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Diggersby

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 05:11:02 No.14282714 View View Reply Original Report

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What's the word on this smug motherfucker's stats? I realize Bunnelby/Diggersby is in the Rattata position, but I kind of want to use it if its stats aren't too shitty. I'm hoping that just like they turned the regional bugs into something halfway decent in Gen V, they made the Rattata not suck ass in Gen VI. What kind of stats does this bitch have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 05:14:03 No.14282840 Report

Quoted By: >>14283083 >>14284464

Good defenses and speed. Shitty attacking stats. Think Serperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 05:21:14 No.14283083 Report

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>>14282840

With around Serperior's stat total, or significantly lower? Are we talking roughly 100 base Speed or higher and actual bulk, or are we talking, say, Furret's Speed and Bibarel's bulk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 05:32:29 No.14283454 Report

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I'll admit a significant part of my reason for wanting to use this is its smug-ass expression and ridiculous Popeye arms, but I also like both Normal-types and Ground-types and like to have them on my team if possible. I've also never kept one of the regional early-game mammal things on my team all the way through to the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 05:42:27 No.14283780 Report

Quoted By: >>14284033 >>14284524

Anyone else thinking of using him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 05:50:00 No.14284033 Report

Quoted By: >>14284464

>>14283780

Yeah, I'll probably use him for the early game at least and possibly longer, considering he's the ONLY new ground type available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 06:05:59 No.14284464 Report

Quoted By: >>14284788

>>14284033

At least he isn't also the only Normal-type, if I decide I want one but don't care that much about Ground anymore. We've got Diggersby, Pyroar, Heliolisk, and...that's it, isn't it? I'm not missing anything?

>>14282840

How good/shitty are we talking here? Any screenshots of the actual stat screen? I think there was one of those yesterday but I didn't think to save it or examine it closely at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 06:08:11 No.14284524 Report

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>>14283780
I hope it will be as Usefull as Lilpup in B/W
And I never trained a ground type in game besides flygon, so it will be refreshing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 06:19:35 No.14284788 Report

Quoted By: >>14287010

>>14284464

There definitely was a stat screen image at some point. Anyone happen to save it?

(Yeah, I know, implying anyone would bother saving that. Might as well ask.)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 07:42:03 No.14287010 Report

Quoted By: >>14289207 >>14289269 >>14289520

>>14284788

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 09:31:38 No.14289207 Report

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>>14287010

Excellent. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 09:37:05 No.14289269 Report

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>>14287010
Aw man, it's Normal/Ground? That's a pretty sweet typing actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 09:54:31 No.14289520 Report

Quoted By: >>14289548 >>14289555 >>14289704

>>14287010

Damn. Assuming this was relatively freshly caught when the screenshot was taken, with minimal EVs earned, this thing has to have HP, Defense, and Special Defense all somewhere around 80 and Speed not much better, with garbage Attack and Special Attack. Doesn't look particularly frail or slow, but it's not bulky or fast enough to make up for those shitty attacking stats unless it gets some amazing moves I don't know about. I'm rather discouraged about using it now. Looks like a weaker Serperior, presumably without Serperior's saving grace of having Coil to boost its stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 09:56:14 No.14289548 Report

Quoted By: >>14289673 >>14289704

>>14289520

It's this generation's Raticate. Don't expect much...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 09:56:34 No.14289555 Report

Quoted By: >>14289673 >>14289704

>>14289520
Well, diggersby is basically the raticate/furret/biberal/etc. of this gen

It's pretty shitty by design

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 09:58:13 No.14289584 Report

Quoted By: >>14289770

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:02:03 No.14289673 Report

Quoted By: >>14289795

>>14289555
>>14289548

Yeah, I know...I was just hoping maybe it might be a bit stronger since they made the regional early-route bugs stronger in Gen V. It looks like they didn't, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:03:31 No.14289704 Report

Quoted By: >>14289764

>>14289520
>>14289548
>>14289555

compared to those three, it's pretty stellar, all things considered

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:05:34 No.14289752 Report

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really, you guys shouldn't complain about the early com mons for being weak. They're that way not by tradition, but by design. It's to create the sense of a learning curve, and necessitate capturing and learning about other Pokemon you encounter along your journey for newcomers. They're not designed to have a role in the metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:06:20 No.14289764 Report

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>>14289704

Depending on the IVs of the particular Diggersby that was caught, it could definitely be somewhat better than average for that group. But ultimately that's still not saying much. It'll probably end up being by far the weakest party member in the late game if I train it and keep it in my party all the way through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:06:32 No.14289770 Report

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>>14289584
someone redraw this with him drinking nesquik

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:08:01 No.14289795 Report

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>>14289673
To be honest Gen 5 designers seemed to just have a hard-on for bug-types. Volcarona and Genesect are godly, and things like Escavalier, Accelgor, Galvantula, Durant and Crustle all have good niches. Even Leavanny and Scolipede are pretty okay.
Not to mention the fact that there's a hell of a lot of them.

So I think it's just bug-type in general that they wanted to improve, not just the early-route things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:22:28 No.14290069 Report

Quoted By: >>14290214

Who cares what its stats are? Just use it.

Only like 12 or whatever pokémon are competitively viable when used online, what with japanese trainers having a massive hard-on for EV-trained pseudos and broken pokémon. Are you gonna limit yourself to those select few just because you want to win so badly? There are no pokemon that can't go through the game's story/gyms and be unable to win, so just concentrate on that.

Use Diggersby. Love Diggersby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:29:55 No.14290214 Report

Quoted By: >>14290298

>>14290069

I'm not talking about online. I'm talking about is this thing going to be a pain to grind up to par if I want to use it in-game. Right now it looks like it's just about borderline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 10:34:16 No.14290298 Report

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>>14290214
Pokemon with weaker stats are generally in the Fast EXP group though.

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