 >>14017730

>>14017686
what do you mean it cant be trapped?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:07:20 No.14017719 Report

Quoted By: >>14017756

>>14017701
Yeah, it makes it so that you don't have to switch a ghost out for steel types.It also means Steel/Psychic types are now susceptible to SE attacks by ghosts.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:07:47 No.14017721 Report

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>>14017706
Ghost types got a buff so they can't be locked in against an opponent. So if something used Mean Look on Gengar, it wouldn't matter. Gengar could still escape anyway.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:08:12 No.14017728 Report

Quoted By: >>14017756

>>14017706
all ghosts have auto shed shell. can't be contained even with mean look/magnet pull
>>14017701
it means that against bronzong and metagross it's now a useful pokemon

plus, sludge bomb is viable because fairies are weak to poison

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:08:25 No.14017730 Report

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>>14017706

Mean look, fire spin, shadow tag. Shit like that, you can still switch out.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:09:05 No.14017740 Report

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>>14017701
It can hit Scizor for neutral with one of it's STABs.
It can hit Heatran neutral without using Focus Miss.
It can hit Jirachi for SUPER EFFECTIVE with it's STAB.
It gets STAB on Poison, which kills the new fairy type (arguable until we see which fairies are good enough to be mentioned).
He gains a lot of important coverage by being able to bypass steel resistance.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:09:07 No.14017741 Report

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>>14017701
Yes, you can now hit steel/psychics with a STAB shadow ball, and the loss of an immunity is shit luck to a type, it makes all the difference in the world.
also, gengars poison typing covers fairies aswell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:09:13 No.14017743 Report

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He's already an excellent sweeper to begin with due to his massive Special Attack and Speed, as well as a wide movepool.

Ghost got a buff (no longer resisted by Steel)
Poison got a buff (is SE vs Fairy and also resists it)

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:09:55 No.14017753 Report

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Poison>Fairy

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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:10:47 No.14017756 Report

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>>14017719
>>14017728
Okay, thanks guys. I knew steel lost the resist, but I didn't think of it that way. Does seem helpful now, and since Fairies will probably be a big thing it's nice to know Poison hurts them.

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