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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:10:22 No.14262543 View View Reply Original Report

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Gen 1: Horrifying Glitches
Gen 2: Multiple Regions
Gen 3: Beauty Contests
Gen 4: Pokemon that follow you.
Gen 5: An engrossing storyline.

Why does Gamefreak always remove the best feature of each gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:11:38 No.14262589 Report

Quoted By: >>14262686 >>14265172

Except Gen 4 had contests

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:11:51 No.14262594 Report

Quoted By: >>14262661 >>14262667

>Gen 3: Beauty Contests
That's not how you spell abilities or double battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:13:00 No.14262633 Report

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>Gen 3: Trumpets

FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:13:36 No.14262652 Report

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>>14262543
Beauty was only one of the multiple types in contests. Not even Hoenbabby confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:13:56 No.14262661 Report

Quoted By: >>14262781

>>14262594
He's talking about removed features dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:14:10 No.14262666 Report

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Too bad they had to water down Johto to fit an even more watered down Kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:14:10 No.14262667 Report

Quoted By: >>14262781

>>14262594
But they didn't remove those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:14:51 No.14262686 Report

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>>14262589
They're removed *eventually*.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:15:29 No.14262711 Report

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>Beauty Contests
>best feature of Gen 3

Hah, sounds about right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:16:30 No.14262747 Report

Quoted By: >>14262822

>>14262543
>Gen 2: Multiple Regions
>Best Feature

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:17:13 No.14262771 Report

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>>14262543
I think it's because no generation has lived up to the sensational popularity of gen 1, so after each game they say "Make it more like gen 1!!"

So that's what gen 6 is. A model of Gen 1, if they didn't have hardware or software limitations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:17:20 No.14262777 Report

Quoted By: >>14262895 >>14262904

>best features

Gen 1: Pokemon Invented
Gen 2: Hold items / Breeding
Gen 3: Natures / Weather / Abilities
Gen 4: Phys/Spec Split
Gen 5: Learned how to tell a story
Gen 6: 3D

Plus it's worth mentioning that each gen only improves upon the last one.

I did actually enjoy the Pokemon Contests though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:17:29 No.14262781 Report

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>>14262661
>>14262667
Exactly. But they're the best features. So OP is wrong, Gamefreak does not always remove the best feature of each gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:17:30 No.14262783 Report

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>>14262543
>Gen 3: Beauty Contests
>Not secret bases

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:18:38 No.14262822 Report

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>>14262747
Okay, fine. ITT a good feature that is removed, seemingly for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:19:01 No.14262831 Report

Quoted By: >>14262932

>Gen 5: An engrossing storyline.
Sure, it was more substantial the previous gens and the climax was sweet, but engrossing? You sure?

I'm pretty surprised that the gen with 'beauty' as a central concept doesn't have contests though. They were a pretty fun deviation and would fit right in Kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:21:00 No.14262895 Report

Quoted By: >>14262981 >>14265161 >>14265277 >>14265407

>>14262777
>Gen 6: 3D
3D is terrible and can hurt your eyes.

Oh you mean the graphics... then the pokemon don't actually leave their designated areas in a fight, so what's the difference?

And Gen 6 doesn't have a story... so that's not an improvement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:21:16 No.14262904 Report

Quoted By: >>14263020 >>14269003

>>14262777
>Gen 3: Weather

rain dance and sunny day started in GSC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:22:03 No.14262932 Report

Quoted By: >>14263043 >>14265495

>>14262831
Yes. I kept forgetting I was actually supposed to be collecting badges. I wanted to find N and euthenize him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:23:14 No.14262981 Report

Quoted By: >>14265640

>>14262895

They had to make the switch to 3D eventually, it's a big milestone. We can expect it to be a lot better with the next gen.

I'm sure Gen 6 has a decent story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:24:16 No.14263020 Report

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>>14262904

Oh, I guess you're right actually.

Okay, well Breeding and Hold Items were a pretty big deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:24:58 No.14263043 Report

Quoted By: >>14263088 >>14265653

>>14262932
It would be really cool if a future pokemon game allowed you to progress through the region via alternate challenges, like competitions. You wouldn't progress on the story or be able to take on the league, but you'd still be able visit places and feel like you're progressing.

Especially with shit like Amie being introduced. Competitions could be reintroduced in a fresh and engaging way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:26:37 No.14263088 Report

Quoted By: >>14263158

>>14263043

I bet they'll come back in Z, I can see them adding Pokemon costumes and shit too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:28:47 No.14263158 Report

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>>14263088
Yeah, they'll probably fill up that middle southern region while they're at it too and have a 'Southern Kalos Pokedex'.

XY haven't even been released yet and we're already talking about how they could expand it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:33:57 No.14263332 Report

Quoted By: >>14265013

I miss when the following pokemon of HG/SS. Having your bro by your side is a great feeling. I understand that, with the 3D graphics, a following pokemon would be really hard to make (and there are a lot of models), but why didn't they made it for BW too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 20:48:45 No.14263808 Report

Quoted By: >>14265142

Instead, we get to keep triple and rotation battles, which at least I never enjoyed and which always annoyed me.
All while you still get to fight maybe ten double battles per playthrough, after they went through such lengths to preserve it since Gen III while dropping beauty contests, hidden bases, and later badges and ribbons for Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:30:07 No.14265013 Report

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>>14263332
they would just need to take the same battle models and scale it to the overworld... there are this region's dogs all over the damm place in cities...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:32:55 No.14265104 Report

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>Gen 5
>Engrossing storyline

Maybe if you're a kindergartner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:34:03 No.14265124 Report

Quoted By: >>14265196 >>14265574

>>14262543

> gen 5
> an engrossing storyline

I'll give you N, he was cool, but the rest of the plot was paper thin and galactic were shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:34:51 No.14265142 Report

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>>14263808
Aint it a bitch? I'll never understand why hey got rid of secret bases, at the very least

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:35:35 No.14265160 Report

Quoted By: >>14265441

>>14262543
>implying glitches are features
>wanting glitches in your game in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:35:35 No.14265161 Report

Quoted By: >>14265518

>>14262895

>the pokemon don't actually leave their designated areas in a fight

jesus christ cry more babby

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:36:01 No.14265172 Report

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>>14262589
They were nowhere near as fun though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:36:46 No.14265196 Report

Quoted By: >>14265388 >>14265727

>>14265124
>tfw Gen 5's plot was so shit people can't even remember the name of the villain group

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:39:46 No.14265277 Report

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>>14262895
I've never had my eyes hurt by the 3D since the second day the 3DS was out. I played Pilot Wings and Street Fighter all day and I got the worst headache ever as well as a stomach ache, but never again has the 3D affected me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:41:16 No.14265319 Report

Quoted By: >>14265699

The best feature of Gen 5 was the habitat pokedex.

It's gone too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:41:34 No.14265330 Report

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Gentoo: max dvs in all stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:44:01 No.14265388 Report

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>>14265196

lel fuck me your right Plasma then.

I loved how they were dressed in unflattering-armour, were all ginger and their leader wore a massive poncho with doodles on it.

Fucking terrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:44:45 No.14265407 Report

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>>14262895
You know the story of X and Y?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:46:02 No.14265441 Report

Quoted By: >>14266743

>>14265160
It certainly added to the magic and the mystery of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:47:31 No.14265482 Report

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>>14262543
I whole-heartedly agree that those are the best features respectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:47:59 No.14265495 Report

Quoted By: >>14266105 >>14266312

>>14262932

I didn't. Pokemon doesn't do stories very well in my opinion. You always feel like the "story" is just a distraction from the league. In my opinion, having episodic story would be much better. By which I mean:

1) You arrive in a new town/area.
2) Something is wrong.
3) Fix it.
4) Beat the gym leader and move on to next town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:48:42 No.14265518 Report

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>>14265161
I'm fine with it. But I'm not pretending it's a game-changing feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:50:35 No.14265574 Report

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>>14265124

N is a faggot.

Ghetsis is an actual good villian.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:52:32 No.14265640 Report

Quoted By: >>14265703 >>14265801

>>14262981
>I'm sure Gen 6 has a decent story.
Everyone reports it has no story, like the 1st gen. And team blaze are only comic relief.

The exchange is that the world is huge and has almost all pokemon from all generations. It seems like they're trying to make it more like Minecraft than a JRPG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:52:47 No.14265653 Report

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>>14263043

sounds shit and you know it
no one would buy it

when will you all realise people just want their 8 gyms, 4 elite four, 1 champion
nintendo know what people want, anything else is just a distraction like that tryhard gen 5 story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:54:10 No.14265699 Report

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>>14265319
No. The pokedex is divided by habitat again in Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:54:18 No.14265703 Report

Quoted By: >>14265867

>>14265640

>The exchange is that the world is huge and has almost all pokemon from all generations. It seems like they're trying to make it more like Minecraft than a JRPG.

>like minecraft

fucking wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:54:55 No.14265727 Report

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>>14265196
I'm wracking my brain for it right now and I honestly can't remember

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:56:53 No.14265801 Report

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>>14265640

That doesn't sound like they're making it like Minecraft at all.

I'm still sure it'll have a decent story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 21:58:49 No.14265867 Report

Quoted By: >>14265933

>>14265703
Like minecraft in that it's about self-driven, sandbox type goals, rather that drama and story. Your only goal is to see pokemon and fight pokemon and the game gives you the biggest paintbrush possible to do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:01:15 No.14265933 Report

Quoted By: >>14266086

>>14265867

>minecraft invented these things

>these things haven't been at the core of pokemon since gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:03:06 No.14265976 Report

Quoted By: >>14266032

>Poketch
>Following Pokemon
>medals
Every fucking time. They act like every feature is some big new thing, and everyone loves it, then it is axed next generation.

At this rate, why should we believe gen seven will have mega evolutions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:04:42 No.14266032 Report

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>>14265976
It's a battle feature and not an overworld feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:06:23 No.14266086 Report

Quoted By: >>14266133 >>14266259 >>14266405 >>14266646

>>14265933
Minecraft has a huge world. Gen 6 has a huge world. Gen 1 did not have a huge world.

Do I have to explain analogies to you dumb fucks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:07:04 No.14266105 Report

Quoted By: >>14266208

>>14265495
dragonquestinanutshell.txt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:08:02 No.14266133 Report

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>>14266086

I've not seen someone as stupid as you on this board for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:09:30 No.14266172 Report

Quoted By: >>14266419

>>14262543
>Horrifying Glitches
>wanting to keep this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:10:30 No.14266208 Report

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>>14266105

It would be awesome because Pokemon is more a game for collecting and being out in the environment with colorful characters, not all these labs and shit GameFreak loves so much. It would also give them a chance to utilize characters more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:12:09 No.14266259 Report

Quoted By: >>14266494

>>14266086
>comparing the world of Minecraft to the world of a game that came out over 10 years prior on very limiting technology

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:14:05 No.14266312 Report

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>>14265495
Man, I'd love to see DQ styled vignettes in a Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:16:49 No.14266405 Report

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>>14266086

>Every game is like Minecraft.

I found the 12 year old who keeps shitposting everyone!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:17:23 No.14266419 Report

Quoted By: >>14266516

>>14266172
It's not so much glitches as I wish the games had more secrets and msyteries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:17:24 No.14266420 Report

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I miss the pokemon contests from Diamond and Pearl.
And the Pokemon following you like in Soul Silver and Heart Gold.

Really small touches that can make the game much more engrossing , full of stuff to do, immersive and enjoyable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:19:58 No.14266494 Report

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>>14266259
I'm not rating them, fuck. I'm just trying to get behind Gamefreak's rationality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:20:50 No.14266516 Report

Quoted By: >>14266546 >>14267689

>>14266419
In that case, didn't Gen 3 bring that back? Shit, the requirements to get Feebas sounds like a retarded Gen 1 rumor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:22:15 No.14266546 Report

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>>14266516

I actually did believe it was a rumor when my friend told me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:22:59 No.14266566 Report

Quoted By: >>14266612 >>14266693 >>14266747

>>14262543
>Gen 4: Pokemon that follow you.
The fuck are you talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:24:36 No.14266612 Report

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>>14266566
HG/SS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:25:58 No.14266646 Report

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>>14266086
Can you please stop talking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:27:02 No.14266693 Report

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>>14266566
HG/SS is considered Gen 4, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:29:14 No.14266743 Report

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>>14265441
>M-MUH CHARM!
When the best feature you can come up with for a game is 'the glitches', that might be a hint that your game is fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 22:29:20 No.14266747 Report

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>>14266566
>Fire Red/Leaf Green = third gen
>Heart Gold/Soul Silver = fourth gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 23:02:21 No.14267689 Report

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>>14266516

Gen 3 had a bunch of fun little secrets and things like that, its why it was my favorite. I liked how half the map was pretty open and had stuff to explore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 23:42:14 No.14268958 Report

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>>14262543
Don't know why GF does that OP, but I wholeheartedly agree with every Gen. point you made

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2013 23:43:52 No.14269003 Report

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>>14262904
>they forgot Sandstorm

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