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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:17:46 No.14084403 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14084437 >>14084569 >>14084593 >>14089989

Why does this happen? That is my only problem with this images. I'm not saying it is fake nor legit, I'm not trusting anything until I find it on my own playthrough (or it is confirmed by GF/Nintendo), but I'm wondering about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:20:00 No.14084426 Report

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I want to believe.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:21:07 No.14084435 Report

Quoted By: >>14084457 >>14084540

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:21:13 No.14084437 Report

Quoted By: >>14084605 >>14084621

>>14084403
I believe the leftmost picture has it as smaller due to perspective.
The upper right pic shows its real length, and the bottom left is bent because the pokemon sways its arms as idle animation.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:21:48 No.14084442 Report

Quoted By: >>14084621

Seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_%28visual%29

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:22:38 No.14084457 Report

Quoted By: >>14084540

>>14084435
mmm, dat birdpussy

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:23:21 No.14084462 Report

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>how do I perspective

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:30:52 No.14084540 Report

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>>14084435
>>14084457
>Birdpussy
Cloaca, if I recall correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:33:56 No.14084569 Report

Quoted By: >>14084621

>>14084403

Maybe the animation is just messing up how we can see it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:35:57 No.14084593 Report

Quoted By: >>14084605

>>14084403
It's because it's one of the most blatantly obvious fakes ever

Case closed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:36:56 No.14084605 Report

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>>14084593
see >>14084437

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:37:58 No.14084621 Report

Quoted By: >>14084645 >>14084730 >>14090022

>>14084442
>>14084437

How exactly perspective? I know it's the most common argument but I don't see how it would work. In both of the right pictures we clearly see that the last feather is almost the same size as the second to last, while in the leftmost they should still mantain that proportion, considering that the creature's arms are bent just like in all of the other pics.

>>14084569
It's possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:39:17 No.14084645 Report

Quoted By: >>14084664

>>14084621
>How exactly perspective?
Moving images and perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:40:50 No.14084664 Report

Quoted By: >>14084845

>>14084645
Perspective would suggest that the size of the last two feathers should be the same, or atleast, almost identical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:42:55 No.14084689 Report

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Its called ANIMATION you daft fuck

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:43:24 No.14084697 Report

Quoted By: >>14084821

Are you fucking retarded? Check the OTHER wing on the left picture. (yeah, birds have two, surprise, huh?) It is longer because we are viewing it from the side and it matches with the others. The other feather is BENT FUCKING BACKWARDS. We dont see it's tip because of a thing called DEPTH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:46:19 No.14084730 Report

Quoted By: >>14084821

>>14084621
Not exactly perspective. In that picture. the feathers are bent backwards because the bird is most likely animated on the status screen. And since the last feather is bent more, we obviously seeless of it. We don't see the tip because we are viewing it directly from the front. If you check the last feather on the OTHER wing, the length matches with the other images.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:49:14 No.14084761 Report

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Perspective? Is that a Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:53:37 No.14084821 Report

Quoted By: >>14084987 >>14090016

>>14084730
In that case, is the feather bent the same way that the bottom-right, or like the feather from the other wind?

>>14084697
You really want it to be real, huh? It would make my day if it wasn't at the end. Just to know you're mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:54:50 No.14084845 Report

Quoted By: >>14084892

>>14084664
Not the guy you are talking with but i think he is implying that the feather is flapping upwards still and is folded back due to being at the wing very top of its arc.

Given that on the other wing it appears consistent with the drawing i'm inclined to saythis is right. It would be one thing for a faker to screw it up from 1 faked still to the next, but messing up only 1 arm/wing drastically in the same way on 2 shots? That seems strange

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 16:58:49 No.14084892 Report

Quoted By: >>14085008

>>14084845
If the feather was bent back (like in the bottom-right) wouldn't we see it's edge as flat? Sorry if this is not what you were talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 17:00:25 No.14084910 Report

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Guy, guys, proper perspective CAN look messed up depending on how a photo (or, in this case, a still screenshot of an animation) is taken.

If you ever tried drawing something using a photographic reference, you'll know that you often have to make changes to real perspective in order for it to "feel right" and look pleasant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 17:05:57 No.14084987 Report

Quoted By: >>14085064

>>14084821
My argument has nothing to do with weather it's real or not. (I dont give a shit if it is) I am simply stating that what we are looking at is a three dimensional model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 17:07:37 No.14085008 Report

Quoted By: >>14085064

>>14084892
Its in the middle of falling since the arm is no longer moving up. Remember we have fluid animation now, not sprites with a few frames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 17:12:27 No.14085064 Report

Quoted By: >>14085224

>>14084987
Then there's no need to be that aggresive.

>>14085008
That actually makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 17:25:09 No.14085224 Report

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>>14085064
This discussion has already been made yesterday for several hours. Yes, I am a little annoyed. Sorry about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 19:41:05 No.14087535 Report

Quoted By: >>14087578 >>14087591 >>14087795 >>14090882

>Right wing has 4, large, more rounded feathers
>Left wing (circled) has 6, thinner, more sharper looking feathers, including the one bending
OP has a point. How are people not seeing this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 19:43:58 No.14087578 Report

Quoted By: >>14087795 >>14088648

>>14087535
A little thing called ANIMATION

It makes things look different

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 19:44:40 No.14087591 Report

Quoted By: >>14087648 >>14088648

>>14087535
Because the OP is a moron who doesn't understand basic perspective and animated models

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 19:47:29 No.14087648 Report

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>>14087591
How about fuck you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 19:54:20 No.14087795 Report

Quoted By: >>14088852

>>14087535
>>14087578
How does animation and perspective have anything to do with the number of feathers and the design of said feathers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:20:39 No.14088415 Report

Quoted By: >>14088581

I hope someone is capping these threads so we can have some historical evidence that /vp/ literally lost their minds in the events leading up to the 12th. Perhaps future generations can learn from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:26:13 No.14088581 Report

Quoted By: >>14088707

>>14088415
When have we EVER learned from the mistakes of our past? Gen VII is going to be the same shitstorm, mark my words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:29:01 No.14088648 Report

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>>14087578
>>14087591
You guys are trolling, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:30:30 No.14088690 Report

Quoted By: >>14090165

always some faggot trying to play sherlock holmes

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:31:00 No.14088707 Report

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>>14088581
I was just trying to be optimistic...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:33:06 No.14088757 Report

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looks like a pre evolve of Ho-oH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 20:36:36 No.14088852 Report

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>>14087795
Have you not seen Helioptile attacking? I'm not saying the leak is fake or real but they could easily have a model that could do that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:36:10 No.14089920 Report

Quoted By: >>14089934 >>14089970 >>14089973 >>14089992 >>14089994 >>14090002 >>14090048 >>14091147

I really want Hawlucha to be real, but you guys have missed the most obvious thing.

Flying Pokemon fly ALL the time, as there's no seperate animations for Sky Battles.

Hawlucha is a Flying-type, but it's standing on the ground. That's not exactly going to work in a Sky Battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:37:15 No.14089934 Report

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>>14089920
hmmm you might be on to something. Unless it's another Doduo situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:38:41 No.14089970 Report

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>>14089920
Theres obviously exceptions.
Did you think doduo is going to be constantly flying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:38:55 No.14089973 Report

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>>14089920
Fletchling stands on the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:39:40 No.14089989 Report

Quoted By: >>14090144

>>14084403
it happens because pokefans and especially /vp/oreons are fucking retards who have never heard of perspective and as such treat it like rocketsience.
wottergate 2. incoming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:39:45 No.14089992 Report

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>>14089920
Fletchling isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:39:46 No.14089994 Report

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>>14089920
Fletchling stands on the ground you dumb fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:40:16 No.14090002 Report

Quoted By: >>14090082

>>14089920
Doduo
Farfetchd
Delibird
Chatot

Off the top of my head all non flying birds. Their sprites remain firmly on the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:40:58 No.14090016 Report

Quoted By: >>14090265

>>14084821
too bad you will cry like the little bitch you are, when the embargo is up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:41:13 No.14090022 Report

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>>14084621
Take the image of Tornadus' Incarnate Form from the Dream Radar images. Everyone was bitching at theorizing at every possible angle and it turned out to be something completely different. The angle it was at made it look like other things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:42:37 No.14090048 Report

Quoted By: >>14090198

>>14089920
I'm not sure if I'm right but I think I remember reading somewhere that not all flying types will be able to participate in sky battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:44:22 No.14090082 Report

Quoted By: >>14090128

>>14090002
I haven't seen any of those in X Y screenshots yet. Source?

But I'll admit Fletchling could throw a spanner into the works.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:44:31 No.14090083 Report

Quoted By: >>14091184

I got no problem with hawlucha, he looks pretty sweet (although I'm going with pangoro for my fighting type needs)

Greninja on the other hand is jarring as fuck. Not just because of the tongue but those big ass triangle horns. It doesn't even look like a frog anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:47:15 No.14090128 Report

Quoted By: >>14090198

>>14090082
None of them have versions in images yet. But their BW2 animations all have them on the ground, stands to reason that they wouldn't be flying either.

Emolga looks like it's on the ground in one of the shots, and it'd probably float up occasionally like it does in BW2. That's where the basis for the animations will more than likely come from.

Fletchling is on the ground in all the artwork and screens so far, and likely will fly up in the air in short bursts.

Hawlucha will probably do the same thing; stand on the ground and fly during idle sequences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:48:17 No.14090144 Report

Quoted By: >>14090170

>>14089989
The perspective doesn't change the number of parts on the wing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:49:42 No.14090165 Report

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>>14088690
I just wanted an explanation. Did you even read what I said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:49:49 No.14090170 Report

Quoted By: >>14090736

>>14090144
maybe, just maybe ITS FUCKING BODY IS IN THE WAY OF THE 2 FUCKING SMALLER FEATHER. but that's just maybe of course.
stupid denialfag, oblivious of perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:51:32 No.14090198 Report

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>>14090128
Staraptor and Charizard are also standing on the ground in their BW2 animations. What they do in past games is irrelevant
>>14090048
I think I remember reading this too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 21:55:11 No.14090265 Report

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>>14090016
Not at all, I actually like that pajaro. I just wondered and wanted a legit reason as of why is the feather shorter. Not just saying whatever people you read here. Try to think a little.

As for the sky battles, do we know we won't have animations for things like charizard, dragonite or salamence? They have no problem flying. Do they fly normally in their animations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:14:47 No.14090583 Report

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Jesus fucking christ /vp/, take an art class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:23:55 No.14090736 Report

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>>14090170
Not even close.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:34:59 No.14090882 Report

Quoted By: >>14090937 >>14091749

>>14087535
Here, for a better spacial understanding.

The trick is that it works more like a cape, than actual wings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:39:41 No.14090937 Report

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>>14090882
Much better picture than the other one that keeps getting posted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:51:13 No.14091147 Report

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>>14089920
>what is fletchling
>what is salemance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:53:43 No.14091184 Report

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>>14090083
Same, the triangle horns look like they were done with the damn line tool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:53:57 No.14091187 Report

Quoted By: >>14091355 >>14091385 >>14091680

So are we seriously having this thread again? Yesterday all the people bitching fake got demolished by that guy making 3D renders. Stop trying to stir shit OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 22:56:25 No.14091217 Report

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this thing is really cool. i'm saying 99% it's fake. but that's infinitely better than all of the other "leaks" lately.

which have been 100% fake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:04:29 No.14091335 Report

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Are the points on Klinklang consistent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:06:22 No.14091355 Report

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>>14091187
>3D renders
Sounds neat, anyone have them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:08:28 No.14091385 Report

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>>14091187
OP wasn't trying to stir shit. They were just wondering why the length seems to change depending on the angle of the model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:27:38 No.14091680 Report

Quoted By: >>14091940

>>14091187
>all the people bitching fake got demolished by that guy making 3D renders.
Nope, nobody agreed with him. Everyone agreed his shitty 3D models didn't match the pictures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:29:38 No.14091749 Report

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>>14090882
spatial*

Still inconsistent with the shapes / angles / size

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:36:43 No.14091888 Report

Quoted By: >>14091905 >>14092063

>mfw no one can disprove Hawlucha yet.
sweet sweet week and a half left of believing I'll get a luchador bird, this is the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:37:56 No.14091905 Report

Quoted By: >>14091921 >>14091959

>>14091888
It was disproved long ago though. It has many inconsistencies.

Also, Hiro says is fake and polls show most people think it's fake.

Therefore, it's only a few delusional retards that think this will be real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:39:06 No.14091921 Report

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>>14091905
Hiro just said he found it hard to believe there would only be 70 pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:40:28 No.14091940 Report

Quoted By: >>14091992

>>14091680
Wow it's like you weren't even in the thread yesterday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:41:31 No.14091959 Report

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>>14091905
Hiro never said anything about him lmao

Stay mad, friend :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:43:30 No.14091992 Report

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>>14091940
His "3D model" was only the wing tips.

He had to redone it twice and he never made them match the picture.

He just showed random examples that do not match the picture to prove that the angle can make the wings look a bit different.

However, he did not attempt for obvious reasons to show his 3D model would look exactly like the fake models. Likely because he couldn't make it match the size distortion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2013 23:48:37 No.14092063 Report

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>>14091888
>enjoying being deluded
It's like you hate being right or something.

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