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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 00:54:27 No.14151741 View View Reply Original Report

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Congratulations Lizardon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 00:58:43 No.14151952 Report

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after all these years

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 00:59:43 No.14152005 Report

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:01:49 No.14152105 Report

Quoted By: >>14152406 >>14152737

>fire/dragon
>not weak to Ice

This fucker will be in my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:02:28 No.14152130 Report

Quoted By: >>14152165 >>14152222 >>14152403 >>14153730

>>14152005
>has to enter before it mega-evolves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:02:55 No.14152149 Report

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>>14152005
>sodomizing sediment

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:03:11 No.14152165 Report

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>>14152130
>not sending him first

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:04:18 No.14152222 Report

Quoted By: >>14152591

>>14152130
>leading with him
>leading with him and switching
>rapid spin support
>baton pass
>many more

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:04:42 No.14152243 Report

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>>14152165
>implying sneaky pebbles would matter to begin with in that situation

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:06:27 No.14152328 Report

Quoted By: >>14152392 >>14152413 >>14152452 >>14152457 >>14152508

sorry mega charizard x, youve met your match

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:07:39 No.14152392 Report

Quoted By: >>14152567 >>14152830

>>14152328
Water moves won't work that well against Mega Charizard X.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:07:54 No.14152403 Report

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>>14152130

>implying he won't be leading

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:08:00 No.14152406 Report

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>>14152105
>MFW it's not weak to Fairy either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:08:06 No.14152413 Report

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>>14152328
Neutral damage vs neutral damage.
Sure showed him

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:08:11 No.14152418 Report

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>>14152243
*smogon stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:08:52 No.14152452 Report

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>>14152328
>neutral damage
pffffff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:08:58 No.14152457 Report

Quoted By: >>14152763 >>14152830

>>14152328

>FIRE/DRAGON

Nice try

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:10:04 No.14152508 Report

Quoted By: >>14152830

>>14152328
Fire can handle Fairy, you faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:11:04 No.14152567 Report

Quoted By: >>14152619

>>14152392
Azumarill is immune to dragon, and resists fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:11:36 No.14152591 Report

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>>14152222
>Ghost types
>things that outclass Charizard in every way, shape and form

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:12:09 No.14152619 Report

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>>14152567

Charizard X is ment for using physical moves, theres not gonna be any fire

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:12:41 No.14152640 Report

Quoted By: >>14155614

>>14152406
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:14:32 No.14152737 Report

Quoted By: >>14153539

>>14152105
Ice? Not weak to WATER! The only other Fire-type not weak to water was Reshiram. It can stand in the face of Rain's bulky nonsense and set up Sunny Day or Roost or Dragon Dance or fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:15:05 No.14152763 Report

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>>14152457
oh, i forgot dragon resists water...hmm

well i guess ill be sticking with ground types

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:15:06 No.14152764 Report

Quoted By: >>14152840 >>14152877 >>14152900

>everyone bitching how Sneaky Pebbles will ruin Charizard
>not just running it with Rapid Spin Support like any normal person

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:16:37 No.14152830 Report

Quoted By: >>14152967 >>14153218 >>14153271 >>14153375 >>14153468 >>14153527

>>14152392
>>14152452
>>14152457
>>14152508
>>14152413
>people forgetting Huge Power, Choice Banded, Aqua Jet exists

Charizardfags are so blind to the facts

Also >not running damage calcs

And I'm being generous with using Reshiram as a Mega Charizard X analogue, it'll probably be even more frail than Reshiram, even if its attack is stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:16:54 No.14152840 Report

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>>14152764
That game was so fucking worth it for just that gif

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:17:40 No.14152877 Report

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>>14152764
>Ghosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:18:02 No.14152900 Report

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>>14152764
>wasting a turn with Rapid Spin
>not setting up your pokemon to defeat your oponent's whole team and not having to switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:19:15 No.14152967 Report

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>>14152830
This, you faglords

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:19:48 No.14153002 Report

Quoted By: >>14153067

so what im getting from this is charizard Y will be more offensive because of drought and stab fire. then charizard X will be more durable, no longer taking massive damage from sneaky pebbles and even tough claws might help out a bit. I still want to use charizard Y though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:21:09 No.14153067 Report

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>>14153002
I don't think you want to use Charizard X if you want durable. It's still very frail, and doesn't receive a boost in HP, Def, or Sp. Def.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:23:50 No.14153218 Report

Quoted By: >>14153271 >>14153527

>>14152830
And using Charizard's standard defensive stats, which probably will remain unchanged through Mega Evolution, we get this

So, Azumarril will be able to tank a hit from Charizard, most likely, and be able to hit back for a OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:24:59 No.14153271 Report

Quoted By: >>14153375

>>14153218
>>14152830
I love how the Charitards stopped talking once the damage calcs were brought up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:26:58 No.14153375 Report

Quoted By: >>14153442

>>14153271
>>14152830
>comparing reshiram to charizard
>Not realizing how 2stronk4u charizard really is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:28:27 No.14153442 Report

Quoted By: >>14153511

>>14153375
>Reshiram has better stats than Charizard all around

u wot m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:29:05 No.14153468 Report

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>>14152830
>Charizard X ability boosted thunderpunch

kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:30:06 No.14153511 Report

Quoted By: >>14153566

>>14153442
>thats the point fucktard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:30:09 No.14153518 Report

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>>14153468
Would it KO it though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:30:20 No.14153527 Report

Quoted By: >>14153666 >>14153750

>>14152830
>>14153218
Hmmm... You guys do know that charizard in either form gets a massive offensive boost right?

One gets drought the other gets tough claws.
So wouldn't it have more than enough power to take on azumarill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:30:38 No.14153539 Report

Quoted By: >>14154743

>>14152737
Why would you use X to set up sunny day when Y brings infinite sun just by coming into play?

Hell, while X has to use self destructive moves like flare blitz and outrage, Y gets one turn solarbeams and heavily boosted fire blasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:31:09 No.14153566 Report

Quoted By: >>14153650

>>14153511
You didn't make a point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:32:45 No.14153650 Report

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>>14153566
He was making a funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:33:10 No.14153666 Report

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>>14153527
We're comparing Azumarril attacking Charizard here, not the other way around

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:34:15 No.14153718 Report

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>>14153666
Thanks for clearing that up satan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:34:36 No.14153730 Report

Quoted By: >>14153832 >>14153840

>>14152130
>Go Charizard!
>Charizard used Protector WHATEVER and Megavolved!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:34:59 No.14153750 Report

Quoted By: >>14153975

>>14153527
Yes we know, but how offensive will it be, or how will it affect a Fairy/Water type with Charizard's standard physical moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:36:55 No.14153832 Report

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>>14153730
Even Protect/Detect doesn't help against entry hazards.
By the time you can use them you've already entered.
Unless you're referring to something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:37:01 No.14153840 Report

Quoted By: >>14153866

>>14153730
>wasting a moveslot with Protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:37:39 No.14153866 Report

Quoted By: >>14153951

>>14153840
>not using protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:39:35 No.14153951 Report

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>>14153866
There's Pokemon that do well with Protect

Charizard is not one of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:39:56 No.14153967 Report

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>>14153518
a fucking azumarill? sharp claws, mega evo boosted, super effective? pretty sure. yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:40:05 No.14153975 Report

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>>14153750
Well he knows thunder punch with the possible 20% boost from tough claws. I'm too lazy to calculate it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:40:59 No.14154029 Report

Quoted By: >>14154129

>Mega Charizard X is Fire/Dragon
>Garchomp with Choice Scarf and Dragon Claw

gg no re

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:41:03 No.14154035 Report

Quoted By: >>14154078 >>14154114

...is there any Ground/Poison pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:41:27 No.14154049 Report

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>>14153967
tough claws* my bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:41:58 No.14154078 Report

Quoted By: >>14154133

>>14154035
Nidoking/queen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:42:32 No.14154114 Report

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>>14154035
Nidoking/queen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:42:50 No.14154129 Report

Quoted By: >>14154195

>>14154029
>Free switch into fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:43:01 No.14154133 Report

Quoted By: >>14154158

>>14154078
Oh fuck, that's it. I hope my nigga Nidoking can take a Mega Charizard X.
W-what if they give a mega to the nidos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:43:38 No.14154158 Report

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>>14154133

>Nidoemperor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:44:42 No.14154195 Report

Quoted By: >>14154393

>>14154129
>Mega Charizard is already out
>easily could predict a switch if you saw a Fairy-type in team preview
>use Earthquake instead, and even if no switch, STAB Earthquake on Mega Charizard

GG NO RE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:48:01 No.14154338 Report

Quoted By: >>14154426 >>14154681

>preordered Y
>chose fennekin as starter
>get the worst exclusives, megas, AND final evo

Game Freak is so cruel sometimes. Still sticking with original choices, but it is so hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:49:08 No.14154393 Report

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>>14154195
>overpredict and switch into anything else
seriously. it could go many ways brother. pokemon is not a one move scenario game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:49:55 No.14154426 Report

Quoted By: >>14154473 >>14154604

>>14154338
But anon, all the Mega Evolutions are the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:50:42 No.14154473 Report

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>>14154426
you forgot "in my opinion," anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:54:21 No.14154604 Report

Quoted By: >>14154718

>>14154426
The only one that grew on me was Mewtwo Y. Everything else is still shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:55:36 No.14154681 Report

Quoted By: >>14154832

>>14154338
You never know, Anon. They may just surprise you.
Looks aren't everything, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:56:14 No.14154718 Report

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>>14154604
Agreed, but the movie fucked it up

I just wanted it to be the original Mewtwo who unlocked his true potential in the movie, but noooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:56:47 No.14154735 Report

Quoted By: >>14154841

>>14152005
>only 2x weak to stealth rock instead of 4x
>now hittable with SE ground
imokwiththis.png

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:57:00 No.14154743 Report

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>>14153539

Y is getting walled by a Politoad or Tyranitar no matter what. Solarbeam is always a shitty idea.

>No sun boost
>No stab
>Free turns if opponent switches to Rain or Sandstorm

Might as well just use flamethrower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:58:44 No.14154832 Report

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>>14154681
That's why I'm sticking with it. Really hoping that Skrelp evo turns out nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 01:58:57 No.14154841 Report

Quoted By: >>14154893

>>14154735
>2x weak to stealth rock
>but has to be sent out in Charizard form first

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:00:20 No.14154893 Report

Quoted By: >>14154939 >>14154942

>>14154841
Why does no one realize this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:01:29 No.14154939 Report

Quoted By: >>14155061

>>14154893
Maybe because most will lead with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:01:33 No.14154942 Report

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>>14154893
Denial, and people thinking sending out Charizard first with no support is a good idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:04:01 No.14155061 Report

Quoted By: >>14155132

>>14154939
You would only talk about its durability to stealth rock when referring to switching in.

I doubt switching out a mega allows it to retain mega form, if that's what you were thinking.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:04:09 No.14155069 Report

Quoted By: >>14155094 >>14155105 >>14155147 >>14155235

Can my Bropoleon tank Mega Charizard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:04:51 No.14155094 Report

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>>14155069
Absolutely yes, and it'll probably be the one to counter it the most

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:05:08 No.14155105 Report

Quoted By: >>14155226 >>14155309

>>14155069
nope
it's doomed
accept it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:05:38 No.14155132 Report

Quoted By: >>14155156 >>14155174 >>14155229

>>14155061
>I doubt switching out a mega allows it to retain mega form
You are wrong. It retains the form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:05:59 No.14155147 Report

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>>14155069
Only if we get Mega Empoleon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:06:12 No.14155156 Report

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>>14155132
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:06:24 No.14155163 Report

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THERE SHE IS
MISS FIRE/DRAGON

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:06:37 No.14155174 Report

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>>14155132
Sorry for asking, but source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:07:33 No.14155226 Report

Quoted By: >>14155386

>>14155105
Steel got an offensive buff making Empoleon the most viable steel/water/ice offensive build due to defensive typing and move list.

The only problem it has would be speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:07:35 No.14155229 Report

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>>14155132
then that's that. lead, switch, rapid spin support, etc.
It's viable. It's happening. Im gonna run it, OU or not.
assuming anon is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:07:44 No.14155235 Report

Quoted By: >>14155277 >>14155280 >>14155546

>>14155069
can't Charizard use earthquake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:08:37 No.14155277 Report

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>>14155235
EQ, thunderpunch, brick break(lulz), etc.
amaving movepool this nigger has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:08:40 No.14155280 Report

Quoted By: >>14155431

>>14155235
Charizard is most sp. attacker ryt? I've rarely taken on attack charizards

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:09:16 No.14155309 Report

Quoted By: >>14155374

>>14155105
>Steel resists Dragon, and now also keeps Faries at bay
>doomed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:10:38 No.14155374 Report

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>>14155309
>What is earthquake?
Gee, I dont know what I could have possibly meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:10:49 No.14155386 Report

Quoted By: >>14155447

>>14155226
Steel is strong against and resists fairy. but loses its resistance to dark and ghost. I don't think it got much of an offensive boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:11:46 No.14155431 Report

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>>14155280

I believe Charizard X is more of a Physical Attacker, given the fact that its ability improves moves with direct contact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:12:02 No.14155447 Report

Quoted By: >>14155520

>>14155386
Fairy is a mainstay because dragon.
Ghost is not as common and most Dark is niche

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:13:17 No.14155520 Report

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>>14155447
Ghost is gonna be used a lot more this gen, I think. Gengar is gonna wreck, along with sludge bomb for anti-fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:13:50 No.14155546 Report

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>>14155235
Yeah, assuming dragon dance, flare blitz/fire punch, outrage/dragon claw/dragon rush(lel), and one coverage move, it'll basically come down to earthquake or thunderpunch for coverage.

I'd probably go with earthquake to get around heatran, who would otherwise wall it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:15:06 No.14155614 Report

Quoted By: >>14155767

>>14152640
why does this look so awesome?

SUBS WHEN?

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 02:18:11 No.14155767 Report

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>>14155614
Pic related first.

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