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Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:48:12 No.14018181 View View Reply Original Report

hey /vp/

Been a long while since I've played a new pokemon game (last new game I bought was Leafgreen). A bunch of my friends are on the hype train for X and Y, and I saw the new limited edition red and blue DSs and figured it was about god damn time I got my act together and bought a DS, and I pre-ordered Y.

So, can someone give me a summary of any major mechanics overhauls since Gen III? I get that they've added something to the tune of 400 pokemon since then (649 with Gen V, and presumable at least a hundred more for Gen VI), but have there been any huge developments gameplay wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:53:16 No.14018236 Report

Quoted By: >>14018290

The biggest difference is the special and physical attack split: it no longer depends on the attack type. Each type has both physical and special attacks now.

The rest is mostly metagame/competitive type stuff that you probably don't care about if you're just playing for fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:53:42 No.14018240 Report

Quoted By: >>14018290

>>14018181
Check out an item list for changes there, a few are significant in the metagame.

Stealth rocks are considered the best move in the game for player vs player battling.

Physical and Special are no longer dictated by the typing of a move, rather the move itself is designated as physical or special.

I'll be honest, I can't think of a whole lot else that changed. There were small convenience changes like being prompted to use a repel on the spot when your previous one runs out, and more battle modes like triple battles and rotation battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:54:09 No.14018246 Report

Quoted By: >>14018290

Let's see...

Physical/special is now determined by move rather than by type
Triple battles and rotation battles
TMs are infinite use
Seasons (though I don't expect those to return)
Some enhanced breeding mechanisms (more control over ability, stats, etc.)

That's really it for major game mechanics, I guess. There are more changes coming for Gen VI (a new type, mega-evolution), but those are really it for Gen IV and V. Those two really focused on building on what was already there, rather than going crazy with new things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:54:59 No.14018255 Report

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Not op, but has anything been said about berry farming for XY? This dreamworld farming is lame shit, why can't I just farm in game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:55:38 No.14018264 Report

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>>14018181
Mechanic wise the games have mostly stayed the same with the bigger changes to the series being wifi trading and battling and more post game content.
Soon to be new type and Mega evolutions
All the new moves and abilities
Physical/Special split
Triple and Rotation battles
Easier ways to breed and train strong Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 04:57:43 No.14018290 Report

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>>14018236
>>14018240
>>14018246
Do note, there are some significant changes coming with XY. You'll be able to find out about those easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:18:38 No.14018557 Report

Quoted By: >>14018615 >>14018654 >>14018668 >>14018702

Physical/special split, k
I probably won't be doing much PvP since I suck at it
Infinite TMs... I'd heard about that. I take it they're a lot harder to get now?
Triple battles I assume are the same as double battles but with three pokemon
How exactly do Rotation battles work?

Also, do we know if we'll get the HG/SS 'pokemon follows you' in X/Y? Also can I transfer Pokemon from a Gen III game with HG/SS? While I only have Y on order for now, I would like to pick up HG for nostalgia, and it'd be cool if I could get my Sapphire team on there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:24:56 No.14018615 Report

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>>14018557
>Infinite TMs... I'd heard about that. I take it they're a lot harder to get now?
No, not really. The ones that you buy from stores are a lot more expensive, but that's about it. Honestly, this is my favorite change in recent generations. I used to hoard TMs and as a result never really used too many moves that weren't learned by level-up. Infinite TMs really made the game a lot more fun for me.

>Triple battles I assume are the same as double battles but with three pokemon
Yep. Only complication is that most moves can't hit the furthest Pokemon (so the one all the way on the left can't hit the opponent all the way on the right). So there's some strategy in who you place where.

>How exactly do Rotation battles work?
Kind of tough to explain. Three Pokemon are out on the field at one time, with one in "front" and two in the back. Only the front Pokemon attacks and takes damage. Each turn you can rotate who's in front, so in addition to the usual considerations, you have to guess which Pokemon your opponent will put in front, and plan your turn accordingly. Or something. Maybe someone else can explain it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:28:09 No.14018654 Report

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>>14018557
>Infinite TMs... I'd heard about that. I take it they're a lot harder to get now?
Not really no, same as before

>Triple battles I assume are the same as double battles but with three pokemon
Mostly, each Pokemon can only attack the Pokemon directly opposite you and the one to the side of that. So the Pokemon on your far left can't attack the enemy Pokemon on the far right

>How exactly do Rotation battles work?
Three Pokemon out of their balls but only one of them in front attacking and getting hit. You're free to rotate into the other Pokemon that are out and attack with them on the same turn so there's a lot more prediction with each side worrying about 3 lots of movesets every turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:29:33 No.14018668 Report

Quoted By: >>14018751

>>14018557
>Also, do we know if we'll get the HG/SS 'pokemon follows you' in X/Y? Also can I transfer Pokemon from a Gen III game with HG/SS? While I only have Y on order for now, I would like to pick up HG for nostalgia, and it'd be cool if I could get my Sapphire team on there.

No HG/SS-style following.

You can get your Sapphire team to X/Y, but you'd also need both a Gen IV and a Gen V game, as well as both a DS and a 3DS. So... it's doable, but probably not practical unless you have everything already. But if you have a DS and HG/SS, you can probably find someone here to help you out with the Gen V part of it - just trade it to them on HG/SS, they'll bring it to Gen V and VI, then trade it back to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:34:00 No.14018702 Report

Quoted By: >>14018738

>>14018557
Should also say that Triple/Rotation battles are pretty rare in game or online. More so than Double battles were and I don't even think we've seen any screenshots or footage of them returning to X/Y yet.

Also there are certain patches of grass where you can encounter 2 wild Pokemon at the same time in Gen 5 and there will be horde battles in X/Y where you fight 6 wild Pokemon at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:37:27 No.14018738 Report

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>>14018702
>Should also say that Triple/Rotation battles are pretty rare in game or online. More so than Double battles were and I don't even think we've seen any screenshots or footage of them returning to X/Y yet.

They weren't that uncommon in B/W2.

And they are confirmed to return, at least in some way. We know from the official website that they'll both be options for wifi battles. I doubt they'd leave them out of the game while keeping them as online options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:38:47 No.14018751 Report

Quoted By: >>14018773 >>14018793

>>14018668
So I can go from III to IV, but I can't go straight from IV to VI? That's too bad, but not huge setback. My roommate has an original DS and several of my friends have Black/White (2) , I'm sure they'd be willing to help. Oh, also, is it possible to trade something for nothing now? Like, send a Pokemon to someone without taking one in return? I'd rather not force my friends to have to catch a fuckton of whatever Gen V's Rattata is to trade with me to get from IV to V to VI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:40:31 No.14018773 Report

Quoted By: >>14018829

>>14018751

Yeah, you can only move one generation at a time.

Unfortunately you can still only do 1-for-1 trades. I'm hoping they change that for X/Y, but no word yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:42:45 No.14018793 Report

Quoted By: >>14018810

>>14018751
As for transferring Pokemon, it just goes straight to the next gen. You don't need to trade back to the older gen anymore.

Also, chances are you know someone with HeartGold or SoulSilver, if not the other gen IV games. Then you transfer from III to IV, and from IV to V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:44:38 No.14018810 Report

Quoted By: >>14018825 >>14018829

>>14018793
Yeah, I do (though I would like to pick up my own copy of HG). If I'm transferring up though I don't need to trade one for one up the ladder though? That's neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:46:36 No.14018825 Report

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>>14018810
Yeah, with all the changes between gens each time, it's just simpler to send it one way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:47:03 No.14018829 Report

Quoted By: >>14018873

>>14018810

Oh yeah, I guess I explained it wrong in >>14018773. Transferring isn't the same as trading. In Gen IV and V there are stupid minigames that you have to do to transfer, but at least you don't have to do any trading. Thankfully, Gen VI is confirmed to have ditched the stupid minigames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:50:31 No.14018873 Report

Quoted By: >>14018913

>>14018829
Oh that's great. Thanks a bunch for all the help guys, but I've got to get some sleep now. Y'all have a good night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2013 05:53:26 No.14018913 Report

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>>14018873
Good night, anon. I'm glad to see there are still sane people getting back into Pokemon.

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