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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:09:21 No.14123190 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14123266 >>14123388 >>14123666 >>14123807 >>14123925 >>14125148 >>14125426 >>14129429 >>14129490

HAHAHAHA, FIRE/DRAGON CONFIRMED

TAKE YOUR SNEAKY PEBBLES MEME AND PUT IT UP YOUR ASS, FUCKING FAGGOTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:10:59 No.14123225 Report

Quoted By: >>14123267 >>14123408

You do realize that Charizard doesn't enter the battle in Mega X mode, right? He'll will still get raped by them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:11:12 No.14123230 Report

Quoted By: >>14125914

megas banned by smogon, confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:11:14 No.14123234 Report

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Don't you send them out and THEN mega evolve them? He's still gonna get wrecked by sodomizing sediment.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:11:43 No.14123250 Report

Quoted By: >>14123267 >>14129139

It's still fire/flying when it switches in retard, unless this thing has 200 base HP it will be just as worthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:12:18 No.14123265 Report

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>>14123234
On the plus side, fire's fairy resistance will mean it'll take neutral damage from fairy type attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:12:21 No.14123266 Report

Quoted By: >>14123383

>>14123190
>not levitate
>EQ may may incoming xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:12:22 No.14123267 Report

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>>14123250
>>14123234
>>14123225
>mega evolution doesn't make you lose a turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:13:13 No.14123287 Report

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>>14123267
>you still have to send him out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:13:36 No.14123298 Report

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>>14123267
>missing the point

You can't Mega Evolve and switch at the same time. You switch in, take the SR damage, then the next turn when you can actually make a move THEN you mega evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:13:47 No.14123305 Report

Quoted By: >>14123344 >>14123351 >>14123581 >>14124870

>>14123287
>thanks to that can participate in sky battles
>only dragon that can do it
CHARIZARD = BEST POKEMON EVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:14:22 No.14123320 Report

Quoted By: >>14123397

>>14123267
You still have to switch Charizard in. He takes the Stealth Rock damage.

THEN you can Mega Evolve him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:15:23 No.14123344 Report

Quoted By: >>14129066

>>14123305
>transform him in a sky battle
>he falls 200 feet and dies

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:15:51 No.14123351 Report

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>>14123305

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:16:07 No.14123361 Report

Quoted By: >>14123397

>>14123267
You can't Mega Evolve until after you switch. Charizard X still gets wrecked by pebbles if it doesn't Mega before they're set down, but that makes it vulnerable to Spikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:00 No.14123380 Report

Quoted By: >>14123393

so is the black color scheme not affected by whether it's shiny or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:06 No.14123383 Report

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>>14123266
considering it feeps flying until mega form and mega form is instant before next attack, It's gonna be hard to predict if the opponent will mega or not. Using EQ because your opponent jsut sent charizard is a stupid move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:25 No.14123385 Report

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X MASTER RACE REPORTING IN

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:26 No.14123386 Report

Quoted By: >>14123416 >>14123424

But dear Charizard. You still need to be sent out as Fire/Flying before you can transform.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:32 No.14123388 Report

Quoted By: >>14123423

>>14123190

oh goodie

also no drought to boost its fire stab moves aparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:38 No.14123393 Report

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>>14123380
>shiny gets red

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:46 No.14123395 Report

Quoted By: >>14123982

>Mega Charizard X's Ability also changes to Tough Claws, which raises the power of moves that make direct contact.

BUTTON CONFIRMED
BUTTON CONFIRMED
BUTTON CONFIRMED
BUTTON CONFIRMED

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:49 No.14123397 Report

Quoted By: >>14123462

>>14123320
>>14123361
>What is rapid spin support

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:17:51 No.14123400 Report

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You realize it's still fire/flying when it's sent out, right?

After that all it takes is a faster mon with a rock move to clip the other wing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:18:12 No.14123408 Report

Quoted By: >>14123530

>>14123225
>>14123234
Although this will depend on how Megas work after they switch. Say you send Charizard as a lead, mega transform it and then switch the next turn. If megas don't turn to normal after that, then it's protected, if not then it's getting raped anyway.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:18:41 No.14123416 Report

Quoted By: >>14123438

>>14123386
Are you going to set up stones before the match even begins?

>not leading with Charizard
>2013

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:18:47 No.14123421 Report

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Couldn't you just roost off the SR damage

Fire/Dragon is really good coverage in itself. Subbing out Roost for Earthquake let's it kill Heatran, though.

I dunno. Wildly speculating zzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:18:48 No.14123423 Report

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>>14123388
Fire resists Fairy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:18:49 No.14123424 Report

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>>14123386

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:19:21 No.14123438 Report

Quoted By: >>14123534 >>14123547

>>14123416
>leading with Charizard X

There is a reason why Charizard Y is superior as a suicide lead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:20:07 No.14123453 Report

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Why bother with airing Pokemon The Origin in English when the whole fucking point of the special was to reveal this shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:20:16 No.14123462 Report

Quoted By: >>14123697

>>14123397
>what are ghost types

>which have been buffed

Pepples goin' nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:20:58 No.14123474 Report

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>not using baton pass user to get charizard in safely

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:21:15 No.14123487 Report

Quoted By: >>14123504 >>14123559

>loses Flying STAB
>gains Atk

Goddamn. I want to use Swords Dance+Acrobatics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:21:56 No.14123504 Report

Quoted By: >>14123526

>>14123487
>Acrobatics
>while being forced to hold a stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:22:55 No.14123526 Report

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>>14123504
Never thought that through.

I'm getting Y anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:23:06 No.14123530 Report

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>>14123408

This is a poor strategy. There are going to be anti-leads specifically for Megas. It makes more sense in doubles because you can rage powder+mega evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:23:10 No.14123534 Report

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>>14123438
Charizard Y is a waste of a Mega. Ninetales does the job better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:23:39 No.14123547 Report

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>>14123438
there is nothing suicide about his lead, its blazekin speed boosting tier lead

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:23:50 No.14123552 Report

Quoted By: >>14123569 >>14123586 >>14123587

>still starts as fire/flying
>still at least 2x weak to SR and rock moves so a stray rock slide could finish it

On top of that it gets a dragon weakness, loses the fairy resistance, and loses the ground immunity.

But who cares, muh dragon 'zard!

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:24:04 No.14123558 Report

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Great...More dragones to devour...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:24:05 No.14123559 Report

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>>14123487
>Acrobatics

Completely useless without a Flying Gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:24:30 No.14123569 Report

Quoted By: >>14123591 >>14123648

>>14123552
>Fire type resists Fairy

Based Charizard X is going to rape the shit out of fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:25:02 No.14123580 Report

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>people actually thinking the Mega Evolution won't happen before SR damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:25:04 No.14123581 Report

Quoted By: >>14126287

>>14123305
>implying Flygon isn't a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:25:14 No.14123586 Report

Quoted By: >>14123633 >>14124097

>>14123552

And loses a Water weakness, gains an Electric resistance, and most importantly a FUCKING DRAGON STAB. Perfect coverage! Oh wait...fucking Fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:25:15 No.14123587 Report

Quoted By: >>14123633

>>14123552
Charizard never had a fairy resistance you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:25:20 No.14123591 Report

Quoted By: >>14123611 >>14123663

>>14123569
>dragon type is weak to fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:25:32 No.14123598 Report

Quoted By: >>14123780

Can you hear that, /vp/?

Charizard is finally in OU where he belongs like a swagging boss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:26:03 No.14123611 Report

Quoted By: >>14123663 >>14123676

>>14123591
>fire resists Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:26:43 No.14123620 Report

Quoted By: >>14123669

Are we forgetting Ground-type moves?
Earthquake anal raping?
The new Fairy-Type bringing Dragons to their wussy knees?

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:27:14 No.14123633 Report

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>>14123586
You still got fire moves.

>>14123587
Fire resists fairy bruh. Charizard's got fairy resistance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:27:21 No.14123639 Report

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What do you guys think that ability will do? +30% damage to claw attacks? That would mean a Dragon Claw almost as strong as Outrage, without the negatives!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:27:49 No.14123648 Report

Quoted By: >>14123794

>>14123569

Yes, and Charizard Y fits that role much better than Charizard X.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:27:58 No.14123653 Report

Quoted By: >>14123673

Fucking preorder cancelled on Y, preorder placed on X instead

Guys what does the shiny gonna look like??? If it's already black, where can they go from here???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:28:48 No.14123663 Report

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>>14123611
>>14123591
>MegaCharizard X takes neutral damage from fairy moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:28:53 No.14123666 Report

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>>14123190
You still need to send out a normal Charizard to get him to mega evolve. So you get a slow dragon type who with be outclassed by mega chomp and mega mence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:29:17 No.14123669 Report

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>>14123620
Normal Charizard will still be flying type before going Mega. Are you confident enough that your opponent will transform or will you lose a turn because immunity? Though, Fire/Dragon still has a x2 rock weakness, the safe bet is going with rock slide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:29:25 No.14123673 Report

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>>14123653
normal colors lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:29:27 No.14123676 Report

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>>14123611
and ice too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:30:17 No.14123692 Report

Quoted By: >>14123767

>>14123547
Hey, hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:30:33 No.14123697 Report

Quoted By: >>14123747 >>14124453

>>14123462
>what is foresight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:31:13 No.14123717 Report

Quoted By: >>14123748 >>14131008

Over and over I'm being amazed at the changes X/Y brings.

Fairy type. Sylveon. Steel nerf. 3D. Doublade. And now this,

All I need is RSE-style contests to come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:31:49 No.14123738 Report

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>>14123534

Charizard Y is useful for changing the weather back if you're in a battle between two weather teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:32:07 No.14123747 Report

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>>14123697
wasting a turn of foresight against gengar or any other anti spiker?
DO YOU EVEN META

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:32:10 No.14123748 Report

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>>14123717
>wanting contents
i mean, they weren't bad, but they are pretty low on the 'old features i want back' list

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:32:33 No.14123767 Report

Quoted By: >>14123829

>>14123692
hes gonna bellydrum the fuck out of bitches

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:33:02 No.14123780 Report

Quoted By: >>14123821 >>14126477

>>14123598
>being dragon type makes you OU

>people forgetting he's still 4x weak to pebbles and loses his fighting resist upon transforming

Holy shit that's REALLY bad. At least most pokemon with a weakness to pebbles do well against fighting types.

Yeah, maybe Charizard Y will be OU because it's more offensive than Ninetales.

X might be RU and viable in UU.

Then again, charizard itself might shoot to OU because smogon hates complex bans, so the fact that the Y forme has drought might ban Charizard entirely from the lower tiers.

So expect to never see vanilla Charizard or Charizard X like, ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:33:32 No.14123794 Report

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>>14123648
You'll never be able to switch it in those because Stealth Rock exists.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:34:10 No.14123807 Report

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>>14123190
hahahahaha top post OP /10

made me lol

Genwunner here, suck it 'every-other-gen' newfags

Also Charizard was my fav starter as kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:34:44 No.14123821 Report

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>>14123780
you realize fire/dragon is one of the best typings in the whole game, it would never be lower than UU

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:35:11 No.14123829 Report

Quoted By: >>14123865

>>14123767
>lose half of HP to sneaky stones
>can't belly drum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:35:27 No.14123836 Report

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Guys, we still don't know what his stats will be. He might have 150 base Attack and then all your "muh cobblestones" goes out of the window.

captcha: checkds shall

fuck yes

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:36:04 No.14123853 Report

Quoted By: >>14123893 >>14123898 >>14123929

Sooooooooooo... for taking part in sky battles his ability has to be Levitate, am i rite?

And this is cool, always dreamt of my Jigglypuff OHKO a Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:36:05 No.14123854 Report

Quoted By: >>14123877

It *was* one of the best types in the game when only steel resisted dragon.

Guess what, boyo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:36:41 No.14123865 Report

Quoted By: >>14129125

>>14123829
why are you fooling yourself? that move is getting cut from the game
this is the charizard generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:37:17 No.14123877 Report

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>>14123854

Flare Blitz and your precious Sylveon dies, that's what.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:37:48 No.14123891 Report

Quoted By: >>14123926

Am I the only one who is kinda disappointed by Megacharizard X?
MegaCharizard looked edgy enough and now we've got this, all I can think of is that GF is trying hard to please the genwunners by making it Fire/Dragon.

It's not going to make me cancel my preorder but still left a bitter taste in my mouth.
Not only that but now it seems that we're probably not going to get MegaSwampert and what not.
I guess I like the idea of all the starters getting a MegaEvolution to make them more viable and to make them more differentiated from other pokemon of the same type.
Ah well, I guess I'm just a buttmad faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:37:50 No.14123893 Report

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>>14123853
no, hes getting an iron fist type ability that is applied to all physical moves.
you will notice in the video hes not flapping his wings anymore, hes just gliding around up there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:38:00 No.14123898 Report

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>>14123853
Are you illiterate?

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:38:45 No.14123907 Report

Quoted By: >>14123947 >>14123965 >>14123998

Hey there, big boy.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:39:44 No.14123925 Report

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>>14123190

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:39:48 No.14123926 Report

Quoted By: >>14124068

>>14123891
>genwunners
does it hurt you that you are starting to realize how gamefreak and nintendo officially recognize the first gen as the best gen? thats why they have so many first gen pokemon in the game.
they arent politicians, there is no pandering, they are simply using their best material.

charizard is the ultimate pokemon, that was officially said by iwata

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:39:58 No.14123929 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123853
Fire resist Fairy, newfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:40:50 No.14123947 Report

Quoted By: >>14123990 >>14123995

>>14123907
>neutrality against water and fairy
Try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:41:19 No.14123965 Report

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>>14123907
Do you even Dragon type resistances?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:42:08 No.14123982 Report

Quoted By: >>14125261

>>14123395
>Flare Blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:42:45 No.14123990 Report

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>>14123947
the point is azumarill resists fire and is immune to dragon nitwit, not even who posted

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:42:51 No.14123995 Report

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>>14123947
Don't forget Ice!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:43:07 No.14123998 Report

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>>14123907

Ability: Tough Claws

Nullifies immunities to Claw attacks.

Serebii confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:47:01 No.14124068 Report

Quoted By: >>14127904

>>14123926
>Gen 1
>Best Gen
Bwhahaha that's a good one. Gen one was riddled with glitches and bugs and from a design aspect it's atrocious.
There is pandering, pandering to try and bring back genwunners to the series because they are now the ones with more disposable income. Although I would like a link to where Iwata said that Charizard is the "ultimate pokemon" that wasn't used to try and hype up the new megaevolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:48:31 No.14124097 Report

Quoted By: >>14124117

>>14123586
>fire/dragon
>perfect coverage
le heatran face

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:49:33 No.14124117 Report

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>>14124097
le Earthquake face

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:49:52 No.14124121 Report

Quoted By: >>14124225

i dont understand why people getting so hype when all Y charizard needs is good speed since it should be getting more sp.atk and it will be a better ninetales that seems way more useful to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:55:12 No.14124225 Report

Quoted By: >>14124691

>>14124121
You have to stay in with it for Drought to go off.

That already makes it shittier than Ninetales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:58:24 No.14124300 Report

Quoted By: >>14124311 >>14124332

Okay so charizard X is Dragon, then how are its moves going to work? Charizard only learns two dragon moves, will the mega evolve change its moves? I'm so confused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 12:59:01 No.14124311 Report

Quoted By: >>14124394

>>14124300

They'll just give him new ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:00:03 No.14124332 Report

Quoted By: >>14124394

>>14124300
The movepool will be changed a little. Probablythrough breeding and tutors.
I can already see a tutor that gives moves to pokes that can megaform.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:02:56 No.14124394 Report

Quoted By: >>14124498

>>14124311
>>14124332
>Please GF give us more than four move slots

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:05:18 No.14124453 Report

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>>14123697
>foresight
>viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:06:23 No.14124477 Report

Quoted By: >>14124495 >>14124635

You still have to switch the fucking Charizard in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:07:55 No.14124495 Report

Quoted By: >>14124600 >>14124601 >>14124624

>>14124477
Stealth rock will be history, since Charizard X will switch in with Fire/Dragon type. I am sure he will still be mega evolved when he's switched back in after mega evolving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:08:03 No.14124498 Report

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>>14124394
No. limitations is what makes the game interesting. I actually love that gen6 offers so much stuff that it's gonna be hard as shit to have cookie cutter teams ready against everything with perfect coverage and resists like in the current metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:10:17 No.14124554 Report

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It's funny how this new form is being used so people forget about the starter evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:12:34 No.14124600 Report

Quoted By: >>14124770

>>14124495
I'm sorry, were you dropped as a child? YOU STILL HAVE TO SWITCH THE FUCKING CHARIZARD IN. CHARIZARD IS FIRE/FLYING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:12:33 No.14124601 Report

Quoted By: >>14124635 >>14124658

>>14124495
You have to megaevolve the pokemon after it's been switched in.

Sure you can megaevolve the first turn it's out before the opponent attacks, but SR still hits the Fire/Flying faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:13:47 No.14124624 Report

Quoted By: >>14124658

>>14124495
You have to turn him into Mega-evolution first, so he won't start out that way. He still has a 50 percent Stealth Rock weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:14:24 No.14124635 Report

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>>14124601
>>14124477 here. Just confirming I'm not the guy using caps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:15:34 No.14124658 Report

Quoted By: >>14124678 >>14124687

>>14124624
>>14124601

Mega Evolve Charizard at the start as a lead BEFORE pebbles are out, then switch out if needed. Since Mega Evolution lasts the rest of the battle he will be going in as fire/dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:16:41 No.14124678 Report

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>>14124658
>Since Mega Evolution lasts the rest of the battle
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:17:11 No.14124687 Report

Quoted By: >>14124797

>>14124658
The only good reason to start with a Charizard would be if you were using the Drought Megaform

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:17:18 No.14124691 Report

Quoted By: >>14124761

>>14124225
Fuck me are you serious?

That kills everything i had planned,it had alright spdef would get better sp.atk could 1 hit solar beam shit outta politoed ugh...fucking game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:21:23 No.14124761 Report

Quoted By: >>14124976

>>14124691
Well if you plan to just use it for offensive purposes then it is better, since if you're keeping it in then you can mega-evolve for Drought easily.

It's just that you can't suicide swap it in or double switch unlike with Ninetales

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:21:53 No.14124770 Report

Quoted By: >>14124815 >>14124819

>>14124600
what is leading with charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:22:56 No.14124797 Report

Quoted By:

>>14124687
or if you can get rid of half of stealth rock damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:23:02 No.14124801 Report

Quoted By:

Now we just need a Flying/Psychic Honchkrow mega evo so Honchkrow can beat Machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:23:54 No.14124815 Report

Quoted By:

>>14124770
because that totally helped 4x rock weak pokemon before right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:24:11 No.14124819 Report

Quoted By: >>14126007

>>14124770
>wasting your first turn setting up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:26:21 No.14124866 Report

Quoted By: >>14125023

I will laugh at all you "muh rocks" screaming faggots, when it becomes apparent that rocks will be irrelevant to X/Y competitive.

DRAGONZARD TAKING OVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:26:32 No.14124870 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123305
>Salamence

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:26:41 No.14124872 Report

Quoted By: >>14125207

>mfw Charizard was an amazing opener in Gen4, and didn't have to worry about Stealth Rock as your opener
>mfw I will get to use him again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:32:00 No.14124976 Report

Quoted By:

>>14124761
Yeh that's what just hit me if they see a charizard in my team there gonna assume its for mega drought send out something faster that can kill it before there poli just in case and either get the KO or a free stab on what ever i switch in.Even if i could uturn to that shit after starter it still needs a turn to set up meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:32:12 No.14124981 Report

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Next question, is if this mega is worth using over other megas in competitive. Can't say myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:34:14 No.14125023 Report

Quoted By: >>14125324

>>14124866

If sneaky pebbles are nerfed, I will cry tears of joy. Pokemon competitive might actually be fun again instead of bending backwards just to accommodate a single move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:40:16 No.14125148 Report

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>>14123190
Rocks and Earthquake still hurt you, asshole.

Enjoy Draco Meteor when it wrecks your face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:42:09 No.14125184 Report

Quoted By: >>14125214 >>14125233

I think they try to make X the boi and Y the grill version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:43:02 No.14125207 Report

Quoted By: >>14125241

>>14124872
Gen 4 was when Stealth Rock was introduced, retard.

Even before that, Charizard was useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:43:30 No.14125214 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125184
>not knowing how chromosomes work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:44:21 No.14125233 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125184
XX is female, XY is male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:44:40 No.14125241 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125207
>charizard
>useless in gen 2 and 3

I'm all for putting genwunners in their place but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Bellyzard was deadly once you got the bulky water out of the way

Lizerd

Lizerd Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:45:28 No.14125261 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123982
>Ball Room Blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:48:07 No.14125324 Report

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>>14125023
As a person who lives ice types, sooooo much this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:50:39 No.14125394 Report

Quoted By: >>14125455 >>14125700 >>14125763

Better not believe youre the shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:52:22 No.14125426 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123190

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 13:53:33 No.14125455 Report

Quoted By: >>14125623 >>14125657 >>14128445

>>14125394
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:01:40 No.14125623 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125455
Dragonfags, pls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:03:12 No.14125657 Report

Quoted By: >>14126067

>>14125455
Jesus, you are so mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:05:21 No.14125700 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125394
As if Jigglypuff could even take a hit from a boosted Charizard
Honestly it can't do much of anything really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:07:57 No.14125763 Report

Quoted By: >>14125792

>>14125394
>Neutral damage + Jigglypuff 's Atk or Sp. atk stat
>anything to be afraid of
pick one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:09:01 No.14125792 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125763
>predict outrage
>perish song

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:13:14 No.14125914 Report

Quoted By: >>14126211

>>14123230
Megas make pokemon uber-tier.
So shit like Metwo Y scares me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:14:30 No.14125950 Report

Quoted By:

> looses its ground immunity

Wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:16:12 No.14126007 Report

Quoted By:

>>14124819
>Mega Evolve into STAB/Tough Claw Outrage
>All in 1st turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:18:07 No.14126067 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125657
>umad ;DD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:18:31 No.14126077 Report

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I preordered both X & Y, will I be able to get the mega stone in one game, have charmander hold it, move it to the Pokebank, and move it to the other game? If so, this could be great. I can just change the stones before battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:23:19 No.14126211 Report

Quoted By:

>>14125914
I hope we get Mega Arceus so people can scream in terror.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:26:09 No.14126287 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123581
>Levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:27:56 No.14126347 Report

Quoted By: >>14126459

Why is no one complaining about its hideousness?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:32:10 No.14126459 Report

Quoted By: >>14126486 >>14126536 >>14126618 >>14130774

>>14126347
I was sort of thinking this
it's not even that bad in the art, but holy shit that model is fucking ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:32:52 No.14126477 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123780
>I can into a metagame for a game that hasn't even come out yet
Sick psychic skills, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:33:08 No.14126486 Report

Quoted By:

>>14126459
It gives me boner
no homo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:34:42 No.14126536 Report

Quoted By:

>>14126459
its because the fire isnt acting like fire, its like a solid sash. Reminds me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWB_COSUXMw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 14:37:34 No.14126618 Report

Quoted By:

>>14126459
>that ugly fire
>those arms
>unnecessary shoulder spikes

shit/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 15:22:09 No.14127904 Report

Quoted By: >>14129529

>>14124068
> Gen one was riddled with glitches and bugs and from a design aspect it's atrocious.
> Judging a game from almost 20 years ago for its glitches
> Stating that the designs of the first Pokemon are, not only "not better than the newer designs", but are "atrocious"

Here's the thing, son. Some games win a greater fanbase when their sequels are released, because there is a lot of improvement. Pokemon went the way backwards. And you still want me to believe that the games only got better? Of course, they had better graphics and mechanics, it's been 20 FUCKING YEARS, is the minimum improvement you would expect from a product. Now, no game had the same levels of innovation and creativity as Red and Blue did. You can accept that fact or not. Does not change the truth: Pokemon Red and Blue are the best games in the franchise by far. And proof of it is that Gamefreak have been trying to repeat it's success unsuccssefully since Gold and Silver.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 15:42:08 No.14128445 Report

Quoted By: >>14129376

>>14125455
>as you can see by these internet comics we are gonna wreck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:08:55 No.14129066 Report

Quoted By: >>14129344

>>14123344
Would be really funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:11:44 No.14129125 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123865
How great would that be if it was completely cut from the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:12:18 No.14129139 Report

Quoted By: >>14129555

>>14123250
Why not have him out as the first pokemon so he can Mega Evolve on the spot, before stealth rocks?

And isn't it still going to be 2x on him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:18:54 No.14129291 Report

Quoted By: >>14129512

>megaevolve into MegaCharizard X
>gets earthquaked to death

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:21:09 No.14129344 Report

Quoted By: >>14129438

>>14129066

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:22:29 No.14129376 Report

Quoted By:

>>14128445
The comic's right though, Jigglypuff will still be shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:23:02 No.14129396 Report

Quoted By:

Pokemon don't become their Megas until they switch out.
Sneaky Pebbles will still fuck the shit out of Charizard every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:24:30 No.14129429 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123190
I'm at the point where I don't give a shit anymore. Whatever is revealed I can just accept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:24:57 No.14129438 Report

Quoted By:

>>14129344
>item and megastone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:26:47 No.14129490 Report

Quoted By: >>14129537 >>14129549

>>14123190
>yfw it becomes Dragon AFTER getting that hazard damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:27:40 No.14129512 Report

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>>14129291
Implying anything can survive Charixard's righteous flames long enough to pull off an Earthquake. Besides why would you use Earthquake anyway? Going with the safer options of Stone Edge or Rock Slide makes way more sense given regular Charizard is immune to ground and the switch happens before any attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:28:22 No.14129529 Report

Quoted By:

>>14127904
>no game had the same levels of innovation and creativity as Red and Blue did
You've never played a single Megami Tensei or Dragon Quest game, clearly.

Also, B2&W2 are objectively the best in the series, even above my personal favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:28:54 No.14129537 Report

Quoted By:

>>14129490
>yfw Stealth Rock doesn't work in Sky Battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:29:18 No.14129549 Report

Quoted By: >>14130267

>>14129490
That doesn't mean shit, you get your full HP back when going MEGA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:29:31 No.14129555 Report

Quoted By:

>>14129139
>>14129139
>>14129139
>>14129139
Anyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:34:27 No.14129687 Report

Quoted By: >>14129769

>Go, Charizard!
>Pointed Rocks dig into Charizard.
>What? Charizard is Mega-Evolving?
dun duh, dun duh, dun duh, dunnah dun dah, dun dah... doo doo doo, dottutududoodoodu
>Congratulations, your Charizard evolved into Mega Charizard X!
>Mega Charizard X is hurt by Spikes
>Mega Charizard X became Poisoned

>yfw switching in Mega Charizard X into Stealth Rock+3 layers of Spikes+1 layer of Toxic Spikes, he will only have 12.5% health left
>Even if your opponent never attacks, you only have 1 turn to do something with Mega Charizard X

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:37:17 No.14129769 Report

Quoted By: >>14129876 >>14130089

>>14129687
>Go, Volcarona!
>Pointed Rocks dig into Volcarona.
>Volcarona is hurt by Spikes
>Volcarona became Poisoned

>yfw switching in Volcarona into Stealth Rock+3 layers of Spikes+1 layer of Toxic Spikes, he will only have 12.5% health left
>Even if your opponent never attacks, you only have 1 turn to do something with Volarona

Eat shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:40:58 No.14129876 Report

Quoted By: >>14129937

>>14129769
At least Volcorama is actuarry useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:43:44 No.14129937 Report

Quoted By: >>14130082 >>14130156

>>14129876
So is Charizard X, moreso than Volcarona

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:47:03 No.14130015 Report

Quoted By: >>14130128 >>14130177

>first Dragon-type that is 4x weak to rock
Congratulations!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:48:29 No.14130048 Report

Quoted By:

It now gets hit by EQ, superffectively so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:49:44 No.14130082 Report

Quoted By: >>14130201

>>14129937
>saying something is useful before being even able to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:50:01 No.14130089 Report

Quoted By: >>14130316

>>14129769
You seem to be implying people use Volcarona without heavy Rapid Spin support. Do you even competitive, cunt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:50:19 No.14130100 Report

Quoted By: >>14130305

how do you mega evolve?
I know you wear the item but does it take up a moveslot?
From what you guys are saying itt, mega evolving isn't automatic. So do we get a new button or wat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:51:09 No.14130121 Report

Quoted By: >>14130606

I missed just about everything last night/early this morning.

Mega X? What is this shit? Where's the X come from? Why are we totally entering Digimon mode now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:51:27 No.14130128 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130015
Wow, calling you a retard would be an euphemism.
If it's a dragon, he can't be 4x weak to rock, no matter what the second type is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:52:31 No.14130156 Report

Quoted By:

>>14129937
Volc doesn't have to waste an item just to become useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:53:18 No.14130177 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130015
Are you Stupid, it gets x2 Damage from Rock, Neutral Damage from Water, Electric and Fairy since its Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:54:34 No.14130201 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130082
>saying something isn't useful before even able to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:56:42 No.14130267 Report

Quoted By:

>>14129549

wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:58:03 No.14130305 Report

Quoted By: >>14130380

>>14130100
You equip the item and before your first action you mega evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 16:58:21 No.14130316 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130089
I never implied that.

If Volcarona was put into that same extreme and ridiculous situation, he'd be equally fucked up.

People are trying to illustrate extreme scenarios to make a Pokemon look bad. Anyone with half a brain would use Rapid Spin support, whether they're using Volcarona/Mega Charizard X or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:01:04 No.14130380 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130305
people itt are saying that it isn't automatic though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:01:23 No.14130393 Report

Quoted By: >>14130470

>____ used Earthquake
>It's Super Effective!
>Charizard has fainted.
Eat shit Charfags.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:04:56 No.14130470 Report

Quoted By: >>14130506 >>14130556

>>14130393
>Phanpy used Earthquake
>It's Super Effective!
>Heatran has fainted.
Weaknesses do not make a Pokemon bad.

Is Scizor shit because it's x4 weak to Fire? Is Rayquaza, Garchomp, Salamence and Dragonite shit because they're x4 weak to Ice? Is T-Tar shit because it's x4 weak to Fighting? Is Volcarona shit because it's x4 weak to Rock?

Go kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:05:34 No.14130492 Report

Quoted By:

so some serious questions here

does mega evolving have priority or do you have to rely on charizards 100 base speed? if it gets priority does that then use the new charizards base speed, if its higher? or does it then go to the enemy's turn if their speed was higher than regular charizard?

>do I like charizard?
yes
>do I think current charizard is shit, even in NU?
kek, he's so fucking garbage

this is just information that I find relevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:06:08 No.14130506 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130470
>Is Scizor shit because it's x4 weak to Fire? Is Rayquaza, Garchomp, Salamence and Dragonite shit because they're x4 weak to Ice? Is T-Tar shit because it's x4 weak to Fighting? Is Volcarona shit because it's x4 weak to Rock?
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:07:38 No.14130556 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130470
>Is Scizor shit because it's x4 weak to Fire?
Honestly, if you take out technician, scizor would get raped by pretty much everything with a bit of fire.
> Is Rayquaza, Garchomp, Salamence and Dragonite shit because they're x4 weak to Ice? Is T-Tar shit because it's x4 weak to Fighting?
Legends and pseudos
>s Volcarona shit because it's x4 weak to Rock?
Needs a spinner to even work decently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:09:58 No.14130606 Report

Quoted By:

>>14130121
Being referred to as Mega X as that form is in Pokemon X and the other form is in Pokemon Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:14:36 No.14130774 Report

Quoted By:

>>14126459
dat color scheme
cum all over my dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Oct 2013 17:21:01 No.14131008 Report

Quoted By:

>>14123717
>All I need is RSE-style contests to come back.
allofmymoney.jpg

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