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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:04:12 No.14167448 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14167955

Well, that was bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:06:32 No.14167471 Report

Quoted By: >>14167499

It's shonen, OP

In order to watch/read shonen, you have accept things like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:10:51 No.14167499 Report

Quoted By: >>14167558 >>14167687 >>14167707 >>14169651 >>14172362

>>14167471
I'd had accepted it if he had used, dunno, an Hyper Beam or something, not fucking Fire Blast. You're not killing any water pokemon with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:16:26 No.14167558 Report

Quoted By: >>14170166

>>14167499
It would have been a lot more believable if it was Blast Burn.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:17:53 No.14167574 Report

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>blastoise was taking damage from fire spin
>got burned by fire blast
>fire blast was a crit

Blame the rng

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:29:11 No.14167687 Report

Quoted By: >>14167712

>>14167499
It's not that bad. If both had perfect stats then I think Fire Blast with a crit would take 1/3 of Blastoise's HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:29:59 No.14167691 Report

Quoted By: >>14167792

Yeah, why didn't he lose like Ash always does!

Fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:31:16 No.14167707 Report

Quoted By: >>14167792

>>14167499
I don't know. I took out my friend's Blastoise with my Charizard using only fire attacks. But that was when I was a kid. They were both on level 100, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:31:27 No.14167712 Report

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>>14167687
Sure thing. The problem is that it took more than fucking 2/3rds of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:32:53 No.14167730 Report

Quoted By: >>14167769 >>14167771 >>14167805 >>14167949 >>14168265

My only qualm is how cutesy and shit they made Red, also he wasn't nearly as serious and quiet as the games made him to be.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:35:57 No.14167769 Report

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>>14167730
Because he's not supposed to be serious and quiet.

Also he looked just like Ash used to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:36:08 No.14167771 Report

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>>14167730
THAT WAS THE END OF G/S/C! NO!
Stop! Stop now! Stop now you simpleton!
If you look at his sprite in R/B/G you'd see he looks like an energetic little kid! Same goes with Fire Red and Leaf Green. It's only at the end of Gold and Silver that you get to fight him on that mountain and he's all "silent and baddass". That and fucking fannart. DON'T MIX YOUR FAN ART WITH CANON.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:38:09 No.14167792 Report

Quoted By: >>14167829

>>14167691
Are you fucking retarded or what? That's not the fucking issue here.

>>14167707
What was he doing, using fucking Tail whip every turn or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:39:12 No.14167805 Report

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>>14167730
>serious and quiet
You know, fans made that image of him.
He said "..." in G/S because he's the old protag, and hence, silent.
But the whole fanbase turned him into a silent badass, a monster of a trainer.
Just because the image of him that fans constructed for him wasn't true doesn't make it bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:41:16 No.14167829 Report

Quoted By: >>14168076

>>14167792
He was headstrong, heroic, competent, a child, and not silent. He was a baddass but only in the same way that we all were when we were kids and we beat the league and got Mewtwo. That didn't make us the serious and silent type though. It was marvelous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:51:54 No.14167949 Report

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>>14167730
Yet again, Redfags prove how worthless they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:52:21 No.14167955 Report

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>>14167448
>critical hit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 09:59:46 No.14168057 Report

Quoted By: >>14168143

>The only time Charizard's battling prowess was ever portrayed remotely accurately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:01:22 No.14168076 Report

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>>14167829
*tips fedora*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:03:42 No.14168102 Report

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Why does Blastoise lose EVERY single time to a fucking Charizard?

This is some blatant fanboyism if I ever seen it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:06:52 No.14168143 Report

Quoted By: >>14168193

>>14168057
D-did they actually do this?

That's on the same tier as "FINISH HIM OFF WITH FALSE SWIPE!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:10:08 No.14168193 Report

Quoted By: >>14168220 >>14170987

>>14168143
Surely you know of Origins Giovanni's Rhyhorn oneshotting Red's Jolteon with a Thunderbolt?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:12:13 No.14168220 Report

Quoted By: >>14168287 >>14168291 >>14168298 >>14170987

>>14168193
I'm watching Origin right n

Wait.
>Rhyhorn
>Thunderbolt

Holy shit, do the animators even know what the games are?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:16:02 No.14168265 Report

Quoted By: >>14168381

>>14167730
Reminder that Ash is a better trainer, if this is to be considered canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:17:27 No.14168281 Report

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Naruto's voice actor voices Red.

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:18:02 No.14168287 Report

Quoted By: >>14168330

>>14168220
Rhyorn can learn thunderbolt what are you talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:18:18 No.14168291 Report

Quoted By: >>14168341

>>14168220

>Rhyhorn/Rhydon and a Thunderbolt, coupled with bullshit

Where have I heard this before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:18:55 No.14168298 Report

Quoted By: >>14168307 >>14168330

>>14168220
You're aware that Rhyhorn can learn Thunderbolt, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:19:20 No.14168307 Report

Quoted By: >>14168316 >>14170987

>>14168298
Why the fuck would he, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:19:55 No.14168316 Report

Quoted By: >>14168333

>>14168307
To cover his weakness to water?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:20:37 No.14168330 Report

Quoted By: >>14168368 >>14170987

>>14168287
>>14168298

No, not that.

Rhyhorn has less than half the base Sp. Atk than Atk

Even for a misc move, this is pitiful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:20:43 No.14168333 Report

Quoted By: >>14168382 >>14168412

>>14168316
Thunder Fang would be the superior option, was my point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:21:25 No.14168341 Report

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>>14168291
The thunderbolt came from its horn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:23:07 No.14168368 Report

Quoted By: >>14168452 >>14170443 >>14170987

>>14168330
Also Jolteon has 95 base SpD opposing Rhyhorn's 30 base SpA.
And is an Electric type, which resists the unboosted Thunderbolt.
And its default ability is Volt Absorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:24:00 No.14168381 Report

Quoted By: >>14168406

>>14168265
Bullshit. Red fills his Pokedex, and beat the league. Has Ash ever even made finals? Wait, didn't Ash's Pikachu lose to a level five snivy? Yeah. Shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:24:09 No.14168382 Report

Quoted By: >>14168402 >>14168406

>>14168333
I figured it's because Thunder Fang wasn't around in Gen 1, which is sort of what they're going with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:24:19 No.14168386 Report

Quoted By: >>14168549

Some script writer is just laughing at all the kiddies upset that the anime supposedly based on the games is using logic that wouldn't work in the games. Like, he's laughing his ass off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:25:26 No.14168402 Report

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>>14168382
Mega Evos are present, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:25:33 No.14168406 Report

Quoted By: >>14168445

>>14168381
I'm sorry, I forgot Red regularly beats EV trained legendaries with base form monsters.

>>14168382
Neither was Charizard X, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:25:45 No.14168412 Report

Quoted By: >>14168428 >>14168447 >>14168478 >>14168536

>>14168333
Thunder Fang wasn't a thing you could get in Gen 1 though. It wasn't even a thing in Gen 1. In fact, come to think of it... What electric move was physical in Gen 1? I can't even think of one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:26:44 No.14168428 Report

Quoted By: >>14168562

>>14168412
None.
They hadn't done the split yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:27:52 No.14168445 Report

Quoted By: >>14168514

>>14168406
That was purely a move to boost sales of X.
Also what makes you think there were ANY EV trained legendaries here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:27:53 No.14168447 Report

Quoted By: >>14168502

>>14168412
Didn't stop Mewtwo from Shadow Balling Articuno.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:28:05 No.14168452 Report

Quoted By: >>14171584

>>14168368
Even if it was a Quick Feet Jolteon, jesus fucking christ. What have they done?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:29:36 No.14168478 Report

Quoted By: >>14168502

>>14168412
This was FR/LG more than RBG. Just look at Red's clothes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:30:27 No.14168496 Report

Quoted By: >>14168514 >>14168517

I'll download it when it gets translated, but how far does the special go? This sounds like he gets all the way to the 8th gym, are all fights shown?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:31:00 No.14168502 Report

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>>14168447
Didn't Mewtwo have a move like that in Pokemon the first Movie before Shadow Ball was a move in the games? For all we know that might not have been Shadow Ball, and we're all just being stupid.
>>14168478
The clothes got revamped because they're stupid in RBG to thesedays. Especially with those clothes looking too much like Ash and Gary, and them needing to make a seperation.
But all the rules seem to apply as if it's RBG not FR/LG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:31:52 No.14168514 Report

Quoted By: >>14168538

>>14168445
Tobias said himself he only had to use Darkrai through all of Sinnoh excluding Ash, but including gym leaders and the other trainers Tobias fought in the league.

He said Ash was the best trainer in the region, basically.

>>14168496
He fights Mewtwo. A lot of the gym battles aren't shown. I thought they'd showcase Misty or Surge for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:32:10 No.14168517 Report

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>>14168496
He goes all the way to the endgame to Mewtwo. Not all the battles are shown though. A lot of it is skimmed. It's mostly a long-ass movie with a cool story more than it is just battle porn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:33:02 No.14168536 Report

Quoted By: >>14168562

>>14168412
The move split happened in gen 4 man, everything before was split between types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:33:13 No.14168538 Report

Quoted By: >>14168543 >>14168551

>>14168514

Is there Sabrina? I was looking forward to seeing her, hopefully as her traditional design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:33:42 No.14168543 Report

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>>14168538
Gyms 2-7 are only montages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:34:06 No.14168549 Report

Quoted By: >>14168727

>>14168386
I'm more pissed off at them shoehorning a X/Y commercial at the end than how the moves worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:34:08 No.14168551 Report

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>>14168538
Skimmed over. But they do show her for a few seconds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:34:40 No.14168562 Report

Quoted By: >>14168620

>>14168536
>>14168428
Thanks guys. I forgot about this!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:38:10 No.14168620 Report

Quoted By: >>14168764

>>14168562
I keep forgetting that there was a time when they weren't split.
The concept seems so strange now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:45:26 No.14168727 Report

Quoted By: >>14168764

>>14168549
Is it bad that I didn't mind it?
I really liked the final fight, and I'm glad they went to the effort of forging a connection between Mewtwo, Mr. Fuji's research, Mega Evolution and the Kalos Region.
Since there's an understandable connection there, I don't really mind so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 10:48:26 No.14168764 Report

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>>14168620
It really is. It's baffling to think how it ever worked before! So simplistic!
>>14168727
Yeah come to think about it, there is a strong tie there. I'm a little upset that they involved something that wasn't in the original, but it makes sense for us to tie these things together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 11:46:24 No.14169651 Report

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>>14167499
Jolteon got wrecked by one attack, and it was electric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:12:03 No.14170093 Report

Quoted By: >>14170121

Well let's calc that up.

Fire blast got a power of 120
Charizard has blaze
and it was a crit
and same type makes it 1,5 times stronger too so it has a power off

120*2*1,5*1,5/2 = 270

That's a pretty powerful attack. A crit Hyper Beam would've had a power o 300 though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:13:52 No.14170121 Report

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>>14170093

Maybe Charizard is holding an item that increases his fire attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:16:42 No.14170166 Report

Quoted By: >>14170198 >>14170330 >>14172147

>>14167558
>blast burn
>gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:17:43 No.14170198 Report

Quoted By:

>>14170166
>mega evolution
>gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:24:30 No.14170330 Report

Quoted By: >>14170518

>>14170166
...and?

We're aware that Blast Burn exists now in-universe. No point in hiding it just because we weren't aware of it before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:30:21 No.14170443 Report

Quoted By: >>14170550 >>14170614

>>14168368
>ability

Gen 1, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:34:21 No.14170518 Report

Quoted By: >>14170978 >>14171156

>>14170330
The only thing not from Gen 1 is Mega Evolution. They even think there's only 149 Pokémon before Mewtwo kicks Green's ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:36:06 No.14170550 Report

Quoted By:

>>14170443
Mega Evolution, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:39:13 No.14170614 Report

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>>14170443
So what? We now know that abilities exist in that universe. "Gen 1" only means something to us, not the characters or physics within the fiction.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:48:12 No.14170787 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:54:34 No.14170903 Report

Quoted By: >>14171198

Red was as bad as Ash. Red never won because he was a good trainer and made all the same mistakes. The writers just happened to let him win anyway through crits and bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:58:03 No.14170978 Report

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>>14170518
And that '149' isn't from Gen1. The numbers 150 or 151 are.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 12:58:33 No.14170987 Report

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>>14168193
>>14168220
>>14168307
>>14168330
>>14168368

>mfw /vp/ is actually so autistic they don't even get the joke.

Jesus christ, faggots. Take your pills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 13:06:49 No.14171156 Report

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>>14170518
>They even think there's only 149 Pokémon before Mewtwo kicks Green's ass.
It has been firmly established that, for one reason or another, the people of Kanto had no knowledge of Pokemon outside their region during the time when Red/Green/Blue took place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 13:09:40 No.14171198 Report

Quoted By:

>>14170903
Stay mad, Green.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 13:29:07 No.14171584 Report

Quoted By: >>14172600

>>14168452
There were no abilities in R/B/G.
Instead, there was an immensely flawed combat system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 13:33:45 No.14171676 Report

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That rushing move Rhyhorn was using, was that supposed to be Horn Drill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 14:02:20 No.14172147 Report

Quoted By:

>>14170166

>Mega evolution
>Gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 14:13:59 No.14172362 Report

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>>14167499
>You're not killing any water pokemon with that.
I always make a point to fight my rivals starter with my starter and to finish it off with one of my stab attacks it resists just to add insult

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 14:15:34 No.14172397 Report

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Are Blastoise and Charizard rivals because of what happened when they were first stage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2013 14:26:42 No.14172600 Report

Quoted By:

>>14171584
>R/B/G
See >>14170782.

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