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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:39:11 No.14292329 View View Reply Original Report

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>B-BUT IT'S JUST A RUMOR!
>B-BUT GF WOULD BE STUPID TO ONLY HAVE 70 NEW POKEMON!
>B-BUT THEY'LL ADD MORE MID-GENERATION!
>B-BUT WE HAD TOO MANY GROUND TYPES!
>B-BUT SOME OF THE DESIGNS ARE FINE!
>B-BUT QUALITY OVER QUANTITY!

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:42:32 No.14292388 Report

Quoted By: >>14292419 >>14293080

>implying I give a shit

The fact that a shitload of Pokemon from previous generations are readily available shows that the focus really isn't the new Pokemon, but rather the new features, style, and mechanics.

Stop being a bunch of collection drones and enjoy the damn game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:43:23 No.14292397 Report

Quoted By: >>14292417

that quality over quantity argument is bullshit when we have crap like aromatisse, quilladin and spewpa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:44:07 No.14292417 Report

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>>14292397

And an upside down iceberg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:44:12 No.14292419 Report

Quoted By: >>14292499

>>14292388
This. I wish GameFreak didn't add any new pokemon at all, actually, so I can just play the same game over and over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:45:39 No.14292442 Report

Quoted By: >>14292510

If you take a step back and look on what we've seen I am kind of alright with 70.

70 isn't a small number considering the amount we have already. I won't lie, I'm fucking disappointed. I'd love to see more fresh designs such as Goomy, but we get what we can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:46:01 No.14292448 Report

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To be fair,the games will still be good and will sell like hot cake,but to say they will be the best in the series is ridiculous. I'm expecting to see gen.5 nostalgia threads in about a month after the hype subsides.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:46:11 No.14292454 Report

Quoted By: >>14292510

I would've liked for Game Freak to add more new Pokemon, but I'm not planning on skipping out on X/Y because of it. With Mega Evolutions and being able to use Pokemon from previous generations, it should be fine.
...
I really wanted a new legendary trio and a second Eeveelution for this generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:48:55 No.14292499 Report

Quoted By: >>14292576 >>14292598

>>14292419
>durr new Pokemon are the only thing differentiating the current gen from previous gens

And you're an even BIGGER retard for saying this about X and Y, since we know it changed a ton of shit from previous generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:49:39 No.14292510 Report

Quoted By: >>14292625

>>14292442
There are a lot of shitty XY designs. Probably similar ratio to past generations, unless you include the abominations that are Mega Pokemon.
The number we have matters less to me than the number of good new toys I get to play with. Having everything old included is just padding, what I'm interested in is new stuff. Otherwise I'll just play B/W again.

>>14292454
>but I'm not planning on skipping out on X/Y because of it
I see this a lot, and I have to wonder how little GF would have to do for people like you to feel that you actually should skip out on a generation.
Every time I see this, I just feel like it's post-preorder rationalization.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:52:48 No.14292554 Report

Quoted By: >>14292576

It's funny because the guys who ride on the weak points of XY are going to buy it anyways and post how big their Mega Charizard X dicks are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:54:22 No.14292576 Report

Quoted By: >>14292601 >>14292614

>>14292499
Apart from the jump to 3D and a handful of the Mega Evolutions, there isn't a lot that is interesting to me. Amie is literally a gimmick, Almost every Fairy has low BST and will never see use in a tier that has non-Alteria dragons, the new villainous team and plot are apparently bland...

>>14292554
I'm not going to buy it because, after going through the leaks both here and on SA, I'm not impressed with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:55:41 No.14292598 Report

Quoted By: >>14292646 >>14292694

>>14292499
>can't wait to see my pokemon follow me
>what they took it out? Okay I guess
>can't wait to play at the awesome battle frontier
>what they took it out? Okay I guess
>can't wait to use dream world for alternate abilities
>what they took it out? Okay I guess
>can't wait to be able to catch all the legendaries this time
>what they took it out? Okay I guess
>can't wait to explore the awesome post game areas
>what they took it out? Okay I guess
>can't wait to see movable sprites
>what they took it out? Okay I guess
>3rd game comes out
>"oh wow! look at all the COOL NEW INNOVATIVE features we've NEVER SEEN BEFORE!"
Same shit is gonna happen here too, but sure keep swallowing the regurgitated shit gamefreak is giving you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:56:02 No.14292601 Report

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>>14292576
>Almost every Fairy has low BST
Source

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:56:28 No.14292614 Report

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>>14292576
Yeah OK.
You wanna do some trading after it gets here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:56:34 No.14292617 Report

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So we have seen all the megas there are? Disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:56:57 No.14292625 Report

Quoted By: >>14292673

>>14292510
Some people just like Pokemon. The game itself. We don't require a certain amount of content to feed off of and keep us entertained.

Does that make me a Denialfag? I dunno, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 12:58:08 No.14292646 Report

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>>14292598
do you post here with the only intention of making people hate pokemon ad much as you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:00:21 No.14292673 Report

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>>14292601
The leaks. I've been using a calculator to measure BST ranges for every new mon we've seen, and almost all of them suffer from generally low stats (Klefki) or solid offenses but low speed.
The most threatening non-legendary fairy we know about is Sylveon, which will be BST 525 and apparently has a lot of special bulk.

>>14292625
I guess I just don't feel the need to buy every Pokemon game. I buy what impresses me, rather than approaching it with the assumption that I'll eventually buy it and 'negative-marking' my way into the "preorder cancelled" range. Honestly, I think that's the right way to do things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:01:34 No.14292688 Report

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What is with all the little stupid ass puffball pokemon this generation? Seriously over half the pokemon are little blobs or puffballs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:02:00 No.14292694 Report

Quoted By: >>14292831

>>14292598
Having your Pokemon following you was cool, but it wasn't that cool.
We have a Battle tower for us to battle in with our pokemon
There's an item that allow us to switch our pokemon's abilities.No word on if DW abilities are usable.
Xerneas,Yveltal,Zygarde,and Mewtwo are good enough. We might encounter more.
Meh, I understand this a bit but the main game seems far more superior compare to the others so there's that.
Movable 3-D animations with excellent battle animations. Way better than sprites IMO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:02:38 No.14292711 Report

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ITT: /v/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:05:28 No.14292767 Report

Quoted By: >>14292797 >>14292831

is Zygarde any good? I missed the leaks last night.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:06:58 No.14292797 Report

Quoted By: >>14292867 >>14293200 >>14293301

>>14292767

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:08:26 No.14292831 Report

Quoted By: >>14293200

>>14292694
>There's an item that allow us to switch our pokemon's abilities
It's confirmed to switch between a Pokemon's natural abilities, according to SA. Something with just one natural ability can't use it.

>>14292767
Another physically-offensive Dragon/Ground type, situational ability that only affects the other two members of the trio, probably decent movepool, acceptable speed stat for ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:09:50 No.14292849 Report

Quoted By: >>14292926 >>14293015 >>14293016

I'd prefer if gen 7 had ZERO new pokémon but rebooted the franchise. Too many things make no sense for the sake of continuity and backwards compatibility, like how to obtain a Leafeon or a Munchlax. Too many things were bullshit in gen 1 and are still bullshit, like HM slaves. Too many pokémon are either forgotten entirely or essentially forced to have dream world abilities. Why add 100 new pokémon, many of which will be worthless, when you can make 200 old pokémon competitiely viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:10:27 No.14292867 Report

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>>14292797
he looks like someone from warhammer 40k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:13:51 No.14292926 Report

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>>14292849
I have a feeling the main series needs to split. One branch could keep on doing what we have now,and the other could have less Pokemon and be more storyline and difficulty oriented,maybe even be on a home console.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:18:33 No.14293015 Report

Quoted By: >>14293040

>>14292849
OP here, I see what you're saying. I would like some of the PU mons to get a serious boost.
The thing is that GF clearly has lost interest in balancing the game for competitive play post-Platinum. On other things, they've just been lazy because they could get away with it. Handheld games have been 3D since the DS came out. I don't need another Caterpie line, and I'm fine if they reuse Tentacool rather than making ANOTHER dozen water lines. I still want new mons, but I'd rather that they seriously focus on the content of the game (and making seriously good new mons) than just adding filler. Hell, if they made the early-game all recycled mons and made the late game full of 70 useful, versatile and cool new mons, I wouldn't complain at all.
The problem here is that the new mon list HAS all the filler and not a whole lot more than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:18:36 No.14293016 Report

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>>14292849
Because most people don't give a shit about pokemon being competitively viable.

If they can kill AI in the game they are satisified

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:19:34 No.14293040 Report

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>>14293015
>Handheld games have been 3D since the DS came out.
Most non-Pokemon handheld games*
Just to clarify.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:21:34 No.14293080 Report

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>>14292388
I think this guy is close to Gamefreak's intentions with this game.

Looking at things like the HUGE number of old Pokemon available, and Gym Leaders' and Elite Four's teams, it seems like Gamefreak expects players to go through the game with a team of half old Pokemon, and half new.

Only having 70 new Pokemon would encourage that. And it would also put emphasis on the Mega Evolutions since only old Pokemon have those. I think that was their idea, and that they wanted to change the formula from having at least 100 new Pokemon every generation. Whether most of us think that will be a bad change or not, I guess we'll have to see in a week. I think my opinion will hinge on how many Megas we end up with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:24:07 No.14293124 Report

Quoted By: >>14293175

Why did they have to be mega forms? Should have just made them new evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:26:20 No.14293175 Report

Quoted By: >>14293227 >>14293286 >>14293383

>>14293124
>Going to have to watch the pokemon turn into mega form at the start of every battle

Kill me now

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:27:25 No.14293200 Report

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>>14292797
>>14292831
Thank you Based Anons.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:28:48 No.14293227 Report

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>>14293175
>Text Speed menu has only two options
>Slow or Gates to Infinity

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:29:31 No.14293242 Report

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I don't get the stats of this thing. 100 HP seems pretty clear, but what about that Attack and Special Attack? Unless Kanpachi got really unlucky and got on both of them 0 IVs, that thing doesn't have more than 90 on both. Same goes for Special Defense. Defense and Speed on the other hand seem to be pretty high. I'm betting at least 110 Speed and 130 Defense.
So it would be something like 100/90/130/85/85/110. Is this worth as Uber material though? It seems barely capable of reaching 600 BST, and even if I miscalculated something I can't see it going higher than 620. Even Kyurem, the incomplete Dragon had at least 660 BST, lower than your average Uber but high enough to be a terrifying threat, at least if you have a good typing and a nice movepool. This could mean we could see another legendary like Kyurem in OU, expecially with the new Fairy type giving an hard type to dragons in this gen. Non-competitively-wise, this could also start speculations about new forms for Zygarde in the next version, or maybe just a Mega Evolution or two. What do you, think everybody?

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:30:59 No.14293278 Report

Quoted By: >>14293318 >>14293362 >>14293390

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:31:33 No.14293286 Report

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>>14293175
>yfw Game Freak reboots the entire Pokemon franchise before the National Pokedex reaches 1000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:32:15 No.14293301 Report

Quoted By: >>14293337

>>14292797

>Camoflage

erm, has anyone leveled this thing up yet?

I mean, Skrelp can't be the only pokemon to use this as an evolution method.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:32:50 No.14293318 Report

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>>14293278
Both Giratina and Kyurem ended up getting new forms as cover legendaries of the third game (or sequel). You decide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:33:49 No.14293337 Report

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>>14293301
>Evolve an obvious future box legendary
nigga wut u bin smokin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:34:22 No.14293346 Report

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does anyone really give a shit whether or not you're going to purchase the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:34:57 No.14293362 Report

Quoted By: >>14293422 >>14293440

>>14293278
>Fairys
>Being a threat
The only viable fairies are Xerneas and probably Sylveon the rest just have shit-tier BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:36:11 No.14293383 Report

Quoted By: >>14293544

>>14293175
Actually Mega Evolution is optional. You trigger it and select a move, then it Mega Evolves and does the move you selected.

You don't HAVE to Mega Evolve in a battle, sometimes that would be a bad thing. What if your Ampharos went up against a Fairy-type and Mega Evolved, making it weaker because it gained the Dragon-type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:36:38 No.14293390 Report

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>>14293278
>Worthless ability
>Outclassed offensively by Garchomp
>Outclassed as an RK by Flygon
>Might even be slower than Mismagius, which may be the only real OU Fairy-type (if it even is a Fairy)
>Acceptable-looking movepool but without the stats
>Can't wall properly with that HP

It'll probably be used to spread status and roar. Fast-Bulky doesn't seem to be useful for much more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:38:28 No.14293422 Report

Quoted By: >>14293598 >>14293616

>>14293362
>Gardevoir
>Shit-tier BST

Unless we're talking potential OU or Uber tier play then yeah I can see that.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:39:24 No.14293440 Report

Quoted By: >>14293497 >>14293598 >>14293616

>>14293362
>Mawile with Huge Power is not a threat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:41:56 No.14293497 Report

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>>14293440
>that file name
what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:43:58 No.14293544 Report

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>>14293383
this babies can't imagine strategy until smogon spells it out for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:46:03 No.14293598 Report

Quoted By: >>14293736

>>14293422
>80 Speed
>68 HP
>65 Defense
That mega is going to need to be a serious speed buff for this thing to be a threat. Every dangerous dragon is either physically oriented or mixed and can just outspeed/OHKO Gardevoir with a neutral STAB or physical coverage move. The only one that might cause trouble is Balloon Gardevoir vs +0 Fire Fang SDChomp.

>>14293440
Not him, but I forgot about Mawile as well. It's an interesting case, since it has 17% higher attack than Deoxys A (assuming 0 attack boost from its mega), but no high base power moves, particularly on the STAB side. It'll probably be a big physical threat in TR teams, but unless it gets some nice attacks, it probably will end up acting as a slightly-bulkier but less-damaging non-mixed Deoxys and a timer on how long it can sweep.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:46:44 No.14293616 Report

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>>14293422
>>14293440
Oh wow, I was thinking about the new gen 6 fairies and completely forgot about the retyped ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 13:52:04 No.14293736 Report

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>>14293598
Mawile has Rhydon Syndrome but without EdgeQuake.
It gets powerful moves like Fire Blast/Focus Blast/Ice Beam/Solar Beam but it can't use them at all.
All it has is non-stab Stone Edge, Brick Break, and Sucker Punch + STAB Iron Head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2013 14:13:57 No.14294313 Report

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It's alright, OP, we know you're just a genwunner. Cry it out.

chesnaught_juggernaut

chesnaught_juggernaut Sun 06 Oct 2013 14:19:04 No.14294439 Report

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so, basically, kalos is sorta like johto. it brings on a new type but not many new pokemon....gold/silver and crystal were my favorite games so I'm perfectly content with 70 pokemon.

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