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DelphoxFire !!Nqt2JS2uFrn Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:18:54 No.14358004 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14358743 >>14358839 >>14358850 >>14358859 >>14358922 >>14359058 >>14359131 >>14359135 >>14360170 >>14362910 >>14362935

I did some number crunching for you guys....

>Chesnaught
90/100/125/75/75/65
>Delphox
75/65/70/130/90/100
>Greninja
80/80/70/100/65/125
>Sylveon
110/60/65/95/130/65
>Tyrantrum
100/110/105/75/60/60
>Aegislash
90/85/150/75/160/70
>Mega Gardevoir
83/65/65/165/135/100
>Mega Blaziken
80/145/70/135/70/110
>Mega Venusaur
80/82/103/135/135/80

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:35:31 No.14358587 Report

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>Mega Gardevoir's stats

YES. SO MUCH YES. I'M CUMMING ALREADY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:36:08 No.14358614 Report

Quoted By: >>14358781

Poor Tyrantrum....could have been really good, instead its just Nidoking Lite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:37:13 No.14358652 Report

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Any chance you could get Zygarde's stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:38:58 No.14358712 Report

Quoted By: >>14359992

Is it HP / Atk / Def / SpAtk / SpDef / Spd?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:39:59 No.14358743 Report

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>>14358004
Hmmm. Idk about 80 atk on Greninja.

Seems a bit low

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:40:33 No.14358769 Report

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>Starter
>130 stat

That don't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:41:02 No.14358781 Report

Quoted By: >>14358847

>>14358614
Remember though, these things can all be EV trained early in the game, so you dont waste EV's into random stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:42:47 No.14358839 Report

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>>14358004
>Greninja
Could use a bit more Physical Attack.
>Mega Gardevoir
FUCK YES. I KNEW MY POKE SIS WAS BOUND FOR EVER GREATER EPICNESS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:42:56 No.14358847 Report

Quoted By: >>14358891 >>14358897

>>14358781
>EV training early in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:43:00 No.14358850 Report

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>>14358004
>mega gardevoir

That thing can be koed by 1 sucker punch.

Hell even a boosted Absol bite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:43:23 No.14358859 Report

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>>14358004
>Aegislash has 630 BST

I don't think so, Tim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:44:08 No.14358891 Report

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>>14358847
Super training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:44:22 No.14358897 Report

Quoted By: >>14359702 >>14362290

>>14358847
yes.

This is a good way to maximize your pokes strengths.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:45:20 No.14358922 Report

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>>14358004
>Aegislash
>630 BST
So did that just come directly out of your ass?
Everyone else says its around 55/150/55/50/140/50, swapping offense and defense when the Forme changes.
And what are you basing Mega Gardevoir from? Nobody's actually caught one yet.
>Mega Blaziken
Now I know you're just making shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:45:43 No.14358934 Report

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>Believing stats on pokemon nobody has yet

You people can't be serious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:47:18 No.14358988 Report

Quoted By: >>14359035

Those estimates are WAY off from what Smogon's calculated them as.

Greninja, for instance is more like:

85/95/70/105/70/115

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:48:49 No.14359035 Report

Quoted By: >>14359129

>>14358988
Smogons stats were different. It was more like this:

80/90/70/105/60/128

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:50:01 No.14359058 Report

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>>14358004
So are these starters better than the last, at least stat-wise?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:50:14 No.14359070 Report

Quoted By: >>14359164

>still no Meowstic stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:52:04 No.14359129 Report

Quoted By: >>14359178 >>14359645

>>14359035
That speed is FAR too high from the 2-3 Greninja we've seen.

It doesn't have 120 base speed, much less 130..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:52:13 No.14359131 Report

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>>14358004
your stats suck shit, mega blaziken isnt even out yet and the site doesnt say mega blazken is getting extra special attack, its only getting an attack boost and maybe some defenses

not to mention there isnt even a screenshot of mega venusaur or blastoise yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:52:16 No.14359135 Report

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>>14358004
Go back to the calculator. Every single one of those looks incorrectly, except Delphox, which looks pretty close, and Venusaur, which I haven't seen stats for. For example, Tyrantrum will have a BST of 495, like all fossils. Sylveon has been seen to have 95 base HP by numerous other calculations. Aegislash does not have 90 base HP. It's more like 50 or 60.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:52:51 No.14359150 Report

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>Aegislash: 630 BST
Yeah, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:53:12 No.14359164 Report

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>>14359070
It's not going to be good. I don't know what the fuck you're excited for

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:54:02 No.14359178 Report

Quoted By: >>14359212

>>14359129
I promise, it was really that high.

I mean, cmon, this things pokedex entry is listed as being super fast. And plus, look at Delphox's spAtk. Shits 135

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:55:31 No.14359212 Report

Quoted By: >>14359255

>>14359178
Escavalier is fast as fuck then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:56:20 No.14359233 Report

Quoted By: >>14359269 >>14359288 >>14359340 >>14360652 >>14360953

Since OP is a faggot of stupid proportions, I figured I'd include a source of non-idiots: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-xy-data-collection.3489182/

However, I maintain that Greninja actually has equal offenses, with a stat spread somewhere along the lines of
HP: 80
Atk: 95
Def: 75
SpAt: 95
SpDf: 75
Spd: 115
BST: 535

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:57:02 No.14359255 Report

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>>14359212
uggg

I knew someone would bring that up. Eh, oh well, we'll see in a few days

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:57:39 No.14359269 Report

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>>14359233
ehhh.... it looks closer to 90 attack than 95. This way it will be at 530 BST and not an overpowered starter like infernape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 04:58:07 No.14359288 Report

Quoted By: >>14359347

>>14359233
man...

Those are so fucking underwhelming. Its sad to think about...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:00:06 No.14359340 Report

Quoted By: >>14359566

>>14359233
It cant hit incredibly hard, but cant really take a hit either.

Gonna be in good in game, but I really dont see any competitive use for him, sadly.

Unless of course, he gets a new ability technician pls gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:00:28 No.14359347 Report

Quoted By: >>14359442

>>14359288
it would be better in the rain.

Thought the special stat looks a lot higher than 95, its obvious that the special stat is higher than the attack based on the level 36 greninja we saw.

115 speed coupled with 105+ sp.atk in the rain is gr8. Im also fully expecting nasty plot on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:04:04 No.14359442 Report

Quoted By: >>14359488 >>14359498

>>14359347
If he gets Skill Link or Technician, his Water Shuriken will be ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:06:51 No.14359488 Report

Quoted By: >>14359515

>>14359442
>Skill Link

112.5factored in stab priority that breaks bands and sturdy

Hory shet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:07:11 No.14359498 Report

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>>14359442
techinician is only for pokemon that can specialize in a certain move, froakie looks like it is highly specialized in water shuriken, so it probably will get the ability

its a physical attack though, have fun with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:07:47 No.14359515 Report

Quoted By: >>14359764

>>14359488
And also gets boosted in Rain.

Water is the new Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:09:35 No.14359561 Report

Quoted By: >>14359620

>Yfw the leakers have all been abusing vitamins/hyper training to skew stat spreads and troll everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:09:43 No.14359566 Report

Quoted By: >>14359608 >>14359650 >>14359869

>>14359340
>95 base offenses
>incredibly hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:11:33 No.14359608 Report

Quoted By: >>14359652

>>14359566
>can't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:11:52 No.14359620 Report

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>>14359561

>implying these casuals know their ass from their elbow when it come's to pokemon, let alone aspects of competitive battling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:12:55 No.14359645 Report

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>>14359129

Far too high? Greninja, in the level 36 picture, assuming a nature neutral to speed, can have a max of 135 speed (actually a little less than 140, but I didn't get THAT specific). Although, that's assuming 0 IVs in speed but 128 is definitely not impossible. Hell, the only way it wouldn't be possible is if the Greninja in that picture had a Speed-positive nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:13:13 No.14359650 Report

Quoted By: >>14359719 >>14359779

>>14359566
?

>>14359498
thats even better that its physical. Now you can have a nice mixed offensive.

I can already see it.

-water shuriken
-surf/hydro pump
-ice beam
-night slash/sucker punch

You could probably swap out water shuriken for something like aerial ace, or hi jump kick just to get some better coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:13:17 No.14359652 Report

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>>14359608
whoops, disregard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:15:04 No.14359702 Report

Quoted By: >>14359768

>>14358897

more like a good way to ruin the fun of the game, fucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:15:33 No.14359719 Report

Quoted By: >>14359767 >>14359793

>>14359650
>Aerial ace
>mixed attackers
It's really painful to watch people who know nothing about competitive pokemon talk about competitive pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:17:29 No.14359764 Report

Quoted By: >>14359801 >>14360043

>>14359515

water has always been the new dragon since gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:17:37 No.14359767 Report

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>>14359719

but arul ace iz OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:17:38 No.14359768 Report

Quoted By: >>14359831

>>14359702
You dont have to super train, mate

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:17:54 No.14359779 Report

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>>14359650
>aerial ace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:18:43 No.14359793 Report

Quoted By: >>14359864

>>14359719
Nigga...

What are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:18:56 No.14359801 Report

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>>14359764

>inb4 the new weather quadruples damage that Dragons deal and gives them 2x resistance to everything
>inb4 the new weather has already been explained and I just look like an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:19:58 No.14359831 Report

Quoted By: >>14359843

>>14359768

you're right, I DON'T have to ruin the fun of the game.

thanks for the heads up, m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:20:35 No.14359843 Report

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>>14359831
np

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:21:19 No.14359864 Report

Quoted By: >>14359945

>>14359793
Aerial is shit competitively, and the only somewhat viable mixed attacker is Infernape. He obviously knows nothing about competitive pokemon if he thinks that his proposed set is any good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:21:25 No.14359869 Report

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>>14359566
He said can't hit incredibly hard dipshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:24:48 No.14359945 Report

Quoted By: >>14360084

>>14359864
First off, this wasnt just for competitive play.

Second, I put aerial ace in there assuming he had access to Technician. Aerial ace would guarantee a hard hit against the 5 bagillion fighting types, and grass.

And third: With these stats that we've been shown, it has stats similar to Infernape, and just as viable typing.

I'm not the best competitive battler, but that don't mean that i know nothing about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:27:01 No.14359992 Report

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>>14358712
When hasn't it been?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:29:16 No.14360043 Report

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>>14359764
If Lightning Weather becomes popular it'll be a major threat to dominant Waters and Steels, and we already have what appears to be the Fairy equivalent.

The real question is if we're going to get permanent sources from either one. In Fairy's case I have my doubts that we'll have enough pokemon/move distribution to justify Fairy teams, but Electric will be extremely potent if they get their own Politoed/Ninetails equivalent.

Either way it looks like Gamefreak is going balls to the wall with Weather meta. It was really fucking annoying when Water and Sand were the only real choices, but it may be interesting if more weathers are added to the mix. At the very least it means that we'll have multiple tactical objectives in matches in the form of setting up Hazards, controlling Weather, and dealing with the opposing Mega/establishing your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:30:17 No.14360084 Report

Quoted By: >>14360203

>>14359945
I'll give you the technician part, I didn't see that.
>and just as viable typing
Pffftt what? No, Fire/Fighting is an amazing offensive type while Water/Dark is only half good. Even losing the resistance to Steel, Dark is a mediocre offensive type.

He honestly doesn't need a dark move, and why run sucker punch when you have Water Shuriken (assuming rain and technician/skill link)? And still, mixed sets are shit for competitive play. The only reason Infernape can do it is because of Overheat + 3 physical moves, while I see two physical and two special moves on your set.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:34:22 No.14360170 Report

Quoted By: >>14360285

>>14358004
>83/65/65/165/135/100

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:36:23 No.14360203 Report

Quoted By: >>14360237 >>14360271 >>14360285

>>14360084
water/dark is pretty damn good typing man. I cant think of anything it wouldn't be able to hit for at least neutrality. Couple that with rain, and you have an excellent revenge killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:38:23 No.14360237 Report

Quoted By: >>14360309

>>14360203
it's shit typing. Just adds more weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:40:03 No.14360271 Report

Quoted By: >>14360652 >>14360785

>>14360203
Oh shit, forgot to include why a dark type would be nice.

It would be nice because to cover the psychics and ghosts.

The aerial ace would take care of any fighting/grass/bug niggas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:40:30 No.14360285 Report

Quoted By: >>14360362 >>14360431 >>14360476

>>14360170
252 SpA Life Orb Gardevoir Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Dewgong: 346-408 (90.1 - 106.25%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Mega Gardevoir Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Dewgong: 328-386 (85.41 - 100.52%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO
Mega Garde is less powerful than normal garde, don't let these base stats fool you.
>>14360203
Grass/Fighting, Water/Fighting, and Grass/Dark to name a few. You also have a weakness to Mach Punch, which coupled with it's frailty means it's gonna get OHKOd. Not to mention it's a shit defensive typing, while Fire/Fighting actually has a shit ton of resistances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:41:34 No.14360309 Report

Quoted By: >>14360440 >>14360537

>>14360237
It really isnt man.

It only has to watch out for fighting and bug, which aerial ace powered by technician can take a nasty chunk out of. It has a free switch in (and possible set up) to psychic types

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:43:48 No.14360362 Report

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>>14360285
>Grass/Fighting, Water/Fighting, and Grass/Dark to name a few. You also have a weakness to Mach Punch, which coupled with it's frailty means it's gonna get OHKOd. Not to mention it's a shit defensive typing, while Fire/Fighting actually has a shit ton of resistances.

cmon man, everything has weaknesses. infernape has a weakness to a priority attack in aqua jet, and hes frail as hell too. Doesnt make him a bad pok

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:44:10 No.14360370 Report

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Greninja's stats seem abysmal. I'm all for a glass cannon water starter, but at least give him the stats to be viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:45:58 No.14360418 Report

Quoted By: >>14363056

>instead of using megavolutions to make shit pokemon finally viable
>give it to Uber pokemon like Blaziken
I'm assuming Gamefreak don't even know a meta exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:46:26 No.14360431 Report

Quoted By: >>14360476

>>14360285
Yea, these megas are only gonna be useful in game, not the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:46:48 No.14360440 Report

Quoted By: >>14360530

>>14360309
The problem is almost every psychic/ghost has Aura Sphere/Focus Blast for Dark and Steel types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:48:09 No.14360476 Report

Quoted By: >>14360564

>>14360285
>>14360431
I'm not sure why you're doing calcs when they're not even the real stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:50:06 No.14360530 Report

Quoted By: >>14360601

>>14360440
But that wont really matter.

This thing is fast. It has a stab dark, coming off of a decent 105 base sp atk is a bad day for any pyschic/ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:50:24 No.14360537 Report

Quoted By: >>14360611

>>14360309
>It only has to watch out for fighting and bug
You do realize that fighting is a very common type and you forgot fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:51:19 No.14360564 Report

Quoted By: >>14360836

>>14360476
Im not doing calcs, but these calcs seem to be at least close to the actual thing,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:53:13 No.14360601 Report

Quoted By: >>14360675

>>14360530
He's fast but not faster than Alakazam/Gengar. I think he's useable but probably not for the dark STAB, unless he's lucky enough to get Sucker Punch/Pursuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:53:27 No.14360611 Report

Quoted By: >>14360652

>>14360537
Oh yea, i did forget about fairy.

But yea, i know that fighting is a common typing, thats why I gave it aerial ace. I know it wouldnt be able to take on these guys head on. I think it would funciton better as a late game/revenge/ kilelr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:55:35 No.14360652 Report

Quoted By: >>14360701 >>14360779

>>14360271
>checks Ghosts and Psychics
Let's look at the Psychic types in OU. Latias can balk a night slash and then slap your shit with Thunderbolt. Latios is going to be faster because it's scarfed and will slap your shit with thunderbolt. Reuniclus can balk a night slash and slap your shit with focus blast. Celebi can balk a night slash and then giga drain you, recovering back the health it lost. Alakazam is faster than you and can fuck your shit with focus blast. Jirachi can either balk the night slash and body slam you, get the para hax and fuck you up, fuck you with Thunder in rain, or use thunder punch, on top of the fact that it could probably flinch hax you with a scarfed iron head. Starmie you might have checked, but if you can't OHKO it (assuming you're faster) then it fuck you with Thunderbolt. Espeon you have countered though.
Gengar you have checked unless it's scarfed, then you're fucked. Even then, switching into a Shadow Ball will do a good chunk of damage to you. Jellicent, you have special defensive jellicent wrekt, but physically defensive jellicent can just balk and will-o-wisp you.

So despite you having the type advantage, assuming that 90-95 base attack done here
>>14359233
You don't check or counter any of the prominent ghost and psychic types. You want me to do UU? Because it's the same damn story.
>>14360611
A super effective aerial ace does the same damage as a STAB Waterfall (which does MORE damage than aerial ace in rain). Aerial Ace is not a legitimate coverage move in any way shape or form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:56:36 No.14360675 Report

Quoted By: >>14360872

>>14360601
>lucky enough to get Sucker Punch/Pursuit.

thats not just lucky, there is a fair amount of prediction involved.

When up agaisnt a gegnar/alakazam, there are only 2 things that the opponent will do. And that is:

1- switch out, allowing a set up or a pursuit

2- attack with aura sphere/focus miss

As said before, this requires good predictability and youre right an element of luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:57:43 No.14360701 Report

Quoted By: >>14360730

>>14360652
>Let's look at the Psychic types in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 05:58:52 No.14360730 Report

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>>14360701
You compared him to Infernape, so I decided to put him in Infernape's tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:01:01 No.14360779 Report

Quoted By: >>14360930 >>14360953

>>14360652
you are talking about all of its downfalls. Every poke has them. No one said itd be OU anyways. I never said this thing would be able to take niggas on heads up, I said that it'd be a good late game/revenge

>A super effective aerial ace does the same damage as a STAB Waterfall (which does MORE damage than aerial ace in rain). Aerial Ace is not a legitimate coverage move in any way shape or form.

Did you factor in TEchnician?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:01:04 No.14360785 Report

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>>14360271
#REKT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:02:40 No.14360836 Report

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>>14360564
Fair enough, although I think more Speed and maybe a strong ability would be far more valuable than raw attacking power in the first place. Above all I don't really care what the mega does as long as it gives her a proper niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:03:44 No.14360872 Report

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>>14360675
Actually there's all sorts of shit Gengar will do to ruin your day. Most prominently Sub and/or Disable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:06:14 No.14360930 Report

Quoted By: >>14360981

>>14360779
Where are you getting technician from?

Technician would be nice on greninja, but nothing is confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:07:14 No.14360953 Report

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>>14360779
When a poke's downfalls is that it can't effectively take on all of the major threats of a type it's super effective against, that's pretty bad. With the calced stats here
>>14359233
It's pretty useless in OU. A shame really, because if it had used those extra 5 points in it's defense stats and put them into atk and sp atk, it might stand more of a chance.
>Did you factor in technician
Damn I always forget that. Still, that's assuming he even has that ability. If he does, then ok, but otherwise, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:08:16 No.14360981 Report

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>>14360930
>Where are you getting technician from?

Thats what this whole conversation stemmed from haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:11:08 No.14361035 Report

Quoted By: >>14361056 >>14361677

If Chesnaught gets mach punch then he could end up pretty good with that spread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:12:11 No.14361056 Report

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>>14361035
hell yea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:42:45 No.14361677 Report

Quoted By: >>14362891

>>14361035
>Implying anyone gets Mach Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 06:58:42 No.14361886 Report

Quoted By: >>14362966

Welp, I wanted to use Greninja in UU but that speed isn't going to protect him from The Tier of Fighting Types. It's not like he's going to get a priority flying or psychic move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 07:04:59 No.14361960 Report

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These have got to be wrong. Aegislash has a BST of over 600? Tyrantrum has a higher BST than the other fossil Pokemon?

Mr. Owl !!Li6wYvtg4hi

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Mr. Owl !!Li6wYvtg4hi Tue 08 Oct 2013 07:21:29 No.14362261 Report

Quoted By: >>14363073 >>14363201

Fennekin master race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 07:23:22 No.14362290 Report

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>>14358897
You can beat the main story with any random assortment of pokemon with any random assortment of EVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 07:28:21 No.14362348 Report

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>Greninja
80/80/70/100/65/125

>Picked Snivy in B/W
>Plan to pick Froakie in X/Y
>Haven't picked a multiplayer viable starter since Torchic

M-m-maybe I'll pick a half-decent starter next gen...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 07:29:25 No.14362362 Report

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>Delphox

That's my girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:14:52 No.14362891 Report

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>>14361677
>implying that isn't for a reason
>implying Fighting doesn't get some of the most consistent high BP moves of all types
>implying Fighting doesn't already have a Physical AND a Special Quick Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:16:50 No.14362910 Report

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>>14358004
>Sylveon 110/60/65/95/130/65
Didn't we already confirm that Slyveon was 95/60/65/110/130/65?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:20:00 No.14362935 Report

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>>14358004
>Mega Blaziken

How, the event shouldn't even be live yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:22:38 No.14362966 Report

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>>14361886
he gets extrasensory

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:30:48 No.14363056 Report

Quoted By: >>14363278

>>14360418
A normal Blaziken isn't even that broken. It's only broken with Speed Boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:31:49 No.14363073 Report

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>>14362261
imageforants.jpg

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Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:43:18 No.14363201 Report

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>>14362261
Honestly it kind of creeps me out that she evolves instantly from a quadrupedal fox to a sex object incredibly reminiscent of something リコセ would come up with.

I don't really mind though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:49:02 No.14363278 Report

Quoted By: >>14363299

>>14363056
>Blaze Blaziken
>Blaziken Mega Evolved!
>Mega Blaziken used Protect!
>Mega Blaziken's Speed Boost increased its' Speed!
>Mega Blaziken used Substitute!
>Mega Blaziken's Speed Boost increased its' Speed!
>Mega Blaziken used Protect!
>Mega Blaziken's Speed Boost increased its' Speed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2013 08:50:35 No.14363299 Report

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>>14363278
So ban that, then.

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