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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:54:38 No.14216155 View View Reply Original Report

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Charizard and Mega Charizard X stat comparison

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:56:21 No.14216204 Report

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>defense boost

why.jpg

But DAT ATTACK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:56:23 No.14216207 Report

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>no speed
King of NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:56:27 No.14216209 Report

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Do we have Charizard Y's stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:56:56 No.14216221 Report

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Those boosts are huge.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:57:27 No.14216234 Report

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>>14216155
>Stealth rocks face when those stat ups

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:57:43 No.14216242 Report

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>>14216207

>The exact same speed stat as normal Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:58:03 No.14216247 Report

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>>14216155
anyone who can calculate stats in the house?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:58:05 No.14216248 Report

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>>14216207
Base 100 speed is useable by many Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:58:11 No.14216254 Report

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>No Speed

IS OGRE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:58:12 No.14216255 Report

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>>14216155
With stat boosts like that I'm really looking forward to what Megasaurs defenses are going to look like.

Strangestuff738902

Strangestuff738902 Fri 04 Oct 2013 15:59:43 No.14216298 Report

Quoted By: >>14216369 >>14216462 >>14218108

Guess that my picture already got here. :> i made that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:02:20 No.14216369 Report

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>>14216298
So why the IGN logo? Faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:02:29 No.14216372 Report

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Jesus Christ its going to be bulky too, thats like what, base 115 Defense? This nigga is going to crush souls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:02:36 No.14216376 Report

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dragon dance that ho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:03:10 No.14216389 Report

Quoted By: >>14218179

Holy shit.

Overpowered much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:03:17 No.14216393 Report

Quoted By: >>14216443 >>14216539

>Defense
>Sp. Attack

Qué?

Strangestuff738902

Strangestuff738902 Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:04:40 No.14216432 Report

Quoted By: >>14217198

You faggot i said i made the picture, not took a picture from my game. Faggot. Just took some screenshots and put it together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:04:46 No.14216434 Report

Quoted By: >>14216495

Calling it: All mega forms will be banned from the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:05:13 No.14216443 Report

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>>14216393
Gives the option to run a mixzard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:05:15 No.14216445 Report

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>>14216155
With 167 ATK at level 53, his Mega's base attack will be 130

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:05:27 No.14216453 Report

Quoted By: >>14216492 >>14216497 >>14216501 >>14216511 >>14216532

>No speed boost
Also, is it confirmed on whether or not the mega transformation takes a turn or not? This could make or break it.

Strangestuff738902

Strangestuff738902 Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:05:41 No.14216459 Report

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>>14216369
You faggot i said i made the picture, not took a picture from my game. Faggot. Just took some screenshots and put it together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:05:44 No.14216461 Report

Quoted By: >>14217351

Thats what, 50% extra attack?

Which would mean he's on 120 base attack now

Shame he had to be dragon type in the generation where it got nerfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:05:50 No.14216462 Report

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>>14216298
>calling ownership of something on anonymous imageboard
Cool, now I know who I hate ;>

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:06:41 No.14216484 Report

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>>14216155
So in other words not enough of a jump to warrent holding the stone over a life orb.

mega evs are useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:00 No.14216492 Report

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>>14216453
it doesnt take a turn. He has access to dragon dance too so that helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:14 No.14216495 Report

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>>14216434

Nah. I thought so at first but then I realised that if you want your pokemon to digivolve then it can't be holding things like Life Orb or Choice Scarf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:20 No.14216497 Report

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>>14216453

It doesn't take a turn. You can select a move alongside mega evolving.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:20 No.14216498 Report

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:26 No.14216501 Report

Quoted By: >>14216564 >>14216644 >>14216880

>>14216453
mega evolving has maximum priority and gives priority to your attack
so lets say you send out charizard, the enemy has a dragonite with extremespeed
you mega evolve and hit outrage while dragonite uses extremespeed
you evolve and then use outrage before he uses extremespeed

if anything, mega evolutions can be used for a quick priority attack like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:44 No.14216508 Report

Quoted By: >>14216564

>>14216484
>Tough Claws
>Increased defensive stats
yeah, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:07:52 No.14216511 Report

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>>14216453
We've known for months that Mega Evolution doesn't take up its own turn.

Strangestuff738902

Strangestuff738902 Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:08:23 No.14216520 Report

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>>14216462
Okay ;> <3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:08:48 No.14216532 Report

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>>14216453
It's confirmed since the first demo with the mega-evolution, how can you be that slow?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:09:01 No.14216534 Report

Quoted By: >>14216649 >>14216674 >>14217766

>>14216484
I don't understand why the bump is so small for Mega Charizard X when Mega Lucario's base stats are fucking 70/145/70/140/70/115.

I thought Charizard X was supposed to be the end-all, be-all of megas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:09:06 No.14216539 Report

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>>14216393
Are you restarted? That SPA is great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:09:14 No.14216542 Report

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>>14216207

>Jolly Charizard everywhere

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:09:29 No.14216548 Report

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>>14216520

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:09:30 No.14216551 Report

Quoted By: >>14216605 >>14216662

This is what a current gen physical charizard is meant to look like according to smogon anyway

Just replace Acrobatics with another STAB move and everything dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:10:15 No.14216564 Report

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>>14216484

>>14216501
>>14216508
this, and new typings, abilities and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:10:56 No.14216580 Report

Quoted By: >>14216694 >>14216789

Just calc'd it, the spread is roughly

78/131/114/130/85/100

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:11:34 No.14216605 Report

Quoted By: >>14216632

>>14216551
Flare Blitz of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:12:34 No.14216632 Report

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>>14216605
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:13:06 No.14216644 Report

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>>14216501
>you evolve and then use outrage before he uses extremespeed
>before
What the actual fuck.

Why would they ever do something that retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:13:13 No.14216649 Report

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>>14216534
>I don't understand why the bump is so small for Mega Charizard X when Mega Lucario's base stats are fucking 70/145/70/140/70/115
>70/145/70/140/70/115

And you're telling me this shit has Adaptability on top of that? Really GF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:13:12 No.14216650 Report

Quoted By: >>14216682 >>14216706 >>14216732 >>14216776

So I calced the base stats:
130 b. Attack
114 b. Defense
130 b. Special Attack
85 b. Special Defense
100 b. Speed

opinions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:13:33 No.14216662 Report

Quoted By: >>14216902

>>14216551
Funny how Charizard and Acrobatics are not compatible on my black 2 game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:13:53 No.14216674 Report

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>>14216534

Where the fuck are you getting those stats?

>>14216484
>having your life drained is comparable to not having it drained

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:14:21 No.14216682 Report

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>>14216650
Salamence Lite or Reshiram 0.5

Oh well, at least he has a better typing than Mence and neutral to THE FAIRY MENACE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:14:42 No.14216692 Report

Quoted By: >>14216752 >>14216760

>no speed increase
>revenge killed by terrakion and every scarfed dragon
>dugtrio bait
>people actually thinking this thing will be OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:14:45 No.14216694 Report

Quoted By: >>14217867

>>14216580
Holy shit.

131 ontop of tough claws, dragon dance, claw/outrage, flare blitz/fire punch

And megas stay evolved when switched out.

Fire/dragon most offensive typing in the game.

This thing could EASILY have a team built around it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:15:06 No.14216706 Report

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>>14216650

Usable Kyurem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:16:01 No.14216732 Report

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>>14216650
It'll get rekt by normal Garchomps and other dragon killers since it didn't get any speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:16:14 No.14216738 Report

Quoted By: >>14216848

>>14216674
Smogon calculated those base stats yesterday after Kanpachi on SomethingAwful showed us Mega Lucario's stats.

Their conclusion: Mega Luke is an ultrafast Conkeldurr with better typing and moves.

In this case, we have one mega evo that's better than their LO variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:16:37 No.14216752 Report

Quoted By: >>14216883

>>14216692
Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:17:03 No.14216760 Report

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>>14216692

100 speed is better than most dragons. Like 99% of them.

Terrakion revenges nearly the entire meta.

Dugtrio? Fucking really? I guess Heatran, Terrakion, Tyranitar haev no business in OU.

Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:17:45 No.14216776 Report

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>>14216650
Keep it away from Garchomp and other dragon killers and it'll be fine.

That said, Charizard was bumped up to 130 base attack and special attack from ~100 before.

It makes me wonder what Mega Garchomp is like, and how much that speed drop is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:18:07 No.14216789 Report

Quoted By: >>14216928

>>14216580
Mixed stats w/ +physical ability. Sounds like Salamence without Intimidate and has fire stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:18:30 No.14216799 Report

Quoted By: >>14216828

CHARIZARD X IS LITERALLY UNSTOPPABLE

DESPAIR SMOGON, FOR HE IS GOING TO RAPE ALL OF YOUR TEAMS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:19:24 No.14216828 Report

Quoted By: >>14216861 >>14216929

>>14216799
Water/Fairy and Fairy/Rock wall him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:20:03 No.14216848 Report

Quoted By: >>14216882

>>14216738

So, uber?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:20:21 No.14216856 Report

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charizard y will still be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:20:33 No.14216861 Report

Quoted By: >>14216888 >>14216892 >>14216894 >>14216916 >>14216955 >>14217166

>>14216828
He's going to rip them apart anyway.

Charizard X has no counters whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:09 No.14216874 Report

Quoted By: >>14216922 >>14216923

>people still underestimating the power of choice scarf
>people not realizing that as soon as team preview shows the opponent has a charizard anyone with half a brain will keep their scarfer ready to revenge kill it dead
charizard x will net you a kill per match (at best) and no more. i'd rather use more consistent dragon-type sweepers such as garchomp or dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:23 No.14216880 Report

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>>14216501
Um, no.

You're probably right about Mega Evolution having priority, but the moves it uses after don't get affected by that priority.

Charizard Mega Evolves into Mega Charizard X
Lucario uses Extremespeed
Charizard uses Flare Blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:26 No.14216882 Report

Quoted By: >>14216953

>>14216848
No, because Garchomp OHKOs this shit with either STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:28 No.14216883 Report

Quoted By: >>14216990 >>14217060

>>14216752
Scarftrio and pretty much every other common scarfer will outspeed 1 DD. I mean if you let a pokemon setup 2 you're fucked anyway. I don't know if the extra def can let it survive an EQ after 25% rawks damage though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:40 No.14216888 Report

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>>14216861
Starmie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:50 No.14216892 Report

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>>14216861

Shame you have to get regular charizard into play first

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:21:55 No.14216894 Report

Quoted By: >>14216926 >>14216945

>>14216861
>Carbink defensive as all hell
>Perfect typing to resist Charizard X

Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:22:08 No.14216902 Report

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>>14216662

It's an event move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:22:23 No.14216916 Report

Quoted By: >>14216942

>>14216861
>Heatran says hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:22:32 No.14216922 Report

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>>14216874
This. Fire/Dragon is a nice combo but Dragon/Ground is obscene and Multi-scale will make Dragonite laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:22:33 No.14216923 Report

Quoted By: >>14216968

>>14216874
>people not realizing that team preview doesn't fucking exist anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:22:46 No.14216926 Report

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>>14216894
Carbink is useless and would be nothing but a waste of a team slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:22:53 No.14216928 Report

Quoted By: >>14217443

>>14216789

It's a better Salamence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:23:02 No.14216929 Report

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>>14216828
dont forget ground u faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:23:30 No.14216936 Report

Quoted By: >>14217051

>>14216234
>Still hit by dem cocks when it switches in
>Still takes 50% damage
>Stats don't effect SR damage anyway, just type
Pls be trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:23:37 No.14216942 Report

Quoted By: >>14216969 >>14216991 >>14217025 >>14217143

>>14216916
Earthquake says hello.

Heatran will be NU this gen anyway. Ugly shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:23:38 No.14216945 Report

Quoted By: >>14216966

>>14216894
>Carbink
What is EQ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:23:57 No.14216953 Report

Quoted By: >>14216972

>>14216882
News flash cunt chomps outrage doesn't 1 shot zardX but guess what? ZardX 1 shots chomp u mad nerd?

Also lol at people saying zard x won't bet any kills at best loooooool WTF? People hate charizard that much. I remember when people were saying this about terrakion and genesect LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:24:11 No.14216955 Report

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>>14216861
Say hello to Nidoking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:24:31 No.14216966 Report

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>>14216945
a move unlikely to kill it because it's not *4 damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:24:36 No.14216968 Report

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>>14216923

You're lying. Zoroark is usable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:24:37 No.14216969 Report

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>>14216942

>Air Balloon
>No Turboblaze
>trying to be Rerishram when you don't have his ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:24:44 No.14216972 Report

Quoted By: >>14217068

>>14216953
i see leddit has arrived

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:25:21 No.14216990 Report

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>>14216883
>Scarftrio

Nigga. You fucking high as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:25:19 No.14216991 Report

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>>14216942
>air baloon
get rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:25:32 No.14216997 Report

Quoted By: >>14217044 >>14217076 >>14217088

Suddenly, Garchomp and Excadrill have all become irrelevant because of these skyhigh stats.

OU, say hello to the new king. Charizard X!

Garchomp, go down to NU and stay there, for you're trash now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:26:59 No.14217025 Report

Quoted By: >>14217077

>>14216942

Heatran got buffed, retard. Its fire/steel typing is better than ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:27:41 No.14217044 Report

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>>14216997
That would make Garchomp the only fully evolves dragon in NU besides Altaria.
>UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:27:52 No.14217051 Report

Quoted By: >>14217160

>>14216936
You can either open with Charizard or switch out to Charizard if you opponent opens with a sneaky pebbles user. If you open with Charizard and the opponent has a non water, rock, or electric user, mega evolve then switch the next turn. No more worrying about Sneaky Pebbles for him!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:28:07 No.14217060 Report

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>>14216883
50% damage from sneaky pebbles.You send the Pokemon out then you mega-evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:28:18 No.14217068 Report

Quoted By: >>14217141 >>14217164 >>14217282

>>14216972
He's not wrong I just calc'd and no dragon in the current meta bar black kyruem doesn't 1 shot. But charizard can in turn OHKO them.

People have a bad mentality of charizard on this board not to mention the fact that most people here are terrible at competitive let alone predicting how the next meta will shape.

Even in the current meta this thing would be top tiers and that's not even counting sun teams.

People need to understand that this thing is legit good.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:28:36 No.14217076 Report

Quoted By: >>14217179

>>14216997

Go home, the real dragons are playing here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:28:36 No.14217077 Report

Quoted By: >>14217225

>>14217025
And Charizard X...

>has Earthquake
>is Fire/Dragon
>has superior stats
>won't die like a bitch unlike Heatran

Heatran is doomed to be NU thanks to Charizard X's existance.

Based Charizard wins this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:28:49 No.14217088 Report

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>>14216997
Garchomp will go down to NU when Blaziken goes to OU

If Charizard X has these stats, Mega Blaziken is gonna drop kick the shit out of it with its own high attack stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:30:12 No.14217125 Report

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>Mega stones are tradable
good, good. Now as long as there is more than one per game everything will be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:30:39 No.14217135 Report

Quoted By: >>14217219

Can you see it, /vp/? It's the golden age of Charizard.

He's going to dominate the shit out of the metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:30:59 No.14217141 Report

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>>14217068
Adding to this so you pretender smogonfags act like you know what you're talking about.

Teams can be built aroids this EASILY with a typing like fire/dragon and only a 25% weakness to rocks.

He stays mega ALL battle even if you switch. If you can't spin support in 2013 URE fucking badkid.

VP kids stay wifi pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:30:58 No.14217143 Report

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>>14216942
Fire/Steel means he's going to be dragons' best friend. He utterly walls fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:31:09 No.14217145 Report

Quoted By: >>14217175

Uh.. pretty sure I read somewhere that Pokemon fully heal when using the Mega stone in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:31:35 No.14217160 Report

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>>14217051

What if the opponent leads with Swampert, Aerodactyl or anything that can either set up stones or kill Charizard? What if Explosion gets unnerfed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:31:41 No.14217164 Report

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>>14217068
>muh covert crags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:31:43 No.14217166 Report

Quoted By: >>14217196

>>14216861
Scarfed "Anything" would wreck it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:31:59 No.14217175 Report

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>>14217145

You heard wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:32:02 No.14217179 Report

Quoted By: >>14217234

>>14217076
Mega Garchomp is slow. Fuck off to UU at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:32:38 No.14217196 Report

Quoted By: >>14217296 >>14217349

>>14217166
>wasting a pokemon's item slot on an useless item like scarf

And besides, Charizard X will tank everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:32:40 No.14217198 Report

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>>14216432
>>14216459

lol what a dumb nigga

cant even quote properly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:33:19 No.14217219 Report

Quoted By: >>14217270

>>14217135
>He's going to dominate the shit out of the metagame.

Ok I'm out of here, this place is filled with 12yrolds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:33:29 No.14217225 Report

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>>14217077
>People like this new form of an old favorite that might make it viable!? Clearly they are faggots and I should mock them by being an even bigger faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:33:39 No.14217234 Report

Quoted By: >>14217334 >>14217388

>>14217179
If zardX was uu now he would be banned instantly. You vp kids are terrible holy shit.

So much unjustified hate. Try using your undeveloped brains and look at him objectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:34:10 No.14217253 Report

Quoted By: >>14217304

>there's people who don't think Mega Charizard X is going to rape OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:34:45 No.14217270 Report

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>>14217219
It's just the one.

The rest of us who aren't automatically hating on it are being reasonable.

He'll see way more usage, but he's not gonna be king of OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:35:07 No.14217282 Report

Quoted By: >>14217401

>>14217068
We still haven't seen any of the other Dragons megas yet. And If it is as good as you make it sound it will be relegated to ubers anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:35:19 No.14217296 Report

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>>14217196
>useless item like scarf

/vp/ ladies and gentlemen, it's runned by redditers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:35:26 No.14217304 Report

Quoted By: >>14221762

>>14217253
>Implying that some of OU's best aren't getting buffed in this gen as well

>Implying that Zard X isn't coming in with 50% of its HP left because they confirmed that Mega doesn't restore HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:35:50 No.14217315 Report

Quoted By: >>14217359

so uh, will you be able to get charmander in x and y or do you have to trade it up?

>have not played since gen one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:35:57 No.14217319 Report

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Fuck this thread is getting shitted up by underageb&, im out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:36:04 No.14217321 Report

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>130 attack
>100 speed
>no item
>game breaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:36:31 No.14217334 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217234
Uh, I was talking about Mega Chomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:37:06 No.14217349 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217196

>Choice Scarf
>useless

reddit/tumblr plz go

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:37:08 No.14217351 Report

Quoted By: >>14217441

>>14216461
>the one dragon who resists fairy
>nerfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:37:23 No.14217359 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217315
You can choose one of the Kanto starters very early in the game anon

Welcome back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:38:49 No.14217388 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217234

hahahha

This retard can't even follow a simple comment.

It's a school day, little boy. Make sure you don't miss your special needs bus!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:39:17 No.14217399 Report

Quoted By:

I have a question about megas.
Once a pokémon has mega evolved before, can it learn different moves? I think I heard something about Mega Ampharos learning a Dragon move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:39:21 No.14217401 Report

Quoted By: >>14221966

>>14217282
True. But chomps speed drops making it slower than ZardX. Watch people not bandwagon hate then.

>BUT MUH CHOMP U CAN STILL BE ROCK SETTER N WALL...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:40:18 No.14217441 Report

Quoted By: >>14217484 >>14217503 >>14217521 >>14217525

>>14217351
fire/dragon doesn't resist fairy
it's also the only dragon 4x weak to SR and that can't hold a choice scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:40:21 No.14217443 Report

Quoted By:

>>14216928
I think the earthquake weakness will keep it from reaching Salamance levels, but that should help it from getting sent to ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:41:09 No.14217463 Report

Quoted By:

With this upgrade, it's going to be impossible for Charizard to not be OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:41:40 No.14217484 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217441
What the fuck am I reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:42:17 No.14217503 Report

Quoted By: >>14217517 >>14217543

>>14217441
Dragon is not weak to Rock...

skillface !NIGGER4AwE

skillface !NIGGER4AwE Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:42:46 No.14217517 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217503
I think he was talking about how when it switches in it's still Fire/Flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:42:50 No.14217521 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217441
........? It takes neutral damage from fairy and does not have a 4x weakness to SR, wtf are you smoking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:42:58 No.14217525 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217441
Charizard X is neutral to fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:43:33 No.14217543 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217503
Unless you lead with Charizard then it get sent out when it still has it's pebbles weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:44:30 No.14217575 Report

Quoted By: >>14217969

>>14216207

>100 base speed is bad

whattafuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:46:12 No.14217619 Report

Quoted By:

He specifically mentioned Dragon. And why wouldn't you lead with Char if you plan on using his Mega?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:50:51 No.14217766 Report

Quoted By: >>14218007

>>14216534
Given that these stats are accurate on both counts, Lucario goes from 525 to 610- a net gain of 85 while Charizard goes from 534 to 638, a net gain of 104.

The difference are that Lucario only got buffs to things that it did (or at least was trying to do) well to begin with. Charizard X on the other hand is trying to be things that Charizard isn't- a Physical Sweeper. (Base Atk. 84, base def. 78) As such they cranked up mediocre stats to competitive levels rather that raising already viable ones to god-tier. As such its much more rounded, but ultimately less threatening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:55:10 No.14217867 Report

Quoted By:

>>14216694
>fire/dragon most offensive typing
>Not dragon/fighting
lolno

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:56:59 No.14217917 Report

Quoted By:

ground/ice
ice/fighting

are the most offensive types, stastically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 16:59:32 No.14217969 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217575
100 is a speed tie with a LOT of pokemon.

Garchomp is powerful because he's ever so slightly faster. Speed is the most important stat in pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:00:51 No.14218007 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217766
Nailed it.

Golduck is well rounded, but you don't see his ass dominating the competitive scene. Pokemon need to pick a specialty and excel at it.

It's no different than making a character build in an RPG. It's better to invest in important stats than spread them equally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:01:31 No.14218030 Report

Quoted By:

100 base speed means he will be useless in even UU since he cant hold an actual item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:04:50 No.14218108 Report

Quoted By:

>>14216298
go back to reddit, pleb :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:06:09 No.14218147 Report

Quoted By:

>>14216155
Already discussing it >>14212035

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:07:29 No.14218179 Report

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>>14216389
Nope. Considering that the lack of Life Orb is balanced by the trait I'd say it's a little bit better then Salamence.

HP: 78
Attack: Around 130
Defense: Around 115
Special Attack: Around 130
Special Defense: 85
Speed: 100

No Life Orb, but Tough Claws.

Still have to see the % increase of Tough Claws however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:17:45 No.14218493 Report

Quoted By: >>14218512 >>14218544

I hope moves like Knock Off and Trick revert Mega pokemon back to their original forms just so you faggots stop hailing Charizard as Ubers material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:18:19 No.14218512 Report

Quoted By:

>>14218493
Nope. It works like Griseus Orb and Arceus' Plates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:19:35 No.14218544 Report

Quoted By:

>>14218493
Doesn't work and Charizard is strong but far from being uber.
It's a Salamence with better type and moves. A little bit.

Normal Blaziken still the stronger starter. Not Mega Blaziken.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:29:00 No.14218812 Report

Quoted By: >>14218881 >>14219049 >>14219117 >>14220275

Everyone go home you're all drunk.This jolly Fairy is going to wreck OU upside down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:31:16 No.14218881 Report

Quoted By: >>14219248

>>14218812
1HKO from Thunderpunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:37:53 No.14219049 Report

Quoted By: >>14219235

>>14218812
It does not have enough stats to go toe-to-toe with the big hitters. Even with its new shiny type, Terrakion can still tear it to shreds with Stone Edge, Clorophyll Venusaur can tank its shit and trample over it and Moxiemence still destroys it with a boosted EQ.

Fairy does not ruin Dragon, it only makes them play smarter. Which is, by the way, a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:40:14 No.14219117 Report

Quoted By:

>>14218812
This thing can only go offensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:44:27 No.14219235 Report

Quoted By:

>>14219049
>Terrakion
Can eat an Aqua Jet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:44:56 No.14219248 Report

Quoted By: >>14219271

>>14218881
Nice STAB m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:45:55 No.14219271 Report

Quoted By: >>14219378

>>14219248
Doesn't need STAB. It has 130 base attack, which is boosted by it's ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:49:20 No.14219378 Report

Quoted By: >>14219454 >>14221610

>>14219271
Good point. Can you confirm the boost Tough Claws gives is relevant enough to get the kill?

Don't think this or the Mega Launcher thing got actual numbers yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 17:51:44 No.14219454 Report

Quoted By: >>14219714

>>14219378
Are we talking about max def Azumarill?
I don't think so.

However it only needs about 10% to get the kill, and I'm pretty sure the trait will give more then 20%.

Other mega got traits like Adaptability and Huge Power. It could even be a +50% boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 18:01:18 No.14219714 Report

Quoted By: >>14220275

>>14219454
Calculated it this way. Regular OU Azumarill, which is investment on HP.

252 Atk Choice Band Charizard ThunderPunch vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 294-348 (74.61 - 88.32%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Assumed Jolly since this thing will need all the speed it can get, and Choice Band for max damage, although it won't necessarily be its best set.

130 base attack, obviously.

Fighting back, Azumarill's Waterfall does around 80% against 110 defense Charizard Fire/Dragon. Which then could die to Aqua Jet, I guess.

Either way, these two can go pretty even against each other, counting hazards and stuff, unless Tough Claws ensures it dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 18:20:51 No.14220275 Report

Quoted By: >>14220785

>>14219714
>>14218812
Iron Tail Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 18:35:15 No.14220785 Report

Quoted By: >>14221977

>>14220275
you do realize water resists steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 18:59:50 No.14221610 Report

Quoted By:

>>14219378
History has shown it will likely be 20%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:04:09 No.14221762 Report

Quoted By: >>14221992

>>14217304
>50%
>2x weakness

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:09:36 No.14221942 Report

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>send the pokemon out to battle
>loses half its health immediately
>b-but its attack i-is a little better now

Oops back to NU it goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:10:25 No.14221966 Report

Quoted By:

>>14217401
chomp doesn't have to go mega you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:10:41 No.14221977 Report

Quoted By:

>>14220785

Isn't Azumarill gaining the fairy type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:11:01 No.14221992 Report

Quoted By:

>>14221762
>gets sent out
>takes 50% because fire/flying
>does epic super awesome evolve into mega Charizard X
>its completely crippled already

Epic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:11:29 No.14222008 Report

Quoted By: >>14222073

How would you react if Stealth Rock received a nerf this generation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:13:01 No.14222073 Report

Quoted By: >>14222711

>>14222008
I wouldn't like it

I prefer Charizard in NU

Charizard gets used enough by faggots as it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:14:27 No.14222144 Report

Quoted By:

>people attempting to theorymon before the game it out
>before we even know all the pokemon
You guys new to this gen? I'll just use my edgy dragon and I'll like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2013 19:33:23 No.14222711 Report

Quoted By:

>>14222073
>I don't like it because I like the metagame to punish pokemon I hate, rather than keep things interesting
Confirmed for tremendous baby.

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